Whine and Moan Having bad luck at RTG casinos

[mentor]

I would like to say, I am very happy with my choices lately and that was weeding out many of the RTG casinos. They were once the cream of the crop to play at, in the same league as Intercasino and a few others that banned USA players.

Now they have become (IMO) the leeches of gaming. Sucking the blood out of players because they can knowingly without any competition to fight against at this time.

There will come a time soon, that other platforms (casinos) will be allowed to offer their services again to USA players and we, as players, do not forget how we have been treated and how these games have been changed to hurt us during this time of transitioning.

RTG casinos will be the last casino anyone will play at once the doors open again and the doors will open again.

It is not still too late to get the games back on track, because some players have not finally closed their accounts but the ones that have closed their accounts, it will be hard to woo them back once we get a taste of other platforms that give us our monies worth.

I guess the tightening had to happen even more so, since so many have been closing out their accounts, so those that still play them, please be careful. They will need to make lots more money before the tide turns and other casinos enter the arena during the new gaming era comes in to play for RTG knows, they will have some stiff competition soon and are filling their pockets now before it happens.
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I would like to say, I am very happy with my choices lately and that was weeding out many of the RTG casinos. They were once the cream of the crop to play at, in the same league as Intercasino and a few others that banned USA players.

Now they have become (IMO) the leeches of gaming. Sucking the blood out of players because they can knowingly without any competition to fight against at this time.

There will come a time soon, that other platforms (casinos) will be allowed to offer their services again to USA players and we, as players, do not forget how we have been treated and how these games have been changed to hurt us during this time of transitioning.

RTG casinos will be the last casino anyone will play at once the doors open again and the doors will open again.

It is not still too late to get the games back on track, because some players have not finally closed their accounts but the ones that have closed their accounts, it will be hard to woo them back once we get a taste of other platforms that give us our monies worth.

I guess the tightening had to happen even more so, since so many have been closing out their accounts, so those that still play them, please be careful. They will need to make lots more money before the tide turns and other casinos enter the arena during the new gaming era comes in to play for RTG knows, they will have some stiff competition soon and are filling their pockets now before it happens.
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In 8 months im not withdrawing anything
5 different RTG casinos
Im losing more than 60k and 95% from the same game
They are the worst and lately i think this goes with ip address they can make you not win ever
The amount of hate i have for this guys is insane
I dont know if i can do something legally and im looking at it .... you cannot even contact them

 

[The Dude]

Hiya Mentor - sorry but that was a 15 year old thread that you posted to. Which RTG casinos seem to be giving you financial grief?

 

[mulven]

Perhaps you've been playing at sites where it's set to 91% RTP, as that would give you a pretty rough ride

 

[The Dude]

I used to play a LOT of RTG casinos back in the day, and I was most ALWAYS in the black - not red. How did I do this? I never took a bonus and I played whatever game I wanted - no strings.

So if you want to actually win more often than not - never take a bonus.

Take a bonus if you want to enjoy the games longer - that was their initial purpose (besides locking you in to an unmanageable and unrealistic play throughrequirement) . But bonuses will put you at a disadvantage. Just my brief thought on the matter.

Why am I bringing this up? It's because lower RTPs will cause you to play out all of your cash if you are trying to meet play through requirements. If you don't take a bonus, you have no obligation to continue playing (of course you'll have to play through your deposit 1-3x depending on the casino). You won't care too much about RTP if you can cash out whenever you get some decent hits.

 

[lockinlove]

Perhaps you've been playing at sites where it's set to 91% RTP, as that would give you a pretty rough ride

100% this. A lot of RTG casinos running this rtp level. Im pretty sure the entire casinomax group of casinos is on 91%. So if its those casinos, I would run far away. You can tell which is on 91% and which isnt and it sounds like you are. 91% can be never ending losses with very very rare wins/cashouts ever.

 

[dunover]

100% this. A lot of RTG casinos running this rtp level. Im pretty sure the entire casinomax group of casinos is on 91%. So if its those casinos, I would run far away. You can tell which is on 91% and which isnt and it sounds like you are. 91% can be never ending losses with very very rare wins/cashouts ever.

But not when you first join lol...

 

[Keith Hargrave]

So is there any way of knowing the RTP of any particular RTG casino. Because i notice its getting nearly impossible to cash out anything at any of them to be honest., Im to the point of completely turning away from them for Rival, Soft bet, B Gaming and such casinos which im pretty green on knowing and playing.. But i e been playing for fun a lot lately just to familiarize myself with some of the slots before i commit myself to depositing much to begin.

 

[StupidButLucky]

I used to play a LOT of RTG casinos back in the day, and I was most ALWAYS in the black - not red. How did I do this? I never took a bonus and I played whatever game I wanted - no strings.

So if you want to actually win more often than not - never take a bonus.

Take a bonus if you want to enjoy the games longer - that was their initial purpose (besides locking you in to an unmanageable and unrealistic play throughrequirement) . But bonuses will put you at a disadvantage. Just my brief thought on the matter.

Why am I bringing this up? It's because lower RTPs will cause you to play out all of your cash if you are trying to meet play through requirements. If you don't take a bonus, you have no obligation to continue playing (of course you'll have to play through your deposit 1-3x depending on the casino). You won't care too much about RTP if you can cash out whenever you get some decent hits.

these days are not only the wager requirements are the problem. You need to read the bonus terms very good.
the bigger problem these days are not the wager requirements, the problem number one is the max win from bonus. You can win 10.000€, but drop down to 200€ after you complete wager bonus

 

[lockinlove]

So is there any way of knowing the RTP of any particular RTG casino. Because i notice its getting nearly impossible to cash out anything at any of them to be honest., Im to the point of completely turning away from them for Rival, Soft bet, B Gaming and such casinos which im pretty green on knowing and playing.. But i e been playing for fun a lot lately just to familiarize myself with some of the slots before i commit myself to depositing much to begin.

No there isnt. Support wont tell you and if they do, they will tell you its on the highest which I dont believe.

Id imagine most RTG casinos have lowered their rtp like all the other casinos in the industry.
I havent played slots in a month and have quit. Not because of wins or losses but because the industry has become too slimey for me. I used to play a few times a week for the past few years but now I do not play at all.

They have lowered all the returns and has become nothing but greed or the need to survive. I am not going to deposit on a Friday night to hit one bonus that pays me 7x. Or having to look through every provider to see what the rtp setting it is on. Not thanks. Ruins the fun.



If people continue to play with these industry wide changes of rtp, I see a lot of financial issues for many many people. Anytime I was on a slot and it seemed to be running cold or off, I would check the rtp and sure enough it was lowered from 97% down to 93%. The slots play totally different.

So I just quit. Its not worth it anymore. No fun, rare returns, casinos not paying, casino demanding SOW, casinos demanding endless verification to deter you from cashing out.

I personally think the industry is on its way out over the next few years. Nobody can sustain low rtp.

 

[The Dude]

these days are not only the wager requirements are the problem. You need to read the bonus terms very good.
the bigger problem these days are not the wager requirements, the problem number one is the max win from bonus. You can win 10.000€, but drop down to 200€ after you complete wager bonus

Then why use a bonus at all? I have played regularly online from 1998 until around 2021, and I may have taken about three to five bonuses TOTAL - mainly just to check on some casino functionality on keeping track of bonus usage.

Bonuses are designed for you to lose your money - that is pretty obvious. What more is it to that? LOL

 

[armster]

100% the casino max group is set to lowest RTP. The sessions had on those casinos aside from my first deposit (as @dunover implied) are unequivocally some of the worst slot sessions I've ever had. Luckily it was a cheap lesson to learn because you can deposit very little, take advantage of massive bonus offers, and play with a large starting balance.

 

[mulven]

100% the casino max group is set to lowest RTP. The sessions had on those casinos aside from my first deposit (as @dunover implied) are unequivocally some of the worst slot sessions I've ever had. Luckily it was a cheap lesson to learn because you can deposit very little, take advantage of massive bonus offers, and play with a large starting balance.

I think anywhere offering 400-1000% matches is using the 91% option. With those bonuses, the offers are still profitable but with under 200% they start to become bad. I'd be too scared to play RTG with pure cash as I'd be too worried about them being 91%.

There are offers like the anden online "no rules" bonuses where you wager your deposit and bonus once and are then free to withdraw any winnings above the bonus amount (sticky). Probably the best RTG promotion I've come across so far.