Gambling Bill to Pass Senate By Midnight

Cynthialc

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My Foriegn Deposit check Debited From my bank account

Last week I checked my online banking statement and noticed a "deposit returned debit along with a 10 USD return fee. I called my bank and they checked it out and said it was a foriegn check drawn on a Nat West account in London. I replied that it was a bingo site and that it was a check for my winnings. (Not really bingo) After numerous discussions they re credited my account, but then I was charged another 10 USD for a foriegn processing fee. I did finally get that waived, but I am very leary as this has never ever happedend before. Just my 2 pennes on this thread.
 

swampwitch

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Nothing better than waking up to a couple of lovely little paternalistic patronizing posts at my expense. How silly of me to express an opinion without checking first with the proper self-appointed authorities.

I say again...many things can happen in the next 270 days...including regime change, and even the refusal of banks and other financial institutions to be bullied by the right wing nutjobs.

We will see what we will see. I for one am not going to lay down and die.
 

jetset

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"Nothing better than waking up to a couple of lovely little paternalistic patronizing posts at my expense. How silly of me to express an opinion without checking first with the proper self-appointed authorities."

Huh? Where's the paternalism and patronising? I see only courteous responses that support your points.
 

swampwitch

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Here's something I didn't know...Frist seems to have a history of adding things to bills at the last minute to help his campaign contributors....

Thursday, February 09, 2006
Dr. Frist adds immunity for pharmaceutical companies to defense bill
Critics claim he did it in secret, but Frist denies it. Then again, Frist isn't quite sure what the word blind means in blind trust.


By BILL THEOBALD
Gannett News Service

WASHINGTON Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and House Speaker Dennis Hastert engineered a backroom legislative maneuver to protect pharmaceutical companies from lawsuits, say witnesses to the pre-Christmas power play.

The language was tucked into a Defense Department appropriations bill at the last minute without the approval of members of a House-Senate conference committee, say several witnesses, including a top Republican staff member.

In an interview, Frist, a doctor and Tennessee Republican, denied that the wording was added that way.

Trial lawyers and other groups condemn the law, saying it could make it nearly impossible for people harmed by a vaccine to force the drug maker to pay for their injuries.

Does anyone have any info that Frist's latest add-on tactic will aid him financially as well?
 

Simmo!

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Nothing better than waking up to a couple of lovely little paternalistic patronizing posts at my expense.

:confused: Did I miss something?

swampwitch said:
Does anyone have any info that Frist's latest add-on tactic will aid him financially as well?

I think he did it for the vote. I read he's running for the 2008 presidency. Nuff said if thats the case.
 

swampwitch

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Seems Frist received $10,000 plus from Abramoff's political action committee..the one that was funded by the Saginaw Chippewa tribe and its casino interests. When the Abramoff scandal broke, Frist, in a nod to the critics, returned the money. Actually, just $2000 of it. That means $8000 in kept contributions from sources with a vested interest in keeping non-B&M casinos outlawed.
 

sdaddy

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It would be one thing if this bill was passed by Congress after going through the "regular" process, meaning committee hearings and being voted on as its own bill in both chambers. Although I still wouldn't like the final product, at least I could accept it as the democratic will of the American people. The way this was finally pushed through, however, makes my stomach turn. I have never been more disappointed with my government than right now.
 

lovetogamble

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Yep....He's Running For President!

I read he's running for the 2008 presidency. Nuff said if thats the case.

Oh yes...this is really who we need for President!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Why don't we just run Mickey Mouse too? Say what you want about all politicans being corrupt (which they all are)....but all three politicans that pushed so hard to get this bill through were Republicans...Goodlatte, Kyl and Frist are all Republicans. Republicans are trying to appease the so called "right wing moral majority" and simply to gather votes. I'm not saying that the Democrats are not as corrupt but they were the only ones to keep this bill from going through the last time around....and only a small handful of them kept it from passing.

Everyday another right is taken away from us. We no longer can smoke at any public places including restaurants where I live. BUT who's to blame for all this... WE ARE! No one votes! More people watch the Super Bowl each year then vote in elections! Somebody voted these jerks into office and we MUST VOTE to get them out! You don't have to vote Rep. or Democrat...vote Independent, write in ....just VOTE! If we don't do something really soon...American is going to hell in a handbag!;)
 

RobWin

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Oh yes...this is really who we need for President!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Why don't we just run Mickey Mouse too? Say what you want about all politicans being corrupt (which they all are)....but all three politicans that pushed so hard to get this bill through were Republicans...Goodlatte, Kyl and Frist are all Republicans. Republicans are trying to appease the so called "right wing moral majority" and simply to gather votes. I'm not saying that the Democrats are not as corrupt but they were the only ones to keep this bill from going through the last time around....and only a small handful of them kept it from passing.

Everyday another right is taken away from us. We no longer can smoke at any public places including restaurants where I live. BUT who's to blame for all this... WE ARE! No one votes! More people watch the Super Bowl each year then vote in elections! Somebody voted these jerks into office and we MUST VOTE to get them out! You don't have to vote Rep. or Democrat...vote Independent, write in ....just VOTE! If we don't do something really soon...American is going to hell in a handbag!;)


Agree lovetogamble.....we have to get more people voting and at least writing in their Independent vote.....Like you said............JUST VOTE !! :thumbsup:
 

RobWin

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It would be one thing if this bill was passed by Congress after going through the "regular" process, meaning committee hearings and being voted on as its own bill in both chambers. Although I still wouldn't like the final product, at least I could accept it as the democratic will of the American people. The way this was finally pushed through, however, makes my stomach turn. I have never been more disappointed with my government than right now.

Absolutely sdaddy, I could not agree more with you on this issue an I am also more disappointed with my government right now than ever before.....:mad:
 

NoMouthToScream

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Totally agree with lovetogamble, get everyone in your area, and tell them how the government works to sneak laws under needed laws/bills. We have the greatest medium to date to transmit information to everyone we know. The Internet!, while the government is still trying to understand what "the internets" and it's tubes lead to. But then you might then who do I vote for? Well for me, it's not just about voting independent, I mean hell look at Lieberman, he's going independent. I say vote Libertarian! :D

But seriously it takes a little work to research who's running in your area and who is right for you. Primaries are very important. As are, local elections.

Good luck to all.
 

spearmaster

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Here is respected gaming lawyer I. Nelson Rose's take on the new legislation - rather than posting it here as I expect the contents to change periodically, here is a link:

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Basically, he has come to many of the same conclusions I have earlier in this thread, with the primary exception being that he feels affiliates could be affected under the theory of "aiding and abetting".

He also believes poker is covered by the "game subject to chance" definition in 5362.

I will try to obtain further analyses from other prominent lawyers in the industry, such as Professor Joe Kelly.
 

WagerWitch

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OK, everybody (including me) calm down.

Geeze Cipher...you make me look like freakin' Pollyanna.

They have 9 months to make the restrictions stick. If they don't have the proper checks and balances in place, this sucker goes by the wayside, anyway.
Besides....9 months is plenty of time for a court challenge or two..not to mention the fact that the next Congress is going to look much different. That which has been done, may find itself undone.

Damn! I just made myself feel better. There goes my whole personality.

Have I told you lately that I love you?

ROFLMAO!
 
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