Do you play LIVE DEALER games?

[babs7262]

So, Are these live dealer games only in Playtech? Because I wont be able to sign up. let me know if there are any that take US players, I just wanna watch for a bit. Maybe ill try delrio just to see if I can atleast get in and look

 

[lojo]

RiverBelle has them , iassume nugget and all their sisters do to, but I don't know.

 

[silkprint]

I tried some live games a few years ago with a casino that was pretty new . I don't even know if they are around anymore . At that time The feed was choppy and they lost connection a bit . I bet now things are alot different so I would at least try it again if it was a good casino.

 

[Jufo]

Remember that Ladbrokes has cashable 25$ Live dealer blackjack bonus with only 8x wager until 15th Nov. For me it was a nice way to test live dealer casino and earn a couple bucks.

 

[chuchu59]

I played these at Dr. HO several years ago and more recently at a sportsbook casino and Ladbrokes. The action is quite clumsy and I have my doubts as to the shuffling of these monstrous cards. The Baccarat is too streaky for my liking. There were instances where the live hands did not match the animated display on the screen so it is advisable that once you notice an error you write down the hand number immediately and call the pit boss. The BJ seemed okay.

 

[aka23]

I tried, but no i don't play live dealer game, it's too slow.

Agreed. The long shuffling breaks are especially irritating.

 

[aka23]

But at DUBLINBET.com, there is a really fast-paced BJ. It has got some special rules; anyone who is interested can see for himself/herself; the player really has to stay focused because the game is really fast and you have to think and decide really quickly - because of the special rules - it is a kind of a percentage-payout BJ; there is a special name for it but I forgot it.

It's called "early payout" blackjack. There are no hit/stand/double strategy decisions. Instead the dealer plays your hand with (close to) basic strategy, and you have choice to either continue or take an early payout with each hand. The early payout is usually about 97% of the hand's value if the play is continued.

With VueTec software, I prefer their standard computerized blackjack to the live "early payout" blackjack. The standard blackjack has a slight player edge with optimal strategy due to the early surrender, allows you to make typical strategy decisions, and does not have typical live game limitations like slow play, shuffle breaks, and forcing decisions within a specified period.

 

[SlotMonster]

I like "live dealer" games, in spite of they're tooooo slow
But I always prefer to play "live dealer" games cause every dealer is almost ideal RNG

 

[I<3Microgaming]

Yes - I've played them all substantially.

I'm still not convinced that online casinos are not rigged, but with live dealer I can be positive it isn't!

 

[GrandMaster]

Yes - I've played them all substantially.

I'm still not convinced that online casinos are not rigged, but with live dealer I can be positive it isn't!

How do you know that they are not stacking the deck, dealing seconds or shuffle the cards in a way that's beneficial for the casino? Land based casino have done all of these things.

 

[gaydave]

I have played at several live dealer casinos. When US players were allowed I had tried at Europa group and other Playtechs. They were "ok" but live dealers are WAY too slow because invariably you have someone playing who either answered the phone or ran to check on the kids or whatever... thus making you wait for them to stand on a 18 or something. So it is mind boggling slow even compared to Land Based Casino play and especially next to On Line casino play.
Casino Web Cam is a nice place and reputable from everything that I have seen. One BIG WARNING:
Stay away from Londons casino. They are exclusively live dealers and excruciatingly rogue. I have seen multiple player complaints and the biggest "bet" is if you will get paid there or not.
The upside to live games is Chatting with other players AND the dealers (who are usually extremely attractive females, BTW ).

 

[Janek12]

How do you know that they are not stacking the deck, dealing seconds or shuffle the cards in a way that's beneficial for the casino? Land based casino have done all of these things.

In Playtech casinos, they shuffle the cards in front of you; they deal in such a way that you can clearly see the way they do it. In one of the versions of live dealer Baccarat, they have a TV next to the dealer with CNN running all the time so as to prove the game really takes place in real time.
As for roulette, that is IMO also indisputable; cheating would be really complicated; not that I did not think about it - the only way they could cheat (and I stretching this really far ) is that they would have to calculate the total bets placed by hundreds, more likely thousands or tens of thousands players all over the world and then put in seamlessly a video recording of a roulette spin with the most advantageous outcome for the casinos (because it is one roulette wheel for all the Playtech casinos). I tend to be paranoid but for me, live dealers in Playtech casinos are trustful and I would trust them far more than any
RNG; not only that "seeing is believing" but if you get a bad run at BJ, and I DID get 11 consecutive losses at live BJ, playing basic strategy, at least I can be absolutely sure there was nothing rigged.

 

[I<3Microgaming]

How do you know that they are not stacking the deck, dealing seconds or shuffle the cards in a way that's beneficial for the casino? Land based casino have done all of these things.

Believe me, I have probably played more hands of BJ and Baccarat at Casinowebcam software casinos than any member on this board. I have a pretty good feel for the place, their shuffles are real and authentic and you can always track the cards.

They have been operating for a few years now, 24/7, they have dealt thousands and thousands of hands. They have never been subject of any scrutiny. 100% not rigged.

 

[GrandMaster]

Blackjack Secrets by Wong has a chapter on cheating in which he describes various methods that have been used by casinos. A skilled cheater can cheat right in front of your eyes and you won't notice it unless you know exactly what to look for, and you have no hope of noticing cheating over a webcam.

 

[I<3Microgaming]

Blackjack Secrets by Wong has a chapter on cheating in which he describes various methods that have been used by casinos. A skilled cheater can cheat right in front of your eyes and you won't notice it unless you know exactly what to look for, and you have no hope of noticing cheating over a webcam.

Well, in the thousands of hands I have played at blackjack at Casinowebcam and their skin sites, in part due to the large wager requirements of their bonuses, I have always won a little, broken even, or lost a bit flat betting. Nothing beyond the scope of the standard statistical distributions of blackjack. When I lost big it was because of my own bad bankroll management. Same for baccarat (although baccarat isn't riggable, the average hand usually has the same amount of action on B and P).

And well, if you suspect the reputable live dealer casinos are cheating, I'd be interested to know what you think goes on some of the more reputable software operations!

 

[GrandMaster]

I am not saying that they are cheating. I am saying that just because you see the dealer and the cards, it does not mean that there is no scope for cheating.

 

[SlotMonster]

I am not saying that they are cheating. I am saying that just because you see the dealer and the cards, it does not mean that there is no scope for cheating.

I agree with GrandMaster about it doesn't mean that there is no scope for cheating when playing with Live Dealer. But I must say that there more less methods to cheat, than when you are playing usual games (not Live, I mean). On one of russian online forums I found many threads marked smthng like "How they can cheat..." and players discussed it many times. The main goal is that Live Dealer is limited in his/her actions to cheat, especcially if you can see him/her. But...casinos may use roulette wheel which are made with some "upgrade" (width of one-number section may be changed, f.e., or may install special mechanism which allow a little acceleration/inhibition of roulette wheel - using these methods dealers may enforce the wheel to stop when they want). And if you have slow or bad connection (or casinos may transmit low-quality video) - you cannot see these small details.
And in this case casinos may decrease players's chance to win.

 

[I<3Microgaming]

I agree that is not impossible for them to cheat.

But considering that is almost always more than one player on every Roulette spin, like Baccarat, rigging Roulette for long term profit would be a very difficult and risky thing to do.

 

[gaydave]

Agreed. Not only would it be really risky but it isn't as if these games arent built to have a fairly sizeable house advantage. There is no reason to "rig" anything because the advantage is already built into the games. I never understood why some casinos/software would do this. It is amazing.

 

[lojo]

Agreed. Not only would it be really risky but it isn't as if these games arent built to have a fairly sizeable house advantage. There is no reason to "rig" anything because the advantage is already built into the games. I never understood why some casinos/software would do this. It is amazing.

Indeed.

 

[WagerX]

Baccarat, blackjack, euro roulette at riverbelle

There isn't blackjack at Riverbelle yet.
I've found live blackjack at:

Dublin bet
Vegas Red
Europa Casino
Bet Fred (burried in their lobby)

good luck.

 

[LaurieJim]

I agree that is not impossible for them to cheat.

But considering that is almost always more than one player on every Roulette spin, like Baccarat, rigging Roulette for long term profit would be a very difficult and risky thing to do.

...........ditto for me also!!