Game providers have a reason to rig slots

[thr0b]

Since when is it forbidden to express frustration on a forum that's promoting gambling?

Since the boss says so

But also - if that's how you're feeling playing the games, you need to stop playing the games.

 

[Playford7]

Since the boss says so

But also - if that's how you're feeling playing the games, you need to stop playing the games.

Deep breath exercises and yoga would certainly help him.

 

[goatwack]

It just comes with time. Even Playford's calmed down a lot. Prior to his 8th ban he was still mugging joggers for sport

 

[player1]

It's also probably only a tiny minority of players, who would even video or screenshot any big wins, let alone post them on Youtube or wherever else

im not so sure about that I believe a lot of people are taking screenshots of their big wins these days so easy to share these too these days.

 

[Robert Rabbit]

And yes, given designers' lack of transparency, altering RTPs on the down-low, random Number Generators that aren't random (but 'sort of') & the classic 'It's all audited by 3rd- parties, to achieve the true numbers one has to play through 50 million spins bruh' mantra, it's quite clear the industry has every angle covered.

It's easy to cast stones at the industry but spare a moment's thought for that poor auditor who has had to sit through 50 million spins on bonanza to make sure the RTP is accurate

 

[brianmon]

im not so sure about that I believe a lot of people are taking screenshots of their big wins these days so easy to share these too these days.

So where do people share these screenshots and videos?

Casinomeister? YouTube? BigWinPictures?

Bigwin has 92 screenshots from DOA II
YouTube is full of streamers videos (mostly the same streamers, over and over again)
CM has a decent collection.

But considering there are hundreds of thousands of players worldwide (if not millions). there doesn't seem to be that much sharing going on.
Where do you look for pictures and videos?

 

[Kroffe]

Implying that 9p is not a reasoable stake...

 

[dealer wins]

Slightly different angle. Maybe more people feel the machines are rigged because the lowering of RTPs of late make such a massive difference.

The RTP makes a huge difference to how much "entertainment" you get. Example, £100 deposit playing slots at 97% your money will last about 3000 spins at £1, but at 92% you will only get on average 1300 spins.

Playing at a rate of 15 spins a minute gets you nearly 3.5 hours playing 97% slots, but only 1.5 hours at 92%.

Not only that, but your chance of being ahead at some point is much much higher on the 97% RTP.

So the number one thing would be to try to play slots at at least 96% of higher, and anything less than 94% you are costing yourself money, entertainment time and a lot of hope of having a winning session.

For me, who probably "spends" about £5000 a year playing slots, I get 175 hours fun if I play 97% slots as opposed to 75 hours playing slots with shit RTP. 100 extra hours, or 50 sessions of 2 hours fun is a huge difference!!!

 

[goatwack]

Problem with that is players don't want to spend 30 minutes of their allotted slots downtime being amateur RTP sleuths, and having to proofread every game's smallprint lest the provider tries to obfuscate that game's returns.

Which in itself one doesn't even need to do, a run-through of any of MG's back-catalogue will evidence that something's been stripped from its core, no doubt in small part to the 'seamless' transition from Flash to HTML5, but also with the few Flash stragglers they have left.

Nor do Netent's 'old' titles play anything remotely like their forebearers. I think there's quite a bit of RTP subterfuge afoot, the likes of which won't come to light for a good while yet

 

[player1]

Slightly different angle. Maybe more people feel the machines are rigged because the lowering of RTPs of late make such a massive difference.

The RTP makes a huge difference to how much "entertainment" you get. Example, £100 deposit playing slots at 97% your money will last about 3000 spins at £1, but at 92% you will only get on average 1300 spins.

Playing at a rate of 15 spins a minute gets you nearly 3.5 hours playing 97% slots, but only 1.5 hours at 92%.

Not only that, but your chance of being ahead at some point is much much higher on the 97% RTP.

So the number one thing would be to try to play slots at at least 96% of higher, and anything less than 94% you are costing yourself money, entertainment time and a lot of hope of having a winning session.

For me, who probably "spends" about £5000 a year playing slots, I get 175 hours fun if I play 97% slots as opposed to 75 hours playing slots with shit RTP. 100 extra hours, or 50 sessions of 2 hours fun is a huge difference!!!

have tried to stick to BTG, pragmatic, netent, greentube slots recently they seem to pay the best

 

[Playford7]

Ain’t played in well over a month.
Just no fun anymore, you need a decent match offer or a large-ish deposit for any decent playtime now, never mind the chance at a cashout.

for sure the changes in RTP has made a difference as has the market saturation with megaways and obscene variance slots.
Nowadays a 300x win is scoffed at.

of late better things to do with my money (or lack of it) than watching it drain like a egg timer watching 8 billion megaways cascade before my eyes.

 

[Robert Rabbit]

Ain’t played in well over a month.
Just no fun anymore, you need a decent match offer or a large-ish deposit for any decent playtime now, never mind the chance at a cashout.

for sure the changes in RTP has made a difference as has the market saturation with megaways and obscene variance slots.
Nowadays a 300x win is scoffed at.

of late better things to do with my money (or lack of it) than watching it drain like a egg timer watching 8 billion megaways cascade before my eyes.

Haven't gambled since lockdown commenced. I lost my wallet the other day and found it 3 miles down the road walking to the bookies, I asked what was wrong and it said it was a bit dazed and confused as it was not used to having so much money in it - actually any money in it

The shit I have been able to buy is unbelievable

 

[Playford7]

Haven't gambled since lockdown commenced. I lost my wallet the other day and found it 3 miles down the road walking to the bookies, I asked what was wrong and it said it was a bit dazed and confused as it was not used to having so much money in it - actually any money in it

The shit I have been able to buy is unbelievable

Same, I’ve invested more in my plants and cactus and herb garden (sad I know)
And the odd £50 here and there I’ve took the daughter out to eat more, treated her even more, feels better than 2 hours later being £50 down and thinking why lol

 

[Robert Rabbit]

Instead of punching a representative in the face, how about just not play the freaking game, or don't play with a bonus, or go water your plants, or read a book instead of resorting to acts of violence imagined or otherwise. Sheesh! Get a grip.

I can strongly recommend the following

Rocky
Mike Tyson the undisputed
The Boxer and the Spy

Glad I could help

 

[Playford7]

I can strongly recommend the following

Rocky
Mike Tyson the undisputed
The Boxer and the Spy

Glad I could help

Pugilist... a fighters story is also a hoot

 

[goatwack]

Kerry Katona's "8 kids by 3 different dads" is also a heart-warmer

 

[Playford7]

Kerry Katona's "8 kids by 3 different dads" is also a heart-warmer

Haha she’s a proper mess now.
Like Frankenstein’s monster only peroxide blonde haha

 

[Robert Rabbit]

Kerry Katona's "8 kids by 3 different dads" is also a heart-warmer

I was actually looking for an off road motor and having heard that Ulrika Jonssons nickname was 4 x 4 I thought she might be a good place to start researching.

Boy was I disappointed

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

For those of you struggling to find value and entertainment on slots, I have the solution for you.

Just play Bonanza and nothing else. It’s the greatest slot ever made.

You’re welcome.

 

[Luckyscouser45]

Yep. The cost of "entertainment" right here is just beserk. I feel with OP, we gamble to win. But the reality online is that 7 out of 10 deposits on avg are a straight loss. No matter your tactic. If your lucky enough you might 'roundplay' your initial deposit. But nobody is going to deposit 100, play for 2 hours, and hit withdrawl at a 100 again. It's a false form of entertainment and the way we are presented the RTP numbers.

I am so frustrated at the moment, if there was a punching bag i'd rip it apart with my fists right now. The fact alone that playing slots can just drive me to this madness is just crazy. What entertainment? It's pure lurking of players money, giving "near" shit all the time all over the place, or a standaard "130 coins" on a DOA bonus game, nummerous of times.

I wagered 3 to 5 grand in the last 2 weeks on DOA, sustained same bet. I played it at night. I played it in the morning. I played it in the afternoon. I even played it an half hour ago. The bottom line is: dont waste your time on these peaces of shit slots to be honest. Netent is truely the cancer of the industry in my opinion. It's just happening with most major providers since previous year really.

I really should have left previous year. Wipe my ass with all these providers and brands, and say get some evil decease really. All i ever accomplish in 3 different casino's is to play my money at least one time over and if i'm lucky enough get a small bone tossed over time. Random my ass. It's a RNG with extra's, all comes down to not making too much over a large amount of time.

I had it 4 times now. Dropped in 600 euro, lost, last frigging bonus buy on chilli on 10 euro (!) and getting a miracle fullscreen of purple's nobody ever seen in their life hitting like that before. And i did awefully alot of bonus buys on Chilli for it to know that this is'nt really what you call genuine. Yes a random event but a bit obvious after losing 600 euro.

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Previous week: 200 euro, buying 5x 40 euro bonus bets. I lose 'm all on the gamble feature. Left with 12 euro? I do the last buy, and frigging i have it on video as well, landing me perfectly around the 200 euro mark. Wtf is this wagered, rigged shit.

Obviously i lose both winnings here, because i already knew, it's a part of the systematic playing my deposit at least 1x round. Casino only gives me a blabla answer, nobody is going to really show the inner side workings of a casino. There's this huge silentness from providers that dont want their recipes to be dumped on the street.

Really people; big bets, 18 pounds on DOA, is just money that goes straight back to the 9 cents betters. All games have a tendency to trigger you into betting more. Bets are truely limited in relation of payout. If you want more you gotta take more risk. And many games do have a adjusted payback formula as i can say when playing on 9 cents vs 90 cents vs 3.60 vs 9 a spin. Left right, your going to get fisted anyway. It's programmed todo this.

I hit a full screen of purples!!! 2800 or something it paid believe me it’s possible to hit

 

[Playford7]

I hit a full screen of purples!!! 2800 or something it paid believe me it’s possible to hit

Oh ignore that guy, he had a ‘method’ on extra chilli... now he’s more angry than a fat guy at a diet buffet as slots don’t go his way...

 

[Davey86]

I hit a full screen of purples!!! 2800 or something it paid believe me it’s possible to hit

Everything is possible on slots do not listen to anything they say on those so called forums
Some would say black is white

 

[Playford7]

Everything is possible on slots do not listen to anything they say on those so called forums
Some would say black is white

You mentioned black.
Clear racism and reported ha

 

[Davey86]

You mentioned black.
Clear racism and reported ha

The cheek of some people if only you was banned I wouldn’t be reported

 

[Playford7]

The cheek of some people if only you was banned I wouldn’t be reported

I’m a man of god. Gone are the days of my bans.