No - but I'll post yours if you PM them to me!
I don't know the details of the Clarkson case - was the money was taken out by someone who had previously paid him something?
So it was more like a sort of charge-back?
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Not at all. Just using the details, someone managed to get Clarkson to make an involuntary donation of £500 to charity by using the "paperless" direct debit system in his name, and with his details. This is supposedly even more "impossible" than someone managing to reverse a payment they have sent, something which the four main banks told Seventh777 was "impossible" when he asked about it during some research into just how operators like Betfair were able to REPEATEDLY employ this strategy to settle a dispute in their favour.
I believe one bank told Seventh that there was a "protocol" for when wages were paid in error that would allow for the EXCEPTIONAL reverse of the full payment, but that this could ONLY be done after the recipient had been informed, and able to contest the action on grounds of hardship.
It is this official line that caught Clarkson out, and now he knows what WE do here about how entirely possible such actions are, with the banks not being able to guarantee that it can't happen to any particular customer.
This is why having withdrawals paid into your main bank account is nowhere near "safe", as a problem can have knock on effects to "regular life" as well as gambling. At best, a separate bank account used ONLY for online gambling transactions should be used, and money transferred out the day a withdrawal hits so that a Betfair style recovery would be impossible.
In fact, in the long "happy hour" thread, there was evidence that some players had taken this precaution, and Betfair found the money wasn't there when they tried to take it back. They responded by sending debt recovery letters to affected players in order to scare them into paying back the money. I advised players to ignore these, as they were most probably bluffing about taking the matter to court, or even to debt recovery agents. Those players that held firm found this to be true, and Betfair backed down and eventually wrote off these "debts", although such players should NEVER put their money into Betfair products again, as I expect they will seize the opportunity to make a recovery.
As for this crop of RTG casinos, I started receiving the spam a couple of days after this thread started, and it just keeps on coming. It looks like they bought my email address from somewhere, as this is just TOO efficient to have been done by sending spam to randomly generated email addresses that may or may not even exist.
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