Explosions in Manchester

[Chipkin9]

They do not quote versus from bibles.

Go back a few years and see the bombings from for example that murdered innocent woman and children in name of religion in UK and Ireland. Or does that not count. And with hostilities not far away and with chances of a closed border or united Ireland there is a good chance of trouble breaking out again. Or does that not count either.

I'm sorry, but I have to chime in.

I've seen people making comparisons between the IRA and ISIS all over the internet and it's just about getting on my tits because it shows nothing but ignorance!

The RA were not carrying out these acts in the name of religion, whereas it appears to be the case with ISIS. The RA's attacks were coordinated and not random attacks on innocent civilians. They did not intentionally target civilians, but the British security forces.

If you are not aware (Please also no-one think I'm defending violence), when the IRA were coordinating their attacks on infrastructure or security forces, they at least had the conscience to inform the Brits so every effort could be made to avoid innocent people being hurt or injured.

There has been one time I can recall the IRA deliberately targeting civilians and this was the tragic Kingsmill Massacre, when they stopped a minibus of 11 Protestant men, lined them up and shot them. You'll often hear about it in the news. But what you won't hear is why this attack happened. The night before the UVF went into the homes of 6 catholic men and shot them dead, it was known as the Reavey and O'Dowd killings.

Attacks by loyalist terrorist organizations were religious though, killing Irish people for no other reason than they were Catholic. These killings were going on long before the troubles even started, with Catholic people being burnt out of their estates and forced to live elsewhere.

Before the troubles, if you were a Catholic, you weren't allowed jobs. Housing was prioritized towards Protestants and there was just general discrimination against Catholics here because of Religion. It is this religious bigotry and sectarianism that the IRA were fighting against. For equality. So actually quiet the opposite of "in the name of religion".

The IRA have always been open to dialogue, i don't ever think we'll see the same for ISIS.

Just because the RA were Christians it doesn't mean they were fighting in the name of it, so those Parallels don't exist between the Ra and ISIS.

You would never hear about how the RA planted bombs at a Teenie Boppers concert.

Again, I do not tolerate violence of any kind and I do not condone any of the acts of atrocity carried out by the Ra.

 

[geordiecolin]

Haha!..
No, sadly mate!.
The original issue I sent.

You sent me a PM? I didn't receive it ?

 

[Playford7]

I'm sorry, but I have to chime in.

I've seen people making comparisons between the IRA and ISIS all over the internet and it's just about getting on my tits because it shows nothing but ignorance!

The RA were not carrying out these acts in the name of religion, whereas it appears to be the case with ISIS. The RA's attacks were coordinated and not random attacks on innocent civilians. They did not intentionally target civilians, but the British security forces.

If you are not aware (Please also no-one think I'm defending violence), when the IRA were coordinating their attacks on infrastructure or security forces, they at least had the conscience to inform the Brits so every effort could be made to avoid innocent people being hurt or injured.

There has been one time I can recall the IRA deliberately targeting civilians and this was the tragic Kingsmill Massacre, when they stopped a minibus of 11 Protestant men, lined them up and shot them. You'll often hear about it in the news. But what you won't hear is why this attack happened. The night before the UVF went into the homes of 6 catholic men and shot them dead, it was known as the Reavey and O'Dowd killings.

Attacks by loyalist terrorist organizations were religious though, killing Irish people for no other reason than they were Catholic. These killings were going on long before the troubles even started, with Catholic people being burnt out of their estates and forced to live elsewhere.

Before the troubles, if you were a Catholic, you weren't allowed jobs. Housing was prioritized towards Protestants and there was just general discrimination against Catholics here because of Religion. It is this religious bigotry and sectarianism that the IRA were fighting against. For equality. So actually quiet the opposite of "in the name of religion".

The IRA have always been open to dialogue, i don't ever think we'll see the same for ISIS.

Just because the RA were Christians it doesn't mean they were fighting in the name of it, so those Parallels don't exist between the Ra and ISIS.

You would never hear about how the RA planted bombs at a Teenie Boppers concert.

Again, I do not tolerate violence of any kind and I do not condone any of the acts of atrocity carried out by the Ra.

Absolutely great post. There is no sane person that can compare the IRA to Isis.
Kudos for this post.
Both committed terrible crimes, that can't be denied ever.
But Isis and the ira are totally different, this coming from a man who joined the marines in the uk.

 

[lockinlove]

I disagree on that one Colin. I feel that the concert took place way too soon in the recent aftermath of the Manchester bombings and recent upheaval in London. Putting on a front is one thing but I feel it's been brushed under the carpet.

I also doubt that she did this out of love or solidarity for the people of Manchester, nor do I think she was ever in danger at the original concert. It was a chance for some sycophantic backslapping and profile- raising for all artists concerned, who even appeared more concerned for their mate Ariana on social media. That was at the forefront of their thoughts, not the victims.

She's no angel either. It wasn't that long ago that she was quoted as saying she wished her fans would 'f*cking die'. Yet she is revered as Mother Teresa and held up as some sort of role model to many of her sub-10 year old fans in attendance.

The whole event was a distraction and a sham.

Exactly.

Its time to get tough enough of this blow up kids and whoever else in the name of religion and then a few days later everyone forgives and forget. Like whats it going to take? People need to be getting angry and politicians need to start doing something, anything to at least try and deter some of this crap.

I remember I went to CNN to check the headlines of what was going on. Guess what was at the very top

Ariana grande upset with attack

then below

parents mourn loss of their children
8 year old killed.

yeah lets all cater to these liberal celebs and make them feel better instead of the people who actually lost their kids.

This world is a mess. And im sick of it! Ive blacklisted bonanza and next its going to be watching or reading the news!

 

[paul7388]

I'm sorry, but I have to chime in.

I've seen people making comparisons between the IRA and ISIS all over the internet and it's just about getting on my tits because it shows nothing but ignorance!

The RA were not carrying out these acts in the name of religion, whereas it appears to be the case with ISIS. The RA's attacks were coordinated and not random attacks on innocent civilians. They did not intentionally target civilians, but the British security forces.

If you are not aware (Please also no-one think I'm defending violence), when the IRA were coordinating their attacks on infrastructure or security forces, they at least had the conscience to inform the Brits so every effort could be made to avoid innocent people being hurt or injured.

There has been one time I can recall the IRA deliberately targeting civilians and this was the tragic Kingsmill Massacre, when they stopped a minibus of 11 Protestant men, lined them up and shot them. You'll often hear about it in the news. But what you won't hear is why this attack happened. The night before the UVF went into the homes of 6 catholic men and shot them dead, it was known as the Reavey and O'Dowd killings.

Attacks by loyalist terrorist organizations were religious though, killing Irish people for no other reason than they were Catholic. These killings were going on long before the troubles even started, with Catholic people being burnt out of their estates and forced to live elsewhere.

Before the troubles, if you were a Catholic, you weren't allowed jobs. Housing was prioritized towards Protestants and there was just general discrimination against Catholics here because of Religion. It is this religious bigotry and sectarianism that the IRA were fighting against. For equality. So actually quiet the opposite of "in the name of religion".

The IRA have always been open to dialogue, i don't ever think we'll see the same for ISIS.

Just because the RA were Christians it doesn't mean they were fighting in the name of it, so those Parallels don't exist between the Ra and ISIS.

You would never hear about how the RA planted bombs at a Teenie Boppers concert.

Again, I do not tolerate violence of any kind and I do not condone any of the acts of atrocity carried out by the Ra.

Sorry in no way did i ever say ISIS and the IRA and UVF were the same.

I hate everything to do with ISIS and their fucked up ideas on life.

It was an example on terrorism in UK.

But to say IRA have only once deliberately targeted civilians and would never have targeted a concert.

So the bombs in undergrounds and train stations. In parks , pubs ,hotels, city centres etc. all in UK did not target civilians. Whether or not warning was giving or not they were deliberate attacks causing death and injury to hundreds including children. The IRA have caused the biggest bomb blast in Manchester since the war.

Whatever their motive and whether they were fighting a just cause or not is irrelevant. Fact is they have caused a hell of a lot of damage over the years and to say they never targeted civilians is way of the mark.

But anyway i just hope somehow we manage to deal with the threat thats threatening the whole country now with this new wave of muslim attacks. But i seriously think there is no chance in hell.

 

[Chipkin9]

Sorry in no way did i ever say ISIS and the IRA and UVF were the same.

I hate everything to do with ISIS and their fucked up ideas on life.

It was an example on terrorism in UK.

But to say IRA have only once deliberately targeted civilians and would never have targeted a concert.

So the bombs in undergrounds and train stations. In parks , pubs ,hotels, city centres etc. all in UK did not target civilians. Whether or not warning was giving or not they were deliberate attacks causing death and injury to hundreds including children. The IRA have caused the biggest bomb blast in Manchester since the war.

Whatever their motive and whether they were fighting a just cause or not is irrelevant. Fact is they have caused a hell of a lot of damage over the years and to say they never targeted civilians is way of the mark.

But anyway i just hope somehow we manage to deal with the threat thats threatening the whole country now with this new wave of muslim attacks. But i seriously think there is no chance in hell.

My apologies then.

But you made the statement "In the name of Religion" when mentioning the IRA's activities, which simply isn't true at all. In fact the IRA were a secular organization, with even protestants within their ranks.

They did cause a lot of damage. That was their agenda by targeting infrastructure. Not wanting to go around in circles by me saying, "But they didn't intentionally target civilians" and you replying "But they bombed pubs and hotels where they knew there would be people and innocent people were killed", I'll just say that I agree with you that innocent people were wrongly killed.

Anyway. As you said, let's hope the UK can tackle this problem and send them all to allah before anymore innocent people blood is spilled. I personally doubt it though.

One note. How come Theresa May wants to clamp down on the internet? It's not the Internet's fault these attacks happened.

The IRA were not using the internet and hit Britain on several occasions. Had they have been communicating their plans on the internet, then some of the attacks could have been prevented.

I don't see the sense, just an opportunist remark to strip away British rights and privacy coming from her gob.

 

[spintee]

My apologies then.

But you made the statement "In the name of Religion" when mentioning the IRA's activities, which simply isn't true at all. In fact the IRA were a secular organization, with even protestants within their ranks.

They did cause a lot of damage. That was their agenda by targeting infrastructure. Not wanting to go around in circles by me saying, "But they didn't intentionally target civilians" and you replying "But they bombed pubs and hotels where they knew there would be people and innocent people were killed", I'll just say that I agree with you that innocent people were wrongly killed.

Anyway. As you said, let's hope the UK can tackle this problem and send them all to allah before anymore innocent people blood is spilled. I personally doubt it though.

One note. How come Theresa May wants to clamp down on the internet? It's not the Internet's fault these attacks happened.

The IRA were not using the internet and hit Britain on several occasions. Had they have been communicating their plans on the internet, then some of the attacks could have been prevented.

I don't see the sense, just an opportunist remark to strip away British rights and privacy coming from her gob.

Correct and what they should be doing is targeting Mosque's, prisons, schools

Do you really think alot of the community does not know whats going on, the attack a few weeks ago someone was talking to one of them in charge of the Mosque and he said that the one who caused the damage did seem strange, yet when ask did they report him he said he belives a high up fellow member of the Mosque did, than when ask again what did they say he replied I do not know as we did not communicate about it all I know he informed the police and so now it was in the police hands

And there is the problem, we did not communicate, they knew dam well something was up yet kept quiet,

Than there are the prisons, these are a heaven for conversion to iislam, yet goverment is not stopping this and all you have to see is you tube videos on you tube that prisons are un guarded (so to speak)

Than there are the schools, not only are they just schools for there relgion but also trying to bring it in to main stream schools, again some have even been closed down which was funded by the government

Any one that has any know association with theses animals should be locked up as well if it comes to light they even knew any thing about what was going on, let it be sister brother uncle or a friend than they should face the same consequence and hopefully this would bring alot more information forward

This is the only way to sort this mess out. No prison just shiped out the country, forget about peoples rights as what right have we when we getting blown up every week?

Any body that leaves the country that is suspected of of this hate crime or suspected for good reason should be locked out.

Better still get someone with a few brain cells in charge of No14

 

[goatwack]

Exactly.

Its time to get tough enough of this blow up kids and whoever else in the name of religion and then a few days later everyone forgives and forget. Like whats it going to take? People need to be getting angry and politicians need to start doing something, anything to at least try and deter some of this crap.

I remember I went to CNN to check the headlines of what was going on. Guess what was at the very top

Ariana grande upset with attack

then below

parents mourn loss of their children
8 year old killed.

yeah lets all cater to these liberal celebs and make them feel better instead of the people who actually lost their kids.

This world is a mess. And im sick of it! Ive blacklisted bonanza and next its going to be watching or reading the news!

Please don't watch CNN

 

[spintee]

I forgot to mention we are all racist , here is my old granddad that is passed away now that was with the IRA and me with my ex girl, OH sorry and another with one my mates,

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[slotplayer]

The problem is the left insists on absolute tolerance even in cases that require zero tolerance.

 

[wbritton]

June 6 1944 Semper Fi

June 6th 1944 Semper Fi

 

[lockinlove]

Whats incredibly disturbing aside from the 3 terror attacks in the past 3 months in the UK, There could have been 5 others but agencies caught them before they were acted out.

I see Theresa May made a speech saying enough is enough and they are too tolerant with extremism. Oh you dont say. Well lets see what happens because anyone can talk tough.

 

[ternur]

The problem is the left insists on absolute tolerance even in cases that require zero tolerance.

The problem is both left and right intentionally use red herrings to shift focus in discussions of terrorism to better serve their political agenda.

 

[slotplayer]

The problem is both left and right intentionally use red herrings to shift focus in discussions of terrorism to better serve their political agenda.

The left is the worst, they try and shut down any discussion by using words like racism, phobia, profiling, fear mongering, etc.
We saw it with Trumps travel ban. We see it time and time again (in the US) with any discussion of illegal immigration.

 

[spintee]

Whats incredibly disturbing aside from the 3 terror attacks in the past 3 months in the UK, There could have been 5 others but agencies caught them before they were acted out.

I see Theresa May made a speech saying enough is enough and they are too tolerant with extremism. Oh you dont say. Well lets see what happens because anyone can talk tough.

fuck all will happen my friend, its just BS talk as per before the elections

I have found another video and I was amazed, at first I thought she was talking shit but no, whact and listen to see and take note this shit is not even from any one in the U.K

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sySNPDLW6rU&list=LLd3ltA69K4hAg52kpHwa6OA&index=1

 

[lockinlove]

fuck all will happen my friend, its just BS talk as per before the elections

I have found another video and I was amazed, at first I thought she was talking shit but no, whact and listen to see and take note this shit is not even from any one in the U.K

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sySNPDLW6rU&list=LLd3ltA69K4hAg52kpHwa6OA&index=1

Well if the police dont do anything, which I dont know if thats true or not but lets say it is, we all know how this is going to play out. People are going to start taking things into their own hands. There is going to be a huge increase in violence as citizens become fed up with islam. We already see aggressive groups forming and if police are taking freedom of speech and whatever else away, people wont put with that very long.

I posted it earlier but its happening in Canada. The liberals are passing a bill to protect islam here. When the opposing party suggested instead of making a bill to just protect islam, why not make it for christianity and Judaism too, it was denied.

We havent seen an increase in violence here. Well there has been a few things but not a steady increase. Some Canadians left a pigs head in front of a mosque here and killed 6 muslims but that was just a one off. Canadians seem to do pretty well with speaking with their votes and there is literally no way the liberal government will be re-elected here. The premier has the lowest approval in history and the prime ministers approval rating has been cut in half. Now thats not all to do with the muslim stuff, it has to do with them creating new taxes, raising hydro and other things too.

 

[goatwack]

So Theresa May has vowed to 'rip up' human rights laws, just a couple of days before the election. Of course that sounds great, but come her first proper term nothing will change of course.

There's 20,000+ Jihadis in the UK, and that's a conservative estimate

You cannot track & monitor them all, simultaneously. Also, its a two-pronged war with not only terrorist extremists but their partners in crime, the leftist brigade who are intent on enabling them to carry out these atrocities, and shutting down discourse and the rights of the everyman.

Turns out one of the sick loons had had a programme made about their ISIS allegiance whilst residing in the UK. Where was the knock on the door by the security forces? Where was the deportation order?

Whilst under surveillance and openly preaching hate, those mosques where they are allowed to blend in ought to be outright shut down so that no more others fall under their poisonous influence.

 

[spintee]

Well if the police dont do anything, which I dont know if thats true or not but lets say it is, we all know how this is going to play out. People are going to start taking things into their own hands. There is going to be a huge increase in violence as citizens become fed up with islam. We already see aggressive groups forming and if police are taking freedom of speech and whatever else away, people wont put with that very long.

I posted it earlier but its happening in Canada. The liberals are passing a bill to protect islam here. When the opposing party suggested instead of making a bill to just protect islam, why not make it for christianity and Judaism too, it was denied.

We havent seen an increase in violence here. Well there has been a few things but not a steady increase. Some Canadians left a pigs head in front of a mosque here and killed 6 muslims but that was just a one off. Canadians seem to do pretty well with speaking with their votes and there is literally no way the liberal government will be re-elected here. The premier has the lowest approval in history and the prime ministers approval rating has been cut in half. Now thats not all to do with the muslim stuff, it has to do with them creating new taxes, raising hydro and other things too.

take it from me, things are going to turn sour here and I will be the first to admit I will be up front

So Theresa May has vowed to 'rip up' human rights laws, just a couple of days before the election. Of course that sounds great, but come her first proper term nothing will change of course.

There's 20,000+ Jihadis in the UK, and that's a conservative estimate

You cannot track & monitor them all, simultaneously. Also, its a two-pronged war with not only terrorist extremists but their partners in crime, the leftist brigade who are intent on enabling them to carry out these atrocities, and shutting down discourse and the rights of the everyman.

Turns out one of the sick loons had had a programme made about their ISIS allegiance whilst residing in the UK. Where was the knock on the door by the security forces? Where was the deportation order?

Whilst under surveillance and openly preaching hate, those mosques where they are allowed to blend in ought to be outright shut down so that no more others fall under their poisonous influence.

Absolute rubbish she speaks, that would soon change if she is elected, not only that but the BBC is paying somebody in the islamic cummity to be on there programs, Chec out this video, It does not say he is getting paid but see the video and tell me other wise


www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffRiUQPgDYo&t=177s

 

[Mouche12]

Whats incredibly disturbing aside from the 3 terror attacks in the past 3 months in the UK, There could have been 5 others but agencies caught them before they were acted out.

I see Theresa May made a speech saying enough is enough and they are too tolerant with extremism. Oh you dont say. Well lets see what happens because anyone can talk tough.

That's good because she has to make up for her past record of police cuts. In a speech on 4 June, Jeremy Corbyn declared: "You cannot protect the public on the cheap. The police and security services must get the resources they need, not 20,000 police cuts. Theresa May was warned by the Police Federation but she accused them of 'crying wolf'".

More police in the streets is definitely needed.

 

[spintee]

That's good because she has to make up for her past record of police cuts. In a speech on 4 June, Jeremy Corbyn declared: "You cannot protect the public on the cheap. The police and security services must get the resources they need, not 20,000 police cuts. Theresa May was warned by the Police Federation but she accused them of 'crying wolf'".

More police in the streets is definitely needed.

All politicians talk bollocks, Only person that told the truth and even than people was moaning b4 he became in charge and thats Trump, he does not need to be president but he did so to do whats right for the people of America, Take a look at the record of U.K rubbissh, cutting out on police and and emergency calls, Doctors and the whole shebang, Yet they claim false money, Our money on ticket fairs and hotels yet they own many own abodes and rent out to own family (as they ever was rented)

Fix up get shit sorted or there will be trouble

 

[TheAddict]

Theresa did use a firm tone when suggesting enough is enough. Maybe not quite as powerful and shiver inducing as perhaps if it were blade addressing another vampire situation but definately up there with a deputy headmaster giving a good scorning to some kids. Relax Yo, She got this.

 

[lockinlove]

All politicians talk bollocks, Only person that told the truth and even than people was moaning b4 he became in charge and thats Trump, he does not need to be president but he did so to do whats right for the people of America, Take a look at the record of U.K rubbissh, cutting out on police and and emergency calls, Doctors and the whole shebang, Yet they claim false money, Our money on ticket fairs and hotels yet they own many own abodes and rent out to own family (as they ever was rented)

Fix up get shit sorted or there will be trouble

The problem with the liberals, is they count on the muslim community for their votes to stay in power. If they dare speak ill of them, they fear they will lose the votes and therefore the opposing parties would be elected or the upper hand since most elections are fairly close. Out of all muslims in Canada, 80% of them voted liberal and 10% NDP and 1% conservative.

When asked the question if they want to adopt Canadian customs. 47% voted no.

When Canadians were polled about muslims refugees. 72% voted that they do not approve of it and would like that money spent on Canadians who are struggling. The media's response. Was to call that islamophobia and a pandemic in Ontario.

 

[syrus2]

IRAN Got ATTACK TODAY

ISIS claims responsibility for those attacts .

suicide bombers and gunmen stormed Iran's parliament and strt and start killing people.

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Interesting ,, i did'nt know that all those Iranians are Christians !!

 

[goatwack]

IRAN Got ATTACK TODAY

ISIS claims responsibility for those attacts .

suicide bombers and gunmen stormed Iran's parliament and strt and start killing people.

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Interesting ,, i did'nt know that all those Iranians are Christians !!

I'm Iranian and Christian. So that's one already

 

[Playford7]

That's good because she has to make up for her past record of police cuts. In a speech on 4 June, Jeremy Corbyn declared: "You cannot protect the public on the cheap. The police and security services must get the resources they need, not 20,000 police cuts. Theresa May was warned by the Police Federation but she accused them of 'crying wolf'".

More police in the streets is definitely needed.

No matter how many police you have on the streets in the uk armed or not absolutely will not solve the problem of Islamic terror not one tiny bit. Islam and Muslims are the problem, and there communities are the ones that have to address this, yet they never have and never will because they all read from the same book.

 

[Sovietsky]

IRAN Got ATTACK TODAY

ISIS claims responsibility for those attacts .

suicide bombers and gunmen stormed Iran's parliament and strt and start killing people.

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Interesting ,, i did'nt know that all those Iranians are Christians !!

Yeah, Iran and IS are not good freinds exactly.

The last comment was retarded though.

 

[syrus2]

Yeah, Iran and IS are not good freinds exactly.

The last comment was retarded though.

Realy ?

I thought ISIS killing people bcuz of religion.

My mistake then !!

 

[Playford7]

Realy ?

I thought ISIS killing people bcuz of religion.

My mistake then !!

Nothing you have said on this subject has any merit.

 

[syrus2]

Nothing you have said on this subject has any merit.

Sometimes you gonna end uo with an egg in your face.
get over it fella .

 

[Playford7]

Sometimes you gonna end uo with an egg in your face.
get over it fella .

I rest my case....

 

[syrus2]

I rest my case....

OH, you did that long time ago .
Hence , i gave you ten years in our previous conversation.

lets say , you look like sumone who's making this frothy milk by putting powder in a jar and shaking it up and imagining that it's foaming.

 

[Playford7]

OH, you did that long time ago .
Hence , i gave you ten years in our previous conversation.

lets say , you look like sumone who's making this frothy milk by putting powder in a jar and shaking it up and imagining that it's foaming.

Are you one of those people who deposit's using the esteemed 'camel' as currency?..
That would explain your babblings instantly.

 

[syrus2]

Are you one of those people who deposit's using the esteemed 'camel' as currency?..
That would explain your babblings instantly.

NO, No, I'm one of those peole who knows (mutch better than you), that 90 percent of terror attac's has nothing to do with religion.
but politics !!

If you wanna beat your enemy, you gonna have to get to know him and use your common sense.

And stop thinking with your ars and focus on your emotions (as you do).

But, looks like talking to you is the same as walking in to the land of Valhalla, to mess up with few bitches from your own backyard.

Which is also fun !!

 

[Playford7]

NO, No, I'm one of those peole who knows (mutch better than you), that 90 percent of terror attac's has nothing to do with religion.
but politics !!

If you wanna beat your enemy, you gonna have to get to know him and use your common sense.

And stop thinking with your ars and focus on your emotions (as you do).

But, looks like talking to you is the same as walking in to the land of Valhalla, to mess up with few bitches from your own backyard.

Which is also fun !!

It's Islam. That's the problem. No place in western civilisation at all, never have never will. History will repeat itself as it always does.
Have a fine evening.

 

[syrus2]

It's Islam. That's the problem. No place in western civilisation at all, never have never will. History will repeat itself as it always does.
Have a fine evening.

kid,

I was 12 years old and my father got shot right before my eyes.
sleeping with a gun under my bed, in the fear of they may come back to take my mother.

And the one who did it was a Muslim.

And you get your lazy ars down here to tell me who dangerous islam is. ??

Did you even read post nr : 173 ??

put the crack pipe down and get sum rest , looks like you need it.

 

[Playford7]

kid,

I was 12 years old and my father got shot right before my eyes.
sleeping with a gun under my bed, in the fear of they may come back to take my mother.

And the one who did it was a Muslim.

And you get your lazy ars down here to tell me who dangerous islam is. ??

Did you even read post nr : 173 ??

put the crack pipe down and get sum rest , looks like you need it.

I think you need to simmer down and address me in the manner I do you.
Kid? Excuse me?.. you have no idea of my past or in which places I have served.
So please get off that horse so high in which you ride.
Islam is fundamentally the most dangerous religion threatening my shores, I'm sorry but that's facts.
I for one as a British man feel threatened by that medieval idiology. We don't have a Jew, a Sikh, a catholic or a Christian threatening Britain in the way the Islamic culture does. It's zero tolerant, it doesn't integrate and its teaching provide hate to the western world and the way its people live.
I've read the Koran, I can site many a verse that confirms this. But that's futile.
I don't wish to have any sort of bad feeling with you, but the way in which you reply makes no sense and has no meanings.

 

[syrus2]

I think you need to simmer down and address me in the manner I do you.
Kid? Excuse me?.. you have no idea of my past or in which places I have served.
So please get off that horse so high in which you ride.
Islam is fundamentally the most dangerous religion threatening my shores, I'm sorry but that's facts.
I for one as a British man feel threatened by that medieval idiology. We don't have a Jew, a Sikh, a catholic or a Christian threatening Britain in the way the Islamic culture does. It's zero tolerant, it doesn't integrate and its teaching provide hate to the western world and the way its people live.
I've read the Koran, I can site many a verse that confirms this. But that's futile.
I don't wish to have any sort of bad feeling with you, but the way in which you reply makes no sense and has no meanings.

Still, do'nt get my point. looks like it's a long way with ya .

No one denies that, I know i do'nt anyway .

What you do'nt understand is, this is not about you and your feelings.
A real terrorist is not gonna have a chat with you about religion ( islam ) to make himself suspect.

As long as you focus on your emotions and feelings, you can'nt find him.
Bcuz anybody who says bad things about islam will approved by you mark as a non terrorist .

You gonna have to open your eyes in order to find the right person.

We have work to do and we gonna have to fight aginst this devil.

So, use your common sense and open your eyes and ears.
try to get to know your enemy bcuz this way you can cach him .

anyway ,
gonna take off, on my way to my work.

enjoy your evening and get sum rest.

 

[Playford7]

Still, do'nt get my point. looks like it's a long way with ya .

No one denies that, I know i do'nt anyway .

What you do'nt understand is, this is not about you and your feelings.
A real terrorist is not gonna have a chat with you about religion ( islam ) to make himself suspect.

As long as you focus on your emotions and feelings, you can'nt find him.
Bcuz anybody who says bad things about islam will approved by you mark as a non terrorist .

You gonna have to open your eyes in order to find the right person.

We have work to do and we gonna have to fight aginst this devil.

So, use your common sense and open your eyes and ears.
try to get to know your enemy bcuz this way you can cach him .

anyway ,
gonna take off, on my way to my work.

enjoy your evening and get sum rest.

If you had the manners and intellect to compose a decent response I'd listen, as hidden in you ramblings are a few decent points. Enjoy work, it sets a man free

 

[Mouche12]

No matter how many police you have on the streets in the uk armed or not absolutely will not solve the problem of Islamic terror not one tiny bit. Islam and Muslims are the problem, and there communities are the ones that have to address this, yet they never have and never will because they all read from the same book.

This includes security services which are also very important in preventing any attacks as much as possible - but my main point is that for a conservative party leader who promises to tackle this nasty problem her past conduct towards the UK's police force (including security services) which resulted in major cuts, is quite inconsistent with her promises today.

 

[syrus2]

If you had the manners and intellect to compose a decent response I'd listen, as hidden in you ramblings are a few decent points. Enjoy work, it sets a man free

I guss i did'nt had the right education, then .

But for you,

gonna make a exception.

sorry to hurt you. was not my attention.
I buy you a suit, for the sake of peace.

 

[Playford7]

This includes security services which are also very important in preventing any attacks as much as possible - but my main point is that for a conservative party leader who promises to tackle this nasty problem her past conduct towards the UK's police force (including security services) which resulted in major cuts, is quite inconsistent with her promises today.

I'll be voting conservative. No way could I see Diane abbot in as home security, and nor could I watch trident be scrapped. Baring in mind this immigration mess was caused by Blair the liar, labour are a farce.
I see may's failures and I hear what your saying totally, but may is the better of 2 evils.

 

[Playford7]

I guss i did'nt had the right education, then .

But for you,

gonna make a exception.

sorry to hurt you. was not my attention.
I buy you a suit, for the sake of peace.

That's a lovely gesture.
Saville row if possible.
And I'm not hurt, I'm glad your able to voice your free speech.

 

[syrus2]

That's a lovely gesture.
Saville row if possible.
And I'm not hurt, I'm glad your able to voice your free speech.

It's more than that !!

Do not let you get manipulated by media. People like you are a perfect target for terrorists. ( no offence )
they use you in order to cover their ars until the day they accomplish their mission.

A terrorist needs time/preparation/schedule and a safe environment to get things ready.
All he has to do is hire a room as your neighbor / invite your for dinner in his house for couple of times/ pronounce sum ugly stuff about islam / visit the church a few times to show you that he is an peaceful Christian.
and all of this to give you the impression that he is a peaceful man ( good guy ).

And people who are too emotional and blinded by their feelings and emotions, (not to mention their lack of knowledge about terrorism which also plays an important factor ) ,, they just buy it.

I did show you a youtube Fmt about Muslims march on street , saying we love Manchester, in one of my previous posts. Why do you think I did that?
1-to show you that not all Muslims are bad people and evil.
2-I was hoping you understand that , the perpetrator of next terror attac could be out there marching on street just to show the rest that he is an good guy.
Or, he could be sitting right next to you in a church praying for Jesus.

I don't expect that some how , you turn in an experienced anti-terrorism expert.
But you make a part of this society. and it's important to keep your eyes open and use your common sense.

Bcuz, one phone-call from you to the potitie can be the call which prevent the next disaster.

Sometimes you are looking for a lion in the hole of a rat. not realizing, he is standing right behind you.

We are fighting against evil brother, it's important we work together.


Next time I visit UK , gonna buy you a pint and a Saville row suit . it's a deal .

Bed time for me !! Good night .

 

[interlog]

Let me start off with saying that I am far from a troll, a racist or somebody that blatantly attempts to cause dissension and argument on the forums. These accusations are still to be seen so I think it is only right to state that I disagree with that wrongly made judgement. When I learned that I was banned, I was surprised. Surprised that there was no warning given first, considering the amount of time that I spent on the forums over these years. I am glad to subsequently read that it wasn’t just me that found the ban a little harsh. I am glad that it didn’t stop the topic continuing and that the discussion about these terrorists and their faith continued.

The irony is that some days after I was banned yet again some Muslims (and yes, that is what they are - just stating a fact) killed more people on the streets of England. Then a few days later an attack on a police officer in France and then some more atrocities in Iran just yesterday.

And people wonder why I made that statement that got me banned? It was just a single sentence in a number of posts that when reading as a whole there is not a lot wrong with what I said. In other words, it was taken totally out of context in my opinion, hence why I feel the ban was so unjust.

I said that the Human Rights Act doesn't always help in dealing with these people. The same has now been said by the Prime Minister. Does that make her a troll, a racist or a person that causes argument and division?

I got one of my friends who happen to be a Muslim reading my posts and he was astonished that I was banned from the forum. He said that he doesn't need others feeling offended on his behalf as he is more than capable being offended himself. But he wasn't offended by a word that I said, because he knows that there is bad within the religion that he follows. And he also knows that I don’t suspect him to be a terrorist or a bad person because of the religion that he follows. He knows that there is a backlash against Muslims but he lays the blame firmly on those that use his religion as an excuse to terror the community. He doesn’t silence those that criticise his religion; instead he enters into a discussion with them.

I am more than happy to meet those that reported my post and banned me during the next Casinomeister meet, buy them a drink and discuss this further. I will even invite my Muslim friend along (and boy does he like a drink and a gamble!). You will then soon find out that I am not the person that I have been wrongly labelled as, but just a person concerned about Muslims causing terror similar when I was concerned about the Irish bombing mainland England back in the 80’s and 90’s. That doesn’t make me anti Muslim or anti Irish because I am intelligent enough to distinguish between the bad and the good.

 

[dunover]

Let me start off with saying that I am far from a troll, a racist or somebody that blatantly attempts to cause dissension and argument on the forums. These accusations are still to be seen so I think it is only right to state that I disagree with that wrongly made judgement. When I learned that I was banned, I was surprised. Surprised that there was no warning given first, considering the amount of time that I spent on the forums over these years. I am glad to subsequently read that it wasn’t just me that found the ban a little harsh. I am glad that it didn’t stop the topic continuing and that the discussion about these terrorists and their faith continued.

The irony is that some days after I was banned yet again some Muslims (and yes, that is what they are - just stating a fact) killed more people on the streets of England. Then a few days later an attack on a police officer in France and then some more atrocities in Iran just yesterday.

And people wonder why I made that statement that got me banned? It was just a single sentence in a number of posts that when reading as a whole there is not a lot wrong with what I said. In other words, it was taken totally out of context in my opinion, hence why I feel the ban was so unjust.

I said that the Human Rights Act doesn't always help in dealing with these people. The same has now been said by the Prime Minister. Does that make her a troll, a racist or a person that causes argument and division?

I got one of my friends who happen to be a Muslim reading my posts and he was astonished that I was banned from the forum. He said that he doesn't need others feeling offended on his behalf as he is more than capable being offended himself. But he wasn't offended by a word that I said, because he knows that there is bad within the religion that he follows. And he also knows that I don’t suspect him to be a terrorist or a bad person because of the religion that he follows. He knows that there is a backlash against Muslims but he lays the blame firmly on those that use his religion as an excuse to terror the community. He doesn’t silence those that criticise his religion; instead he enters into a discussion with them.


I am more than happy to meet those that reported my post and banned me during the next Casinomeister meet, buy them a drink and discuss this further. I will even invite my Muslim friend along (and boy does he like a drink and a gamble!). You will then soon find out that I am not the person that I have been wrongly labelled as, but just a person concerned about Muslims causing terror similar when I was concerned about the Irish bombing mainland England back in the 80’s and 90’s. That doesn’t make me anti Muslim or anti Irish because I am intelligent enough to distinguish between the bad and the good.

Welcome back mate! Look forward to that pint next Feb with you! Nothing's changed while you've been away, only today 3 muslim women muttering about a**ah slashed up with a knife a child nursery worker in London.

 

[dunover]

Still, do'nt get my point. looks like it's a long way with ya .

No one denies that, I know i do'nt anyway .

What you do'nt understand is, this is not about you and your feelings.
A real terrorist is not gonna have a chat with you about religion ( islam ) to make himself suspect.

As long as you focus on your emotions and feelings, you can'nt find him.
Bcuz anybody who says bad things about islam will approved by you mark as a non terrorist .

You gonna have to open your eyes in order to find the right person.

We have work to do and we gonna have to fight aginst this devil.

So, use your common sense and open your eyes and ears.
try to get to know your enemy bcuz this way you can cach him .

anyway ,
gonna take off, on my way to my work.

enjoy your evening and get sum rest.

What utter crap. Sorry, but it is. Read about these 3 retards shot by the Police in London - didn't exactly keep their radical views discreet and to themselves, did they?

 

[goatwack]

Let me start off with saying that I am far from a troll, a racist or somebody that blatantly attempts to cause dissension and argument on the forums. These accusations are still to be seen so I think it is only right to state that I disagree with that wrongly made judgement. When I learned that I was banned, I was surprised. Surprised that there was no warning given first, considering the amount of time that I spent on the forums over these years. I am glad to subsequently read that it wasn’t just me that found the ban a little harsh. I am glad that it didn’t stop the topic continuing and that the discussion about these terrorists and their faith continued.

The irony is that some days after I was banned yet again some Muslims (and yes, that is what they are - just stating a fact) killed more people on the streets of England. Then a few days later an attack on a police officer in France and then some more atrocities in Iran just yesterday.

And people wonder why I made that statement that got me banned? It was just a single sentence in a number of posts that when reading as a whole there is not a lot wrong with what I said. In other words, it was taken totally out of context in my opinion, hence why I feel the ban was so unjust.

I said that the Human Rights Act doesn't always help in dealing with these people. The same has now been said by the Prime Minister. Does that make her a troll, a racist or a person that causes argument and division?

I got one of my friends who happen to be a Muslim reading my posts and he was astonished that I was banned from the forum. He said that he doesn't need others feeling offended on his behalf as he is more than capable being offended himself. But he wasn't offended by a word that I said, because he knows that there is bad within the religion that he follows. And he also knows that I don’t suspect him to be a terrorist or a bad person because of the religion that he follows. He knows that there is a backlash against Muslims but he lays the blame firmly on those that use his religion as an excuse to terror the community. He doesn’t silence those that criticise his religion; instead he enters into a discussion with them.

I am more than happy to meet those that reported my post and banned me during the next Casinomeister meet, buy them a drink and discuss this further. I will even invite my Muslim friend along (and boy does he like a drink and a gamble!). You will then soon find out that I am not the person that I have been wrongly labelled as, but just a person concerned about Muslims causing terror similar when I was concerned about the Irish bombing mainland England back in the 80’s and 90’s. That doesn’t make me anti Muslim or anti Irish because I am intelligent enough to distinguish between the bad and the good.

As a fellow Londoner I agree with pretty much most of what you said, those looking in from the outside are free to make up snap judgements but when you're bang in the thick of it, it's a different kettle of fish. You just need to look at what happened in London just a few days ago, but those that call it for what it is have their speech curtailed.

Welcome back

 

[syrus2]

What utter crap. Sorry, but it is. Read about these 3 retards shot by the Police in London - didn't exactly keep their radical views discreet and to themselves, did they?

If you read my posts, i said until the day they complete their mission?
Do you realy think the one who committed 9/11attacks in stateds,
went on street and start yelling, , yeah, we are bunch of terrorist and we gonna get the plane to kill 3000 people ??

Yeah, I've read some of your posts.
you know nothing about terrorism.

People have a RIGHT to be stupid.
It's just, some people abuse that PRIVILEGE.

and you surly are one of them.




get sum rest lad , looks like someone got to you.

 

[Playford7]

Let me start off with saying that I am far from a troll, a racist or somebody that blatantly attempts to cause dissension and argument on the forums. These accusations are still to be seen so I think it is only right to state that I disagree with that wrongly made judgement. When I learned that I was banned, I was surprised. Surprised that there was no warning given first, considering the amount of time that I spent on the forums over these years. I am glad to subsequently read that it wasn’t just me that found the ban a little harsh. I am glad that it didn’t stop the topic continuing and that the discussion about these terrorists and their faith continued.

The irony is that some days after I was banned yet again some Muslims (and yes, that is what they are - just stating a fact) killed more people on the streets of England. Then a few days later an attack on a police officer in France and then some more atrocities in Iran just yesterday.

And people wonder why I made that statement that got me banned? It was just a single sentence in a number of posts that when reading as a whole there is not a lot wrong with what I said. In other words, it was taken totally out of context in my opinion, hence why I feel the ban was so unjust.

I said that the Human Rights Act doesn't always help in dealing with these people. The same has now been said by the Prime Minister. Does that make her a troll, a racist or a person that causes argument and division?

I got one of my friends who happen to be a Muslim reading my posts and he was astonished that I was banned from the forum. He said that he doesn't need others feeling offended on his behalf as he is more than capable being offended himself. But he wasn't offended by a word that I said, because he knows that there is bad within the religion that he follows. And he also knows that I don’t suspect him to be a terrorist or a bad person because of the religion that he follows. He knows that there is a backlash against Muslims but he lays the blame firmly on those that use his religion as an excuse to terror the community. He doesn’t silence those that criticise his religion; instead he enters into a discussion with them.

I am more than happy to meet those that reported my post and banned me during the next Casinomeister meet, buy them a drink and discuss this further. I will even invite my Muslim friend along (and boy does he like a drink and a gamble!). You will then soon find out that I am not the person that I have been wrongly labelled as, but just a person concerned about Muslims causing terror similar when I was concerned about the Irish bombing mainland England back in the 80’s and 90’s. That doesn’t make me anti Muslim or anti Irish because I am intelligent enough to distinguish between the bad and the good.

Welcome back mate! Look forward to that pint next Feb with you! Nothing's changed while you've been away, only today 3 muslim women muttering about a**ah slashed up with a knife a child nursery worker in London.

What utter crap. Sorry, but it is. Read about these 3 retards shot by the Police in London - didn't exactly keep their radical views discreet and to themselves, did they?

If you read my posts, i said until the day they complete their mission?
Do you realy think the one who committed 9/11attacks in stateds,
went on street and start yelling, , yeah, we are bunch of terrorist and we gonna get the plane to kill 3000 people ??

Yeah, I've read some of your posts.
you know nothing about terrorism.

People have a RIGHT to be stupid.
It's just, some people abuse that PRIVILEGE.

and you surly are one of them.




get sum rest lad , looks like someone got to you.

I've tried to tolerate you but it's at the point now where I can't take a word you say seriously.
You have no idea about terrorism one bit, you spout your cryptic bullshit without making a point.
Then decide it's funny to tell people to 'go get some rest'
Your a arsehole. Kind of like the shiny gold sherrifs badge (on doa) How your allowed to speak to others in the manner you do is shocking and beyond me.
And you get a decent member like 'interlog' banned for what?.. free speech?..
absolutely shameful.

 

[syrus2]

I've tried to tolerate you but it's at the point now where I can't take a word you say seriously.
You have no idea about terrorism one bit, you spout your cryptic bullshit without making a point.
Then decide it's funny to tell people to 'go get some rest'
Your a arsehole. Kind of like the shiny gold sherrifs badge (on doa) How your allowed to speak to others in the manner you do is shocking and beyond me.
And you get a decent member like 'interlog' banned for what?.. free speech?..
absolutely shameful.

What happened to interlog is something between him and Maxd.
Keep it that way.

Get sum rest m8, bcuz looks like you need it too .

and enjoy your evening .