Hilarious thread..

[colinsunderland]

Sorry, I had to come back and answer. What part of my posts were fabricated? They were all factual. A user called spintee won nicola's supposed giveaway under a playford7 email account. Dont you think those 2 should be told that theres potentially dodgy things going on under their usernames on other gambling related sites?

Lets see the evidence Playford or Spintee are the same people on here?

You clearly accused them of being the same members here, a fact that has been denied by one of them, so lets see your evidence.

 

[goatwack]

Thanks for the comp Nicola

I'll guess 576x

 

[dionysus]

strangely, I don't read or follow other forums.
And again, close it when? I came in when it was 10 pages already long; there were no reports and no title to have caused me to catch the thread sooner.
At 10 pages, noone had flagged nicola, a member here, so I did. To which she responded same page

 

[Playford7]

And also this. If it's not you then sorry, but I only put the facts out there.
But surely you would have wanted to know so you could clear the air if there is someone impersonating CM members

It’s not me. Ask your messiah mr hackz whom I’ve been emailing and proved it not me earlier in the thread via my email contact. He’s your admin over there isn’t he? He was decent btw.

 

[Kerply]

The thread was only opened here because it was closed elsewhere, otherwise why wasn't it opened earlier? The OP started it to have a go at 3 members on here with no proof whatsoever. Nicola had already replied numerous times on the other forum, and has said she will post a screenshot when the 7 day cooling off period is over. What else was she supposed to say on here? If she doesn't then she will rightly be called out, if she does then some people are going to look pretty stupid.

Either way, this thread is a witch hunt against 3 members on here, and if, instead of say Playford being mentioned, you were, then I would bet the thread would have been closed.

So you're saying spintee and playford shouldn't be told

Lets see the evidence Playford or Spintee are the same people on here?

You clearly accused them of being the same members here, a fact that has been denied by one of them, so lets see your evidence.

So you're saying it's not dodgy using 2 CMs usernames to win a comp on another site?
Give over

 

[Kerply]

It’s not me. Ask your messiah mr hackz whom I’ve been emailing and proved it not me earlier in the thread via my email contact. He’s your admin over there isn’t he? He was decent btw.

So it's someone impersonating you, and you would have wanted to know right? Or just remain oblivious to it?

 

[colinsunderland]

So you're saying spintee and playford shouldn't be told

So you're saying it's not dodgy using 2 CMs usernames to win a comp on another site?
Give over

You forget what you wrote?

So it looks like Nicola offered a 50% bonus giveaway for the forum, then got her mate spintee/playford to win it with a guess of 3 quid off the total by saying it's his birthday, which doesnt tally up with his birthdays on here!

She blatantly refuses to show screenshots of when she played the bonuses, and says she doesnt know who spintee/playford is despite having numerous interactions on here!

Clearly accusing them of being the same person and the same people as on here, and fraudulently claiming the prize. Again, evidence?

 

[Kerply]

I'm gone now. This is over for 7 days

 

[Nicola]

The more I read messages from senior members and staff last week on the other forum the clearer this becomes. A large group of members with a deliberate plan to troll the competition and/or share the winnings between them.

I'm now posed with the option of showing the proof of admin knowing what was going on with widescale abuse and fraud and clearing my name or keeping private messages private and putting up with being called a liar here.

If the real Playford and Spintee are innocent in this which I strongly believe they are, then it goes to show the length that trolls are going to cause trouble amongst us. Its really sad that people have nothing better to do than open fake accounts just to wind others up.

 

[Playford7]

So it's someone impersonating you, and you would have wanted to know right? Or just remain oblivious to it?

Well someone wanting to impersonate me is understandable. I’m a fucking legend, I’m like John wick to streamers...
but in fairness I’m glad you did point it out, it’s just the manner in which you did it that has probably annoyed some folks.
I’ll hold off killing you with a pencil...for now, a fucking pencil.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Thanks for the comp Nicola

I'll guess 576x

Tell you what, that comp puts the remarkable community thread comps to shame.

We may need to rename that 'the not so remarkable cm community' thread.

 

[colinsunderland]

I'm gone now. This is over for 7 days

oh theres a surprise, asked to show evidence, runs away like a sad little troll. Sure you will be missed.

 

[goatwack]

Other forums at us

 

[Playford7]

The more I read messages from senior members and staff last week on the other forum the clearer this becomes. A large group of members with a deliberate plan to troll the competition and/or share the winnings between them.

I'm now posed with the option of showing the proof of admin knowing what was going on with widescale abuse and fraud and clearing my name or keeping private messages private and putting up with being called a liar here.

If the real Playford and Spintee are innocent in this which I strongly believe they are, then it goes to show the length that trolls are going to cause trouble amongst us. Its really sad that people have nothing better to do than open fake accounts just to wind others up.

Did you read my emails Nicola between me and hackz I posted on here?.. I’m sure you know who he is.
he stated he knows I’m no duplicate playford and it’s clearly not me.
I also never once aimed blame at you on here or via email to hackz even though I’m involved in some scummy affy/streamer farce.
so please don’t ‘if’ me it’s offensive given you know exactly my stance on anything related to streamers, and that kind of affiliate and such giveaways.

 

[paul7388]

You lot are so bloody gullible.

Playford is up to his neck in it and has managed to convince you all that he is innocent.

The length's he will go to for 6k.

#PLAYFORDSGUILTY

 

[Nicola]

Sad pathethic lives some have, trolling behind a keyboard

 

[goatwack]

I maintain that one of the Playfords is kind of innocent

 

[paul7388]

Sad pathethic lives some have, trolling behind a keyboard

Sadly that is the thing with the internet. It is a way for sad people to get enjoyment out of their lives while hurting others.

 

[dionysus]

It's Sunday.
I'm sure I/we all have more interesting things to do.
Accusations were levvied against 2 members, said 2 members were to able to respond and/or clear the air.
I've even pmed Nicola with her blessing to close the thread as she's addressed what's she's wished.

Any private concerns I'm sure can be private messaged if need be.

Thread locked for further replies before it denigates further.
Both @maxd and @Casinomeister have been flagged to the threead and can re-open if need be.

 

[paul7388]

I maintain that one of the Playfords is kind of innocent

What one tho.

 

[dunover]

Everything is in the video. The time is shown on every game I played either top or bottom left. The cashout was made at 02:40 AM on Saturday. The withdrawal is pending (24-48hr) and the account on cool-off for 7 days.

Right - before this gets too fractious:

1. Nicola stores bonuses up at a WHITE HAT casino that shall remain nameless.
2. She states they will be played out Friday 6th March 22:00.
3. The forum members over there are invited to guess the total combined winnings, and post their guess before that time.
4. Somebody arrives at CM alleging it's rigged.
5. It also transpires member ID's here have been cloned, but that's not really relevant to the general premise that it was allegedly rigged.
6. There are questions raised concerning the timeline.

So, we are told that the cash-out cash 02:40 Saturday 7th. March, shown at the end of the video.

Now that does raise a few questions when you consider the video was uploaded to YT on Friday 6th. March.

As an experienced YT'er I know that regardless of your download internet speed, that would have taken a couple of hours to upload too. So there is a serious discrepancy there, taking it all at face value. A video is uploaded, BEFORE the time of the cash-out it actually shows?

So yes, there is every reason for members here to question why their ID's are allegedly being trolled somewhere else and again, the details we are given concerning the veracity of the comp.

When push comes to shove, we don't allow Portal Wars here, it says so in the rules and this is showing signs of turning into one.

At the end of the day if the people concerned ARE NOT really members here, despite the monikers, then it really doesn't matter too much - it's her money, she can do what she likes with it, she can give it to the Street Drinkers Guild for all I care, whether by random guessing or design.

I notice the thread originally posted on that forum has been dramatically cut so accusations and 'evidence' by posters has been removed. It's either a brilliant publicity stunt or good intentions that have turned to ratshit. Either way, I don't think we need it imported over here.

 

[maxd]

I'm gone.

Indeed you are: 30 days for being a troll.

 

[The Dude]

So this is what goes on here on Sunday nights?

Just because a mod has clicked the link to a thread doesn't mean they had read the entire thing. Sheesh this is 14 pages of garbage - and it's in the Swedish section for christsakes!

Just an FYI - there was a douchebag webmaster that was scraping this forum and setting it up like it was his own - which by the way was using folks user names from here - and their posts.

The Internet is full of assholes.

 

[The Dude]

And just to add - no one reported this post - so it flew under at least my radar. And I was busy watching Netflix last night, so there! lol

 

[Harry_BKK]

The more I read messages from senior members and staff last week on the other forum the clearer this becomes. A large group of members with a deliberate plan to troll the competition and/or share the winnings between them.

I'm now posed with the option of showing the proof of admin knowing what was going on with widescale abuse and fraud and clearing my name or keeping private messages private and putting up with being called a liar here.

If the real Playford and Spintee are innocent in this which I strongly believe they are, then it goes to show the length that trolls are going to cause trouble amongst us. Its really sad that people have nothing better to do than open fake accounts just to wind others up.

You knew very well what was going on. You were tagged and asked whether you are OK with it. So please do not accuse others of fraud when you knew about it all along and didn't object to it.

As you can see in the last post of the thread, most regular members took part in it. Hence, there can't be some "widescale abuse and fraud" or dozens of clandestine syndicate threads. It's not like the forum has 1000s of active users.

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[Harry_BKK]

Right - before this gets too fractious:

1. Nicola stores bonuses up at a WHITE HAT casino that shall remain nameless.
2. She states they will be played out Friday 6th March 22:00.
3. The forum members over there are invited to guess the total combined winnings, and post their guess before that time.
4. Somebody arrives at CM alleging it's rigged.
5. It also transpires member ID's here have been cloned, but that's not really relevant to the general premise that it was allegedly rigged.
6. There are questions raised concerning the timeline.

So, we are told that the cash-out cash 02:40 Saturday 7th. March, shown at the end of the video.

Now that does raise a few questions when you consider the video was uploaded to YT on Friday 6th. March.

As an experienced YT'er I know that regardless of your download internet speed, that would have taken a couple of hours to upload too. So there is a serious discrepancy there, taking it all at face value. A video is uploaded, BEFORE the time of the cash-out it actually shows?

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So yes, there is every reason for members here to question why their ID's are allegedly being trolled somewhere else and again, the details we are given concerning the veracity of the comp.

When push comes to shove, we don't allow Portal Wars here, it says so in the rules and this is showing signs of turning into one.

At the end of the day if the people concerned ARE NOT really members here, despite the monikers, then it really doesn't matter too much - it's her money, she can do what she likes with it, she can give it to the Street Drinkers Guild for all I care, whether by random guessing or design.

I notice the thread originally posted on that forum has been dramatically cut so accusations and 'evidence' by posters has been removed. It's either a brilliant publicity stunt or good intentions that have turned to ratshit. Either way, I don't think we need it imported over here.

Someone on the other forum picked the upload time up and got this reply from Nicola.

Which is bollocks, because YT servers are not based in California only. AFAIK, they (Google) actually have some directly in London, UK.

Second, YT links the publishing time to your local time zone. I've been uploading videos for nearly a year now and never adjusted any time zone. Just checked the YT account and couldn't find any setting where you could actually do it.

Here's is one of my recent examples for Gorilla Kingdom. On the left is the record from the YT upload studio and on the right the file properties from my laptop. As you can see, I finished recording at 11:24 PM on 5th March and it was published at 23:31 on 5th March. If the PST time zone would apply, then it should be about 14 hours earlier as that is the time difference between my region and PST. Hence, her claim that the time zone is PST and that is why the date shown is the 6th not the 7th is rather questionable.

In essence, the video must have been uploaded on the 6th March, unless she has some extra special YT account with the time zone set to PST/California.

Plus, as you can see the video has Belgravia as location, and YT would pick the time zone for that location. It clearly says uploaded on the 6th March.

 

[Harry_BKK]

One last thing which made me wonder this morning.

She had a starting balance of 4,000 and managed to amass no less than 77 bonuses with an average bet of $3, some with $4 or $5.

That amounts to a net $51 or a mere 17 spins on average for each bonus trigger (not taking into account base game wins or the like). Who on earth is that lucky on games with a built-in house edge????

Mind you, some like Lil Devil were collectable bonuses which can take 100s or even 1000s of spins to get to the trigger.

 

[geordiecolin]

One last thing which made me wonder this morning.

She had a starting balance of 4,000 and managed to amass no less than 77 bonuses with an average bet of $3, some with $4 or $5.

That amounts to a net $51 or a mere 17 spins on average for each bonus trigger (no taking into account base game wins or the like). Who on earth is that lucky on games with a built-in house edge????

Mind you, some like Lil Devil were collectable bonuses which can take 100s or even 1000s of spins to get to the trigger.

I wizzed through the vid and noticed that there where a number of bonuses ready to be triggered like Lil Devil just one heart away from being triggered. Not only does it take a lot of money to reach that point with such slots but it took a further number of spins to actually trigger those bonuses.
On top of that she insisted on taking an extra spin after completing each bonus which also contributes to skewed outcome to what I have understood a bonus hunt comp to be-the results of already triggered bonuses only without any other spins taken.
So if it had been executed correctly then someone else would have won the comp.

I think Dunover was the rightful winner

 

[mack341]

You knew very well what was going on. You were tagged and asked whether you are OK with it. So please do not accuse others of fraud when you knew about it all along and didn't object to it.

As you can see in the last post of the thread, most regular members took part in it. Hence, there can't be some "widescale abuse and fraud" or dozens of clandestine syndicate threads. It's not like the forum has 1000s of active users.

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so if mr stuart arsenal fan wins he has to share the winnings with everyone else? [if he comments on the thread]

6k seems an awful lot of money to hand out to mostly a load of streamer fanboys, you could run months of comps similar to the remarkable one you created Harry.

I must admit though I am struggling to see what Nicola stands to gain from this exercise, other than being popular on that forum...I wonder what Rocknrolla's verdict/opinion is on the whole debacle?

Edit: just read that attachment again, it's badly explained, but it seems they share the money only if they post 'happy to share' not a general comment. So spintee clone can trouser the 6k all for himself

 

[geordiecolin]

One last thing which made me wonder this morning.

She had a starting balance of 4,000 and managed to amass no less than 77 bonuses with an average bet of $3, some with $4 or $5.

That amounts to a net $51 or a mere 17 spins on average for each bonus trigger (not taking into account base game wins or the like). Who on earth is that lucky on games with a built-in house edge????

Mind you, some like Lil Devil were collectable bonuses which can take 100s or even 1000s of spins to get to the trigger.

Which begs a few questions. One of them for me being was she playing with real money? Is it possible to auto trigger a number of bonuses and stack them up via an affiliate account where no real money is used?

 

[spintee]

I'm back I hope everyone is well. just had a message saying to check this thread out. I have not read and only seen where my name is hyperlinked. I will see what it's all about now. Sorry I have not been around.

 

[goatwack]

Well you took your time

 

[Harry_BKK]

Which begs a few questions. One of them for me being was she playing with real money? Is it possible to auto trigger a number of bonuses and stack them up via an affiliate account where no real money is used?

Anything is possible in the streamer/affy/online casino world!

 

[Harry_BKK]

I'm back I hope everyone is well. just had a message saying to check this thread out. I have not read and only seen where my name is hyperlinked. I will see what it's all about now. Sorry I have not been around.

Welcome back, mate. You've been renamed Stuart and got now multiple kids on the other forum.

Google: March Giveaway - Live Chat to find the thread.

 

[geordiecolin]

Anything is possible in the streamer/affy/online casino world!

Sunlight is the best disinfectant

 

[spintee]

Can someone give me a break down on what's going on?

I not the best of readers and my heads spinning trying to see what's what. First of all I have entered no competition as far as I know and that screen shot Jono put up of the spintee account with arsanal picture I have no clue about? Site?

I call my self spintee as I am known as Tee where I am from and I like a spin on the slots (spin tee) Someone would have used that name for deception in my eyes but I wait to see what's going on.

There could well be another spintee out there but I can assure you that the one mentioned or what I can see is not me,

 

[Harry_BKK]

Can someone give me a break down on what's going on?

I not the best of readers and my heads spinning trying to see what's what. First of all I have enterd no competition as far as I know anywhere and that scraeen shot Jono put up of the spintee account with arsanal picture

Somebody called Stuart opened a couple of weeks ago an account with your nickname on the other forum (TheGamblingCommunity) and took part in a comp Nicola held. The member who guessed the closest result would win 50% of her winnings from a bonus hunt. It turns out the prize was 6K and "spintee's" guess was just $3 off the correct amount. A miracle, signs up just two weeks ago, impersonates you and then posts an almost 100% accurate guess.

That "spintee" made a few posts that seemed to read like it is you, e.g. that your were active on CM some time ago but the writing style was totally different.

Nicola claims she does not know the Stuart/spintee impersonator and all has been legit. However, some questionable things have come up that quite a few members there and here think that this was a rigged contest and only held to gain subscribers for a new Youtube channel she is setting up.

 

[Borgie]

Can someone give me a break down on what's going on?

I not the best of readers and my heads spinning trying to see what's what. First of all I have entered no competition as far as I know and that screen shot Jono put up of the spintee account with arsanal picture I have no clue about? Site?

I call my self spintee as I am known as Tee where I am from and I like a spin on the slots (spin tee) Someone would have used that name for deception in my eyes but I wait to see what's going on

Also the account the person made in your name was actually made on an existing account that was originally in playfords name and that account was banned . Which means that the winnings would be void anyway. It's by no means straightforward lol.

 

[goatwack]

And so it came to pass that Spintee took one look, shrugged his shoulders, and left CM with haste, never to return again, muttering "Screw these fools"

 

[mack341]

I wonder if that thread would have been created if the members there hadn't added 2+2 together and got 5 regarding the name of the winner and connections to members here [and of course nicola] if it is/was a scam choosing to clone spintee's name and half of playfords email address was guaranteed in a way to attract unwanted attention...

so if this stuart character had chosen to call himself 'jack 666' [email protected], would such a hullabaloo have followed, or is the youtube timings and accuracy of prediction more what this is about?

edit: eh up that email address I made up has come alive, I wonder if it is taken by anyone...

 

[goatwack]

The dubious timing of the winners' guesses, the nicked usernames from here + the Mystic Meg predictions a murky tale maketh

 

[spintee]

Somebody called Stuart opened a couple of weeks ago an account with your nickname on the other forum (TheGamblingCommunity) and took part in a comp Nicola held. The member who guessed the closest result would win 50% of her winnings from a bonus hunt. It turns out the prize was 6K and "spintee's" guess was just $3 off the correct amount. A miracle, signs up just two weeks ago, impersonates you and then posts an almost 100% accurate guess.

That "spintee" made a few posts that seemed to read like it is you, e.g. that your were active on CM some time ago but the writing style was totally different.

Nicola claims she does not know the Stuart/spintee impersonator and all has been legit. However, some questionable things have come up that quite a few members there and here think that this was a rigged contest and only held to gain subscribers for a new Youtube channel she is setting up.

Thank you my old friend. I can assure people that I have not even heard of the site in question.

I certainly have not entered any comps and I am not playford in disguise. Now if it turns out someone has been using forum names in vain then does the real spintee win the winnings

 

[Borgie]

I wonder if that thread would have been created if the members there hadn't added 2+2 together and got 5 regarding the name of the winner and connections to members here [and of course nicola] if it is/was a scam choosing to clone spintee's name and half of playfords email address was guaranteed in a way to attract unwanted attention...

so if this stuart character had chosen to call himself 'jack 666' [email protected], would such a hullaballo have followed, or is the youtube timings and accuracy of prediction more what this is about?

edit: eh up that email address I made up has come alive, I wonder if it is taken by anyone...

The fact that whoever the other spintee is used an account that was banned has to be relevant

 

[goatwack]

That sounds like something Spintee would say

 

[mack341]

The fact that whoever the other spintee is used an account that was banned has to be relevant

was the account banned, I thought that was the confusion regarding playford, that he'd been banned and yet this stuart character had set up an account using playfords email, which turned out to be incorrect, only the first part playford7 was the same, which anyone could do

 

[goatwack]

This is getting most confusing. So Spinford cloned Playtee to impersonate Stuart '4 kids' Little?

 

[mina1929]

I was going to watch Netflix too but this has taken up my whole day, very interesting and crazy at the same time. The truth always comes out sooner or later.

Welcome back @spintee nice to have you back

 

[Borgie]

was the account banned, I thought that was the confusion regarding playford, that he'd been banned and yet this stuart character had set up an account using playfords email, which turned out to be incorrect, only the first part playford7 was the same, which anyone could do

It was in the thread on the other forum but they have now removed most of the posts

 

[spintee]

I just had a look at the site. I searched spintee and found a few bits.

I would not speak like this

Than I saw this. Unsure if lies but I have not been to meister meet as yet. Should have been but things cropped up.

This is not me and certainly looks like someone using our names. Referring back to this site. Making me look bad by using spintee

 

[goatwack]

Hey! We've been turned into Div class! I thought my points were quite salient

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