DOA manipulation

syntynyt

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manipulation - not in the way of cheating. having an influence on the game type of meaning. not the perfect word, i cant think to another.

despite i hate this game, seeing the huge potential of recovering all my investment in online gambling with just 2 good features on mid bets, i still play this game VERY often. i rarely play on auto-start because is boring and i havent figured out how to make that Cheat Engine work. so i play start-stop until im going broke.

in the last sessions i observed a change when i switch the bets more often, odd things happening.
i start with Lucky Dino sessions from yesterday, 20+20b deposit, wagering met, up to 560 withdrawable but i kept playing until 0 trying to reach 1000. rarely but it happens to be greedy.

all that i write was written in a notepad file while i played, accuracy being strong enough with the numbers.

the point is, i came back to DOA while i had 50e left, playing 0.27 but mostly 0.36.
i have saw no less than 40 features maybe more from which 2 times 4 scatters, above 2h of playtime (start-stop remember), and tons of 5 of a kind, all in one session without closing the game. this sound like heaven, the missing thing was a full line of wilds. lots of wilds in features anyway but mostly in last spins, 2 wilds each hand on last reels. beside this amount of features is totally odd, 2 times ive seen 2 features one after another!!! how is this possible? i swithed the bet a lot, between coins/levels, playing the same 0.36 or 0.27 between the features.

if BETAT guys are willing to confirm/correct the numbers are more than welcomed.

because on the other side, lets take a session at guts. more than 600 spins on auto with NO feature, playing at hand after 600 stopped counting until i lost all. TONS of 2 scatters, biggest 5 of a kind with K symbol. no bet change.
guts again. played one day from 0.45 to 0.18 with only 10 balance, last 0.09 from account - 4 scatters from which i won about 100. raising to 0.90 after the feature, another one with 4 wilds - 350 balance from ZERO. bet change behavior. result - i lost all with rare and poor features leaving the game on autostart on 0.54.

videoslots, received a cashback a while ago. switching a lot between 0.09 and 0.18 just for fun. in 10 balance had 4 features with a distance between 15-25 spins. the 5th feature was 5 scatters on 0.09, first time actually. a pov here - if the game will show 5 boots, glasses or higher symbols with a wild forming the payline, then if more than 3 scatters will come will be with a wild. meaning 4 and a wild on the missing reel like we all saw a lot. this videoslots session dropped 2 times glasses with no wilds.

i dont have the necessary amount of nerves to have yet another go this time recorded, after not taking the yesterday win, just to prove that this game pay better while bets are frequently changed.

what do you guys think? i want an opinion from Kings of DOA as well. coincidence?
my take is that this game can be influenced A LOT by switching the bets AND the level/coins.

edit: also, on next casino 7 times in a row 2 scatters on autoplay. i had 5 times on guts i thought was rare to be so unlucky. is this normal?
 
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wobble33

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Hi
I posted before to win on this game its a MUST to change bet sizes after so many spins. say 50 spins 0.45p, then 75 spins 0.54p, 100 spins 0.72p. I was told to never change bet size but that is pure rubbish.

I always play auto, I just cant sit their playing manualy on this game. I have had numerous big wins x3k and 4k on this slot. but I can never ever hit a biggy when I play £1.35 or bigger. always seems to be the biggy on 0.45p.

I have hit the 5 scatters on 0.90p bet, but by the biggy I mean all the wilds. I don't think it makes any difference playing auto or manual. probally playing manual you notice a difference with been on top of the comp/laptop all the time.

I love this game, but certain casinos I have had the 5 wilds at, videoslots etc, I only won x200 off them. but I will get the big one in the end. lucky dino is the pain atm. cant buy 5 wilds on this thing at all.
 

Nate

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The patterns, the streaks and the stuff you see are normal - DOA is streaky by nature. Some days I go 30 - 40 features if I play a lot and barely see 3 Wilds lined up. Other days, it happens in the first feature... or the third.

There is no difference playing 0.90c, 0.45c, 1.80 etc. I have hit 5 Wilds on 9c, 18c, 27c, 36c, 45c, 54c, 72c, 90c, 1.35, 1.80 AND $2.25..

One thing I have seen over the years playing this Slot - Its random, it doesn't pay to chase and set a limit! If i don't hit within that frame (say 100x or 200x - up to you), I play at another Casino with the same limit. I am also happy to run along IF i double my balance or even if I win 50% more - This is bankroll to take the next session on at another Casino.

You guys ONLY see the Winning part - Don't forget about the LOSING part....

Nate
 

syntynyt

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I posted before to win on this game its a MUST to change bet sizes after so many spins. say 50 spins 0.45p, then 75 spins 0.54p, 100 spins 0.72p. I was told to never change bet size but that is pure rubbish.

yes i was told the same on another forum and i have read at one point in this forum too('stick to your plan', 'dont change the bet'). all the time i kept playing with the same bet until the end and had truly awful results. now few sessions in with betting switch behavior and already i can finally see the amount of good things happening in this slot, totally unfamiliar for me founding this strange.


Nate yes, 100x-200x is the best limit to impose and i will apply in further playtime. but only 50 balance in with 0.36 95% of session, 2h of playtime, amount of features... is not strange? in start-stop felt like was feature guarantee after each 1-2-3 minutes. feature after another? never before. 2 scatters after feature yes.
until now im pretty aware of the losing part, looking for months for the winning part meaning 5 wilds in a line.
i refuse to believe is random the way of betting. yes it should be. in months of almost daily chances i was starring at the screen looking for 3 scatters, a rare event that make me lost nerves, money and time watching a bad movie. this is what i hated the most in this game, beside finally seeing the third scatter landing, just to drop one wild and done. more features, more chances to catch the wilds and i havent had before in autoplay/same bet more than usual up to 4 features in a good day per hundreds of spins session. my memories goes 3 months back while i switched the bets a lot for the sake of doing something and had pretty similar results but didnt gave any importance to what caused the good run.

when i will come back to this thread with another post will be with a compiled video if my theory will be proved in further sessions.
 

dave1888

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I agree with Nate Doa extremely streaky and the nutty thing is one day you can go on this game at 27p-36p with only £10-15 hit the feature and it's the mother-load! Other times hundreds of money blown on this game it's the nature of Dead or Alive! One of the craziest examples I have is I played it for first time at superlenny 27p bets my first feature I got all 5 wilds! Won £412 even more insane is this was my second time in a fortnight! Like spend years getting this and it occurs twice in a fortnight! I'm still to see 5 scatters but again can happen at any time someone I know got 5 scatters after winning 4quid on mega joker he went on DOA at 9p bets and hit the 5 scatters within 50 spins :)! DOA is about patience put in the time and the slot pays in spades but as Nate said above if you double your balance or get a win of 3-400x your bet leave and put the money in either some other slot or cash it out and play another place.
 

brianmon

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i rarely play on auto-start because is boring and i havent figured out how to make that Cheat Engine work. so i play start-stop until im going broke.

If you want to autoplay faster, like continually pressing start-stop. try googling 'free mouse auto clicker' and download it from CNET. but make sure you decline all the junk 'offers' which come with it (free system check, toolbars etc), when you install it. then just set the speed between 3-5 miliseconds
 

whodatrec

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I dont think this game is random.. More likley some sort of awp mechanic.. Since my 10 000x bet win on this slot i have had around 3-400 features without getting a wildline. According to statistics i should be more than due to hit..

whooo, my username collor changed... whats that?
 

asghan

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Don't look for the pattern, there is none. I almost always play 0.45, and I had all kind of sessions.
Long dry spells when I couldn't hit feature for many spins, but also these crazy sessions when features pop up every few spins. This is DoA.

You can't control it, you can only control your bankroll.

But despite thinking this is all random, I like to do some magic myslef. Like when it starts to eat your bankroll like crazy I leave it right away for few hours or even a day.
It may not matter completely, but helps me psychologically.
 

Jasminebed

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If you want to autoplay faster, like continually pressing start-stop. try googling 'free mouse auto clicker' and download it from CNET. but make sure you decline all the junk 'offers' which come with it (free system check, toolbars etc), when you install it. then just set the speed between 3-5 miliseconds

I think it is very important to clear with a casino that use of such auto clicker software is allowed. Pretty much every T&Cs I have read disallow such devices.

Now, it does seem silly to me that a casino would disallow you betting faster, but it is still their ballgame and their rules..
 

rshkrn

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I don't think there's a system of playing this slot or any other one, especially one where change of bet sizes is involved!!! If there would be we'd have seen 10 times more screenies than we already have....:)
 

dusky

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You are not "due" anything from any slot, ever.

The most spins I have gone without a single bonus round on Playtech's Great Blue is just over 2000. I've also hit the bonus round 3 times within 4 spins.

Slots are random, they have no memory. There's no compensation for having a long session without any bonus it just plays how it plays, especially a game with huge variance such as Dead or Alive.
 

catapultaudio

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Funny you should mention that, I have been doing a whole bunch of testing/ "research" on Great Blue after having a huge lucky streak when I played it for the first time in a year or so a couple of months back, then it going to cold on me I was actually starting to get really annoyed..! I've recorded nearly 150 features so far (not many I know but it takes a bunch of time, especially on this slot...) and am averaging well over 400 spins per feature. I can't imagine this game is using the typical 1/151 or whatever it is trigger math.

Yesterday I dropped a few £ into dead or alive instead in the hope of a sneaky monster as I ain't played that in a long while now, just under 500 spins, no feature.

Slots suck sometimes :)
 

dunover

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I dont think this game is random.. More likley some sort of awp mechanic.. Since my 10 000x bet win on this slot i have had around 3-400 features without getting a wildline. According to statistics i should be more than due to hit..

whooo, my username collor changed... whats that?


You have changed colour as you are here now 2 years!!!!

There is something odd about DoA, I have never had 5 wilds in FS or 5 scatters, but I have had a session where I hit FS about 25 times in a 90 minutes or less. One did actually give me a the 5 extra spins, but no 5-in-line. My biggest to date in real money is about 320x stake.

The odd thing is, and I don't know why, is that if you open the game in 4 windows at once say, it will deduct stakes and pay wins normally on each slot/game, but when you hit FS ALL the 4 slots will do one spin in turn, until 3 done each. It's almost like the FS rounds are not actually coming from YOUR slot but a 'pool'.
 

Blathaon

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You have changed colour as you are here now 2 years!!!!

There is something odd about DoA, I have never had 5 wilds in FS or 5 scatters, but I have had a session where I hit FS about 25 times in a 90 minutes or less. One did actually give me a the 5 extra spins, but no 5-in-line. My biggest to date in real money is about 320x stake.

The odd thing is, and I don't know why, is that if you open the game in 4 windows at once say, it will deduct stakes and pay wins normally on each slot/game, but when you hit FS ALL the 4 slots will do one spin in turn, until 3 done each. It's almost like the FS rounds are not actually coming from YOUR slot but a 'pool'.

This seems to just be something that the older NetEnt slots does, it's probably the way they are made since it doesn't affect newer NetEnt slots.

Try opening a couple of windows in free play and launch Excalibur(another old NetEnt slot) and the same thing happens when you hit free spins.
 

lotusch

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Part of Guts e-mail promo for 30 free spins on DOA I have received this morning:

Thanks Ben for the free spins by the way! :)

So that's how it rolls...8.5k on the fourth spin!!
And that's why people like myself never hit anything,because of these insane hits from other players!

Congratz to the lucky git anyway,2 big wins in 2 days :O


Hello Mark,

I know one lucky gentleman in England whose weekend couldn’t have gone any better. First on Saturday he hit £8500 on his fourth Dead or Alive spin (with a £1,80 bet by the way) and just to top it all off, on Sunday, with his 10th spin on the game Mega Moolah, he hit the major jackpot of over £29 000. Wow! Congrats!
 

randomiam

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slot is sooo random

try this one for the record books twice within 7 days i got 5 scatters at betsafe
was crazy haven't had anything good on it since
 

petro

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I didn't read the whole thread but people shouldn't forget that each spin is independent of the last.
There is no way to manipulate it.
 
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