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weplant

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Ok, this is pathetic...I have a debit card (visa) that I use to make deposits to my quicktender, etc..I also use it at a few casinos that only take credit card deposits. I am probobly on line gambling just about every day (shame on me)..

Well someone got a hold of my debit card number. When I checked my balance online, I noticed a charge for 500.00 to National Bank in Tijuana, Mexico!!!! So I notified the bank and they canceled my card:(
They will send me a new one, but will take 7 days....Which means no deposits to my favorite pastime... Today is day 1 and I miss it already... All my other cards are mastercards which are not acceptable..

Oh well, I guess I could: clean house, go out for a walk, etc., etc., etc.,

I want my gambling back!!!!!!!!!!!:D
 
weplant said:
Ok, this is pathetic...I have a debit card (visa) that I use to make deposits to my quicktender, etc..I also use it at a few casinos that only take credit card deposits. I am probobly on line gambling just about every day (shame on me)..

Well someone got a hold of my debit card number. When I checked my balance online, I noticed a charge for 500.00 to National Bank in Tijuana, Mexico!!!! So I notified the bank and they canceled my card:(
They will send me a new one, but will take 7 days....Which means no deposits to my favorite pastime... Today is day 1 and I miss it already... All my other cards are mastercards which are not acceptable..

Oh well, I guess I could: clean house, go out for a walk, etc., etc., etc.,

I want my gambling back!!!!!!!!!!!:D
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Go buy a netspend Visa and put somemoney in it. It will be available instantly and you can deposit at QT with it.:thumbsup:
 
weplant said:
did they ever find out how they got your number??? Did the bank cover the charge? Pretty scary...
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My bank (chase) said the charge was a "debit card transaction" and that someone must know my card information:eek:. But they got it back next day in a no questions asked manner :notworthy.

lol I just got my new debit card today whew :thumbsup:
 
weplant said:
Ok, this is pathetic...I have a debit card (visa) that I use to make deposits to my quicktender, etc..I also use it at a few casinos that only take credit card deposits. I am probobly on line gambling just about every day (shame on me)..

Well someone got a hold of my debit card number. When I checked my balance online, I noticed a charge for 500.00 to National Bank in Tijuana, Mexico!!!! So I notified the bank and they canceled my card:(They will send me a new one, but will take 7 days....Which means no deposits to my favorite pastime... Today is day 1 and I miss it already... All my other cards are mastercards which are not acceptable..

Oh well, I guess I could: clean house, go out for a walk, etc., etc., etc.,

I want my gambling back!!!!!!!!!!!:D
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Personally, I think I'd be more worried about who and how someone stole my card info. Without stopping the leak, so to speak, who's to say it won't happen again?

And (broken record repeating itself) just a general word of advice to all from an old mouse: if using a bank debit card for gambling and shopping online, please use an account that it is not tied to your household/living expenses account.
 
P.V. said:
So this is your gaming only card and someone committed fraud by using your card elsewhere? Have you provided copies of this card during verification? How is it used if I may ask?
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Actually this is my debit card I use for everything...Yes, I have had to provide copies of the card for withdraws from several casinos. However, I blank out the middle numbers and the cvc on the back... I mostly use usemywallet for deposits, which is tied to this card.

It is very interesting that another member on this forum had the same issue with same bank..it was listed as First National Bank , Tijuana, Mexico...

My bank is reversing the charge and sending me another card..

I was thinking of setting up a account with usemywallet that uses your checking account instead of debit card..They call it ACH, however their fee is even higher..Instead of 5% it is 8.5%!! yikes...

I did apply for a netspend card, like was suggested, but they said it would take 10 business days to receive...

Please, everyone, make sure you check your accounts on line daily to make sure there is no fradulant activity happening...It is so scary to think some could do this..My bank said chances are they will never know how it was done..:eek:
 
weplant said:
Actually this is my debit card I use for everything...Yes, I have had to provide copies of the card for withdraws from several casinos. However, I blank out the middle numbers and the cvc on the back... I mostly use usemywallet for deposits, which is tied to this card.

It is very interesting that another member on this forum had the same issue with same bank..it was listed as First National Bank , Tijuana, Mexico...

My bank is reversing the charge and sending me another card..

I was thinking of setting up a account with usemywallet that uses your checking account instead of debit card..They call it ACH, however their fee is even higher..Instead of 5% it is 8.5%!! yikes...

I did apply for a netspend card, like was suggested, but they said it would take 10 business days to receive...

Please, everyone, make sure you check your accounts on line daily to make sure there is no fradulant activity happening...It is so scary to think some could do this..My bank said chances are they will never know how it was done..:eek:
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you could have gone to any wal-mart and buy one for $6.95...anyway they say 10 days but usually takes much less time than that.:thumbsup:
 
And (broken record repeating itself) just a general word of advice to all from an old mouse: if using a bank debit card for gambling and shopping online, please use an account that it is not tied to your household/living expenses account
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I say the same thing over and over again,
open a separate checking account. you can deposit as little as $10 bucks to get it started especially if anyone plans on using the QT ach.
 
slotplayer said:
I say the same thing over and over again,
open a separate checking account. you can deposit as little as $10 bucks to get it started especially if anyone plans on using the QT ach.
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I have opened a QT ach, just have to wait a few days for them to verify first deposit...Too bad they charge more for it..But hopefully it will be safer...
 
Actually mine was for $398.00, the think the same amount that 2 others have reported...Did yours also say First National Bank,, Tijuana Mexico??
 
weplant said:
Actually mine was for $398.00, the think the same amount that 2 others have reported...Did yours also say First National Bank,, Tijuana Mexico??
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yup! exact same charge amount for me from same place :eek2:! Mine showed up the same time I recieved a withdrawal from QT...
 
fraud

You probably need to look further than QuickTender and maybe where you play. I bet the 2 of you can break it down and find the problem. Looks like fraud from somewhere you play more so than a cash provider. What benefit would they have? In house problem for sure...
 
P.V. said:
You probably need to look further than QuickTender and maybe where you play. I bet the 2 of you can break it down and find the problem. Looks like fraud from somewhere you play more so than a cash provider. What benefit would they have? In house problem for sure...
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P.V. I think you are probobly right...As I mentioned before I have played in a few questionable casinos..Should try and figure it out and make sure I stay away from them:confused:
 
stevohhh said:
yup! exact same charge amount for me from same place :eek2:! Mine showed up the same time I recieved a withdrawal from QT...
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Stevohh...I would love to know how this happened as to try and avoid it happening again...Do you only play AC casinos, or do wonder off the list as I do sometimes? If you don't want to publically post it, you can PM me..thanks:p
 
weplant said:
Stevohh...I would love to know how this happened as to try and avoid it happening again...Do you only play AC casinos, or do wonder off the list as I do sometimes? If you don't want to publically post it, you can PM me..thanks:p
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Hello guys,

I was browsing the website yesterday to try to find out about First National Bank in Tijuana as someone took $398 out of my credit card.

The awful part is that I realized about the fraud when my card was declined at a restaurant (currently on vacation)!! So I'm spending my time off trying to find out who did this.

I reported to my Bank and they are currently investigating but I also made my own investigation so I'll send you a private message with my findings as this seems more like a big fraud as I dont play on any casino and I'm single - no kids or anything that can indicate someone from my house took the info and used it on a casino!

Thanks,

JP
 
Visitor said:
Hello guys,

I was browsing the website yesterday to try to find out about First National Bank in Tijuana as someone took $398 out of my credit card.

The awful part is that I realized about the fraud when my card was declined at a restaurant (currently on vacation)!! So I'm spending my time off trying to find out who did this.

I reported to my Bank and they are currently investigating but I also made my own investigation so I'll send you a private message with my findings as this seems more like a big fraud as I dont play on any casino and I'm single - no kids or anything that can indicate someone from my house took the info and used it on a casino!

Thanks,

JP
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Thank you JP..I received your PM and appreciate all the leg work you did and the phone numbers..This really seems to involve a lot of people...thanks again:)
 
weplant said:
Stevohh...I would love to know how this happened as to try and avoid it happening again...Do you only play AC casinos, or do wonder off the list as I do sometimes? If you don't want to publically post it, you can PM me..thanks:p
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As far as casinos go, the only ones I've ver deposited with a my cc are bodog and slots galore lol and I'm pretty sure they don't have anything to do with it. Besides that I deposited to a number of poker rooms with cc so maybe them?
 
Visitor said:
Hello guys,

I was browsing the website yesterday to try to find out about First National Bank in Tijuana as someone took $398 out of my credit card.

The awful part is that I realized about the fraud when my card was declined at a restaurant (currently on vacation)!! So I'm spending my time off trying to find out who did this.

I reported to my Bank and they are currently investigating but I also made my own investigation so I'll send you a private message with my findings as this seems more like a big fraud as I dont play on any casino and I'm single - no kids or anything that can indicate someone from my house took the info and used it on a casino!

Thanks,

JP
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This is very strange seeing as you don't play online casinos.

How could this have happened then? I thought for sure it was a crooked employee or something of that nature. This is very odd for sure.

*this didn't happen to me, I am just interested in the outcome*
 
just play said:
This is very strange seeing as you don't play online casinos.

How could this have happened then? I thought for sure it was a crooked employee or something of that nature. This is very odd for sure.

*this didn't happen to me, I am just interested in the outcome*
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I'm not a casino type, I do have an account at a skill game site, so not sure if that falls into the casino category here!? Being said that, I do play games online but not in a casino.

I did call the site after I read the posts and I asked them if they were related to any online casino. They said, they are not and I believe them because I've played there for many years now and have never seen or received advertising about casinos.

I also shop online a lot so really don't know where or how my info was stolen, but I decided to go after them! My lawyer is calling on Monday. I got all phone numbers, emails and websites I need. Couldn't record conversations as I'm away but as soon as I come back home, next week, I'll invest more time on what's happening as many more are probably affected.

When I got to their page and scrolled I knew it was them:

PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY FOR ONLY $11.00 / Month For 3 Years ($398.00)

It's ironic that they sell Identity theft kits when this is clearly a case of indentity theft!

I sent all info to the affected person here and I hope she can give more info to others.

I'll post in case I have more news from them.

JP
 
Visitor said:
I'm not a casino type, I do have an account at a skill game site, so not sure if that falls into the casino category here!? Being said that, I do play games online but not in a casino.

I did call the site after I read the posts and I asked them if they were related to any online casino. They said, they are not and I believe them because I've played there for many years now and have never seen or received advertising about casinos.

I also shop online a lot so really don't know where or how my info was stolen, but I decided to go after them! My lawyer is calling on Monday. I got all phone numbers, emails and websites I need. Couldn't record conversations as I'm away but as soon as I come back home, next week, I'll invest more time on what's happening as many more are probably affected.

When I got to their page and scrolled I knew it was them:

PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY FOR ONLY $11.00 / Month For 3 Years ($398.00)

It's ironic that they sell Identity theft kits when this is clearly a case of indentity theft!

I sent all info to the affected person here and I hope she can give more info to others.

I'll post in case I have more news from them.

JP
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I also have had $398. deducted from my bank account. Bank of Tijuana! No idea who, what or why, I do gamble online and have only sent my debit card info to Party City for withdrawal reasons a few months ago. I now only use eWallet. have filed a Police report and a fraud claim at my bank.......WHO is doing this? And how are they getting the information?
 
I found this interesting...
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and see if any of your contact numbers for the questionable bank match up here...

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edited to add:
as this is international banking fraud, the feds and attorney general might be interested. the drug cartels get money any way they can and i'm sure they haven't ignored online fraud....
 
Thanks for responding. I had seen the above post but that is for Bookmakers or some such (without going back and looking lol) Although one transaction is the same amount.

Not sure what you mean by contact numbers........? I did look and also took another look at the transaction on my bank account..........none of those numbers match anything. Although it is national Bank of Tijuana and the amount of 398. for "purchase" not sure purchase of what though!
 
Hey

I sent you a private message...

I got the numbers for the Bank of Tijuana and I have the direct line of the person there in the security department that is helping. The name of the guy is Steve and he also gave me phone of the company behind the charges

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You must know that the 800 number there is NOT the one he gave me. I have spoken to them and my lawyer will be calling on Monday.

They sell IDENTITY THEFT KITS!!!!

Have numbers (not sure if I can post them in the open forum though- posted their URL after saw others posting links) if someone tells me is fine I'll post all numbers i have.

JP
 
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Wierd. I was reading a thread on 2+2 (can i put link here?) about Negraneau and Brunson backing some phony product and one of the posts showed the whois of the site and it is the exact same as the one above.

Would this help in any way in figuring out how they got your info?
 
paul02085 said:
Wierd. I was reading a thread on 2+2 (can i put link here?) about Negraneau and Brunson backing some phony product and one of the posts showed the whois of the site and it is the exact same as the one above.

Would this help in any way in figuring out how they got your info?
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That whois info. is useless to track down who actually owns this domain. The only thing they share is that they use the same whois 'privacy service.' to cloak their real identity..
 
Theres surely some

common denominator, I only use that particular card online, and at limited casinos, but "visitor" not playing at any, bar I think she said a games site, kind of throws any theory I come up with out the window.
 
I was also hit for 398.00 for First national Bank / Mexico - I cancelled my card - I was sure this was from a casino and is worried my bank will find out I use card for gambling. I am stunned so many people here were hit with same fraud - there has to be a link
 
a few thoughts on this...

There must be a common denominator (however elusive) ... a vendor, (a vendor with malware BTW of which they may not even be aware), and/or malware on your computers.

I recommend that each of you run intensive scans for virii and malware. And I don't mean just set your current AV/IS to do a deep scan -- remember if your system is infected, your current AV/IS let it thru. Run your current AV, yes. Do a deep scan. THEN, download some things like Spybot Search & Destroy, Avast, and a couple more and run EACH of them (one at a time of course). And when you download the other security apps be sure you're downloading from either the company website or somewhere that's safe. Scammers often set up crap websites that offer infected/fake versions of the legit security utilities. Sometimes Google is not our friend...

A second recommendation is to never use your 'regular' household credit/debit card online... particularly at casinos.
 
Hello,

I'm back to US after my vacation and I stopped by to see how was the case for the other members. I confirm my money was returned to my card. So anyone that wants numbers etc, send me a private message. Since I'm new here, let me know if I can post them here directly in case I don't visit the forum too often to give info individually.

Regards,

JP
 
Visitor said:
Hello,

I'm back to US after my vacation and I stopped by to see how was the case for the other members. I confirm my money was returned to my card. So anyone that wants numbers etc, send me a private message. Since I'm new here, let me know if I can post them here directly in case I don't visit the forum too often to give info individually.

Regards,

JP
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Hi Jp,
My bank refunded my money also..Although they said they (National Bank) has 45 days to dispute!!..I cannot beleive all the people that have had this same charge..Thanks for all your help....:notworthy
 
OH WELL

weplant said:
Hi Jp,
My bank refunded my money also..Although they said they (National Bank) has 45 days to dispute!!..I cannot beleive all the people that have had this same charge..Thanks for all your help....:notworthy
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WHAT CASINOS HAVE YOU DEPOSITED WITH LATELY?" I DONT TRUST QT NO PHONE JUST EMAILS THEY NEVER ANSWER THEY ARE KNOWN FOR DOUBLE CHARGING I USE EWALLET BUT THERE NOT ANY BETTER. WHEN YOU PLAY AT CASINO DO YOU GIVE CARD NUMBER TO YOUR CASINO HOST NOT A GOOD IDEA, SOUNDS LIKE WHAT VIRTUAL DID TO ME 2 YRS AGO.
 
Hi diamond! Not my case! I do not play in a casino...Play skill games and NEVER had problems with the site before, for what I read here and at the other forum, this looks like a processors thing, not related to a specific site...

Just my two cents here...

JP
 

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