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Atlanta

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RTG casinos? They have to be the worst software on the market. I mean their slots payout sux compared to MG. Their BJ is questionable. Their Hold'em Poker is streaky. Their Craps payout sux and questionable rng. The next time I see a RTG casino Im gonna run from IT!
 

katodog

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RTG casinos? They have to be the worst software on the market. I mean their slots payout sux compared to MG. Their BJ is questionable. Their Hold'em Poker is streaky. Their Craps payout sux and questionable rng. The next time I see a RTG casino Im gonna run from IT!

I was thinking that very same thing especially with the slots. They have potential to be good but there is no way in hell I can ever win a decent amount to cashout on unless I play $5 or more a spin or I hit a random jp.
I play .40 per spin and once in a while I might hit for 25 or 30 bucks but its not enough for me to cashout. Also, getting a bonus feature is like pulling teeth.Like I said..the slots have potential to be fun but they fall short in many areas.
 

Kaynos72

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I'm not sure but i seems to see the opposite. When you check the slots payout of a RTG slot vs a MG slot, you can clearly see that RTG pays a hell of a lot much. I'll give you an example : Harveys vs Achilles.

Harveys - Achilles :

9 : None - 5/25/200
10 : 5/20/80 - 5/25/200
J : 8/25/100 - 5/30/250
Q : 10/30/100 - 5/30/250
K : 15/40/120 - 10/50/400
A : 20/50/150 - 10/50/400
Spec 1 : 20/60/200 - 2/30/200/800
Spec 2 : 25/75/200 - 3/100/500/1250
Spec 3 : 2/30/80/500 - 5/100/1000/5000
Spec 4 : 4/400/100/800 - None
Wild : 10/50/500/2000 - 2/25/500/2500/10000
Scatter : 2/5/20/100 - 3/30/500

Just look at the Wild section. On Harveys if you get 5 wild you get paid 2000x times your line bet, on Achilles you get paid 10000 times !

First special after the As, on Harvey's it only pays if you get 3 or more, 20x for 3, 60x for 4, 200x for 5, on Achilles it start paying at 2 for 2x, 30x for 3, 200x for 4 and 800x for 5.

From what i have noticed, MG slots pay less cause you hit 4 or 5 of the same often, while on RTG slots hitting 5 of the same is rare and if it happens it will pays VERY VERY good.
 

EasyRhino

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Bonuses. I win with bonuses.

Actually, I kind of like the RTG tables games because they're fast fast fast. Although the revamp a few months ago slowed down the action a little bit.
 

AudiManinBoro

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Sorry this is one i agree with the mg side of things. I often hit bonuses on MG and win middling to big, with RTG who im a member of a few i just never seem to hit anything decent. I mean ok RTG can pay well on occasions but its just that occasionally. The bonuses just seem to be a little on the low side to me but i might have been unlucky 30 times in a row. hell its possible lol
 

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I'm not sure but i seems to see the opposite. When you check the slots payout of a RTG slot vs a MG slot, you can clearly see that RTG pays a hell of a lot much.

I totally agree with you, because on MG Slots i need very often about 300-400 spins, to get any free spins, but on RTG i hit very often the features and also evry often during a free spin (retrigger).
i've won there within two weeks two Random jackpots and every was about $ 10,000 so i won there really very much, but at the opposite to MG Slots, i've lost there only very much and the slots give me not nearly so much entertaining *lol*
 

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I have to disagree as well, my last 5 M/G deposits I have gotten hammered, my last 2 outings not even bonus rounds with M/G. The opposite with RTG, as well if you low roll with RTG you can still win 1000x+ your bet. I see it more than not in the screenshots over M/G low rolling.
 

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I'm not sure but i seems to see the opposite. When you check the slots payout of a RTG slot vs a MG slot, you can clearly see that RTG pays a hell of a lot much. I'll give you an example : Harveys vs Achilles.

The paytables don't mean much unless you know the symbols on the reels. Achilles might pay more for various combinations, but might hit them far less often.

RTG operators can configure the payout percentage of their slots, so the payout of Achilles may vary from one RTG casino to the next. iNetBet appears to have a payout of ~95% based on audit results. I suspect most RTGs are quite a bit lower.
 

babs7262

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i like rtg

Ive been playing for about a year and only had one cashout on an MG while at RTG had too many cashouts to count PLUS....I dont know if it's just me but it takes forever to download games on MG
 

Mike031

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I dont know if it's just me but it takes forever to download games on MG
That's right and sometimes the download is stopped and you must start again from the beginning and another problem is, that you MUST download ALL games!
After downloading all games, you have a folder with about 1 gigabyte on downloaded files and this really sucks!
But who cares, because i'll never play at any MG Casino in the future, so it's now not really my problem :)
 

Kaynos72

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The paytables don't mean much unless you know the symbols on the reels.

Well i know enough to see that being paid 10000 times my bet for 5 wild is better than being paid 2000, or being paid 400 times my bet for an A's vs 150 times.

The question really is how many of these symbols there is on each reel. From my observation, it seems easier to get 5 of a kind on a MG than it is on a RTG so it makes sense that RTG pay more.
 

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I'm not sure but i seems to see the opposite. When you check the slots payout of a RTG slot vs a MG slot, you can clearly see that RTG pays a hell of a lot much. I'll give you an example : Harveys vs Achilles.

Harveys - Achilles :

9 : None - 5/25/200
10 : 5/20/80 - 5/25/200
J : 8/25/100 - 5/30/250
Q : 10/30/100 - 5/30/250
K : 15/40/120 - 10/50/400
A : 20/50/150 - 10/50/400
Spec 1 : 20/60/200 - 2/30/200/800
Spec 2 : 25/75/200 - 3/100/500/1250
Spec 3 : 2/30/80/500 - 5/100/1000/5000
Spec 4 : 4/400/100/800 - None
Wild : 10/50/500/2000 - 2/25/500/2500/10000
Scatter : 2/5/20/100 - 3/30/500

Just look at the Wild section. On Harveys if you get 5 wild you get paid 2000x times your line bet, on Achilles you get paid 10000 times !

First special after the As, on Harvey's it only pays if you get 3 or more, 20x for 3, 60x for 4, 200x for 5, on Achilles it start paying at 2 for 2x, 30x for 3, 200x for 4 and 800x for 5.

From what i have noticed, MG slots pay less cause you hit 4 or 5 of the same often, while on RTG slots hitting 5 of the same is rare and if it happens it will pays VERY VERY good.

You cannot compare Harveys and Achilles. I assume you intentionally selected Harveys because it has the lowest top payout (5 wilds). The reason for that is because there is a possible 25x multiplier in the bonus round. If 5 wilds paid 10000 in Harveys, at the max bet of 20 coins per payline, that's a possible $50,000 win from a $5 bet. Instead it's a 2000 coin jackpot, which means a $10,000 win from a $5 bet. That's 2000x your total bet size - which happens to equal the stupid cap that RTG games have before they stop paying. MG has no cap and would continue paying even if you hit the top prize.
 

AudiManinBoro

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slotsJunkkie is absolutley right however. No cap on an mg slot, which means the slots have the potential to pay far more than an RTG slot ever could do.
 

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You cannot compare Harveys and Achilles. I assume you intentionally selected Harveys because it has the lowest top payout (5 wilds). The reason for that is because there is a possible 25x multiplier in the bonus round. If 5 wilds paid 10000 in Harveys, at the max bet of 20 coins per payline, that's a possible $50,000 win from a $5 bet. Instead it's a 2000 coin jackpot, which means a $10,000 win from a $5 bet. That's 2000x your total bet size - which happens to equal the stupid cap that RTG games have before they stop paying. MG has no cap and would continue paying even if you hit the top prize.
I was going to say the exact same thing!
Not a good comparison due to the potential 25x multiplier.
Also, I don't think anyone here has yet established how many symbols per reel there is on an RTG slot, so we don't know the odds of big wins hitting, assuming that is, that RTG slots are actually truly random in the first place...

:rolleyes:
 

Mike031

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However, everybody here likes playing and one person like MG Slots more, than RTGs and at the opposite another person likes RTG Slots more, than MGs, so the most important thing is only, that we have fun with it and get certainly also paid, no matter, which casino and which slot it is! ;)
 

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I have more fun at MG, but my money last longer at RTG.

I do miss Playtech though, that was like mixing MG and RTG, I always had fun and my money lasted a long time.
 

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Playtech, that was like mixing MG and RTG, I always had fun and my money lasted a long time.

that's right, but their withdrawal time is too long for me, because i never get any money from any playtech casino, because i never could wait so long;)
 

just play

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:lolup:


I cashed out 3 times at *whispering* Golden Palace, and my check was always here within 3 days.
 

just play

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i thought GP is not accreddited?


I was playing there before I found CasinoMeister....and I never had a problem with them, I actually liked them very much for a while. Now being from USA I cannot play at playtechs anymore, I miss Captains Treasure, what a fun game!!!
 

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that's right, but their withdrawal time is too long for me, because i never get any money from any playtech casino, because i never could wait so long;)
Try Bet365. They have no reverse-withdrawal period, and back when they accepted US people and Neteller was in full swing, my first withdrawal took 16 minutes.
 

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RTG casinos? They have to be the worst software on the market. I mean their slots payout sux compared to MG. Their BJ is questionable. Their Hold'em Poker is streaky. Their Craps payout sux and questionable rng. The next time I see a RTG casino Im gonna run from IT!

The only thing questionable is your understanding of probability and statistics. RTG has many issues ... fairness of their table games is not one of them. With regard to slots ... well ... who cares if you're losing at a 5% or 10% clip. It's like spending time considering the merits of being hit in the face with a baseball bat vs a crowbar.
 
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