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Gambling Bill to Pass Senate By Midnight

Discussion in 'Casino Industry Discussion' started by Forbin001, Sep 26, 2006.

    Sep 26, 2006
  1. Forbin001

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    Did Frist succeed?

    Ok heres the news story....


    Gambling Legislation Dead At Least Through Elections
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    September 25, 2006
    Contact: Jay Bailey
    800-724-8334 ext. 83

    The National Right for Online Gaming (NROG) confirmed early today that Senator Bill Frists attempt to push through an online gambling ban before Congress breaks for elections has failed and no more action will be taken in the coming days. Speaking on condition of anonymity, a source close to the Senator told NROG that the efforts, including an attempt to attach to the DoD bill, have failed and he (Frist) will not be moving forward with gambling legislation before elections. Congress will return for a lame duck session in mid-November where this issue may take center stage again. The Senator has made Internet Gambling a priority before he exits the Senate and I will confirm that he is actively searching for a way to succeed.

    NROG Director of Development, Jay Bailey, said earlier today "If Senator Frist wishes to make this an issue then he should do what the House did in July and bring HR-4411 to the floor of the Senate for debate. Hiding legislation in other bills to further ones own political agenda is not what our citizens deserve. These games in Washington must stop.

    Founded by businessmen Brian Jakusik and Bailey, the National Right for Online Gaming is a 501(c) non-profit focused on informing and educating the public, through mass media and marketing, about congressional attempts to take away the right to play poker, sports books and other casino games online.

    Most of the organizations currently lobbying against the ban are working behind the scenes directly with the politicians. While NROG has been actively participating in these inside political battles, they believe, in light of the political unrest on this issue in recent months, its time for a more public approach. There is no force greater than that of the American People. We must let them know whats going on. Bailey said.

    "Its unfortunate that there's only one side of the issue in the media right now." Jakusik said. "The politicians and the arrests of online gambling execs are all that people see. They're not getting a balanced view of the issue. Thankfully we have helped stop Frist this time, but you can be sure this is not over. We simply have to get the public active.






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  2. Sep 26, 2006
  3. tennis_balls

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    hmmmm???
     
  4. Sep 26, 2006
  5. webber286

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    Great news for sure. If the elections go the way they are predicted, it doesn't look like this will make it to the light of day in a lame duck session.
     
  6. Sep 30, 2006
  7. cipher

    cipher Banned member - being a jerk

    It appears as though Frist is at it again. He is attaching the Internet Gambling Bill to the Port Security Bill and they'll be voting on it tonight.

    Have a good one.
     
  8. Sep 30, 2006
  9. Simmo!

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    hmmmm!!!
     
  10. Sep 30, 2006
  11. Westland Bowl

    Westland Bowl Tin Foil Hat Club Member CAG PABnonaccred

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    Winner Online is reporting that Frist was successful in attaching legislation that bans credit cards, banks, and internet payment websites from settling gambling debts! All that is needed is for the president to sign to take effect! At this point I don't know if it is premature reporting or not.
     
  12. Sep 30, 2006
  13. Westland Bowl

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    Did Frist succeed?

    Winner Online is reporting that Frist was successful in attaching legislation that bans credit cards, banks, and internet payment websites from settling gambling debts! All that is needed is for the president to sign to take effect! At this point I don't know if it is premature reporting or not.
     
  14. Sep 30, 2006
  15. Simmo!

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    Settling debts? Thats different to everything touted so far surely? If its your own money in the first place, its not a debt, so is this a half-measure to stop borrowing to fund gambling? If so, that's actually quite sensible!
     
  16. Sep 30, 2006
  17. Westland Bowl

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    I certainly hope that banks can tell the difference. I assume that banks are going to take the safest route and just ban any Neteller or other similiar websites regardless if it is for gambling debts or not. I guess funding Neteller is going to be slower as it might have to be funded via a mailed money order.
     
  18. Sep 30, 2006
  19. Simmo!

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    Plus there's always Prepaid :cool: If what is reported is correct, it stops short of banning online gambling I assume.
     
  20. Sep 30, 2006
  21. paul02085

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    It will be interesting what it actually turns out to be. It will have a chilling effect on the industry in any event.:mad:

    I wont be surprised if casinos/pokerrooms start banning US players in a big way.
     
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  22. Sep 30, 2006
  23. pacers31

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    Apparently they are going to make the banks flag transactions from 3rd party gambling entities. I'm not sure how they will do that. I guess someone at every bank in the U.S. will have to screen each and every ACH transaction and determine whether it is a gambling transaction or not?? Doesn't seem very feasible to me. The sites already use third party outfits that don't even sound like they resemble a gambling site. I know my bodog deposits show up as Middleton something or other. How are banks going to take on such a massive project with such staggering costs?? I am also surprised that the banking industry lobby (most formidible I would imagine) would not be fighting tooth and nail to stop this action. Anyone have anymore news about this yet??
     
  24. Sep 30, 2006
  25. dhayman

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    This is horrible news. The Repbulicans appeared to have backdoored this one:

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  26. Sep 30, 2006
  27. SlotsWizard

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    I'm watching C-SPAN2 (aka "Snoozefest TV") to see what happens. Not that I can even understand half the shit they're doing or saying.

    Motherf'ers! :mad:
     
  28. Sep 30, 2006
  29. dhayman

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    Yeah, I'm watching it too. I saw the House vote, and it made me sick. I'm hoping this won't happen. Some key elements from the news story:

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    The agreement, a blend of earlier measures passed by the House and Senate, would make it illegal for banks and credit card companies to make payments to online gambling sites.

    The bill would leave out an additional provision of the House bill that would have clarified that a 1961 federal law banning interstate telephone betting also covers an array of online gambling.
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  30. Sep 30, 2006
  31. SlotsWizard

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    The text of the bill is here:

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    The anti-freedom crap begins on page 213.
     
  32. Sep 30, 2006
  33. wheresmymoney

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    I'm a little slow on the uptake

    I'm a U.S. citizen and live in New York. Is it, under the current law, illegal for me to play online BJ, slots etc. (anything other than betting on sports)?

    Will this Bill in any way be retroactive?:confused:

    What is the earliest date that this Bill can take effect?
     
  34. Sep 30, 2006
  35. SlotsWizard

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    I think there was a NY supreme court ruling some time ago which interpreted online gambling from within NY state as illegal, but I don't think that's stopped any New Yorkers from playing aside from the defendent in that particular case.

    I don't think this bill is retroactive. (If it is, Simmo!, can you please give me some tips on where to find good housing in the UK?) I further doubt that it would even be possible to enforce the changes right away, at least not for paper checks and electronic checks (EFT). From what I understand, EFT transactions do not currently carry a "This guy is trying to gamble online! Call the cops!" flag the way that credit card transactions do, so implementing and testing a change with an international scope would probably take some time.
     
  36. Sep 30, 2006
  37. SlotsWizard

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    They're discussing the bill right now....
     
  38. Sep 30, 2006
  39. SlotsWizard

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    WTF?! A democrat started to talk about the bill in question, but he was quickly interrupted so that they could call a quorum, then after several minutes of silence they retracted the quorum crap and gave the floor to the drunken Alabama republican so that he can blab endlessly about immigration and the big fence.
     

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