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Alright who turned off the free spins features on all the games, the last week nothing. I think you guys talking about the wins with the free spins so much the casinos caught on and tigthened up the slot machines. Just kidding but for real something happened, never went this long with no free spins since started.
 
Issue

Something must be up with the latest upgrade, too many posts about this to be the odd unlucky player. Looks like they may have redistributed the way the payouts hit. More reel wins and less free spin runs. Even if MG have instigated this, it will be a blow to players confidence as it will confirm that existing games can be tweaked in the background with no clue for players.
Game tweaks are not unknown; Cryptologic recently tweaked the Double Bonus VP to give more profit to the casino. This did at least become obvious as it has a fixed paytable. Reprogramming slots is a different issue, as players have no idea that their odds and/or win distributions have changed. Casino operators may well not know either.
If you complain you will get the "It's random, you have just been unlucky". They can't prove it, but players cannot prove anything has changed.
 
Well after over 600 spins on Thunderstruck and amongst other games I lost well over my usual 2k, well my worst few days at the Casino/s as I lost well over 7k.

I get alot back on free spins, and what done my head in was, when I did eventualy get free spins I got around 85 bucks on 14 free spins which are tripled so it really got me down.

I'm in two minds now about trying to win back my loses over the next few weeks or call it a day, and say it's been good while I have been lucky.

Oh yeah, yes it hard to prove any slot be it at a casino or local pub as the 90+% means it is guaranteed to give you a win (the 90+%) be it 20p or 20k.

Thanks
 
machines different

I have notice the wheels going different ways all of a sudden, they used to do this once in a great while and now there spinning totaly different, used to go one way now go two different ways on all free spin slots. Are all the casinos set to one standard for microgaming casinos or is each online casino set there own percentages for slots. I used to beable to play for a while with $200.00 a day but in the last week it takes about an hr. to bust. Giong to have to give it a break for awhile and actually win more on progressive slots lately than others, not the jackpots just go payoffs.
 
There is something really wrong with the free spin. I played last week and didnt get one free spin on thunderstruck and spring break. I dont know what it could be but I play almost everyday and this happen to me on friday and I have not played since.
 
I had 188 spins on that new "DINOMIGHT" with no "feature".
(I really can't bitch... I did get 5 scatters the night before... $100 for a 50 cent spin... :) )

Also on "HALLOWEENIES"... 263 spins with NO free spins... :( but when I did finally get the 3 bunnies... I got a bit over $80 on the free spins... at 60 cents a spin.

I think that maybe the free spins are showing up less often, but when they do hit... the overall payout is better.
 
yes- something happened. Only another piece in the puzzle: I just lost 500$ on thunderstruck and springbreak - no feature coming up there.
I guess, MG has tightened up - if it were only a few players, i would agree: bad luck, but that s different now.
 
Someone must have turned it back on. I got free spins within free spins (hit four scatters) in Thunderstruck this weekend. And this was within about ten spins of play. At $22.50 a spin I raked in about $1800. I was happy - but kept fantasizing a huge hit. :D
 
Casinomeister said:
Someone must have turned it back on. I got free spins within free spins (hit four scatters) in Thunderstruck this weekend. And this was within about ten spins of play. At $22.50 a spin I raked in about $1800. I was happy - but kept fantasizing a huge hit. :D

LOL. I know the feeling.

I hit $1800 off $11.25 and like you had 4 free spins in the feature aswell on Tstruck. I then upped to $22.50 a spin, hit the free spins again, and landed a mere $450! But they're still there. Same session, i had two "rollovers" totalling 45 free spins at $9 for about $1500.

That said i couldn't land squat in the Slot Junkies comp on Spring Break and the Tstruck wins were at 32Red out of frustration so they didnt even count for the Roxy Palace Tstruck comp :(
 
Well as much as I'm going to hate it, I'm going to have to stop playing for awhile. I play almost everyday and I'm not saying I don't get upset when I don't win, but when the play is as bad as it has been for about the last couple of weeks, I have no choice, I lost my behind today and over the weekend, I couldn't hit a darn thing and "Free Spins" are a thing in the past. lol Since Howard Hughes didn't leave me his millions when he passed I'm just going to stop for awhile. Hope you guys have much better luck and win BIG! lol
 
I agree

I agree with goodie2shoes i am going to have to hang it up for awhile also, after hearing casinomister hitting the free spins there for a while i thought maybe they where back on but got on after reading his post and nothing again. Drop down to .25 cent slots and i still lost my a$$. Between the last 2 weeks these games have killed me.I no you don't play slots to win all the time but i also don't like to lose as much as i been losing in the last couple of weeks either.Just maybe some of the G.M. will read this board and figure out that we figured out that the games have changed and will put them back to the way they were after they see how many people stop playing for awhile, i dout it but maybe. Use to see 4 to 5 big winners a day at golden reef casino from 5000.00 to 8000.00 a win and in the last 2 weeks after checking there winner boards there has been only 1 or 2 a day. Never seen that with them in 2 years of playing there. So you cannot tell me something has changed here in the slot games. I will keep an eye on the board and when i start reading post where people are having better luck then i might start playing again or change the way i spend on casinos anyways. To many people posting on this matter for something not to have changed. Good Luck Everybody.
 
Right. You all know my take on such phenomena, but I'm keeping an open mind and I'm gonna do some research into this tonight at 32Red:D

Will keep ya posted, keep on eye on the winner screenshots thread:D

I don't have to mention the other screenshot thread do I....

Cheers,
SM
 
Well I couldn't let this go so I went and played again.

Deposited 500 and tried Thunderstruck got no where. Done another depo and then played Tomb and got spins and got around 2000.

Did I do the sensible thing and cashin? Nope, lol

Went back to Thunderstruck and it killed me again while I did get free spins but not much of them.

Done another depo and went around and played GoodToGo and secret admirer and did win some but missed out on the 5 speed things on the bonus and got 4 rings on Secret too but was still around 2000.

I should have cashed out but I said no way, it has to like me by now. After a long while I got free spins and got Thor or two with the Staffs to give me a final win of just over 6000 UK.

I played other slots Progressive machines went to 5500 and then played on Tomb Raider again and after going down to 4900 I carried on and won some back and then played Bush Telegraph and upped it back to just over 6000.

I have now halved my losses the for last 4-5 days.

:lolup:

Now do I go back and try and win the rest back is the question.

I had free spins on and off and apart for Thunderstruck win, I never got much out of the rest as I use too.

Also what I couldn't believe was that, on secret admirer I got the bonus spins and never got much , and got them again a few spins after and again a few spins after. Any other time I had got 4 or 5 rings for big wins but this time I had more bonus spins than wins.

Just glad I am up today as I could have lost another 1500.

Thanks
 
This may be something, but it may be nothing. I have no way of knowing for sure.

All that I can say is that I'm an irregular low-roller and I won't be playing slots real soon. I've won tons (to me) on slots, but I haven't played in the last couple of weeks.

I'd love to see someone who's winning...and preferrably several of you!

I'm positive that this is nothing approaching a mathmaticallty correct sample that should/can be used to judge your own probability of winning, but I've seen the ebbs and flows of this board and never have I seen so many negative reports.

I'll even volunteer for a trip report. Maybe this weekend.

Take Care!

Kevin
 
Trip Report

I'm here to report that the free spins were plentiful for my bride tonight...

She played HO-HO-HO tonight at 7 Sultans and hit the free spin feature...

...And then hit it twice more during the free spins for a grand total of 60 free spins in a row!!

She was betting $1.35/pull or about six cents per line and won amost two hundred dollars during the bonus rounds!!

I was gonna wait until the weekend to play slots, but this message board does something to me!

Kevin
 
nice thread

it would be great to see the most spins we can spin without hitting the free spin feature - i was playing spring break the other day and went about 700 spins without hitting 3 beach partys!! - sorry, i havent got a screenshot, but i am sure i will be posting shortly :D :D

does anyone know how often, on average you should expect to hit the feature on spring break?
 
When Thor and Spring Break are hot, I have seen me hit the free spins multiple times within 50 or 60 spins, and re-trigger during the bonus round. When it's lukewarm, I find they both usually hit at about 150-200 spins in. When they are ice cold, I think the longest I have gone with no bonus round is over 900 spins on Thor. I was in total disbelief that night.
 
Pinababy69 said:
When Thor and Spring Break are hot, I have seen me hit the free spins multiple times within 50 or 60 spins, and re-trigger during the bonus round. When it's lukewarm, I find they both usually hit at about 150-200 spins in. When they are ice cold, I think the longest I have gone with no bonus round is over 900 spins on Thor. I was in total disbelief that night.

thunderstruck scares the life out of me.....but when it pays, it pays!

ps..cheers for the stats pinababy :-)
 
Lots of free spins on Thunderstruck, but....

OK, I promised an update on my endeavors last night....

I deposited $350 at 32Red, played Loaded until I had about $40 left (about 200 spins) with no free spins at all....Switched to Thunderstruck and hit lots of free spins, like 4-5 times within a hundred spins, but no real payout, $50 payout tops on $2.25 bets...then hit the towers for about $200 so Thunderstruck seemed to have saved my ass and I was at $400 here. Switched back to Loaded, and played another 250 spins or so, with NO free spins or any other tangible wins at all. This was terrible. I was brought down to about $10. At this point there is not much hope usually, so I switched back to Thunderstruck and hit free spins at $0.36 bet for a $60 win, which was nice. Then decided to give loaded another chance. Big mistake. Took me down to $10 at which point I started betting $0.25 total, and of course then I got the first free spins, twice in a row, for a total win of all of $20. Then Loaded took me all the way down to zero.

Bad session apart from some bright moments on Thunderstruck. 32Red was kind enough to toss a $25 consolation bonus to my account, which I blew on Loaded with practically no wins at all.

So: Loaded truly sucked, big time. Thunderstruck was nice, but I seemed to hit all the good wins at $0.18-$0.36 so they did not amount to much. Whenever I had more than $50 in my account I bet $2.25-$4.50 but apart from that towers win did not really hit anything on those larger bets.

Cheers,
SM
 
See this is where I have to agree to disagree......

You gonna ask me why, so here goes.

Ok, I accept there are games which I have played and have had free spins but..........

I've had them before and they have paid more than what I have had recently for instance, I got free spins on Bush Telegraph and I think it was Thunderstruck and had two sets of free spins in one go but on both it only amounted to around 200 bucks, which you may say is good.

This is where I disagree, as I have had a lot more and also when you are playing 11.25 -22.50 a spin it should be much higher.

Where I have started to realise things about bet size is when I have played the above slots and others and after say 500 spins I haven't had any free spins, I lower my bet to say 4.50 and have hit free spins within the next 10-20 spins. May be just a coincidence but I have done this many times.

I am not sure if I played at 4.50 a spin and if the outcome of a profit would be the same if I say played Thunderstruck at 11.25 a spin for say 200 spins?

Like yesterday I hit the Staffs with 2 Thors on free spins and got 6000GBP's, so least it still pays good when it does.

Maybe we have to open the S-Files (Slot-Files) :D

P.S..........I hit 6k US at another casino on GoodToGo after 2k worth of play around the slots. Loaded still kills me on high bets.

:D
 
cheekymonkey said:
nice thread....
does anyone know how often, on average you should expect to hit the feature on spring break?
I reckon it's about every 130-160 spins on average for all 9-line, single feature slots.
(Spring, Ladies, Thunder, etc..)
Multiple feature slots, like Tomb Raider & What on Earth hit more frequently.

Below is another copy of the stats I compiled in June this year, for about 7-8 months of play.

Some of the samples are too small I know, but those over 5,000 spins I personally feel are fairly accurate representations...
 
I did a mega-test of about 100,000 spins on Tstruck earlier in the year. In fun mode obviously! I played about half at $9 a spin and the other half at 0.90c a spin. The average payout was around 28x the total bet (at 90c a spin), and near to 33x the total bet when playing at $9 a spin. I'm guessing with a bigger sample it would have been about the same - around 30x.

Also, there are 30 symbols per reel on Tstruck. The feature came up with an average pretty much spot-on as you'd expect - every 123 spins. Some of the time i went 800-900 spins without the feature (never over 1,000 tho) and other times had the feature hit like 4 times in 50 spins.

It was all pretty much as i expected & had worked out from the math logic. That said i'm still convinced the slot is weighted.

Still is i reckon...had a triple rollover at $6.75 for $1,068 today (good enough for 3rd spot in the Slot Junkies comp too :D)
 
KasinoKing said:
I reckon it's about every 130-160 spins on average for all 9-line, single feature slots.
(Spring, Ladies, Thunder, etc..)
Multiple feature slots, like Tomb Raider & What on Earth hit more frequently.

Below is another copy of the stats I compiled in June this year, for about 7-8 months of play.

Some of the samples are too small I know, but those over 5,000 spins I personally feel are fairly accurate representations...

thanks King - nice stats and the re-trigger on Ladies Night with FIVE scatters was a great hit :D!! - im up to about 900 spins on Ladbrokes with Spring Break without hitting any free spins, yet when i play the same game on 32Red, ive been hitting them fairly reguarly

if i play at 2 microgaming casinos in the same session, do you think microgaming account for this? i.e. im logging into 2 different casinos (obviously one after the other and not at the same time, i dont think its possible to log into into 2 or more microgaming casinos at the same though anyway) and connecting to both of them with the same IP address ?
 
I think I will have to say something is wrong.

Played my 6k I won at the start of the weeek and first on Thunderstruck I play 11.25 a spin. Never did much on two sessions of about 200-400 spins. Did get free spins but not much happened.

Then played a long session of 1300+ spins and got Free spins and then another 4 times int his but to my suprise I only got 1800, which was very low for I think 70 spins in total at triple pays.

Lost all profits. Played Loaded and it killed me dispite winning a feww good pots of 3-4.8k I think they were.

Played Jungle Jim and got killed, played Elemental and took over 400 spins for free spins. Lost to much to recover.

Now done to last 1k and not sure if it was worth playing 6k I won the other day but I will say something. The winners list is virtually empty for daily winners and I appear there a few times but no way am I winnings.

Oh well, back to the drawing board
 
you guys made me go check my stats, my most common game is of course, jungle jim my favorite, played over 10000 more spins on that game then any other, my stats are interesting it says i win more on weekdays then weekends, and i am actually won money over all on weekdays, and lost my shirt tail on weekends, i am down about 1000 dollars on jungle jim but thats betting any where from .60 to 15 dollars a spin, from mine it says the free spins come one every 112 spins, which isnt terrible if u get a 10*5
 
liquidsoap said:
you guys made me go check my stats, my most common game is of course, jungle jim my favorite, played over 10000 more spins on that game then any other, my stats are interesting it says i win more on weekdays then weekends, and i am actually won money over all on weekdays, and lost my shirt tail on weekends, i am down about 1000 dollars on jungle jim but thats betting any where from .60 to 15 dollars a spin, from mine it says the free spins come one every 112 spins, which isnt terrible if u get a 10*5


How you get your stats?

I must be missing something?
 
Bal said:
How you get your stats?
Write it down as I play then tediously enter the data onto an Excel spreadsheet!
Yes, I know that's sad :o but mostly I'm doing the WR for a bonus, so have to keep track of what I've wagered.
Don't do it quite so thoroughly these days - so don't expect any more stats with as much info from me in the future! ;)

cheekymonkey said:
thanks King - nice stats and the re-trigger on Ladies Night with FIVE scatters was a great hit :D!!
Yes it was nice! Haven't had another one since - so let's look at it again!
...
 
the free spins issue is going to put me off MG for good. Across 3 or 4 of their casinos, I have played about 1500 spins at thunderstruck and hit nothing, 1,000 spins at pollen nation and hit nothing, and a few hundred across other slots such as spring break...and hit nothing. I have often been convinced of the ability to 'tweak' these things, and have never really hit anything of note on MG slots (and have had a lot of playthrough), don't see me going back much more :rolleyes:
TN
 
just goes to show...

This ripoff number generator thing is just bullsh*t.They can turn it on and off anytime they want.I recently played at a casino where I didnt hit sh*t for $400 worth of deposits but they had a big no deposit bonus so I played there again and rang it up for $1400.Cashed it out and am going through the scan and send forms routine.hopefully I'll get paid with no problems before Christmas.I hope Santa comes through for me
 
funeralparty said:
You can't be doing that poorly, Bal........I see you are running away with the Thunderstruck tourney today:notworthy


Thanks

But you know the problem I have is that my fave games is Thunderstruck and have normally won at least 5 out of the lat 7 or 8 comps.

Also at 400x20 waging, I will need to win 8000 before I can cashout anything and at this rate, the 400 will be gone in a few minutes.

That is why I say there is problem as I could normally deposit 1-2k and and still win that comp and also would have won 2k on top of the 2k I deposited.

Yesterday I had 2500 in my balance and also deposited at least 7k with no win greater than 1800 when I would normally would have hit wins of around that at least 4-7 times but carried on playing to see if it increased. In other words win 1800 then played down to say 500 and won 1400-2000 and on and on.

I would have been able to play at least 3hours min on a 2k deposit but on my highest deposited yet, I lost the whole lot.

Make what you can out of it, but still seeing no slot winners on the winners list for the last few days, can't be just everyone was unlucky.

Think scrouge is about somewhere.

Thanks
 
a copule of days ago i had a strange on run the free spins.

was on thunderstruck, in my first 90 spins, i hit 2 lots of treble free spins (i.e. free spins within free spins within even more free spins) plus 2 lots of singular free spins, i.e. 15 each.

thus after 90 regular spins, i had 120 free spins, then didnt hit anymore for the next 1000 at which point i quit.

looks like they have streaked the slots in the same way they have streaked the BJ
 
I was hitting the feature regularly in Ladies Nite yesterday, which is unusual because they are usually few and far between for me on that game. I got the free spins 11 or 12 times in about 900 spins at .90/spin, but it never retriggered. I thought I would have hit a nice win within one of those features, but my biggest feature total was $33 :what:.
There was another time a couple months ago when I had Thunderstruck retrigger four times during one free spins round (also .90/spin). I had 75 free spins and finally hit 5 castles for $400, so it was a pretty good win. I could just dream of having that many retriggers at $45/spin, imagine the possibilities! :rolleyes:
 
There's no trigger like retrigger...

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CAUTION!!!

If you're doing well on slots these days, ignore this post and proceed to the next one.

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I thoroughly enjoy this thread, but at the moment, I don't care about the "re" if I can't get the "trigger". And even IF I do get the "trigger", it's a miracle if I get more than $12 playing Tomb Raider & Mermaids Millions in the free spin feature. Awful days on slots.


It used to be that I would generally hit the free spin feature on an average of 120-130 spins (Tomb Raider), but these days (or is it just me?), it's more like an average of 250 spins (really). What's up with that? This is pretty much at all the MG casinos (consistently bad).


When I first started playing slots (on a regular basis) several months ago, it was SO MUCH different. My worst runs without hitting a free spin feature in the first few months of playing (March-September) would come once in-a-blue-moon. Now (October-present), it's happening every 2nd-3rd hour. Am I the only one experience this bunk? :what:


At least when I used to go through 600 spins without hitting the free spin feature (back in the summer playing Tomb Raider), I could expect a pretty good return on the feature. These days... HA!!! Also (back in the day), IF I went through one of those (used-to-be-considered losing streaks, which would now be viewed as "the usual" junk), it would happen on occasion. But these days, I will go 800 spins without hitting the free spin feature, make like $15 bucks (on a .75 min bet) from the feature, then proceed to go another 600 spins without hitting the free spin feature again. It's happening far too often now. :confused:


How about not hitting anything in the free spin features? I can't tell you the amount of times I've made as little as .75 cents (with the $3.00) off those features. Or the amount of times I've done this back-to-back. Great! Wonderful! So I hit 2 free-spin features in like JUST a span of 30 spins, yet I've made $7.25 COMBINED! Excellent! :barf:


It's getting to the point, where I say "to hell-with-the-free-spin feature and it's lousy return", and where are those wonderful aztec heads. :rolleyes:


It's VERY unfortunate that this dry-spell coincides with the Slotjunkies.info tournament (which is a wonderful idea, and is fun). :(



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Even though ive been on an extended losing streak the past few month (mostly due to the eye raising "streakiness" of MG BJ), I have found that ive been hitting the free spins quite often as of late.

I find it quite interesting that there are so many posts here that mention going 500, 600, 800 or whatever spins without hitting the feature....am I the only one who goes 10 spins or so, then leaves if I hit next to nothing? I find this works quite well....I jump from slot to slot doing this and it seems to work quite well. I couldn't imagine even going 50 spins without hitting the free spins..........
 
Holy cow!

Holy cow! I don't believe it!

Earlier in this thread someone said they get a lot more free-spins in the flash casinos...
So I gave it a try!

This morning I had 3 lots of free-spins on Tomb Raider in about 40 spins!

Then just now (at 18c/spin) I hit the lovely sight below!!! :D
Yep - I got it again!!

(The free-spins only paid $3.72 - but who cares!!! :cool: )
.
 
funeralparty said:
Even though ive been on an extended losing streak the past few month (mostly due to the eye raising "streakiness" of MG BJ), I have found that ive been hitting the free spins quite often as of late.

I find it quite interesting that there are so many posts here that mention going 500, 600, 800 or whatever spins without hitting the feature....am I the only one who goes 10 spins or so, then leaves if I hit next to nothing? I find this works quite well....I jump from slot to slot doing this and it seems to work quite well. I couldn't imagine even going 50 spins without hitting the free spins..........
Personally I don't understand how anyone can only play 10 spins & leave! :eek2:
I always do a least 50 and only stop if I'm getting slaughtered!

BTW - more Holy cow!
About 65 spins after the above hit I got free-spins again - and it re-triggered!
Won just under $22 - but as I was still on 18c/spin I was more than happy with that! ;)

While I was typing this I just hit them again (after about 60 spins) - I think I could be doing a lot of flashing in the future! :D

While I was typing that it hit AGAIN!! (About 15 spins - won $22.50). WOW!
I'm going to up my bets! :thumbsup:

I'll report back later.....

{Edit} Later... Well I upped to 36c/spin and it did hit twice more in the next 86 spins - but the payoffs were crap! :(
So after a further 25 spins I decided to quit while ahead! :cool:
 
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KasinoKing said:
Holy cow! I don't believe it!

Earlier in this thread someone said they get a lot more free-spins in the flash casinos...
So I gave it a try!

This morning I had 3 lots of free-spins on Tomb Raider in about 40 spins!

Then just now (at 18c/spin) I hit the lovely sight below!!! :D
Yep - I got it again!!

(The free-spins only paid $3.72 - but who cares!!! :cool: )
.

Ooooh sweet KK :) Actually I have been playing the flash casinos via the Game Buddy too pretty much consistently at the mo and i must admit, i'm getting a lot of them too. But i'm sure its largely co-incidence.
 
Ok I think I murdered myself trying all Free Spin Games.

I done another 3k I think and got not where and then Mega spin game rescued me back to 2500.

Then playing over 2200 spins on King Cashalot I decided it wasn't gonna give me the PJP.

I then played Cabin Fever and got battered until i raised my stakes to around 50 bucks a spin and then won 5k I think it was. Played around and got to 8-9k then went around all Free Spin games and lost the lot.

I have mentioned this before but is it me or when you up or decrease what you normally bet on you seem to get Free Spins. But playing 22.50-125 a spin kills you fast and the Free Spin don't return what you put in.

I am now not sure whether to chase the 14k I have lost this last month when I had been up 5k upto October. Maybe the time change hurt my luck.

Also is 14k a big loss if on average I would normally win 2-4k a week min?

Guess my loss is due to me normally winning 500-2k by only depositing 500. I seem to hit bigger when playing bigger but this also has the downside as I explained above (playing 45-125 a spin kills ya quick)

Thanks
 
tim5ny said:
I had a nice round on Ho Ho Ho today. @.75 I got three re-trigs for a total of 80 spins and made just over a hundred dollars for the mere wager that I placed.


Wtg m8

But only, proves what I said before, the Free Spins seem to be coming more on lower bets to me too and I have won a few hundred. i was even shocked when i won 150 on CashaLot as it's my highest win on it, then again I played over 2200 spins.

Could use that 800k plus, lol

Thanks
 
KasinoKing said:
Holy cow! I don't believe it!

Earlier in this thread someone said they get a lot more free-spins in the flash casinos...
So I gave it a try!

This morning I had 3 lots of free-spins on Tomb Raider in about 40 spins!

Then just now (at 18c/spin) I hit the lovely sight below!!! :D
Yep - I got it again!!

(The free-spins only paid $3.72 - but who cares!!! :cool: )


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omg! thats a total lie!! haha oh man i've played that damn ladies night game every time I play a mg casino and I never ever EVER get the bonus spins i've never seen the bonus symbols come up! good job,dude:thumbsup:
 

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