Da_Gambla
Dormant account
- Joined
- Mar 23, 2007
- Location
- Los Angeles
Well, it appears our good mate Sentinel was not well received over at VLS. After being confronted with many of the same questions he is here, he became obnoxiously rude, and began the typical telling people that they had to prove to him it didn't work. They said they did. He said no, you have to use this on a live wheel. They laughed. They told him (and a shill he had working with him on the forums) that they could log into some live wheel service where everyone could watch, AND they could wager 'play' money. This was so they could all watch him win, AND, see exactly what he was doing (since what you're actually supposed to do, and when, is intentionally vague).
He went into the usual rant of he doesn't have to prove anything; he's been living off of it for 10-11 years, he's happy to post his results, etc etc, and starting calling people names again. Most of these people really let him convince them this was worth testing, and he turned on them quite viciously once they started reporting that it was showing the usual weaknesses.
It appears they banned him.. all his actual posts are gone, but there's enough quotes inside other posts to follow it all quite easily.
This case is closed. This is no holy grail. From what they nailed down from him on exactly what triggers what, and how to wager it, it can, and does indeed have heavy losses associated with it. It's nothing that impressed them, and they test an awful lot of systems over there.
Overall, for systems in this category, this one is FAR too complicated to end up accepting such dismal results. As well, the conditions that trigger the wagering cycle is so rare, one user reported no such pattern in over 700 spins of a real wheel. You can literally grow old waiting for an opportunity, and one that may end up losing a ton. It's too time consuming either way, and as I posted earlier, you'd be better off just getting a job.
As posted over there, this pretty much sums up the path Sentinel seems to have taken with developing this strategy:
For those that don't have a keen understanding of wagering progressions, #7 may not sink in... What it means is, once you have any losing session that takes you below a certain point, you are forever trying to get back up (slot players experience this phenomenon too). It's at that point that these failed 'system' authors start running around trying to get ANYONE else to try their system. It has some psychological soothing to it, somehow, knowing that even though it doesn't work well enough to be celebrated, at least it lives on in the false hopes of others he infects with all of his posted 'wins'.
It's nothing short of passing around a Trojan virus.
For the benefit of those not familiar with this game and how the various 'systems' are developed, here's where they fail. Once you convince yourself you 'see' a pattern, you start to obsess on how to take advantage of it. You develop a wagering progression, entry points, exit points, it can start getting complicated. As you are focusing on all of this, the LAWS OF PROBABILITY begin to show that the pattern itself is not stable, so you go back and start trying to develop various things to deal with the instability. This is, of course, completely fruitless, as you are obviously chasing a MOVING TARGET now. The 'system' author finally settles on whatever seems to be best at the time. He's tired. It works somewhat. It's become quite unwieldy, and he really doesn't know what to do to it next. He wants to put it to work. It's really not doing what he'd hoped (of course not..). He then starts telling everyone about it (as explained above), and just wants to be known as 'a nice guy, giving you something for free'.
Well, back to whatever we were doing before this chap started this uselss thread...
- Keith
- Keith
He went into the usual rant of he doesn't have to prove anything; he's been living off of it for 10-11 years, he's happy to post his results, etc etc, and starting calling people names again. Most of these people really let him convince them this was worth testing, and he turned on them quite viciously once they started reporting that it was showing the usual weaknesses.
It appears they banned him.. all his actual posts are gone, but there's enough quotes inside other posts to follow it all quite easily.
This case is closed. This is no holy grail. From what they nailed down from him on exactly what triggers what, and how to wager it, it can, and does indeed have heavy losses associated with it. It's nothing that impressed them, and they test an awful lot of systems over there.
Overall, for systems in this category, this one is FAR too complicated to end up accepting such dismal results. As well, the conditions that trigger the wagering cycle is so rare, one user reported no such pattern in over 700 spins of a real wheel. You can literally grow old waiting for an opportunity, and one that may end up losing a ton. It's too time consuming either way, and as I posted earlier, you'd be better off just getting a job.
As posted over there, this pretty much sums up the path Sentinel seems to have taken with developing this strategy:
For those that don't have a keen understanding of wagering progressions, #7 may not sink in... What it means is, once you have any losing session that takes you below a certain point, you are forever trying to get back up (slot players experience this phenomenon too). It's at that point that these failed 'system' authors start running around trying to get ANYONE else to try their system. It has some psychological soothing to it, somehow, knowing that even though it doesn't work well enough to be celebrated, at least it lives on in the false hopes of others he infects with all of his posted 'wins'.
It's nothing short of passing around a Trojan virus.
For the benefit of those not familiar with this game and how the various 'systems' are developed, here's where they fail. Once you convince yourself you 'see' a pattern, you start to obsess on how to take advantage of it. You develop a wagering progression, entry points, exit points, it can start getting complicated. As you are focusing on all of this, the LAWS OF PROBABILITY begin to show that the pattern itself is not stable, so you go back and start trying to develop various things to deal with the instability. This is, of course, completely fruitless, as you are obviously chasing a MOVING TARGET now. The 'system' author finally settles on whatever seems to be best at the time. He's tired. It works somewhat. It's become quite unwieldy, and he really doesn't know what to do to it next. He wants to put it to work. It's really not doing what he'd hoped (of course not..). He then starts telling everyone about it (as explained above), and just wants to be known as 'a nice guy, giving you something for free'.
Well, back to whatever we were doing before this chap started this uselss thread...
- Keith
- Keith
And I a happy moron coz when use by date is up my profit exceeded my loss. 
And of course, sometimes it's the other way around, the zone stays in the game and others have to sit on the bench.
