General Election 2024 Thread

Farage has had to declare his financial interests now that he's an MP, turns out he's doing pretty well for himself, no wonder he can't be arsed to do his actual job down in Clacton.

As the current gag goes, 'If you hate Nigel Farage and want to make sure you never meet or see him, move to Clacton'.

He's raking in £100K per month alone from GB News, so being a hate-mongering racist and fascist does at least seem to pay well.

Nothing like a millionaire man of the people to stick it to those pesky elites!

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That GB News contract seems more like a political donation with free beer!
I wouldn't be surprised if he was controlled opposition like Brand
 
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Once again UK. Be careful what you post. I read through his twitter and its pretty harmless stuff. A lot of stuff people say in here.

He had some extreme opinions but nothing too over the top from what I saw.

No prior criminal record. Sentence 3 years. Longer than some sex assaults in the UK.

What a lost country.
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This is the guy.

Turns out the police did not, in fact, fuck off :D

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Came out in court he was making £1400 per month from peddling his hate on Twitter.

He was also spreading the misinformation that the murderer was a Muslim.

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I'm sure there was some blm related trouble in the uk, and no doubt twitter posters encouraging it, but I don't recall reading about turbo courts and jail sentences.

What about those romany riots in leeds, they set a bus on fire, has that man had a turbo hearing and sentence?

Double standards, the mark of political corruption.

The left cheering on the jailing of folk from destitute, run down areas that typically vote labour over the years. A thousand jailed to date?
 
I'm sure there was some blm related trouble in the uk, and no doubt twitter posters encouraging it, but I don't recall reading about turbo courts and jail sentences.

What about those romany riots in leeds, they set a bus on fire, has that man had a turbo hearing and sentence?

Double standards, the mark of political corruption.

The left cheering on the jailing of folk from destitute, run down areas that typically vote labour over the years. A thousand jailed to date?

See now mack, you're so close to getting it.

The problem is poverty and inequality, ('destitute, run down areas', as you put it). That's the problem, not immigrants. That is Labour's challenge and what it needs to rise to.

Now at the moment, and given what Reeves is saying as Chancellor, I'm not entirely sure Starmer and pals really get it, or that they have the fight in them for what needs to be done to lift up those who are struggling in the UK - but that's down to the government, again, not immigrants.

And if Labour fail, then I fear for what comes next.

Also, I've had a look down that guy's Twitter timeline and is non-stop racism, hatred and incitement, and a whole lot more as well.
 
See now mack, you're so close to getting it.

The problem is poverty and inequality, ('destitute, run down areas', as you put it). That's the problem, not immigrants. That is Labour's challenge and what it needs to rise to.

Now at the moment, and given what Reeves is saying as Chancellor, I'm not entirely sure Starmer and pals really get it, or that they have the fight in them for what needs to be done to lift up those who are struggling in the UK - but that's down to the government, again, not immigrants.

And if Labour fail, then I fear for what comes next.

Also, I've had a look down that guy's Twitter timeline and is non-stop racism, hatred and incitement, and a whole lot more as well.
Of course it's not immigrants and a culture issue! I mean the roma tradition of marrying 13-year old girls off, borrowing children to claim benefits for them, alcoholism, theft, selling kids and attracting (not unreasonably) the attention of social services of course is in NO WAY linked to an immigration issue!

Under the EU's own rules, people like that can be deported. Maybe if the UK used those laws when in the EU it could have swung the Brexit vote a few points the other way and we wouldn't have left! So it could be argued that spineless soft-touch Britain was the reason the remoaners lost the referendum.

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France did it, Italy has and Spain has to a lesser extent. Because, the freedom of movement under EU law also gives countries the right to remove EU persons not seeking work, on permanent benefits or involved in crime.
 
See now mack, you're so close to getting it.

The problem is poverty and inequality, ('destitute, run down areas', as you put it). That's the problem, not immigrants. That is Labour's challenge and what it needs to rise to.

Now at the moment, and given what Reeves is saying as Chancellor, I'm not entirely sure Starmer and pals really get it, or that they have the fight in them for what needs to be done to lift up those who are struggling in the UK - but that's down to the government, again, not immigrants.

And if Labour fail, then I fear for what comes next.

Also, I've had a look down that guy's Twitter timeline and is non-stop racism, hatred and incitement, and a whole lot more as well.

He was making £1400 a month of twitter? On that basis I don't include him in the 'on their uppers group'.

As mentioned previously I did have a flirtation with the left, where I thought they might have some solutions but that was way before things like PC and immigration became their numero uno priority.

Immigrants may not be the cause of all the problems, but they certainly aren't helping and definitely bring problems.

You'd/we'd be better off helping them stay in their own countries with trade improvement and development help.
 
Of course it's not immigrants and a culture issue! I mean the roma tradition of marrying 13-year old girls off, borrowing children to claim benefits for them, alcoholism, theft, selling kids and attracting (not unreasonably) the attention of social services of course is in NO WAY linked to an immigration issue!

Under the EU's own rules, people like that can be deported. Maybe if the UK used those laws when in the EU it could have swung the Brexit vote a few points the other way and we wouldn't have left! So it could be argued that spineless soft-touch Britain was the reason the remoaners lost the referendum.

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France did it, Italy has and Spain has to a lesser extent. Because, the freedom of movement under EU law also gives countries the right to remove EU persons not seeking work, on permanent benefits or involved in crime.

Roma people make up 0.4% of the UK population.

Let's say literally every single one of them was deported, without exception, no claims to remain, no test for law-breaking, nothing - they're just all packed off.

How many perceived problems do you think you've just fixed?

Since the start of Covid alone, the UK government has effectively printed SEVEN HUNDRED BILLION POUNDS and given it to the rich, and they are using that money to fuck everyone. They're not even necessarily doing it to be deliberately evil or anything, it's just what the rich do when they get money, they buy more stuff, and in doing so they price everyone else out of the essentials of life. (Housing being the most obvious example.)

But hey, it could also all be the fault of the Roma, I guess.
 
He may not be a CM member, but he's here in spirit 😄

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For some reason, Bernard shaw's Pygmalion has come to me a day or so ago, the part where the professor is talking to eliza's dad.

The indigenous working class brit is now the undeserving poor, the immigrants no matter what they do are the deserving poor.

Mass immigration, the fors and against, has divided the public, on a rich vs poor basis it works as a divide and conquer strategy for the establishment.

Labour will not secure a bigger cake to share out, therefore mass immigration will have an austerity effect for the indigenous lower classes in our post industrial part of the world. This is putting aside the other negatives.
 
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This is the guy.

Turns out the police did not, in fact, fuck off :D

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Came out in court he was making £1400 per month from peddling his hate on Twitter.

He was also spreading the misinformation that the murderer was a Muslim.

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Whats the point of this post? I literally posted the same thing lol.

3 years for this? You are ok with that? lol go back to screaming at the sky with your wife while she plays video games :)
 
Of course it's not immigrants and a culture issue! I mean the roma tradition of marrying 13-year old girls off, borrowing children to claim benefits for them, alcoholism, theft, selling kids and attracting (not unreasonably) the attention of social services of course is in NO WAY linked to an immigration issue!

Under the EU's own rules, people like that can be deported. Maybe if the UK used those laws when in the EU it could have swung the Brexit vote a few points the other way and we wouldn't have left! So it could be argued that spineless soft-touch Britain was the reason the remoaners lost the referendum.

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France did it, Italy has and Spain has to a lesser extent. Because, the freedom of movement under EU law also gives countries the right to remove EU persons not seeking work, on permanent benefits or involved in crime.
Excuse me. Please dont post stuff like this. This is highly offensive to some. It was not said on the BBC and you are not allowed to post facts. Only emotional bias posting allowed. Thank you.
 
As usual in Belfast the paramilitaries have brought their “soldiers” out on the streets in the name of protest.
I wonder if these idiots will ever wake up to the fact that it’s immigrants that are supporting the NHS and care services , it’s immigrants that are paying taxes to help support infrastructure and also to pay their benefits.
Belfast and Northern Ireland in general has never had a problem with illegal immigrants , asylum seekers etc but these bully boys haven’t the sense to work out that if you take the immigrants out of our society our already teetering health service will probably be irrevocably damaged.
As for housing there have been problems here for years but that’s due to under investment by the Stormont Assembly coupled with Sinn Fein walk out for over 3 years followed by the DUP collapsing the assembly for 2 years.
This year we have the Housing Executive planning to build 400 houses , which is a drop in the ocean compared to what is required.
Belfast /Northern Ireland has never had a problem illegal immigrants asylum seekers yet we have 4300 illegals housed in hotels in Belfast alone.
 
I'm sure there was some blm related trouble in the uk, and no doubt twitter posters encouraging it, but I don't recall reading about turbo courts and jail sentences.

What about those romany riots in leeds, they set a bus on fire, has that man had a turbo hearing and sentence?

Double standards, the mark of political corruption.

The left cheering on the jailing of folk from destitute, run down areas that typically vote labour over the years. A thousand jailed to date?
There is so much speculation on why this is happening. Does anyone really know? Is it fear from the left they will upset the immigrant voters they brought in? it has to be right? Their plan worldwide has seemed to allow immigrants in because they will vote for "us"

Now they see the damage they are doing, they cant do anything about it.

This is honestly the only conclusion I can come to. Surely they dont hate their own country folk? Surely they dont want to see and approve of their country falling apart.

They are rich elitist, they dont live, shop or engage with them so as long as they stay in power, what do they care?

This is the only sensible solution I have come across.

Oh and to make sure to use the media as their tool to actually convice their own people that they are bad.

I think it's sad because it gives immigrants a bad rap and now some really good decent ones are looked at as scum. Some of the nicest people at my work are immigrants. Guess what? Even they are mad at what's going in. It isnt normal. It's just not how you do things.

I think what shocks me the most out of all of it is how many people have actually been convinced that their own country people are the bad ones.
 
As usual in Belfast the paramilitaries have brought their “soldiers” out on the streets in the name of protest.
I wonder if these idiots will ever wake up to the fact that it’s immigrants that are supporting the NHS and care services , it’s immigrants that are paying taxes to help support infrastructure and also to pay their benefits.
Belfast and Northern Ireland in general has never had a problem with illegal immigrants , asylum seekers etc but these bully boys haven’t the sense to work out that if you take the immigrants out of our society our already teetering health service will probably be irrevocably damaged.
As for housing there have been problems here for years but that’s due to under investment by the Stormont Assembly coupled with Sinn Fein walk out for over 3 years followed by the DUP collapsing the assembly for 2 years.
This year we have the Housing Executive planning to build 400 houses , which is a drop in the ocean compared to what is required.
You dont get it. You are being short sighted.

You do not realize that healthcare systems, housing, programs to help the destitute, sewer systems, water treatment plants, social housing, jails, mental asylums, roads, parks and services, dental and basically everything inside of a country is built to tend to a certain amount of people.

When you migrate hundreds of thousands and/or millions you overwhelm everything. Illegal immigrants on average do not contribute to the need of doctors, nurses, dentists, police etc.

Then if you want to get into cultural differences we can. That creates tensions = a rise in crime, a need for bigger jails, more police officers, more judges and lawyers.

That is why it has always supposed to be controlled immigration. So the system doesnt get overwhelmed. So they bring in people needed in specific areas to keep a country running properly and to give some people a chance at a better life.

Why are you saying it's never been an issue? When there is absolute fact it is. People losing their building to house hundreds, thousands of illegals. Hotels being closed down to house them (taking money away from the economy and tourism)

I mean, there are literal articles where they quote businesses, doctors etc saying there is a large problem

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Way too many emotional people not using common sense
 
Belfast /Northern Ireland has never had a problem illegal immigrants asylum seekers yet we have 4300 illegals housed in hotels in Belfast alone.
Not according to official government figures that give a total of less than 3,000 asylum seekers getting assistance in Northern Ireland.
Where are you getting the 4,300 figure for Belfast alone?
 
They say that kiddie fiddlers often put themselves at the heart of kiddies lives.

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Yeah I have seen a lot of this actually. Im not really sure why politicians are supporting this stuff so heavily when we come to find out alot of them are pedo's

I cant even buy subway these days without wondering if Jared is hiding in some bushes doing some scouting!
 
Yeah I have seen a lot of this actually. Im not really sure why politicians are supporting this stuff so heavily when we come to find out alot of them are pedo's

I cant even buy subway these days without wondering if Jared is hiding in some bushes doing some scouting!
And subway is too expensive now and they changed the menu hence why they are going bankrupt by the sounds of it. Old subway was yummy!
 
And subway is too expensive now and they changed the menu hence why they are going bankrupt by the sounds of it. Old subway was yummy!
We have a subway right in our hospital. I used to eat it once or twice a week. I totally stopped. I dont like it and its absolutely crazy expensive.

Me and one of my co-workers were just talking about that the other day. Some of these subs were $5 not long ago and are now $12 after tax. No thanks.
 
There is so much speculation on why this is happening. Does anyone really know? Is it fear from the left they will upset the immigrant voters they brought in? it has to be right? Their plan worldwide has seemed to allow immigrants in because they will vote for "us"

Now they see the damage they are doing, they cant do anything about it.

This is honestly the only conclusion I can come to. Surely they dont hate their own country folk? Surely they dont want to see and approve of their country falling apart.

They are rich elitist, they dont live, shop or engage with them so as long as they stay in power, what do they care?

This is the only sensible solution I have come across.

Oh and to make sure to use the media as their tool to actually convice their own people that they are bad.

I think it's sad because it gives immigrants a bad rap and now some really good decent ones are looked at as scum. Some of the nicest people at my work are immigrants. Guess what? Even they are mad at what's going in. It isnt normal. It's just not how you do things.

I think what shocks me the most out of all of it is how many people have actually been convinced that their own country people are the bad ones.

I used to think it's about the votes, especially in the US situation. Slightly different with the uk as it's not via a land border, and conservatives have let in a million or two that won't vote for them.

In life I try to take people on an individual basis, when you meet folk in various situations. It's not easy, and an extra stress to navigate obvious barriers and differences.

But that's just the personal micro situation, once you extend it to the macro and involve millions, you're bringing into society and encountering all manner of additional problems and drawbacks.

All the liberals here and elsewhere, if they had to choose a nurse or carer for elderly parents, or take into account the staff make-up of the care home, are they really going to pay no attention to background, I don't believe them if they say yes.

I tend to think now it must be either a divide and conquer strategy, or perhaps propping up the gdp/growth model we're obsessed with.

The economic reason doesn't really explain canada though, which afaik is extremely rich with oil reserves, top 5 in the world.

More mass immigration definitely makes things worse for the pre-existing foreign background people that may have been here since the 80s, it's making the whole situation precarious and volatile, can't see it getting better either.
 
Such complete and utter nonsense. She says bomb the mosques with the adults inside them, the only people who wouldnt be disgusted by that are people with an IQ less than their shoe size.
I'm no fan of judges or some of the bizarre decisions they come to, but I think use of the word 'should' needs defending. The English law is based on the principle of 'reasonableness'. If someone attacks you, then it is reasonable to defend yourself, but the response must be 'reasonable' given the circumstances. There is no open invitation to use extreme violence. So given the case under discussion would a reasonable person be horrified at the threats and violence? The judge clearly thought so and so used 'should' ie if you were a reasonable person you should have been horrified.
 
Roma people make up 0.4% of the UK population.

Let's say literally every single one of them was deported, without exception, no claims to remain, no test for law-breaking, nothing - they're just all packed off.

How many perceived problems do you think you've just fixed?

Since the start of Covid alone, the UK government has effectively printed SEVEN HUNDRED BILLION POUNDS and given it to the rich, and they are using that money to fuck everyone. They're not even necessarily doing it to be deliberately evil or anything, it's just what the rich do when they get money, they buy more stuff, and in doing so they price everyone else out of the essentials of life. (Housing being the most obvious example.)

But hey, it could also all be the fault of the Roma, I guess.
Err....yes, it was in this case. I was quoting your post where you responded to another mentioning the disorder in Leeds, which was as I said above. What Covid debt has to do with that I do not know, and I don't think you do either unless it's more 'sky shouting' from you?
 
Err....yes, it was in this case. I was quoting your post where you responded to another mentioning the disorder in Leeds, which was as I said above. What Covid debt has to do with that I do not know, and I don't think you do either unless it's more 'sky shouting' from you?

Because it's the most important thing going on, and the single biggest explainer for the direction the UK has been going in for decades. New Labour did good work on lifting people up (the stats on poverty back that up), on the NHS, education and many other 'healthy society' indicators but failed on others.

Since the financial crash in 2008, and Covid in 2020, we have seen two massive transfers of wealth from your average folks into the hands of the rich and ultra-rich, loaded onto the government in the form of debt, and onto your traditional middle and working classes as taxes.

These are where the tensions and cracks in the fabric of society and flashpoints are coming from, and the rich love to do nothing more than point to the 'others' as the cause of it all (whoever happens to be flavour of the day), whilst trousering big fat stacks of cash and explaining to us all why it would terribly destructive if they were ever asked to pay higher taxes.

Labour have five years to start to get on top of this shit, and given what we've heard from Reeves so far, I don't think they're up to it.
 
Anyone see the marine who went undercover in Calais?

He reckons 99% of those trying to get across are military-aged males.

I never really had a problem with immigration. Always been of the mindset that we are all worldly people. But I guess if prisons are full, everyone's in debt, healthcare is stretched and suffering, and cost of living is on the rise, there is some housework to be done before inviting someone across the threshold.
 
Anyone see the marine who went undercover in Calais?

He reckons 99% of those trying to get across are military-aged males.

I never really had a problem with immigration. Always been of the mindset that we are all worldly people. But I guess if prisons are full, everyone's in debt, healthcare is stretched and suffering, and cost of living is on the rise, there is some housework to be done before inviting someone across the threshold.
Maggie Thatcher said the a government should treat our finances in the same way we treat our own households. If we got it then spend it and even share it. If we don't then tighten our belts. It seems like common sense to me.
 
The uniparties are going to play good cop bad cop while taking away your ability to drive and building these 1.5 million homes into 15 minute cities just as their overlords have told them too.
Car shares with your neighbours will be next then carbon credit scores.
All in dribs and drabs.

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Maggie Thatcher said the a government should treat our finances in the same way we treat our own households. If we got it then spend it and even share it. If we don't then tighten our belts. It seems like common sense to me.
I believe she once said "Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money."

That is why it and its big brother marxism/communism are doomed to failure simply by way of human nature before we even get to affordability.

The only way it's affordable is if mother nature is the benefactor. Mother Earth can afford it for a time if your country is blessed with a small population and huge natural resources, Norway and to some extent Sweden being examples. Otherwise it becomes the great leveller and reduces all but a few to penury. An example proven over and over by history yet sky-shouters and idealogues still even today, like flat earthers, espouse their support for the idiocy.
 
I believe she once said "Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money."

That is why it and its big brother marxism/communism are doomed to failure simply by way of human nature before we even get to affordability.

The only way it's affordable is if mother nature is the benefactor. Mother Earth can afford it for a time if your country is blessed with a small population and huge natural resources, Norway and to some extent Sweden being examples. Otherwise it becomes the great leveller and reduces all but a few to penury. An example proven over and over by history yet sky-shouters and idealogues still even today, like flat earthers, espouse their support for the idiocy.

You've seen what happened to the UK national debt under fourteen years of Tory rule, right?

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I believe she once said "Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money."

That is why it and its big brother marxism/communism are doomed to failure simply by way of human nature before we even get to affordability.

The only way it's affordable is if mother nature is the benefactor. Mother Earth can afford it for a time if your country is blessed with a small population and huge natural resources, Norway and to some extent Sweden being examples. Otherwise it becomes the great leveller and reduces all but a few to penury. An example proven over and over by history yet sky-shouters and idealogues still even today, like flat earthers, espouse their support for the idiocy.
Musk Suggested to Trump to have a spending committee installed. Goverment waste is a massive issue. It's not their hard earned money, it's yours. So they dont care how they spend it.

They left billions behind in Afghan.

What I find hilarious is that this site posted totally bias nonsense and then called it fact check.

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Funny, they say it was all inoperable and the taliban didnt know how to drive it. Just last week they had a massive parade with hundreds of the vehicles and were driving it all perfectly fine.
 
An excellent piece on the riots and immigration, and how Starmer is missing the moment to tell the truth.

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Alright, so can this journalist or yourself give us some examples of european/western countries where they've done just what he asked, and where mass immigration is working fine with no ill effects?

If he/you can't it's not just a starmer/uk problem. Which would indicate a pattern.
 
The classic false, dishonest and disingenuous diversion of the woke fraternity. "The peaceful merging and blending and cross-pollination of groups throughout our history..."

Ermmmm....nope. Totally, untrue and unsubstantiated bollocks swallowed unquestioningly by the uneducated, ill-informed and sky-shouters along with BBC acolytes. A trope thrown out in a pathetic attempt to justify third-world colonization and its many negative issues.

The facts - the first major influx after the Celt migration was Roman, from EUROPE! Yes, that was peaceful, 8,000 of them massacred by Bodicea and much bloodshed before occupational peace was established.

The Saxon conquest, from EUROPE again using coercion and violence to some extent before peace was established.

The Viking occupation, from EUROPE, much conflict, bloodshed, Danegeld taxation before the next Norman invasion from EUROPE in 1066.

Then peace in our islands consisting by then solely of NORTH EUROPEANS with a few civil conflicts in between.

We had Dutch dyke builders settle in the east of England from EUROPE in some numbers in the middle ages.

We had French Hugenots settle, estimated over 100,000 in the 1700's from EUROPE.

We had thousands of Germans settle during the industrial revolution from EUROPE.

The first major disturbances were after thousands of Jewish migrants in the late 18 and early 1900's, some from Europe, some from further afield.

So to even attempt to conflate mass African, Middle Eastern and Asian/Islamic immigration (legal and illegal) in its millions with previous history is totally unbalanced, dishonest and is factually wrong on every count. It bears no resemblance or similarity to the history of the previous millennia up until WWII in these islands. But the nonsensical trope is continually spat out by halfwit liberals who either don't know, or more likely are in denial about our histroy as it's a bit 'inconvenient' to their virtue signalling tripe.
 
I see twitter going crazy saying the UK is letting out 5500 criminals out early in order to jail protestors?

Truth to this or clickbait for engagement?

The realllll problem with Twitter is people are posting all types of crap for engagement. I dont like it.

Girls will ask stupid questions like "if you had a date with me where would you take me"

People posting fake stuff on both sides for engagement only. I block so many people its crazy.
 
I see twitter going crazy saying the UK is letting out 5500 criminals out early in order to jail protestors?

Truth to this or clickbait for engagement?

The realllll problem with Twitter is people are posting all types of crap for engagement. I dont like it.

Girls will ask stupid questions like "if you had a date with me where would you take me"

People posting fake stuff on both sides for engagement only. I block so many people its crazy.
No it is real. Rapists and serious criminals who serve 40% of their time are being released to make way for hurty feelings and hurty words.
 
No it is real. Rapists and serious criminals who serve 40% of their time are being released to make way for hurty feelings and hurty words.
Can you link to where it states that? I must be wrong with my understanding that Cat A prisoners were excluded and it was only prisoners who had an original sentence of 12 months or less.
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Proving that its not Cat A prisoners, he was sentenced for Manslaughter. Obviously they have widened the net on this, but still not rapists or Cat A prisoners.

That's all right then, as long as they're not category A machete users they can be freed early to make room for thought crime folk.

By the way, do you have any clips of serious crime from those 'riots', when we're talking about 1,000 or more going through the courts there should be plenty.
 
Its just a slap, guys. you've been tango'd!
it's just a headlock guys!
its just a punch, guys!
it's just a stab, guys!
it's just manslaughter, guys!
it's, it's a fucking clown world, guys!
its just a prank, bro.
Turns out staging a fake robbery is not a good idea for a prank, who could have known.



Must say i prefer the 'classic' variety of pranks like the ones done by Just For Laughs.

 
But i live in the Northern part of Sweden so its bro for me bruv.
Watched some more Just for laughs pranks and some of them seem to be a bit sinister, like this collapsing wall prank.

'You almost killed someone, haha just kidding'

The sound effects that are added are also something else, top notch.

 

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