Don’t ask a question where you know the answerHow can it be random for the users but not the industry?
Don’t ask a question where you know the answerHow can it be random for the users but not the industry?
Easy way to avoid not comfortable questions...Well Rizk has the kind of support that automatically assumes you have a gambling issue when you talk to them, so i'm not too surprised.
How can it be random for the users but not the industry?
Don’t ask a question where you know the answer
Please all, don't try this method posted at the top if this rant. It will likely lose you all your money very quickly and sounds more like the behaviour of an addict than anything else.
Questioning the value of Betsoft's RNG audit
Betsoft claims that the random number generator used for its games is tested and audited by a Malta based organisation Quinel M Ltd. Its last published RNG certificate (attached to the bottom of this article) is dated February 2015. However the possibility of either nefarious intent or programmatic incompetence cannot be ruled out by this certificate. In simple terms, a game asks for a random number from the RNG, then maps that number to a result - a four symbol win or a losing spin for example. There is nothing stopping either a buggy or crooked game from ignoring the generated number and asking for a new one if it doesn't like the result, so for an audit to be effective it must test the simulated results of an actual game, not just the numbers generated by a RNG. On this point we found section P of the Quinel RNG report to be quite salient:
P) Additional information (RGR Part VI, 26.i) The RNG subject to testing (test item J14120011 - I001) was tested independently without any game connected; no integrations between RNG and games were tested.
So there you have it: this audit does not test the "end to end" interaction between Betsoft's games and the RNG to ensure that the results that a player actually sees are truly random. The RNG can be a correctly programmed piece of logic that always returns a random number, but this says nothing about the fairness of the operation of the games that use the RNG. The audit is practically worthless.
Do you have a link to that report, looks interesting...Lol Ok. Whatever Trancemonkey.
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Interesting case.
So it is quite possible, to have a game comply within the RNG and all that, but give the player a complete different result then what you might expect. Perhaps this might explain the variance and difference in between different casino's, one being more violent in relation of taking your money then the other.
So this is the acceptable side of randomness?Link was in the post, but i think you found it already looking by your edit. Well appearantly it's possible. And perhaps this might explain why i'm sometimes facing a far more difficult game in general while they all advertise with an avg of 96.x% of RTP. Could it be? Are there casino's in Malta that could apply this and still get away with it legally?
I love genuine randomness! Shit thats out of the blue.
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I enjoyed it more when he could predict the outcome of extra chilli.So this is the acceptable side of randomness?
It seems to me that you only want to have a randomness that lets you win on every spin rather than real randomness which can give you 2 winning spins in a row or 10 losing spins in a row.
Remember when you are playing a slot the house will always win, otherwise all casinos would be out of business.
So this is the acceptable side of randomness?
It seems to me that you only want to have a randomness that lets you win on every spin rather than real randomness which can give you 2 winning spins in a row or 10 losing spins in a row.
Remember when you are playing a slot the house will always win, otherwise all casinos would be out of business.
There is no link in the post, I just read your quote againLink was in the post, but i think you found it already looking by your edit. Well appearantly it's possible. And perhaps this might explain why i'm sometimes facing a far more difficult game in general while they all advertise with an avg of 96.x% of RTP. Could it be? Are there casino's in Malta that could apply this and still get away with it legally?
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Do you have a link to that report, looks interesting...
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But why would you expect this when you are playing something that you know has the odds in the house favour? How can you expect to be ahead unless the slot is set at over 100% RTP?its just that, if your used to playing landbased, you kind of can expect either to play even or get ahead at some point.
Most likely not, because I will never hammen on at high stakes. If my goal was big profits I would invest, not bloody gamble.So no matter how you bring it, if it was my illusion, if it was a genuine bug, or if something else fall from the sky, i managed to obtain 65k out of it! Something you'll proberly never get even close to loolll.
The logical part of your brain is goodSo I guess this is the new weekly rigged games thread?
An observation I had the other night that I wouldn't dare post a thread about because you invariably sound like a nutjob and sore loser to boot is that quite often after a big win you get a few little "aftershocks" - so you'll be hammering away happily losing for hundreds of spins with barely a 2x pay to be seen, and then you get a big 200x pay, great! But the strange part is how often you seem to get a few 25x pays in the next few spins.
The reptilian conspiracy part of my brain says it must be because the win was "due" and it's now paying out your big win, plus some change.
The logical part of my brain says "funny how overactive pattern recognition works".
The logical part of your brain is good
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And in regard to the £65K Chilli win, how many time’s did it work? How many times have you made that much since on it? How much have you given back from the 65K?
I assume the old "ask me anything" thread is closed so I'll ask here:
Do these testing houses take into account accumulator wastage?
Eg; the Vikings go berzerk slot has 4 very slow to fill accumulators, now, a million spins from a single user with these will likely pay the trtp, but a thousand spins each from a thousand users? There's no way the vast majority of people will stop playing exactly after all four accumulators pay out simultaneously so the percentage of the wager dedicated to going into them is bound to be wasted.
Therefore you would expect the actual real life RTP of this slot (and indeed any slot with an accumulator function, especially multi-accumulators) to be well below advertised trtp.
Or do they somehow account for this in testing?
The old thread is closed but there is a new one
And no, sadly they don't - which is why i don't like long term persistence games. You're right that unless you play a very long time, you have no hope of getting to the total RTP...