I think this is only the beginning...

[august2153]

I am in the usa and i have a few microgaming accounts where i deposit regularly.

Here is what i received from platinum play today...

anybody else from the usa with mg account get anything like this?


Dear Carolyn,

As you may be aware, certain unfortunate circumstances have recently affected the ability of parties to process online gaming transactions in certain regions.

This means that we will no longer be able to accept deposits from you.

Even though our ability to accept and transfer funds has been severely impaired, we will endeavor to honor all withdrawal requests as soon as possible.

Your account will remain open for the time being should you wish to play through any remaining balances.

Best regards,
The Platinum Play Team


(sorry...did not see the other post about same subject...maybe it can be merged or deleted
thanks)

 

[rockycatt]

i got it also next they will come for your first born child

ps did i say that G W Bush is at fault with his cronies

 

[Brooklyn]

This really sucks, and I think online casinos are in a panic. Once the dust settles we will see what's in store for us USA players. I can't deposit anymore..anywhere..and it's really starting to piss me off.

 

[ksech]

Hmmm, very interesting. I had asked in two other threads if anyone saw the poker domain seizures as a threat to US players in online casinos and most were under the impression it would have no effect. Doesn't seem to be that way now....

 

[reda]

well i wasnt much worried until now. one day at a time i guess, who knows maybe tomorrow ill try to log in my casino accounts and i could be locked out.

 

[cash4all]

well i wasnt much worried until now. one day at a time i guess, who knows maybe tomorrow ill try to log in my casino accounts and i could be locked out.

It also makes you wonder if the government is going to start to look at US Bank accounts too to see where transactions are coming from.....this is really starting to look like "Big Brother" telling us what we can and cannot do with our own money! I am not happy about this at all!

 

[rockycatt]

but if your in the loop like congressman tierny's wife about 90 days ago

Patrice Eremian Chew Tierney, aka Mrs. John Tierney. Gets indicted for laundering millions in ill-gotten gains for her brother, a fugitive gangster, and when she gets caught, she tells the judge she’s depressed and gets fined $2,500. . . .
And what does John Tierney say on behalf of his felon wife?
“Today’s not about me

 

[jetset]

I find it astonishing that the feds pursue the online gambling issue with such fervour and energy, clearly devoting millions of dollars, manpower resources and time, when there are so many real criminal activities that they could be hunting down and eliminating.

Here we have a non-violent pastime that is clearly in strong demand by millions of Americans, carried out generally in the privacy of their homes and before their own computers, funded with their own discretionary income and as a matter of personal choice.

There are no clear and specific statutes against it, yet the DoJ can wield its opinion that internet gambling is illegal to destroy companies, reputations, fortunes and personal freedoms.

The mind just boggles.

 

[maxd]

There are no clear and specific statutes against it, yet the DoJ can wield its opinion that internet gambling is illegal to destroy companies, reputations, fortunes and personal freedoms.

I think the reasons behind this are only truly revealed if we "follow the money". IMO this whole thing makes a lot more sense if you look at it as (continued) protectionism -- keeping American dollars out of the hands of foreigners -- and a fairly successful racket the Feds have found for diverting other people's money into their own coffers (re the huge settlements we've seen in the past). Doubtless there are some American private interests who stand to profit from the whole dirty business as well. US money brokers love "free trade" as long as it means they are free to get rich from the trade of others but the idea of American $$$ bleeding off to parts unknown is not a part of the picture they're willing to accept. As ever, it's all about the Benjamins.

 

[Rhyzz]

I don't quite understand the logic behind these recent closures on the US market. These operators have been taking US bets for a good number of years now since UIGEA, do they really think that stopping now will mean they will go undetected and unpunished should the FBI and DoJ decide to chase the 'smaller' people? I think they're living in a dream land if they do, because I'm quite sure the US will have been keeping tabs on everyone for some time.

 

[Tengil]

Worth to note is that online gambling only produces costs to US economy. So they have their right to defend themself against a harmful activity if you look at it from that point. So they would have economical arguments. Gambling is always a losing business for a "normal" country, whatever it being on- or offline.
Gambling will of course always exist so the only way seems to be strong regulation like they have in France.

Also the majority of US citizens are against online gambling.

 

[3mptyseat]

Eric Holder and Barry Osama are the key differences

And it took them awhile to get their ducks in a row... But I have recently had a bank account seized and I have no doubt in my mind, that this has less to do with justice and more to do with bankroll. The more the D of J confiscates, declares ill-gotten, and stacks in their coffers, the larger their bankroll gets.

And though it makes no sense in the wake of unprecedented federal debt, it makes plenty of sense as these two egotists attempt to make another run for 4 years... Hope and change indeed. I 'hope' I am allowed to "change' my citizenship if these draconian rulers are allowed to continue unchecked thru 2016...

My grand total of funds in limbo since EWX went under to Mr. Holder and his band of deputized (anti)Justice-leaguers is now over $11k with this bank account being reviewed for "possible violations of patriot act provisions..." and another $700 locked up at pstars...

I love this country. But I fucking hate this government...

 

[rkj87]

Can anyone tell me why Stars, Absolute, Fulltilt etc. were still relying on their .com domains!? I mean, they should've known it would be easy for the FBI to close em down if they run their domains at Godaddy.com

Check Calvin Ayre for more

 

[lots0]

There are casinos that are still taking deposits and withdrawals are being processed, as usual.

We saw the same kind of knee jerk reactions from some casinos and poker rooms after the UGIEA was passed... and then again when it went into effect...


On a different subject:
Anyone want a laugh? I just had a little psyco monkey tell me, that RIVAL and it's white labels pulled out of the US market now... in hopes that they will be allowed into the US market, after the smoke clears and there is regulation....

 

[gloria460]

I'm wonderin after the republicans snuck the UIGEA into a bill at the very last minute without the dems being aware is what was in it for them and why are they so against internet gambling.

Obviously they don't want it here and they don't want us playing over in someone's elses backyard...

 

[jetset]

For my money most governments are getting far too deeply involved in the private affairs of their citizens - it's happening everywhere under the guise of fighting terrorism, closing tax havens down, plain moralistic interference or the latest - austerity measures.

Everywhere you look nowadays governments are over spending or throwing money around for mainly political reasons, necessitating ever deeper invasions of the tax payers' pockets and declining respect for the privacy and right of choice of individuals.

The imbalance of this assault on online gambling is imo just another example of an international trend towards an increasingly autocratic approach by the people who are supposedly elected to serve the electorate.

I think it's because online gambling is an easier target than porn, phishing, internet fraud, organised crime or the myriad other more reprehensible forms of behaviour, which do not seem to be addressed with anything like the fervour that has characterised the dubious enforcement and law-making surrounding internet gambling.

It just seems that official intrusion into everyday life is becoming more onerous and pervasive every year.

Quite a good op-ed article by the PPA chairman in the Washington Post this weekend, btw.

 

[lots0]

I'm wondering after the republicans snuck the UIGEA into a bill at the very last minute without the dems being aware is what was in it for them and why are they so against internet gambling.

Obviously they don't want it here and they don't want us playing over in someone's elses backyard...

I suggest you watch a Movie named "Casino Jack"

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At the last minute before Congress adjourned for the 2006 elections in what politicos call a “midnight drop” Majority Leader Bill Frist inserted the otherwise unpassable "Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act" (UIGEA) clauses into the bigger unrelated Security and Accountability for Every Port (SAFE) Act. The SAFE Act itself was a late “must pass” bill, designed to safeguard ports from terrorist infiltration. [29] This act clearly opposed majority public opinion. In the Zogby International Poll 87% believe online gambling is a personal choice which should not be banned. The Wall Street Journal Poll showed 85% oppose government prohibition of online gambling.[30] The UIGEA became the basis for the massively unpopular government crackdown and domain name seizure of the worlds top three online poker sites dubbed "black Friday" on April 15, 2011.[31]

The corruption this movie reveals in our government is staggering.

The U.S. Senators that were involved with passing the UGIEA are as crooked as they come, the Mafia could learn from them...

Frist, who was the Republican Senate majority Leader and his Crooked Senator buddies were taking money from the Land Based Native Casinos to keep online gambling illegal and at the same time taking money from online gambling, who wanted legalization... You can easly figure out who paid more...

 

[slotplayer]

I'm wonderin after the republicans snuck the UIGEA into a bill at the very last minute without the dems being aware is what was in it for them and why are they so against internet gambling.

Obviously they don't want it here and they don't want us playing over in someone's elses backyard...

Well Fox said when reporting the poker seizures the industry was worth $24 billion.
I do remember a site saying it was worth $12 billion some years ago with $6 billion coming from the US. Not sure how accurate that info was.

However, I would imagine some of the reasons they're against it are protectionism, morals and economic. Every $1 deposited in an offshore casino is not a $1 that is available to help stimulate the US economy.

 

[nisosbar]

Every $1 deposited in an offshore casino is not a $1 that is available to help stimulate the US economy.

That's a silly claim, IMO, but it's not the first time I've seen it here.

The amounts you are talking about, per player, are likely very small, both in absolute terms and relative terms when comparing the sums to sums lost to business lending with regard to Americans who maintain accounts overseas, in offshore tax havens, or even amounts invested directly in offshore businesses. Last I knew, none of those practices are explicitly illegal, even though it results in revenue losses to the US government, and state and local governments. (Note I am not talking about tax evasion, which has always been highly illegal.) In fact, I've seen data that offshore banking costs governments $ Trillions. Yet, it's a practice that is more popular than ever.

Further, consider the arguments which have been employed in selling tax cuts - 'when you let people keep and spend their own money, the economy magically improves and generates new jobs for everyone.' Yes, voodoo economics is what it is, but many of our elected officials seem to operate along that line of reasoning. Yet, when it comes to online gambling, this principle does not apply, mysteriously.

 

[takethemoney]

Sadly this is probably going to prop up the rogues who still can / will accept deposits. Expect more complaints.

 

[Diane]

Pokerstars processing withdrawals............

I logged on tonight and a banner popped up that they are now allowed to payout the American accounts. It looks like my $13.00 is "safe' and on its way to my bank account.

Time will tell......

Diane

 

[footdr]

Microgaming closing ALL U.S. Accounts

Per several emails I have recieved. Microgaming has decided to close all U.S. Player accounts. Already can't login to any of my accounts.

This includes all casinos that "end in" US; the new casinos that that they set up just for U.S. Players.

Guess you have to email support if you had any money in your account(s).

I believe we will soon be banned everywhere, because, the Processors for these casino groups were often the same. Regardless which software platform.

Probably many used the same as some of the Poker Sites that were hit by DOJ.