Inetbet Issue

[fcat]

Just FTR, Nicole also claimed that a group of Playtech casinos had "manipulated" their games as well. And that the slots ran strange. Almost an identical complaint as here.

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/this-group-of-casinos-are-cheating-players.18456/

I don't know what strangeness she is referring to, but if it's jerky reels and such, as others have complained about....maybe the problem lies within her computer. Although her complaint with the Playtech group seemed to be that the reels spun too fast, or sped up....something like that.

Who are you, the casinomeister police??? LOL

 

[SlotsWizard]

Just FTR, Nicole also claimed that a group of Playtech casinos had "manipulated" their games as well. And that the slots ran strange. Almost an identical complaint as here.

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/this-group-of-casinos-are-cheating-players.18456/

I don't know what strangeness she is referring to, but if it's jerky reels and such, as others have complained about....maybe the problem lies within her computer. Although her complaint with the Playtech group seemed to be that the reels spun too fast, or sped up....something like that.

I have lately been a member of the "RTG has really tight slots" group, yet I continue to play there so I don't have much of a right to complain.

For the record, I love iNetBet and will never play at any other RTG, but I still can't help but think that RTG changed something - unbeknownst to the casinos - sometime in the second half of last year.

If I were to guess, I would say that the way random jackpots are awarded was left alone. Before the change, the payout % was probably standard across all coin sizes, however, I think "the change" was that the payout % for 0.01, 0.02, 0.05 and 0.10 coin sizes was reduced, while the payout % for 0.25, 0.50, 1.00, 2.00 and 5.00 coin sizes was bumped up, so that the overall payout percentage remains roughly the same each month because the ratio of large bettors to small bettors is just right so that the casinos wouldn't notice.

But us low-rollers did notice - and are still noticing it. KK noticed it too; he experienced it around the same time I did last year. It was drastic enough of a change that both of us felt it warranted a warning on our web sites. Shortly around the time the UIGEA was passed, things just haven't felt right. But when I was playing larger bets, I never had a problem getting the features and big wins. These days that is simply not possible on smaller bets (except for those extremely rare 1:1,000,000 spins, which I don't get but others here have).

If RTG did make this change that I described above, I do understand the logic behind it. Land-based casinos operate the same way - penny, nickel, dime, quarter, 50-cent slots normally have a lower payout % than $1, $5, $10, $25 and $100 machines.

But it would be nice if someone from RTG (not someone from an RTG casino because they are probably just as in the dark as the rest of us) came clean about this. We aren't all idiots, whiners and/or sore losers.

Something that could help shed some light on the issue would be if some RTG casinos disclosed their payout percentages, per coin size, first with and then without random jackpots factored in. And then compare these figures to the corresponding payout percentages from January 2006 - June 2006.

I'll even make it easy for them - here's a little fixed-width font template they can use:

MONTH: July, 2007

________________________________________________
COIN SIZE ..... PAYOUT W/RJ ...... PAYOUT W/O RJ
0.01 .......... 87.0000% ......... 80.00000%
0.02 .......... 88.0000% ......... 82.00000%
0.05 .......... 89.0000% ......... 84.00000%
0.10 .......... 90.0000% ......... 85.00000%
0.25 .......... 98.0000% ......... 97.00000%
0.50 .......... 99.0000% ......... 98.00000%
1.00 ......... 100.0000% ......... 99.00000%
2.00 ......... 101.0000% ........ 100.00000%
5.00 ......... 106.0000% ........ 105.00000%

OVERALL ....... 94.9000% .......... 93.7000%

(hypothetical example)

 

[Nicole50]

Thanks for this explanations

Thanks for the post and this clarifications about RTG. I just want to say that my issue about Inetbet was my own experience with this casino and I am not professionel gambler to find out what is going on.

For the peoples who are thanking this casino, they have the right to do so but I did not know that Inetbet has advocates at this website.If you say that they pay fast your withdrawal of 280 USD , Iam wondering why you dont continue to play with this amount to get more winning if the games are fair. The amount you talk about and you withdraw can say enough why you left the games so quick with this withdrawal.

I Bring the issue here about Inetbet and in the same time I asked them to close my account.That`s mean that I want nothing from them and I want nothing for my complaint. Just let peoples know what is going on there and this place is the right place to bring such remarks. I was playing today at other RTG casino with just 40 cent bet , beleive I got big pay out at the games especially in the free spin. 105 USD when Free spin stoped which you can never get it at Inetbet.

Thanks again for the post and Good Luck for Inetbet Lovers

Nicole50

 

[fcat]

Thanks for the post and this clarifications about RTG. I just want to say that my issue about Inetbet was my own experience with this casino and I am not professionel gambler to find out what is going on.

For the peoples who are thanking this casino, they have the right to do so but I did not know that Inetbet has advocates at this website.If you say that they pay fast your withdrawal of 280 USD , Iam wondering why you dont continue to play with this amount to get more winning if the games are fair. The amount you talk about and you withdraw can say enough why you left the games so quick with this withdrawal.

I Bring the issue here about Inetbet and in the same time I asked them to close my account.That`s mean that I want nothing from them and I want nothing for my complaint. Just let peoples know what is going on there and this place is the right place to bring such remarks. I was playing today at other RTG casino with just 40 cent bet , beleive I got big pay out at the games especially in the free spin. 105 USD when Free spin stoped which you can never get it at Inetbet.

Thanks again for the post and Good Luck for Inetbet Lovers

Nicole50

It's called making a PROFIT!! deposit 200.00 make 80.00, not bad for a 1/2 of hour playing.

 

[kakata]

It's called making a PROFIT!! deposit 200.00 make 80.00, not bad for a 1/2 of hour playing.

So you deposit 200 to win 80...........lol
smart strategy........VERY SMART

 

[SlotsWizard]

Thanks for the post and this clarifications about RTG. I just want to say that my issue about Inetbet was my own experience with this casino and I am not professionel gambler to find out what is going on.

For the peoples who are thanking this casino, they have the right to do so but I did not know that Inetbet has advocates at this website.If you say that they pay fast your withdrawal of 280 USD , Iam wondering why you dont continue to play with this amount to get more winning if the games are fair. The amount you talk about and you withdraw can say enough why you left the games so quick with this withdrawal.

I Bring the issue here about Inetbet and in the same time I asked them to close my account.That`s mean that I want nothing from them and I want nothing for my complaint. Just let peoples know what is going on there and this place is the right place to bring such remarks. I was playing today at other RTG casino with just 40 cent bet , beleive I got big pay out at the games especially in the free spin. 105 USD when Free spin stoped which you can never get it at Inetbet.

Thanks again for the post and Good Luck for Inetbet Lovers

Nicole50

I understand what you are saying, but iNetBet is NOT the only RTG where it is difficult to win - they are all difficult to win at! And they have been since last September/October.

The $105 you got from a 40-cent spin: CHERISH THAT WIN because it's the biggest one you will see for a VERY long time, regardless of which RTG you play at.

Of all the RTG casinos, iNetBet offers the best video poker paytables and therefore, more than likely, slot payouts as well. If you dare play somewhere else then feel free, but consider yourself warned. The $105 win you got was one of those 1-in-a-million shots that just happened to occur at a casino other than iNetBet, but I assure you, you WILL run into WORSE "luck" than what you encountered at iNetBet.

Simply put: if you thought the slots at iNetBet sucked your money, just wait and see what's in store for you at the other RTG's.

 

[lojo]

I understand what you are saying, but iNetBet is NOT the only RTG where it is difficult to win - they are all difficult to win at! And they have been since last September/October.

The $105 you got from a 40-cent spin: CHERISH THAT WIN because it's the biggest one you will see for a VERY long time, regardless of which RTG you play at.

Of all the RTG casinos, iNetBet offers the best video poker paytables and therefore, more than likely, slot payouts as well. If you dare play somewhere else then feel free, but consider yourself warned. The $105 win you got was one of those 1-in-a-million shots that just happened to occur at a casino other than iNetBet, but I assure you, you WILL run into WORSE "luck" than what you encountered at iNetBet.

Simply put: if you thought the slots at iNetBet sucked your money, just wait and see what's in store for you at the other RTG's.

Do you really think it is as bad as all that? Really? Time to run some trials if so.

 

[Nicole50]

upadte of my thread concerning Inetbet issue

Hi to all


Since the closure of my account at Inetbet, I visited many others RTG but it is really worse then what I was expecting. In my issue concerning Inetbet maybe I did not know how to discribe the problems but I found out that at least Inetbet you have an answers to your emails and comments like the way they did with me. I will send an email to Inetbet to apologise for my quicker reaction over the games. It was my mistake because I did not read fully the others threads concerning Inetbet in this forum. That `s the way to be honest with them and with the forum staff here.

Thanks guys.
Nicole50

 

[lojo]

Hi to all


Since the closure of my account at Inetbet, I visited many others RTG but it is really worse then what I was expecting. In my issue concerning Inetbet maybe I did not know how to discribe the problems but I found out that at least Inetbet you have an answers to your emails and comments like the way they did with me. I will send an email to Inetbet to apologise for my quicker reaction over the games. It was my mistake because I did not read fully the others threads concerning Inetbet in this forum. That `s the way to be honest with them and with the forum staff here.

Thanks guys.
Nicole50

It is always good to try. There are many ways to resolve an issue. I hope you enjoy your bad luck if you exploited the goodwill of a good casino on a good site

 

[chuchu59]

Ever since the Fruit Frenzy fiaisco last year, I havent touched RTG slots (not with my own money anyway). May I kindly ask Inetbet to clarify what has been done about the Fruit Frenzy malfunction last year. Everybody that posted claim that only 5 free spins (minimum) were awarded for the feature. I cant remember the number I had but it might have reached a dozen or so. Others mentioned 30+.

 

[spike38]

No excuse

This casino is the absolute pits. In the last two months my wife and I have deposited here nine times and we spin .20 a spin always. Out of these sessions our bankroll has never increased not even once at any point of play.
Just now we have completed a session of over 400 spins without ONE bonus round ever appearing. We hit FIVE pays of over $1.00 with the largest being $4.00 out of these 400 + spins. LMAO !
It would be comical if this wasn't the third time in a week that this has happened.
I'm sorry to say but these RTG casinos have gone to the dogs.

 

[Kaynos72]

thanks; i didnt suggest, you were saying that they didnt pay. I only wanted to give a hint, why the regular payouts may seem redujced. Its because the jackpot wins are part of the payout ratio

My tought exactly. The money from the random jackpots has to come from somewhere. The casino aint giving money away for free. So how they do it ?

They claiming to have 95% payout, but that include the random jackpots ! If you put a feature like a random jackpot on a slot, what is the best way to fund it ? Reduce the slots payout percentage and put the extra in the jackpot pool.

A regular slot with no jackpot like those of MG casinos have on average a 95% payout rate. RTG claim to have the same payout but with the RJ.

So it's no secret MG slots pay more, RTG have to pay less to fund their random jackpots, that's why peoples are complaining about them. Remove the RJ feature from RTG slots and the payout should be very similar to MG slots.

So when you play on a RTG casino you accept to have a reduced payout for a chance to win a jackpot.

 

[babs7262]

my rtg 2 cents

I love my RTG BUT...I have closed out 2 accounts in the last 3 weeks. I closed out Club World (of whom I loved and stuck by for the longest time) and INetbet

Im sorry, but something is not right with these 2 places as of late. The only one I have left is LasVegasUSA and you know how they did last Friday when I posted every spin.

Now of course I dont expect my $20 to last 24 hours every time LOL, but as Nicole said. If your playing over and over for a week straight and not getting anything? I think a $20 with only .20 spins should be able to last more than a half hour. I dont care if your MG/RTG or playtech. No, dont expect a big payout, but do expect some entertainment for a couple of hours (with breaks here and there)

 

[debbiek]

I closed account there too

On August 6, 2007, I sent an email to their manager to close my account. There are constant losing spins in their video slots (I play mostly Aztecs Treasure and Sunken treasure). I deposited $500 and the money must've been gone in about 10 minutes.

I also noticed that if you're lucky enough to get ahead, the losing spins come back immediately and they are non-stop. It's just ridiculous and the manager sent me an email as if she couldn't believe what I was saying.

Just because they pay doesn't mean they are running a fair game. That's my opinion.

 

[winbig]

Closing mine there as well....


As if they're going to have any US players left after EcoCard closes its doors to us. They're so stingy about giving out Quicktender invites it isn't even funny!

 

[chuchu59]

My advice to Inetbet would be to switch to Playtech. We already have many good MG casinos and Intercasino will remain as top dog at crypto so a switch to Playtech fits the billing as their games seem to be fairer and most of the current operators are plain crap especially with their 4- day withdrawal period.

 

[reda]

i dont spend big money there as of lately and they emailed me all the info for a quicktender account. i opened it up and have not even used it yet. they said it works like a eco account

 

[vinylweatherman]

It is possible to work out the total amount wagered on any RTG slot by logging the RJ. Every $1 wagered contributes 1c to the RJ.
Given that Inetbet publishes monthly payouts on request, it would be possible to estimate how the big RJ wins are factored into the overall figures. A simple start would be to log each RJ both at the start and end of each month (the end of one month being the start of the next). Note how many RJ hits are made (and the amounts), and then calculate the total wagered. It should then be possible to estimate the average payout from the base games.
It should be the case that the RJ contributes 1% of overall payout, since this is the rate of contribution. This would make the base game payout 94% where 95% is quoted as the expectation. Although 1% looks small, the variance for the 95% figure is far larger due to the RJ, and the games probably behave more like a true progressive than merely a high variance slot.

Playtech slots are far better for low rollers, as they tend to pay little and often, rather than occasionally in larger amounts. The drawback with Playtech is the general poor quality of operators compared to Microgaming and Cryptologic.

 

[SlotsWizard]

The drawback with Playtech is the general poor quality of operators compared to Microgaming and Cryptologic.

That, and the fact that they no longer accept US players.

 

[breakstone]

Rtg casinos in general

Ok I have read all the replys to Nicoles original complaint against Inet.
I too have emailed the manager in the past regarding the machines at this casino. Their reply was very good, they do have good customer service and their payouts are pretty fast. Compared to other Rtg casinos their machines dont pay as often as they should, not consisant. Take Cleos gold, I deposited over $2000 and not received the free spins once, very annoying, but after a few deposits, I thinkI cashed out $4000. It takes time to win, but you will eventually win if you have the money and the patience to hold on.
My favourite Rtg is casino extreme. They pay more often. I won $10000.00 on Rain dance a few weeks ago. Instant cashout of $2500 a day. Not bad.
I know a lot of you say to avoid Casino extreme, but I have never had a problem. I cash out instantly everytime I win. Been playing there for a couple of years. Been a big tight lately, but hey thats gambling

 

[chuchu59]

Ok I have read all the replys to Nicoles original complaint against Inet.
I too have emailed the manager in the past regarding the machines at this casino. Their reply was very good, they do have good customer service and their payouts are pretty fast. Compared to other Rtg casinos their machines dont pay as often as they should, not consisant. Take Cleos gold, I deposited over $2000 and not received the free spins once, very annoying, but after a few deposits, I thinkI cashed out $4000. It takes time to win, but you will eventually win if you have the money and the patience to hold on.
My favourite Rtg is casino extreme. They pay more often. I won $10000.00 on Rain dance a few weeks ago. Instant cashout of $2500 a day. Not bad.
I know a lot of you say to avoid Casino extreme, but I have never had a problem. I cash out instantly everytime I win. Been playing there for a couple of years. Been a big tight lately, but hey thats gambling

Patience is one thing. Having a huge bankroll is another. As in your case, you needed several deposits to get what is equivalent to 2x your total deposits. However, after several losing sessions, who would want to deposit just to chase losses. You risk a further downside and even if you have an upswing, they may not necessarily be as lucky as you in covering all losses. The stories of other posters indicate they have endured long and many losing sessions. Patience may have been stretched very thin then.

 

[Nicole50]

Casinoextreme

Hi To all

Just I want to thank you for the post about casinoextreme. I played at casino extreme and win some today . The money was sent to my moneybookers within minutes. I went just to the Chat support and in minute they said that the amount was sent to me and really I received it instantly.

Just to inform you guys.

Nicole50

 

[ergopro]

Mikepipe, I have always played my favourite Achilles slot but now I am sure that there is some thing wrong going on there.That`s my own appreciation and the casino can not convince me by saying that they pay jackpots. They have to keep the RTG software the way his was created.That`s all .

Nicole50

I'll give my opposite view...I ran a 30$ deposit to over 200$ within minutes playing Achilles a while ago. I've been there frustrated as hell and thinking it's rigged and something's wrong cause I've lost few deposits in a row without hitting a dime or having dealer pull few Blackjacks in a row. It's not Inetbet- it's RTG in general which is very streaky. That's why I don't play those games anymore...the swings are huge.
And about me and Inetbet- no, I don't even have account with them anymore but still consider them being one of the very best there is... You can toss a coin with a friend daily and lose a week in a row...then win even a longer period. Is it likely to happen? No, but sometimes it does. Just my 2cents.

 

[bpb]

Hi To all

Just I want to thank you for the post about casinoextreme. I played at casino extreme and win some today . The money was sent to my moneybookers within minutes. I went just to the Chat support and in minute they said that the amount was sent to me and really I received it instantly.

Just to inform you guys.

Nicole50

I hope you aren't suggesting that one should play at Casino Extreme instead of iNetBet due to your individual results. That would be grossly irresponsible.

From your posts, I've concluded that the best thing for you to do is not gamble anymore. You'll be happier for it, and you'll have more money. Leave gambling for people who get entertainment value and who understand the cost. You clearly don't.

 

[Nicole50]

Hi.

I am not suggesting any casino to anyone . My post was just to confirm the previous post about casino extreme. I think you are completly wrong about what you are saying because at you can read my last post about Inetbet, you can see that I have reopened my acount there and Iam playing there also. My post was just to confirm that the instant payout in this casino is working fine and that's all and as I am new online gamber, Iam not in the position to suggest casinos to others. I hope you will understand what I want to say.
Thanks.
Nicole50