How to know which casinos are part of a group?

[GaryWatson]

Since we have went offtrack and the post has been answered I thought Id butt in.

Just looking at AKA's link

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Now that is about beating bonuses. All fine and well but by doing that some players are considered bonus abusers.

The players may follow the terms to the letter but in by doing so they are leaving them open to being labeled bonus abusers because they are joining the site for the sole purpose of taking advantage of what is advertized.


The playthrough is to prevent bonus abuse. If the site does not make the correct calculations, tough titty. If they are promoting a spectacular bonus they damn well better honor it because they are making money off players who are not as astute to take advantage of the deals.

I have no specific point but reading a lot of the regular complaints, a deal is a deal.

 

[aka23]

I don't consider someone who claims a bonus, "follows the terms to the letter", uses optimal strategy, and wins to be a "bonus abuser." I'd call him an "advantage player." In my opinion, a "bonus abuser" need to do something to violate the T&C, such as have multiple accounts. Violating terms and true "bonus abuse" is in no way encouraged on the site. Discussion about such topics are prohibited on the forums.

 

[GaryWatson]

I am not aware of any incidents, in which a player has been flagged as a "bonus abuser" because of signing up through the site. Also note that many persons that a casino would consider to be "quality players" sign up through the site , as well as advantage players. The former may come across links on Wizard of Odds, Casinomeister, a search engine, etc.

No, you misunderstood. Its nothing against your site content, which is about taking advantage of bonuses. Its directed towards sites who have a playthrough rule but dont stand by them and refuse to pay players, labeling them bonus abusers for going specifically for their bonus and cashing out. There are many instances

 

[aka23]

No, you misunderstood. Its nothing against your site content, which is about taking advantage of bonuses. Its directed towards sites who have a playthrough rule but dont stand by them and refuse to pay players, labeling them bonus abusers for going specifically for their bonus and cashing out. There are many instances

Yes, I did misunderstand at first. I apologize. I edited my initial post prior to your reply.

 

[GaryWatson]

Yes, I did misunderstand at first. I apologize. I edited my initial post prior to your reply.

haha, I get where you are coming from now. You thought I meant your site. you had me I was referring to the actual casinos on your site

 

[KasinoKing]

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I think Simmo summed it up perfectly.
I admit I have thought once or twice about putting 'rogues' on my site with clear warning such as "if you're really daft enough to want to play at this place I'm happy to take the commission". But then I'm thinking it's not morally right to profit from players getting ripped-off - even if forewarned. And then there's the likely hassles with getting affy payments too, because I can't imagine these rogue places like parting with money to anyone!
At the end of the day there are 100's of reputable places to promote, and I don't personally need the potential grief of getting involved with cowboys.
My 2c.

 

[GaryWatson]

At the end of the day there are 100's of reputable places to promote, and I don't personally need the potential grief of getting involved with cowboys.
My 2c.

You are from the UK. Its a struggle to find sites for US players. We are generally fine (nearly)

 

[chuchu59]

This is a very good question, and is why on my site I always try to state which group each casino belongs to, so that players know where they stand.
In this particular case, their group consists of:-
Golden Riviera
River Nile
Miami Paradise
Slots Royal
Casino France-Net
and Golden Riviera Poker.

Welcome to the forum, and good luck!

That's great of you KK but this also reflects badly on the groups. If they dont want players to take bonuses from the same group, they should clearly list out the related casinos within the next sentence/paragraph in their TCs on their website. It shouldnt be too hard to figure out that players may not have a clue on that.

 

[Casinomeister]

...Adding the affiliate link into the equation...well...interesting. On the one hand you could argue as Lojo does that it makes you an accomplice, on the other you could argue that if the affiliate sends a player over with an affiliate tag, the rogue makes a good deal less than if the player had gone direct

Ha ha. Reminds me of when I met the operator of Black Widow, and he told me I should put an affiliate link in the rogue section for his casino group. He said I'd be making bucket loads of money because of all the morons clicking though the rouge listing and joining up.

(original article here)
https://www.casinomeister.com/static/newsletter/2003/24june2003.html

So upon my return, I redirected all his URLs to point at Men who Look like Kenny Rogers

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But back to the OP's question - sometimes it's tough on establishing who is who in cyberland. Many casinos are upfront with this and will list their other casinos. Best way to check is to click the "Affiliates Click Here" link and check out their affiliate program. In most cases, the affiliate program is being run by the casino and the other properties will be listed as well.

With the casinos who choose not to disclose this information, then some sleuthing is involved. You may need to do some searches in whois - reverse IP searches are good - check out Casino City (they list casino groups and companies as well). And Google is your friend.

Google the copyright info at the bottom. Google any specific info on their pages (toll-free numbers, company names, etc.). From there, the casino's brethren will begin to appear.

Or you can just come here and ask

 

[winbig]

Google the copyright info at the bottom. Google any specific info on their pages (toll-free numbers, company names, etc.). From there, the casino's brethren will begin to appear.

Or you can just come here and ask

But keep in mind that some casinos that aren't related share support phone numbers...

 

[Casinomeister]

But keep in mind that some casinos that aren't related share support phone numbers...

True, but it serves as an indicator as to whom they're connected with.

The same thing for being on the same server. Many Furturebet sites are on the same server, but it doesn't mean they are owned by the same company. A number of things have to be taken into account. That's where one has to do some checking around