AdamBetsMax
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so what if this game had no cap?
That's a bit to logical for round hereso what if this game had no cap?
It would go on forever and the server would eventually crash.so what if this game had no cap?
Gates actually uses a separate reel set for each possible symbol choice with, of course, vastly reduced numbers of that symbol present.Pity this wasn’t a gates of hell feature as one of those symbols that you were given would have just fucked off from the reel set.
And this nonsense wouldn’t have happened.
The fake streamer doesn't get paid anyway hence why they say its not a bug and a valid win.Not sure why this has annoyed people so much.
Anyone that gets this unlikely round will get paid, as they’ve confirmed it’s not a bug.
It’s a coding error, certainly; the sequence should’ve been made impossible to trigger, but it’s a legitimate result.
If anything, it just proves the games are random. Had this result come up in testing, I’m fairly certain it would’ve been coded out.
Depends if there was less than 50 million spins in the testing stageCan anyone estimate the odds of this sequence, are we talking 1 in 50 million, less or more?
Hi all,
So I have now personally spent some good amount of time with the game developers to understand what happened exactly and how this spectacular win is possible. So the critical thing to understand is that the Random Number Generator (RNG) generates the position of the reels with respect to each other once for each spin. This includes the visible part of the reels for which the slot pays, but also the non-visible part for which the slot doesn’t pay. When a tumble happens some of the non-visible part of the reels falls into the screen and pays if there is a win, and so on. It’s not the case that the RNG generates new reel positions for each tumble. So for the particular game round we are discussing, the reels positioning was generated in a way that reels 2 to 6 were perfectly aligned, resulting in a tumble that keeps going forever. The chance of this happening is of course very rare, but it does happen. I have included a simplified example in a picture to make it more clear. The yellow and red part is what you see as a player, the red part keeps tumbling.
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Hope this clarifies.
They would have got paid if it had spun infinitely and won £infinite? Get that it would have crashed but at what point..without doubt they would have called malfunction. Would have been an interesting court case after they ruled against Betfred for A Green.Not sure why this has annoyed people so much.
Anyone that gets this unlikely round will get paid, as they’ve confirmed it’s not a bug.
It’s a coding error, certainly; the sequence should’ve been made impossible to trigger, but it’s a legitimate result.
If anything, it just proves the games are random. Had this result come up in testing, I’m fairly certain it would’ve been coded out.
Assuming the whole result is generated up front, the player would never have seen a result. It would have crashed the server during result generation and the front end would time out. Standard procedure is then normally to cancel the bet and refund the player, as a result can never be determined.Depends if there was less than 50 million spins in the testing stage
They would have got paid if it had spun infinitely and won £infinite? Get that it would have crashed but at what point..without doubt they would have called malfunction. Would have been an interesting court case after they ruled against Betfred for A Green.
Well, if the casino had no intention of paying, I doubt they would’ve raised the query to Pragmatic.The fake streamer doesn't get paid anyway hence why they say its not a bug and a valid win.
Whats the bet if any normal player got that win the casino would use the malfunction voids win call. I can also guarantee they will have fixed this bug in next patch of the game so a normal player will never receive it.
Depends if there was less than 50 million spins in the testing stage
They would have got paid if it had spun infinitely and won £infinite? Get that it would have crashed but at what point..without doubt they would have called malfunction. Would have been an interesting court case after they ruled against Betfred for A Green.
Not exactly the same that pragmatic explained us here...Someone i know that left pragmatic very recently has said that that win should not be in the game... so either it's a miss, or a glitch / bug
And to think a streamer/affiliate was the lucky soul to trigger it. What are the odds on that. What are the odds that a code was written for the streamer to max out the game, but the code glitched? That wouldn't be possible as there's no proof so the odds on that would be much higher?Hi all,
After reading all your comments/questions I would like to clarify further.
1. In certain scenarios in Fruit Party the reels are copies of one another. That doesn’t mean however the same is true for the entire game. Every game has different reels and implementations for different scenarios, that’s part of what can make a slot so great.
2. Pragmatic Play was aware of the possibility of indefinite tumble. This scenario was however not resolved because it would be “handled” by the upper win cap.
Br,
Daniel
I don't buy this...Hi all,
So I have now personally spent some good amount of time with the game developers to understand what happened exactly and how this spectacular win is possible. So the critical thing to understand is that the Random Number Generator (RNG) generates the position of the reels with respect to each other once for each spin. This includes the visible part of the reels for which the slot pays, but also the non-visible part for which the slot doesn’t pay. When a tumble happens some of the non-visible part of the reels falls into the screen and pays if there is a win, and so on. It’s not the case that the RNG generates new reel positions for each tumble. So for the particular game round we are discussing, the reels positioning was generated in a way that reels 2 to 6 were perfectly aligned, resulting in a tumble that keeps going forever. The chance of this happening is of course very rare, but it does happen. I have included a simplified example in a picture to make it more clear. The yellow and red part is what you see as a player, the red part keeps tumbling.
View attachment 155526
Hope this clarifies.
Br,
Daniel
What about this.I don't buy this...
Firstly, i would be absolutely amazed if every reel was identical in this game.
Secondly, he got this from doing a feature buy - so in that case, surely the reels are spinning to "specific" positions in order to guarantee a feature, no?
Thirdly, if all reel bands landed in the same place (as you say) according to the RNG, then they AREN'T the same, because reel 3 has a feature symbol on the bottom row - so this is a lie UNLESS the feature symbols are added at random to the reels, in which case your assertion that the reels are all the same and randomly determined definitely doesn't add up.