General Election 2019 thread

Whilst I voted to remain, this is what happens when you treat an electorate like a shower of fucking chumps, telling them (in a populist tone), ’vote and we will stop it’

Swinson is basically a pro remain Tory who’d sell her granny for a Bonanza bonus and she’s now got teeth marks on her arse.

To be fair. She does have a nice rack to go with that arse.
 
It seems like Jeremy is on his bike

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Thank goodness sanity prevails. People, even Tory hating people, wont vote for a terrorist supporting party who as a side dish will bankrupt them in the process.

Labour need to either vanish and let the Libdems be the main opposition party, or completely change course to the centre to survive.
 
Funny how 'shocked' and 'surprised' half the political figures are at the results when questioned. Shows how utterly out of touch they are to reading the current climate :laugh:

They think that by canvassing a few streets as pseudo-Jehovah's Witnesses, and chatting to Bethel over a cup of tea in front of the cameras, that they've somehow succeeded in convincing us that they're looking out for our interests :thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
Well, congrats are on order that for once you actually managed to decisively vote for something. :D

Christmas is definitely coming!
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Shouldn't forget though that the Tories had the majority when they started the BREXIT process and managed to screw it up gloriously over a period of 3 years. What convinces you that they will do a better job this time?

Oh, I forgot, Boris promised to die in a ditch. Now, we can't let that happen, so out the door it is, pretty please! :rolleyes:
 
Bojo's secured a huge majority...no excuses now not to get a good brexit deal delivered :rolleyes:


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Must be a true quote from Monnet since there's a picture of it :rolleyes:

BTW: I believe the origin for that quote is a book by Vaclav Klaus. In which he didn't source it either :rolleyes:
 
So he didn't want a federal union?

It is, of course, a wrong quote and out of context, mainly so gullible people can vent against the EU as in: "I told you so..." :rolleyes:

Monnet's doing was all concentrated on making sure that France recovers asap after WWII as it was one of the most ravaged countries in the war. Plus, it was a common goal of virtually all European countries that another war must be avoided.

In his view, the union was the way to go. And if we are all honest, it worked nicely over the last 70 odd years and the countries prospered rather well. Remember that between WWI and WWII were only about 25 years.

Always find it funny when such quotes appear, yet nobody cares to read more about it to see the context. :rolleyes:
 
How can we know 67 years later if the quote has any basis of truth or not, it's accepted monnet was a federalist which is circumstantial evidence; and what it describes seems to be happening, the EU has been taking " successive steps" towards federalisation.

The only possible difference I can see argued to that quote, is that this federalisation has been done with the 'people' fully understanding and consenting to it.
 
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How can we know 67 years later if the quote has any basis of truth or not, it's accepted monnet was a federalist which is circumstantial evidence; and what it describes seems to be happening, the EU has been taking " successive steps" towards federalisation.

Don't really care how you or anyone else names it as long as there is peace.

I experienced the development first hand during my years of heavy travelling for work. And all changes made it easier to go from A to B. Plus, no need to change currency, no need for a visa, etc etc. Moving house from Germany to the UK, then France, then Spain and back to Germany was effortless and all that because of the "damned EU" :D

I remember that at the beginning (1999) a minute from Germany to the UK on my mobile was GBP5 - 10. That is just one simple example.

As long as every country has a voice and veto power (as it is now in the EU parliament) then I don't see any problem whatsoever. Peace is much more important than a few narrowminded nationalist "wet dreams". :rolleyes:
 
I think the veto power is going to be weakened so more votes can be forced through by majority.

Anyway, I don't want to take away from the celebrations of last night, there's no point discussing the EU.

BTW that's five of these :rolleyes: in 3 posts + a 'crap' ...You 'liberal' guys do me in sometimes, so consistently impolite and personal... I got to hold myself back here believe me :mad:
 
I think the veto power is going to be weakened so more votes can be forced through by majority.

Anyway, I don't want to take away from the celebrations of last night, there's no point discussing the EU.

BTW that's five of these :rolleyes: in 3 posts + a 'crap' ...You 'liberal' guys do me in sometimes, so consistently impolite and personal... I got to hold myself back here believe me :mad:

Nothing personal Mack. But if you post crap, you're gonna get the eyes a rollin' :rolleyes: :D
 
Nothing personal Mack. But if you post crap, you're gonna get the eyes a rollin' :rolleyes: :D

I feel better for getting that out of my system now, thank you for the 'haha' which at least gave me a chuckle.

[You guys have been members here for donkey's years so I will take that into account for the replies, and life's too short to blow a fuse over this kind of stuff]

Anyway arguing with Harry et al in the trump/nk thread is enough aggro for me, I'm not about to open a second front here :eek: :laugh:
 
Sunderland Central Brexit again stop Conservative taking this seat, 9,997 reduced to 2,964

No, they didn't - it's pretty clear that 99% of the Brexit Party votes came from leave-supporting Labour voters who would never, ever bring themselves to vote Conservative. If you look at many other traditional Labour seats that went blue, it's obvious that Farage did the Cons. a favour by removing sufficient Labour votes to enable them to win, as those voters would have never voted Con. in a million years.
 
Well, congrats are on order that for once you actually managed to decisively vote for something. :D

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Shouldn't forget though that the Tories had the majority when they started the BREXIT process and managed to screw it up gloriously over a period of 3 years. What convinces you that they will do a better job this time?

Oh, I forgot, Boris promised to die in a ditch. Now, we can't let that happen, so out the door it is, pretty please! :rolleyes:

BS Harry - they had a small majority, but in terms of Brexit not a workable majority due to malcontents like Ken Clarke and Soubry. Boris purged the traitors and now has an 80-seat majority (effectively a 96 majority as the Sinn Fein terrorists won't sit in Westminster and the speaker doesn't vote.)

So now we have an effective government.

It's also good news for the Labour seats who went over to them, as Boris is really going to have to work at retaining at least half of them next time round so if he's got any political brain, you'll see some of the wealth and investment redirected to the north and other old industrial areas and screw London.

Labour voters in the safe NE seats for example were always loyal to the party who in turn did bugger-all for them. They never traditionally expect the Cons to do anything either, so in terms of Brexit had nothing to lose by going blue. As I said above, they could be in for an ironic and pleasant surprise if Boris wants to keep some of them.

The bottom line is many of those losers in the Labour party are still deluded and in denial if you listen to them whining about the worst Labour result since 1935 - they conveniently hide behind the Brexit cloak as the reason for their abject failure and refuse to learn from history that Britain is a country that never has and never will elect an extreme Neo-Marxist socialist government, especially under a lunatic like Corbyn, the posh-boy radical student who never grew up and has never done a real day's work in his life.

In his Guardianista tower he has never understood the British people, he arrogantly thinks because a few stoned teenagers sung his name at Glastonbury that he is some kind of prophet and Mr. Cool. Perhaps he should've listened to some of the more accomplished old rock stars like Roger Daltry and Noel Gallagher who both called him a 'Fuckin' Commie'.

Corbyn is the 1668/JAZ of politicians, no better than other posh-boy traitors like Blunt, Burgess and MacClean. He's handed the Cons. such a majority they would have to fail badly to avoid winning the next election in 4 or 5 years.

If the Labour party wants to have a chance of winning again, they need to purge the far left Trots and Marxists and SWP types from their party, beginning with Corbyn, Abbott and McDonnell.
 
BS Harry - they had a small majority, but in terms of Brexit not a workable majority due to malcontents like Ken Clarke and Soubry. Boris purged the traitors and now has an 80-seat majority (effectively a 96 majority as the Sinn Fein terrorists won't sit in Westminster and the speaker doesn't vote.)

So now we have an effective government.

It's also good news for the Labour seats who went over to them, as Boris is really going to have to work at retaining at least half of them next time round so if he's got any political brain, you'll see some of the wealth and investment redirected to the north and other old industrial areas and screw London.

Labour voters in the safe NE seats for example were always loyal to the party who in turn did bugger-all for them. They never traditionally expect the Cons to do anything either, so in terms of Brexit had nothing to lose by going blue. As I said above, they could be in for an ironic and pleasant surprise if Boris wants to keep some of them.

The bottom line is many of those losers in the Labour party are still deluded and in denial if you listen to them whining about the worst Labour result since 1935 - they conveniently hide behind the Brexit cloak as the reason for their abject failure and refuse to learn from history that Britain is a country that never has and never will elect an extreme Neo-Marxist socialist government, especially under a lunatic like Corbyn, the posh-boy radical student who never grew up and has never done a real day's work in his life.

In his Guardianista tower he has never understood the British people, he arrogantly thinks because a few stoned teenagers sung his name at Glastonbury that he is some kind of prophet and Mr. Cool. Perhaps he should've listened to some of the more accomplished old rock stars like Roger Daltry and Noel Gallagher who both called him a 'Fuckin' Commie'.

Corbyn is the 1668/JAZ of politicians, no better than other posh-boy traitors like Blunt, Burgess and MacClean. He's handed the Cons. such a majority they would have to fail badly to avoid winning the next election in 4 or 5 years.

If the Labour party wants to have a chance of winning again, they need to purge the far left Trots and Marxists and SWP types from their party, beginning with Corbyn, Abbott and McDonnell.

I could call that BS too because if I remember well, the Conservatives had a comfortable majority but decided to squander it away in snap elections.
 
Jo Swinson giving her dramatic farewell speech, about how we should all hug each other and be better human beings......whilst getting a few Boris digs in

But having watched her speak a good couple of minutes now, a future in children's television beckons
 
Noticed that Labour'll be seeking a new frontman soon after THAT showing, then remembered how I'd seen Lord Buckethead 10 minutes earlier

I'd vote for him :laugh:

I hope that mcdonnell buggers off too, he's only 2 years younger than corbum but he seems a lot younger, more aggressive and shadowy too

But as long as this bloke doesn't become the new leader I'm not minded, they ought to go female for a change.

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I'd vote for him :laugh:

I hope that mcdonnell buggers off too, he's only 2 years younger than corbum but he seems younger, more aggressive and shadowy too

But as long as this bloke doesn't become the new leader I'm not minded, they ought to go female for a change.

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That guy'd be a great representative of the people, he looks super-t'Northern and has even got the cap
 
Jo Swinson giving her dramatic farewell speech, about how we should all hug each other and be better human beings......whilst getting a few Boris digs in

But having watched her speak a good couple of minutes now, a future in children's television beckons
She could be the new Eadie Macreadie in Balamory?
 
They had the majority by a larger margin after the 2015 election and squandered it away bit by bit. And yes, that was a comfortable majority since you have quite a split parliament with a relatively large number of parties.

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You clearly don't know the UK Parliament and it's political machinations. The opposition will instinctively vote together (as indeed we saw with the Brexit scenario) and with just a handful of incumbent governing party MP's abstaining, let alone voting against, they will try and defeat the government for their own political ends at every opportunity. With defections and by-elections a small majority is very quickly whittled down. Assuming St. Ives and Lands End (the outstanding seat) is Conservative, then the majority of 80 that will create, I guarantee you will be substantially lower by the time the next election comes around.

Brexit was help up for years simply because the Government didn't have the numbers. It has now.
 

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