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[spintee]

I would expect this is because the player (if he/she wanted to abuse the SUB) would trigger the bonus and because you have to pick a multiplier / wild reels etc on these particular games, you can close the game, lose your money elsewhere and then come back to win and cash-out with no wagering.

Wouldn't that just be like an immortal romance pick? or alot of games, I can under stand other games as you build up and each spin is individual

 

[Nicola]

Wouldn't that just be like an immortal romance pick? or alot of games, I can under stand other games as you build up and each spin is individual

On Secret of Stones you could pick two wild reels + extra wild (plus two extra multipliers if a 5 scatter trigger) giving the player a guaranteed huge win. At this point the player would close the game and lose any remaining balance to come back and play the bonus. They could then cash out with no restrictions.

IIRC it was CasinoTwitcher on one of his recent broadcasts went through all the restricted games and the reasons why.

 

[sigothx1]

Signed up, took the 100% match for the full £100. Annoyed to see a fee attached to make a deposit, no casino should be charging for that even if it is a new one. Unfortunately just like slotsmagic the games are awfully laggy, its the reason i dont deposit at slotsmagic, when the said site was JPP the games ran flawlessly unfortunately half the WMS games i tried to open didnt work, the ones that did took anywhere from 20-40 seconds to spin, 2 netent games crashed my browser, and had less, but some lag on a 1-2 bally games, solid brand but let down by this, add the deposit fees and thats enough for me to stick to my regular haunts. should pass BBF though.

 

[Leoantho]

Signed up and deposited 500 been using the mobile version everything seemed to work fine. I managed to almost triple my money do now I'm just waiting for my documents and withdrawal to be processed. The support seems a little slow though been waiting for a response for about 12 hours so far, maybe I can get an answer here instead when I went to withdraw via wire transfer I wasn't asked any of my details nor do I have any saved is this normal or was there something wrong with the mobile version?

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

On Secret of Stones you could pick two wild reels + extra wild (plus two extra multipliers if a 5 scatter trigger) giving the player a guaranteed huge win. At this point the player would close the game and lose any remaining balance to come back and play the bonus. They could then cash out with no restrictions.

IIRC it was CasinoTwitcher on one of his recent broadcasts went through all the restricted games and the reasons why.

And what would chance to actually get that be lol? I mean to get all the wild symbols and also get the best setup on SOS?

Seriously you can do this on almost all slots. Just switch between any slots as soon u trigger feature quickly exit before it says start. Continue doing this until you bust or maybe somehow miraculous manage to do the wagering. As then you would not be breaking any laws. But if you don't manage wagering and bust. Then go back and make deposits and you have lots of features waiting. BUT yeah good luck when you request withdrawal as you might have your account closed or restricted. So don't take this as a good advise. I was just giving an example.

There are many where you can build up some features or at least improve chances when u get features. This you can do legal just take the new Stardust slot from microgaming.

This is just an extreme example because I do not understand Nicole's answer why SOS and Piggy Riches is restrict or banned as to be used for bonus play. There is absolute NOTHING on these slots that you can take advantage of or use they are just random slots like many others. So why these can not be play I have no clue.... I agree in what Spintee said as well

 

[muziq]

yeah me to agree with poster above u can do this to all slots ...

i know why wish master like slots excluded even with bonus syymbol we have to pay for each spins ...

but in sos and other type games only triggering spin is payable so easy for casino to find out if there is a bonus abuse or not


know the reason to avoid DOA and bloodsuckers though

i thinky pggu is avid cus of the same reason as DOA ... huge win potential in low bet ....

 

[spintee]

On Secret of Stones you could pick two wild reels + extra wild (plus two extra multipliers if a 5 scatter trigger) giving the player a guaranteed huge win. At this point the player would close the game and lose any remaining balance to come back and play the bonus. They could then cash out with no restrictions.

IIRC it was CasinoTwitcher on one of his recent broadcasts went through all the restricted games and the reasons why.

Yes you can chose a really good feature, But the problem there is that there is still no guarantee it will pay anythink out, Near all casino now states, prolong bonus round for the purpose to clear wager than winnings will be void,

I have seen many games including springbreak? This is a clone on thunderstruck and ladies night to the dot, But again there is no mention of the other two games on no can play list?

Do casino sneak them in and hope we play a regular game? and sting us, I really do not know but they are adding more of theses games to the list at many casino,

 

[EGO]

So when you sign up you get a 100% match bonus and free spins but in the terms and conditions it says free spins are treated as free money and therefor have a max cashout of £100 , so if you take the sign up bonus and spins then play the spins right away is your whole session limited to a £100 cashout regardless of your deposit amount ??

I really love these skillonnet sites but over the last year or so they have bumped up the wagering requirements , added in slot games that don't count as much towards said wagering requirements and also the free spins having a max cashout ,
It's these over complications over bonus rules which has made me switch from a bonus player to a straight cash depositer which is a shame as i liked the extra play time bonuses provided

I mean having Netent , WMS and Microgaming all at a reduced rate of wagering is just daft , Surely if RTP is approx the same across all slots then wagering requirements should be the same , IMO this tactic is just to make the original offer ( which in truth still isn't bad ) of 20x bonus look better than it is to customers not reading the small print

If you play the free spins first before using your real money balance we will not enforce the £100 max winnings rule. As long as the Free spins were taken in conjunction with a deposit/bonus

Krystal

 

[Cassaon-casino]

The site looks very good, always a good sign. Promotional offers not too bad either: Three-tiered sign on bonus with low WR, VIP program and free spins offers.

The only caveat I have is that large wins will be paid out in installments of $10,000 per day until paid in full. I suppose this clause applies to progressive jackpot wins as well?

The maximum winning amount that a player can cash out is €10,000 every 30 days. All other winnings will be paid in monthly installments of €10,000 every 30 days. The maximum withdrawal amount per transaction is €5,000.

The maximum cashout per account is 5,000 Euros.

*A fee of €10 will be charged for wire transfers below €500.

 

[spintee]

The site looks very good, always a good sign. Promotional offers not too bad either: Three-tiered sign on bonus with low WR, VIP program and free spins offers.

The only caveat I have is that large wins will be paid out in installments of $10,000 per day until paid in full. I suppose this clause applies to progressive jackpot wins as well?

The maximum winning amount that a player can cash out is €10,000 every 30 days. All other winnings will be paid in monthly installments of €10,000 every 30 days. The maximum withdrawal amount per transaction is €5,000

The maximum cashout per account is 5,000 Euros.

*A fee of €10 will be charged for wire transfers below €500.

If jackpot's you will only receive instalments than it will be out the BBF quicker than it came in, So I dout it will have limit on JP

 

[davos11]

"If you play the free spins first before using your real money balance we will not enforce the £100 max winnings rule. As long as the Free spins were taken in conjunction with a deposit/bonus "

Krystal

So what you are saying that if the player DOES play the free spins first then their whole deposit is limited to a £100 max cashout , Even if they had made a £200 deposit ...
Can't see any warning signs about this on the site anywhere , Infact its only when questioned by a customer that you share this information , Do you not think its actually pretty important that the customer is aware of this ,

Example , You deposit £200 , get the £200 sign up bonus and the 25 free spins (that are 0.20p stake ), You win £5 off the free spins , It adds to your now balance of £405 , you open a slot playing £5 a spin , hit a 20x win and within 30 seconds have reached your maximum cashout ....

And then i bet this is where the "you have not met the wagering requirements " term is used , as the customer has not yet played through £200 x 20 WR , So essentially playing through over £4000+ (inc free spins wagering) to be able to withdraw that £100 profit ..MASSIVELY stacking the odds in your favour ..

So technically although you are saying the free spins bonus and the sign up bonus are separate with separate playthroughs and max withdrawals etc that you are infact joining the Wagering requirements from both of these bonuses together as joint Wagering rather than separate like the rest of the terms state . Therefor picking and choosing the worst possible scenarios from these terms to place upon the player .

The set up is just to convoluted with the bonus rules constantly changing during play depending on if you win or lose , if your playing with the free spins winnings or if you lose them and move into the sign up bonus money , What terms are triggered when , If your playing with the free spins money has the sign up bonus wagering been triggered yet .. , Just to much information that is not written down for the customer to see ..

If the solution to this problem is to just simply save your free spins til you have lost your original deposit or made a withdrawal from it after clearing wagering that how simple would it be to inform the customer of this .

Personally as a long time player if i start to see anything fishy or over complicated in the terms and conditions , reduced wagering contributions , max win on free spins , important information being missed out , Its a big warning sign and although i do love your games selection and easy depositing like paypal ( although again 3.5% charge for visa cards is the highest i have ever seen online ) ,
There are to many other sites out there that offer the same games , better terms/better offers ( like no wager / no max w/d free spins ) , and FREE deposits/quicker withdrawals .

 

[brianmon]

"If you play the free spins first before using your real money balance we will not enforce the £100 max winnings rule. As long as the Free spins were taken in conjunction with a deposit/bonus "

Krystal

So what you are saying that if the player DOES play the free spins first then their whole deposit is limited to a £100 max cashout , Even if they had made a £200 deposit ...

NO, she's saying "If you play the free spins first before using your real money balance we will not enforce the £100 max winnings rule" (although the wagering from any winnings would be added on to the original deposit wagering)

But I assume the rule would be enforced if the free spins were played after losing the deposit or cashing out from it.

What would happen if the free spins were played whilst wagering the deposit bonus???

while I was playing through the WR I decided to try JATBS, but when I opened the game, there were free spins waiting for me, so I just ignored them and played something else. Had I taken the free spins then, whilst in the middle of wagering, would my ultimate cashout be limited to £100??
Because a less experienced player might have just taken those free spins

 

[EGO]

"If you play the free spins first before using your real money balance we will not enforce the £100 max winnings rule. As long as the Free spins were taken in conjunction with a deposit/bonus "

Krystal

So what you are saying that if the player DOES play the free spins first then their whole deposit is limited to a £100 max cashout , Even if they had made a £200 deposit ...
Can't see any warning signs about this on the site anywhere , Infact its only when questioned by a customer that you share this information , Do you not think its actually pretty important that the customer is aware of this ,

Example , You deposit £200 , get the £200 sign up bonus and the 25 free spins (that are 0.20p stake ), You win £5 off the free spins , It adds to your now balance of £405 , you open a slot playing £5 a spin , hit a 20x win and within 30 seconds have reached your maximum cashout ....

And then i bet this is where the "you have not met the wagering requirements " term is used , as the customer has not yet played through £200 x 20 WR , So essentially playing through over £4000+ (inc free spins wagering) to be able to withdraw that £100 profit ..MASSIVELY stacking the odds in your favour ..

So technically although you are saying the free spins bonus and the sign up bonus are separate with separate playthroughs and max withdrawals etc that you are infact joining the Wagering requirements from both of these bonuses together as joint Wagering rather than separate like the rest of the terms state . Therefor picking and choosing the worst possible scenarios from these terms to place upon the player .

The set up is just to convoluted with the bonus rules constantly changing during play depending on if you win or lose , if your playing with the free spins winnings or if you lose them and move into the sign up bonus money , What terms are triggered when , If your playing with the free spins money has the sign up bonus wagering been triggered yet .. , Just to much information that is not written down for the customer to see ..

If the solution to this problem is to just simply save your free spins til you have lost your original deposit or made a withdrawal from it after clearing wagering that how simple would it be to inform the customer of this .

Personally as a long time player if i start to see anything fishy or over complicated in the terms and conditions , reduced wagering contributions , max win on free spins , important information being missed out , Its a big warning sign and although i do love your games selection and easy depositing like paypal ( although again 3.5% charge for visa cards is the highest i have ever seen online ) ,
There are to many other sites out there that offer the same games , better terms/better offers ( like no wager / no max w/d free spins ) , and FREE deposits/quicker withdrawals .

Maybe you misunderstood my reply, its says we will not enforce the £100 max winnings rule. Or to put it in another way , the winnings will only be capped to £100 if the free spins where played when your balance was either zero or lower than your recent deposit amount.

This is clear in our Bonus policy...
point 14 ) A bonus (including the bonus credited from a free spin bonus) is also considered free if your real money balance at the time you were credited the bonus is lower than your most recent deposit.

and please keep in mind our Free spins come with no wagering !

Krystal

 

[EGO]

NO, she's saying "If you play the free spins first before using your real money balance we will not enforce the £100 max winnings rule" (although the wagering from any winnings would be added on to the original deposit wagering)

But I assume the rule would be enforced if the free spins were played after losing the deposit or cashing out from it.

What would happen if the free spins were played whilst wagering the deposit bonus???

while I was playing through the WR I decided to try JATBS, but when I opened the game, there were free spins waiting for me, so I just ignored them and played something else. Had I taken the free spins then, whilst in the middle of wagering, would my ultimate cashout be limited to £100??
Because a less experienced player might have just taken those free spins

To answer your question we wouldn't enforce the max cashout condition if you were still playing with your Deposit Bonus. Our free spins payouts do not have wagering requirements. Even if you play them in the middle of redeeming an active bonus the free spins payout won't have any impact on that at all.....

Krystal

 

[muziq]

really love the casino well main reason is used 3 welcome bonus and cashed out 2 times also cashed out from the welcome package FS

docs verified (not asked but i sent any way )and payment paid in less than 3 hours on both time so that really top notch
75% contribution is fair on a 20Xbonus offer so nothing there to moan about .....

friendly customer service also and no wagering on Fs is also cool






it has some usual skill on net problems some time its hard to close the game window

and it still says unfinished game when try to close the game or try to withdraw

and another one is when u have a free spin it jus dont allow to close that window and it really blocks around ...

 

[muziq]

To answer your question we wouldn't enforce the max cashout condition if you were still playing with your Deposit Bonus. Our free spins payouts do not have wagering requirements. Even if you play them in the middle of redeeming an active bonus the free spins payout won't have any impact on that at all.....

Krystal

have still some doubts regarding this .... today from Fs i won 55 which was added to my real money i wanted to play but support said i could only withdraw 100 even if
play on so i just made it withdraw didn't tried to play and make it 100 as i don't wanna hit something big and then not able to cash out it


does it really like that or

is it like that the total win from fS is limited to 100 ie lets say i won 200 from Fs but i can only contribute to 100 an then im able to play on from that 100

jus wanted to clarify

 

[EGO]

have still some doubts regarding this .... today from Fs i won 55 which was added to my real money i wanted to play but support said i could only withdraw 100 even if
play on so i just made it withdraw didn't tried to play and make it 100 as i don't wanna hit something big and then not able to cash out it


does it really like that or

is it like that the total win from fS is limited to 100 ie lets say i won 200 from Fs but i can only contribute to 100 an then im able to play on from that 100

jus wanted to clarify

Could you please PM me your username so i can check it out for you

Thanks

 

[muziq]

Could you please PM me your username so i can check it out for you

Thanks

i already made a withdrwal and its been paid in 28 mins so thats ok

ok i will Pm u the details

 

[EGO]

have still some doubts regarding this .... today from Fs i won 55 which was added to my real money i wanted to play but support said i could only withdraw 100 even if
play on so i just made it withdraw didn't tried to play and make it 100 as i don't wanna hit something big and then not able to cash out it


does it really like that or

is it like that the total win from fS is limited to 100 ie lets say i won 200 from Fs but i can only contribute to 100 an then im able to play on from that 100

jus wanted to clarify

You didn't have any funds in your balance at the time you started to play the free spins so Support were correct , you could have only won a maximum of 100.
Hope that clarifies it...

 

[brianmon]

39. A bonus cannot be claimed if player has made a withdrawal in the last 7 days or if the player has a balance in his account of more than €1,000. We reserve the right to block bonuses in these cases.

Does that mean that as I made a withdrawal from the 1st bonus of the SUB, I now have to wait 7 days to deposit for the 2nd part of the SUB?

No comments or clarification on this clause Krystal ???

 

[EGO]

No comments or clarification on this clause Krystal ???

Thanks for bringing this one to our attention, its not relevant for DrueckGlueck has never been enforced and will be removed

 

[asadzareef89]

so after this thread, made a little deposit n got a bit lucky

till now everything ran smooth on instant play, no errors or anything. live chat was quick and helpful

now just waiting to see the verification n withdrawal times

 

[muziq]

Seems the welcome bonus only has 20X wagering and all else bonus has 50X wagering

today availed 100%matchme bonud and in terms and condition it says 20X wagering

made it to 450 then checked wagering and found that wagering 500... live chat was not available

raise my bet and lost it am not complaining about it though but will be better if its clarified

 

[spintee]

Seems the welcome bonus only has 20X wagering and all else bonus has 50X wagering

today availed 100%matchme bonud and in terms and condition it says 20X wagering

made it to 450 then checked wagering and found that wagering 500... live chat was not available

raise my bet and lost it am not complaining about it though but will be better if its clarified


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Abit of disappointment there, There Meister did state welcome bonus x20 Even that is abit cheeky on the casino side as most slots only count 75% Would of been better to state 25x and be honest as even 25x is ok,

I see no where in terms about a reload bonus?

 

[muziq]

Yes all over the site it says nothing about wagering was 50x so I didn't bother to double check

When my balance was 400+ I checked and Found it live chat was of line .. And was in a mood play so I eased my bet it a bit and lost


I don't blame the casino for that though that was my descion