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steveyboy

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i have noticed on some threads the word flushing,i am a casino player on the rewards group and they have a 2 day reversible banking,but weekends do not count so if you win it sits there looking at you for 4 days.i have had some fair sized wins but like some of you done the evil thing by starting reverse banking and ending up with nothing,how do you do flushing and is casino rewards one that allowd this thanks.
 
steveyboy said:
i have noticed on some threads the word flushing,i am a casino player on the rewards group and they have a 2 day reversible banking,but weekends do not count so if you win it sits there looking at you for 4 days.i have had some fair sized wins but like some of you done the evil thing by starting reverse banking and ending up with nothing,how do you do flushing and is casino rewards one that allowd this thanks.
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Any decent Casino will let you flush, usually its just a case of popping onto online chat and it is done instantly. I am not sure about Casino Rewards as I have never played there.

Personally I would steer clear of any casino that wont honour my flush requests, it should all be part of the service. Greedy casinos who deliberately delay cashouts in the hope you will reverse and lose do not deserve my business.

Raj
 
If a casino will "flush" your withdrawal, it makes so you are unable to reverse the withdrawal. You can ask on Live chat if the casino does this. If it doesn't, use self control/willpower and not play there until the withdrawal has been processed. Play at a different casino or just bide your time. The casinos who don't flush are hoping the player will play it all back, and most times this is what happens and you end up angry with yourself and the casino.
 
Palace Group (Spin Palace, Mummys Gold, Ruby Fortune) used to process flush requests just fine when asked to in the Live chat. But not anymore :(

Marc: How may I assist you today?
Me: Hi Marc. Could you flush the withdrawal I made just now?
Marc: I Jufo, Im afraid I am unable to flush your withdrawal
Me: oh why is that?
Marc: You will need to wait for the pending period to elapse
Me: ok but I have successfully flushed before
Marc: This function is set only for VIP players
Me: Ok so the information provided by your own affiliate here is wrong then:
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Me: The website lists it as: Manual Flush - yes

Marc: One moment please
Me: I don't mind but I will have to report to the affiliate in question that you don't do manual flushes anymore
Marc: Its not that we do not do manual flushes, it just this service is restricted to VIP players only Im afraid
Me: Ok I see
 
Self restraint can be hard at times.....

I remember the days before I discovered the joys of flushing...

I honestly cannot recall after reversing a withdrawl doing anything other than lose the lot :) My luck always seemed to turn BAD BAD BAD after playing with reversed winnings.....at times I almost beleived the casinos had different RTP settings for reversed withdrawls.....but suspect thats just my own paranoia!

Maybe its just me but I would much rather have the money sent to my bank, have a break for a few days and then make a fresh deposit and start again.

Has anyone got a story of a reversed withdrawl that worked out well for them and resulted in a big win afterwoods?? ...just to set my mind at rest!

Raj
 
LaHutti said:
Could it be, that some casinos are not as into "responsible gambling" as they claim they are ?
It wouldn't take an operator a second longer to flush, than to explain that they don't....wtf ?
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This is very true. They pretend to be into "responsible gambling" yet their every action entices you not to play according to "responsible gambling". The players that do stick to "responsible gambling" are the ones the casino least cares about.
 
Jufo said:
This is very true. They pretend to be into "responsible gambling" yet their every action entices you not to play according to "responsible gambling". The players that do stick to "responsible gambling" are the ones the casino least cares about.
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Of course they want you to reverse that withdrawal, then...
1)They aren't LOSING money, you are, since you've now lost your deposit money
2) They know MOST people will redeposit, so they are getting a two-for-one.
and
3) The casinos don't want people to win, they are in business to gain money, not pay it out (just my opinion)
 
raj said:
Self restraint can be hard at times.....

I remember the days before I discovered the joys of flushing...

I honestly cannot recall after reversing a withdrawl doing anything other than lose the lot :) My luck always seemed to turn BAD BAD BAD after playing with reversed winnings.....at times I almost beleived the casinos had different RTP settings for reversed withdrawls.....but suspect thats just my own paranoia!

Maybe its just me but I would much rather have the money sent to my bank, have a break for a few days and then make a fresh deposit and start again.

Has anyone got a story of a reversed withdrawl that worked out well for them and resulted in a big win afterwoods?? ...just to set my mind at rest!

Raj
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Since, apparently, this is about self control, and people having difficulties with that, I probably shouldn't say, that yes, I have reversed, not my whole withdrawals, but part of them several times, and ended up making another withdrawal. The point is tho, that if people want the casino to flush, they should just do it. It makes the casino look like they actually care about their costumers, and responsible gambling, and not just some greedy joint, hoping people are weak enough to put their winnings back right away imho.
 
@Jufo, I quite agree, but then again we are speaking of "gambling" here...
It's the "addiction" which keeps most people playing, IMO. And even reputable casinos are hoping people continue this "addiction", or else there wouldn't be so many online casinos to choose from.
 
there should be a flush button at the cashier page why should you have to ask permission [a cash-out is a cash out pretty simply ]

a predator practice is just that
 
Jufo said:
Palace Group (Spin Palace, Mummys Gold, Ruby Fortune) used to process flush requests just fine when asked to in the Live chat. But not anymore :(

Marc: How may I assist you today?
Me: Hi Marc. Could you flush the withdrawal I made just now?
Marc: I Jufo, Im afraid I am unable to flush your withdrawal
Me: oh why is that?
Marc: You will need to wait for the pending period to elapse
Me: ok but I have successfully flushed before
Marc: This function is set only for VIP players
Me: Ok so the information provided by your own affiliate here is wrong then:
Me: Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)
Me: The website lists it as: Manual Flush - yes

Marc: One moment please
Me: I don't mind but I will have to report to the affiliate in question that you don't do manual flushes anymore
Marc: Its not that we do not do manual flushes, it just this service is restricted to VIP players only Im afraid
Me: Ok I see
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This kind of response and attitude from a casino sucks. They should flush on request. The only reason a casino will NOT flush is becuase they are desperate for you to reverse and play it back. Almost like a form of glorfied begging. I recall the FortuneLounge group used to flush and got alot of my play. Then they changed the rules. Not only will they NOT flush but also any withdraws subitted after 9am on a friday morning will not be processed until the monday. Sad to say the least and my deposits since then have been 0.00.

3Dice = flush on request but not always needed as a withdraw is usually instant.

32Red - flush via liva support no sweat.

Ladbrokes - no need to flush as they dont allow you to reverse.

Palace Group must be getting desperate to have switched from flushing to no flush!
 
Rewards casinos don't flush for the regular player, never have (not sure about VIPs). Until recently they had the longest Microgaming ("MG") reverse time too at 48hrs (96 at weekends) although now Belle Rock have taken that award.

Several MG's will flush and one group (no prizes for guessing which) will reduce the reverse time to 1hr permanently for you on request. There are also a couple of MGs with no reverse time at all.
 
hi steveyboy here
furtherto my question on flushing i went to casino and there is no online help if there is i could not find it so sent email requesting please flush my withdrawal request,not had a reply as of today monday,i thought all casinos had live help i have used it on 32 red but in the 3 years i have been at golden tiger i have had no call to use live help.
 
ignore that i could not find live help its on the casino login page i was looking in wrong place thicko or what,anyway spoke to live help and told will put request through to relevant dept please allow 24 hours which is when withdrawal would not be reversable anyway still now i know how to flush see if my money comes through any quicker,thanks to everyone that posted response.
 
e-mail from casino rewards we no longer flush payments withdrawals will stay in pending allowing reverse for two days excluding sat/sun.as i have been a customer for over three years and get v.i.p bonuses you can guess how much they are in front,guess what when the v.i.p rep gets onto me about why i no longer seem to be depositing i will tell him why they are not getting anymore of my cash,bye bye casino non rewards loyalty stops when you withdraw.
 
Casinos should flush withdrawals always if they use LGA gaming license (if they are under Malta remote gaming act)

here is the casinos
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I am sure almoust all gaming licenses have add rule casinos need to flush funds when that is requested, I can say for sure Malta`s license to do so coz i have read that (several times)

Those terms and rules can be found in Link Removed ( Old/Invalid)
I think i paste few lines from those rules what casinos must accept but those docs are in PDF and in JPG form :what:

edit: One sample this is not about flushing cashouts but it is gives good picture how tights those rules are really and how much casinos cares
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I recomment everyone read those but those are only fairytales, reader find out how many things is denied to casinos. Fine`s if casino broke those rules was starting 6.000 to 255.000 dollars. Dont want to talk about BS that organisation coz in the end it is "official" place where players can make report if player lost money coz of unfair business etc

google tells...
 
I have one question about flushing. I sent a mail to CS the other day (accredited on Casinomeister) and asked them to flush my withdrawal of €1250. They replied with "thank you for the mail..blablabla...your withdrawal is now canceled and are available in your casino account". Well, thank you for that :rolleyes:

Is flushing an unknown concept for some casinos?
 
rainmaker said:
Is flushing an unknown concept for some casinos?
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In a nutshell, yes. Those casinos that don't flush have probably never had need to train their staff to understand the term. A lot of them don't know what "reverse withdrawal" means either.

Some don't need to. Wagerworks casinos and several of the UK bookmakers for example don't have a reverse pending time anyway so it's not relevant. Intercasino used not to but now I'm told they have introduced a 24hr reverse period.
 
Simmo! said:
In a nutshell, yes. Those casinos that don't flush have probably never had need to train their staff to understand the term. A lot of them don't know what "reverse withdrawal" means either.

Some don't need to. Wagerworks casinos and several of the UK bookmakers for example don't have a reverse pending time anyway so it's not relevant. Intercasino used not to but now I'm told they have introduced a 24hr reverse period.
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Thanks for a reply Simmo.

Yes, I know that some of the UK bookmakers don`t have a reverse pending option. I don`t think that Nordicbet has this option (not UK bookmaker, but an example)

My accredited casino introduced the "cancel" button last year, so players may now cancel by clicking on a button (which is quite normal). You had to contact the CS to do this before the "cancel" button appeared.

This is a big and well known Playtech casino, so I was a bit surprised that they did not know the meaning of "flushing". And that they assumed it meant to cancel my withdrawal.
 
Just my 2 cents but i think I found a way to not be able to reverse any casino winnings at casinos that wont flush.


Make a second email address. Could be any free one.

Make the password something garbled like "sdfgsdfgsdg3423542352df" you know something you wont remember but write it down on a bit of paper.


Change your casino email to this email (you may have to contact live support to change the email...but not always).

Then change your casino password to that garbled password you used for your email and have got written down.


Give that bit of paper to a friend or leave it at work until you know the "reverse time" has cleared. Then get the paper back, change passwords back.


Then of course the next time you can just change your second email password again and repeat the process.





Tried it last time with a "casino rewards" group withdraw and it worked a treat.
 
sparkz said:
Just my 2 cents but i think I found a way to not be able to reverse any casino winnings at casinos that wont flush.


Make a second email address. Could be any free one.

Make the password something garbled like "sdfgsdfgsdg3423542352df" you know something you wont remember but write it down on a bit of paper.


Change your casino email to this email (you may have to contact live support to change the email...but not always).

Then change your casino password to that garbled password you used for your email and have got written down.


Give that bit of paper to a friend or leave it at work until you know the "reverse time" has cleared. Then get the paper back, change passwords back.


Then of course the next time you can just change your second email password again and repeat the process.





Tried it last time with a "casino rewards" group withdraw and it worked a treat.
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All well and good the above but why should players have to go through these kinds of loops ? just to get money which was won paid out in a timely fashion ? 2 days pending where you can reverse is a joke, and more so if they dont flush at weekends! Like fortune lounge any player lucky enough to win after 9am on a Friday will have to wait until the monday just for the withdraw to come out of pending and then a further 24 hours before its actually paid.

ALL MG Casinos have the ability to flush but quite a few wont as they are desperatly hoping as many players as possible reverse. I can list a number of accredited MG casinos that always refuse to flush but are happy to instantly take your deposit. Ladbrokes were are the quickest at withdraws but due to @nal bonus terms I dont play there anymore.

Would be good to find a list of MG casinos that do flush on demand no questions asked ?
 
We all have our methods! in the old days when I used to play and win much higher dollars I used to take my hard drive up to my nieghbours so I couldn't reverse royal flush winnings!- Of course in those days the pending period was only 12 hours but stilll!
 
doomed4ever said:
All well and good the above but why should players have to go through these kinds of loops ? just to get money which was won paid out in a timely fashion ? 2 days pending where you can reverse is a joke, and more so if they dont flush at weekends! Like fortune lounge any player lucky enough to win after 9am on a Friday will have to wait until the monday just for the withdraw to come out of pending and then a further 24 hours before its actually paid.

ALL MG Casinos have the ability to flush but quite a few wont as they are desperatly hoping as many players as possible reverse. I can list a number of accredited MG casinos that always refuse to flush but are happy to instantly take your deposit. Ladbrokes were are the quickest at withdraws but due to @nal bonus terms I dont play there anymore.

Would be good to find a list of MG casinos that do flush on demand no questions asked ?
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That would be a short list I'm afraid.
As far as I know, only the 32RED group still does.

Betway/GNUF have an 8 hours reverse time, no flush, and usually pay the next businessday.

Ladbrokes and Purple Lounge have no reverse option, so no need to flush.

Palace Group have 24 hours reverse time, flushing is only for VIP players.

I know Red Flush/LaVida won't flush (whats in a name, lol), Casino Rewards, VPL, Fortune Lounge and Roxy Palace/Splendido all no longer flush withdrawls on request.
 
De Beuker said:
Ladbrokes and Purple Lounge have no reverse option, so no need to flush.
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PL does indeed have the reverse option but you may have to look for it a bit. They also tend to keep the cashouts reversible a very long time (up to 5 days).

Once I queried about a bonus offer from support and the result was that a cashout that had been pending for 5 days got put back to my account without my consent. :mad:
 
Jufo said:
PL does indeed have the reverse option but you may have to look for it a bit. They also tend to keep the cashouts reversible a very long time (up to 5 days).

Once I queried about a bonus offer from support and the result was that a cashout that had been pending for 5 days got put back to my account without my consent. :mad:
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Ok, I believe you, but honestly, I never found a reversebutton at PL.
But DONT tell me where it is please!!;)

They are speeding up their withdrawls lately, my last 2 were paid within 48 hours, one of them was paid on a Sunday.:eek2:
 
De Beuker said:
Ok, I believe you, but honestly, I never found a reversebutton at PL.
But DONT tell me where it is please!!;)

They are speeding up their withdrawls lately, my last 2 were paid within 48 hours, one of them was paid on a Sunday.:eek2:
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Hehe forget my post, there is no reverse button there ;)

Good to hear they are speeding up withdrawals.
 
Flushing accounts

Casino Rewards do not flush your account. Blackjack Ballroom in particular VIP or not.
They told me they can do nothing about the 48 hour wait and on the weekends it doesn't count. So it make it 4 days. I have reversed there many times much to my own disgust. I don't play there anymore. Wont take the chance too long a wait. Ladbrokes is flushed immediately you press withdraw, and 32 Red is about 4-6 hours and then its processing. Stick to the casinos that give great customer service and do what players want, not what casinos want. Its our money and we deserve to have the best.
 

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