How in the world do anyone ever win at

[Atlanta]

RTG casinos? They have to be the worst software on the market. I mean their slots payout sux compared to MG. Their BJ is questionable. Their Hold'em Poker is streaky. Their Craps payout sux and questionable rng. The next time I see a RTG casino Im gonna run from IT!

 

[katodog]

RTG casinos? They have to be the worst software on the market. I mean their slots payout sux compared to MG. Their BJ is questionable. Their Hold'em Poker is streaky. Their Craps payout sux and questionable rng. The next time I see a RTG casino Im gonna run from IT!

I was thinking that very same thing especially with the slots. They have potential to be good but there is no way in hell I can ever win a decent amount to cashout on unless I play $5 or more a spin or I hit a random jp.
I play .40 per spin and once in a while I might hit for 25 or 30 bucks but its not enough for me to cashout. Also, getting a bonus feature is like pulling teeth.Like I said..the slots have potential to be fun but they fall short in many areas.

 

[Kaynos72]

I'm not sure but i seems to see the opposite. When you check the slots payout of a RTG slot vs a MG slot, you can clearly see that RTG pays a hell of a lot much. I'll give you an example : Harveys vs Achilles.

Harveys - Achilles :

9 : None - 5/25/200
10 : 5/20/80 - 5/25/200
J : 8/25/100 - 5/30/250
Q : 10/30/100 - 5/30/250
K : 15/40/120 - 10/50/400
A : 20/50/150 - 10/50/400
Spec 1 : 20/60/200 - 2/30/200/800
Spec 2 : 25/75/200 - 3/100/500/1250
Spec 3 : 2/30/80/500 - 5/100/1000/5000
Spec 4 : 4/400/100/800 - None
Wild : 10/50/500/2000 - 2/25/500/2500/10000
Scatter : 2/5/20/100 - 3/30/500

Just look at the Wild section. On Harveys if you get 5 wild you get paid 2000x times your line bet, on Achilles you get paid 10000 times !

First special after the As, on Harvey's it only pays if you get 3 or more, 20x for 3, 60x for 4, 200x for 5, on Achilles it start paying at 2 for 2x, 30x for 3, 200x for 4 and 800x for 5.

From what i have noticed, MG slots pay less cause you hit 4 or 5 of the same often, while on RTG slots hitting 5 of the same is rare and if it happens it will pays VERY VERY good.

 

[EasyRhino]

Bonuses. I win with bonuses.

Actually, I kind of like the RTG tables games because they're fast fast fast. Although the revamp a few months ago slowed down the action a little bit.

 

[AudiManinBoro]

Sorry this is one i agree with the mg side of things. I often hit bonuses on MG and win middling to big, with RTG who im a member of a few i just never seem to hit anything decent. I mean ok RTG can pay well on occasions but its just that occasionally. The bonuses just seem to be a little on the low side to me but i might have been unlucky 30 times in a row. hell its possible lol

 

[Mike031]

I'm not sure but i seems to see the opposite. When you check the slots payout of a RTG slot vs a MG slot, you can clearly see that RTG pays a hell of a lot much.

I totally agree with you, because on MG Slots i need very often about 300-400 spins, to get any free spins, but on RTG i hit very often the features and also evry often during a free spin (retrigger).
i've won there within two weeks two Random jackpots and every was about $ 10,000 so i won there really very much, but at the opposite to MG Slots, i've lost there only very much and the slots give me not nearly so much entertaining *lol*

 

[me_and_ed]

I have to disagree as well, my last 5 M/G deposits I have gotten hammered, my last 2 outings not even bonus rounds with M/G. The opposite with RTG, as well if you low roll with RTG you can still win 1000x+ your bet. I see it more than not in the screenshots over M/G low rolling.

 

[aka23]

I'm not sure but i seems to see the opposite. When you check the slots payout of a RTG slot vs a MG slot, you can clearly see that RTG pays a hell of a lot much. I'll give you an example : Harveys vs Achilles.

The paytables don't mean much unless you know the symbols on the reels. Achilles might pay more for various combinations, but might hit them far less often.

RTG operators can configure the payout percentage of their slots, so the payout of Achilles may vary from one RTG casino to the next. iNetBet appears to have a payout of ~95% based on audit results. I suspect most RTGs are quite a bit lower.

 

[babs7262]

i like rtg

Ive been playing for about a year and only had one cashout on an MG while at RTG had too many cashouts to count PLUS....I dont know if it's just me but it takes forever to download games on MG

 

[Mike031]

I dont know if it's just me but it takes forever to download games on MG

That's right and sometimes the download is stopped and you must start again from the beginning and another problem is, that you MUST download ALL games!
After downloading all games, you have a folder with about 1 gigabyte on downloaded files and this really sucks!
But who cares, because i'll never play at any MG Casino in the future, so it's now not really my problem

 

[Kaynos72]

The paytables don't mean much unless you know the symbols on the reels.

Well i know enough to see that being paid 10000 times my bet for 5 wild is better than being paid 2000, or being paid 400 times my bet for an A's vs 150 times.

The question really is how many of these symbols there is on each reel. From my observation, it seems easier to get 5 of a kind on a MG than it is on a RTG so it makes sense that RTG pay more.

 

[SlotsWizard]

I'm not sure but i seems to see the opposite. When you check the slots payout of a RTG slot vs a MG slot, you can clearly see that RTG pays a hell of a lot much. I'll give you an example : Harveys vs Achilles.

Harveys - Achilles :

9 : None - 5/25/200
10 : 5/20/80 - 5/25/200
J : 8/25/100 - 5/30/250
Q : 10/30/100 - 5/30/250
K : 15/40/120 - 10/50/400
A : 20/50/150 - 10/50/400
Spec 1 : 20/60/200 - 2/30/200/800
Spec 2 : 25/75/200 - 3/100/500/1250
Spec 3 : 2/30/80/500 - 5/100/1000/5000
Spec 4 : 4/400/100/800 - None
Wild : 10/50/500/2000 - 2/25/500/2500/10000
Scatter : 2/5/20/100 - 3/30/500

Just look at the Wild section. On Harveys if you get 5 wild you get paid 2000x times your line bet, on Achilles you get paid 10000 times !

First special after the As, on Harvey's it only pays if you get 3 or more, 20x for 3, 60x for 4, 200x for 5, on Achilles it start paying at 2 for 2x, 30x for 3, 200x for 4 and 800x for 5.

From what i have noticed, MG slots pay less cause you hit 4 or 5 of the same often, while on RTG slots hitting 5 of the same is rare and if it happens it will pays VERY VERY good.

You cannot compare Harveys and Achilles. I assume you intentionally selected Harveys because it has the lowest top payout (5 wilds). The reason for that is because there is a possible 25x multiplier in the bonus round. If 5 wilds paid 10000 in Harveys, at the max bet of 20 coins per payline, that's a possible $50,000 win from a $5 bet. Instead it's a 2000 coin jackpot, which means a $10,000 win from a $5 bet. That's 2000x your total bet size - which happens to equal the stupid cap that RTG games have before they stop paying. MG has no cap and would continue paying even if you hit the top prize.

 

[Kaynos72]

No it was just a random pick, i pick one that i know is popular on MG.

 

[AudiManinBoro]

slotsJunkkie is absolutley right however. No cap on an mg slot, which means the slots have the potential to pay far more than an RTG slot ever could do.

 

[KasinoKing]

You cannot compare Harveys and Achilles. I assume you intentionally selected Harveys because it has the lowest top payout (5 wilds). The reason for that is because there is a possible 25x multiplier in the bonus round. If 5 wilds paid 10000 in Harveys, at the max bet of 20 coins per payline, that's a possible $50,000 win from a $5 bet. Instead it's a 2000 coin jackpot, which means a $10,000 win from a $5 bet. That's 2000x your total bet size - which happens to equal the stupid cap that RTG games have before they stop paying. MG has no cap and would continue paying even if you hit the top prize.

I was going to say the exact same thing!
Not a good comparison due to the potential 25x multiplier.
Also, I don't think anyone here has yet established how many symbols per reel there is on an RTG slot, so we don't know the odds of big wins hitting, assuming that is, that RTG slots are actually truly random in the first place...

 

[Mike031]

However, everybody here likes playing and one person like MG Slots more, than RTGs and at the opposite another person likes RTG Slots more, than MGs, so the most important thing is only, that we have fun with it and get certainly also paid, no matter, which casino and which slot it is!

 

[just play]

I have more fun at MG, but my money last longer at RTG.

I do miss Playtech though, that was like mixing MG and RTG, I always had fun and my money lasted a long time.

 

[Mike031]

Playtech, that was like mixing MG and RTG, I always had fun and my money lasted a long time.

that's right, but their withdrawal time is too long for me, because i never get any money from any playtech casino, because i never could wait so long

 

[just play]

I cashed out 3 times at *whispering* Golden Palace, and my check was always here within 3 days.

 

[Mike031]

i thought GP is not accreddited?

 

[LaurieJim]

ive always won on rtg games. sometimes on crypto but hardly ever on mg.rivel isnt worth a dime of my time

 

[just play]

i thought GP is not accreddited?

I was playing there before I found CasinoMeister....and I never had a problem with them, I actually liked them very much for a while. Now being from USA I cannot play at playtechs anymore, I miss Captains Treasure, what a fun game!!!

 

[SlotsWizard]

that's right, but their withdrawal time is too long for me, because i never get any money from any playtech casino, because i never could wait so long

Try Bet365. They have no reverse-withdrawal period, and back when they accepted US people and Neteller was in full swing, my first withdrawal took 16 minutes.

 

[bpb]

RTG casinos? They have to be the worst software on the market. I mean their slots payout sux compared to MG. Their BJ is questionable. Their Hold'em Poker is streaky. Their Craps payout sux and questionable rng. The next time I see a RTG casino Im gonna run from IT!

The only thing questionable is your understanding of probability and statistics. RTG has many issues ... fairness of their table games is not one of them. With regard to slots ... well ... who cares if you're losing at a 5% or 10% clip. It's like spending time considering the merits of being hit in the face with a baseball bat vs a crowbar.

 

[SlotsWizard]

It's like spending time considering the merits of being hit in the face with a baseball bat vs a crowbar.

so true...

 

[lojo]

The only thing questionable is your understanding of probability and statistics. RTG has many issues ... fairness of their table games is not one of them. With regard to slots ... well ... who cares if you're losing at a 5% or 10% clip. It's like spending time considering the merits of being hit in the face with a baseball bat vs a crowbar.

Love your sense of humor! But it is the variance of slots that makes junkies of some of us. Statistics be damned where else can you put in a dollar, win a car, put in another dollar and win another car?

Also in some deep dark threads here about, some former RTG people have alluded to the fact that table games have been changed 'midstream' {(increase deck count at BJ) after a diconnect[?]} at rogue casinos.

 

[Mike031]

Try Bet365. They have no reverse-withdrawal period, and back when they accepted US people and Neteller was in full swing, my first withdrawal took 16 minutes.

Thanks for this tipp
I've registered there an account, before some months, but never played there, so maybe i should give them a try

 

[SlotsWizard]

Thanks for this tipp
I've registered there an account, before some months, but never played there, so maybe i should give them a try

I'll try to keep the derailing of this thread to a minimum -

You're welcome. Bet365 has a good comps system, and what they lack in bonuses they make up for with speedy service. Sportsbooks (except the dog) tend to be good like that. Also, in traditional sportsbook fashion, once you deposit if I remember correctly, you will need to transfer your chips from the sportsbook to the casino but you can do that all within the cashier (it's easier than Bodog).

 

[Mike031]

Btw. is their bonus really not sticky, because i can't find anything about them in their T&C ?

 

[Atlanta]

Btw. is their bonus really not sticky, because i can't find anything about them in their T&C ?

Yep. Once you met wager requirement the bonus is yours to keep. Make sure you deposit the max $200 for the bonus. Because that will be the only one you get for a long long time. (Bonus that is)

 

[Atlanta]

Back to Topic. RTG sux IMHO plain and simple. The only way you will ever catch me there. If im holding it for the police.

 

[Mike031]

Make sure you deposit the max $200 for the bonus.

The only problem is, that we have "" so i'm only able to get a 100.- bonus

 

[Atlanta]

Again, how in the world does one win at RTG?

 

[SlotsWizard]

Again, how in the world does one win at RTG?

As soon as I find out I'll let you know!

The only time I ever hit big wins at RTGs was when I was betting big ($10, $20 or $100 a spin). Everything else just gives you crap. And of course you can't bet that big for very long otherwise you'd be just as broke as if you played $1 spins.

 

[Mike031]

In my experience, the wins on a 20 cent bet, are always bigger, then on a higher one, because i get always feature after feature, when i play only with a 20 cent bet, but when i try it with a higher bet, my balance will drop down very fast to zero

 

[AudiManinBoro]

lol mike well i made 3 deposits at inetbet ovber the weekend and played on smallest coin setting, i think i can count on 3 fingers the bonuses that came out :S never mind tho i might just have been having an unlucky weekend

 

[steinhaug]

lol mike well i made 3 deposits at inetbet ovber the weekend and played on smallest coin setting, i think i can count on 3 fingers the bonuses that came out :S never mind tho i might just have been having an unlucky weekend

Touche! I deposited a $50 and went for the 200% slot bonus, giving me a $150 to wager for. Was wagering mostly from $0.20 - $1, and doing a lot of 5-10 liners for a possible better payout. I did get some features, but no feature gave me more than $10 in winnings, weee... So I can easily agree that the session quite quickly bleeded me out - and when having a feature, it didn't do anything.

How come so many players agree that it's darn hard to win at RTG? HMMMM! Who is getting played here, the casino or ourselves?

 

[Atlanta]

I dont care what anyone says. RTG is ripping people off left and right, And rewarding a small few. There are way more non-progressive winning screen shots of MG than RTG. So RTG gives you a random jackpot, so what!? How many people have RTG made millionaires from slot play compared to MG? I feel so much comfortable playing at MG and the different styles of BJ than RTG "Streaky" sessions. RTG gets the Boot from me. And I hope they really do fold.

Its a damn shame that you must .20 and .40 a bet at RTG just to feel like you getting a long session and hoping for a feature. LMAO!

 

[steinhaug]

RTG gets the Boot from me. And I hope they really do fold.

Word!

I agree, after the "Bodog is so damn great" hysteria here some weeks ago I installed that and blew a quick $1.000 on max $2 wagering, but most on $0.4 and $1 in one night, wondering what the hysteria was all about... And then I tried that easy $50 ($100 in bonus, $150 total) on InetBet without any luck either.

Those random jackpots, seems to me theese are a way of ensuring RTG gets the proper payout. Seems tha machines are paying out far to little, so they need to push a random jackpot here and there to make it...

 

[1819]

I dont care what anyone says. RTG is ripping people off left and right, And rewarding a small few. There are way more non-progressive winning screen shots of MG than RTG. So RTG gives you a random jackpot, so what!? How many people have RTG made millionaires from slot play compared to MG? I feel so much comfortable playing at MG and the different styles of BJ than RTG "Streaky" sessions. RTG gets the Boot from me. And I hope they really do fold.

Its a damn shame that you must .20 and .40 a bet at RTG just to feel like you getting a long session and hoping for a feature. LMAO!

i agree with you but...casinos are not supposed to make people rich. they are is business for themselves. looking to win, as compared to play, is a bad attitude. now i do agree with you that it has not become fun to play. i throw a few bucks in inet here and there after playing thousands a month when we could. the main reason i dont deposit much anymore? well like you said. rtg has become almost impossible to get any play out of. they are pretty much it though. they got us by the short hairs.

 

[katodog]

Yeah, like I said earlier, the games are fun but I can never get a winning session...ever! It's too bad. I think I have to stop or cut back at RtG casinos

 

[Mike031]

I dont care what anyone says. RTG is ripping people off left and right

Probably i'm really the only one, who have luck on this casino?

i looked now in my bodog account and had a $ 11.28 bonus on it and at my first spin i got this nice feature win:

ok, it's not soo big, but it doubles my balance

maybe i had all the luck, but at the opposite all other players have the pain?

 

[AudiManinBoro]

13 $ win tho isnt all that good from a .20 bet. Ive won hundreds many times off similar bets just on standard bonus runs on mg casinos. prime property as an example for a .25 spin netted me 178 $ just last night. Thunderstruck as another example can pay hundreds also on penny bets. Somehow i dont think RTG slots can compete unless your lucky enough to hit the random which lets face it most of us are not going to do. Inetbet as per last 6 deposits has totally fleeced me yet again. sigh never mind youd think id learn lol

It does appear however Mike that you are somehow stealing everybodys luck lol

 

[Mike031]

13 $ win tho isnt all that good from a .20 bet.

Yes i know, but as i said, this was the very first spin, so it was okay *lol*

 

[AudiManinBoro]

lol yeah it was a good start

 

[Mike031]

But the end was certainly not so good, because i've made the mistake, that i went to "Rain Dance" and the balance dropped down within 10 minutes to zero, certainly without any free spins *rofl*

 

[AudiManinBoro]

lol ive given up on rain dance. A blokes likley to die of thirst waiting for the heavens to open on that game lol

 

[Atlanta]

I agree Mr Audi 5000. With MG a .25 bet or so can land you hundreds. I miss playtech somewhat. But RTG you couldn't beat me with a stick to play them ever again. It's not just slots, their BJ and Craps are very questionable. Forget the fast pace. I rather have my MG any day.

 

[Mike031]

@Atlanta, ok we everbody know now, that you don't like RTG Casinos, but why do you play there, when you hate them?