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Discussion in 'Introduce yourself! (New Members)' started by m4gicscrfl, Sep 18, 2007.

    Sep 18, 2007
  1. m4gicscrfl

    m4gicscrfl Dormant account

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    Hi Casinomeister users!
    My name is m4gicscrfl, pronounced ma-jik-scruh-full. :oops: I like to play roulette and blackjack, but mostly roulette.

    When I play roulette, I play a lot of free spins by betting an equal amount on both red and black so I can see the pattern of the numbers coming up and can bet accordingly with an incrementing single dozen bet.

    ["In the single dozen bet version, the player uses a progressively incrementing stake list starting from the casino table minimum, to the table maximum. The aim here is to use a single dozen bet to win before the stake list ends. Many techniques are employed such as: betting on the same dozen to appear after two consecutive appearances, betting on the dozen that has appeared most in the last 15, 9, or 5 spins, betting on the dozen that, after a long absence of 7 or more spins, appears for the first time."]

    so my question is, will the casinos not like the free spin thing? will they not like the use of a single dozen bet system if i am able to win consistently with it? will they not pay me out if i am using this system and it works for me?:what:

    Thanks for reading all that...
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2007
  2. Sep 18, 2007
  3. BingoT

    BingoT Nurses love to give shots webmeister

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    Hey M4gicscrfl Welcome to the forum.

    Hey M4gicscrfl Welcome to the forum.


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  4. Sep 18, 2007
  5. LeJoueur

    LeJoueur Dormant account

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    What happens when ZERO comes in?

    BTW - hi.
     
  6. Sep 19, 2007
  7. m4gicscrfl

    m4gicscrfl Dormant account

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    When a zero comes in, either i lose I lose the two dollars that it took me to get the free spin, or i lose the current amount that i was at during the betting progression. :( but 0's in european style roulette don't come up as often as in the american version. so the way im betting makes more money than it loses by 0s coming up... its confusing...:confused:

    Hi everyone
     
  8. Sep 19, 2007
  9. lojo

    lojo Banned User - repetitive violations of <a href="ht

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    Hi magic skruffle :) I love roulette too! If you play at accredited casinos here and never use a bonus you simply can't go wrong if you win.

    You must register/login in order to see the link. be sure to read:thumbsup:
     
  10. Sep 19, 2007
  11. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account webmeister

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    :)hello and welcome to a great place:) im sure you will get the answers your looking for here on the forum.......laurie
     
  12. Sep 19, 2007
  13. aka23

    aka23 Dormant account

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    If you play with a bonus, betting on both red and black may cause problems. If you do not play with a bonus, you are unlikely to have problems. Although some might think you are abusing comp points or similar. You will lose over time with a system like that, unless the game is not random.
     
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  14. Sep 19, 2007
  15. bruceleo

    bruceleo Dormant account

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    :lolup: I quote everything! Bad idea, m4gicscrfl.
    Whoops, I'm sorry, welcome to this forum!:D
     
  16. Sep 20, 2007
  17. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

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    Like AKA said; no bonus - no problem!
    (Also would not be a problem at any reputable casino as long as you don't break any specific T&C's)

    You give your location as Cali, so why don't you just play Roulette Gold at MicroGaming casinos? Then you can spin with no bets on the table, won't lose when zero hits & definitely will not 'get into trouble' :thumbsup:

    PS: As 1,000's have learned before you, there is NO system to consistently beat roulette, period.
    But I hope you have fun trying!
    :cool:
     
  18. Sep 20, 2007
  19. 3Dice

    3Dice I-Gaming Industry Representative

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    Hey m4gicscrfl,

    Welcome to the forum. I know this is a futile attempt, but I cant help myself. Casino's are about luck, fun and entertainment. Walking up to any game thinking you have a system to make money is the only sure way to walk out a loser :( ...

    The system you sugest is a simple variation on the all-to-known martingale system, and the maths work like this. Disregard the betsize for a second .. it doesnt really matter anyway. For every spin, there are two possible outcomes. You win, or you lose. Lets figure out how much each happens and what it will earn and cost you ..
    (we'll assume a roulette where you can skip so black+red bets are not required - only dozen bets.)

    win : happens 12/37 times. you gain 2*stake. (it pays 3 times, what you put up + 2*stake)
    loose : happens 25/37 times. you loose your stake.

    expected result : win - lose = (expected_profit*odds_on_profit) - (expected_loss*odds_on_loss)
    = (2*stake)*(12/37) - stake*(25/37)
    = stake*(24/37) - stake*(25/37)
    = -stake*(1/37)

    that little minus sign in the end there says the following : repeat this long enough and you lose. You will lose 1/37th of your stake .. which is 2.7%, or exactly the house edge of a european roulette.

    Repeat this exercise with ANY bet on roulette .. and you will find exactly the same nr ..
    My advice ? When you play roulette - do it for the fun and excitement. Try to guess or feel whats coming up, its about luck - it cannot be reasoned or calculated.

    Play wisely ! :thumbsup:

    Enzo.
     
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  20. Sep 23, 2007
  21. Trollet

    Trollet Meister Member

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    Hi and Welcome m4gicscrfl!

    (((HUGS))) Trollet
     
  22. Sep 23, 2007
  23. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

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    Welcome to the forum ;)


    Sorry, but I have to stop you right there....

    Unless you're playing a non-random version of Roulette, then there aren't going to be any "patterns". You could spin as many times as you wish and think there's a pattern in it, but it just isn't there....

    For instance, I'm playing blackjack one day in atlantic city, and the dealer was starting to shuffle. I look over and notice that there's 14 straight red's that have came up on the roulette table right next to me, so I figure "black has to be coming out!" ... and quickly lost $25 on the next 5 spins because 5 more reds came out :D

    That's one of the reasons I hate roulette :p


    Good luck! :)
     
  24. Sep 24, 2007
  25. jod5413

    jod5413 Is That Better?

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    Welcome, M4gicscrfl :) Nice to meet you!!

    Jod
     

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