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When you get into a bonus round on a slot machine that requires you to make choices, e.g., three treasure chests out of eight, or pick until you lose, spin a wheel, anything like that, do your choices really make a difference, or has the RNG already determined how much you will win?
Thanks,
Larry
Dear Larry,
Thanks for the kind words about my column.
Let me start with your last question first. Has the RNG determined how much you will win? On a Class III slot machine (the kind in Las Vegas, Atlantic City, Tunica, etc.), the RNG has not determined what you will win. The RNG is used to determine what values are under each choice. What you pick determines how much you win.
Your first question was whether your choices really make a difference. Even though your choices determine how much you win, your choices don't matter. You have no information available to tell you what value is under each choice, so the long-term average of the amount you win in the bonus round is the same whether you always choose the same items, always choose right to left or left to right, always choose randomly, or use a different method on each bonus round. Because the average is the same, your choices don't really matter.
The fact that your choices can determine your fate and still not matter can be a difficult concept to wrap one's head around. By way of an analogy, let's say we have three sets of fair dice, one pair red, one blue and one white. You call one of the colors and then throw all of the dice. Because each pair is completely fair, when we track the number of times each total appears on each pair, in the long run each pair will generate the pyramid of craps. The color you choose determines your results for that throw, but in the long run it doesn't matter which color you choose because the probabilities are the same for each pair of dice.
On Class II machines, the kind you find in Indian casinos without state compacts and machines run by state lotteries, the result of your play has already been determined by a central server. What you choose makes no difference. The central server has already determined how much you will win.
Jackpots for all,
John
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When you get into a bonus round on a slot machine that requires you to make choices, e.g., three treasure chests out of eight, or pick until you lose, spin a wheel, anything like that, do your choices really make a difference, or has the RNG already determined how much you will win?
Thanks,
Larry
Dear Larry,
Thanks for the kind words about my column.
Let me start with your last question first. Has the RNG determined how much you will win? On a Class III slot machine (the kind in Las Vegas, Atlantic City, Tunica, etc.), the RNG has not determined what you will win. The RNG is used to determine what values are under each choice. What you pick determines how much you win.
Your first question was whether your choices really make a difference. Even though your choices determine how much you win, your choices don't matter. You have no information available to tell you what value is under each choice, so the long-term average of the amount you win in the bonus round is the same whether you always choose the same items, always choose right to left or left to right, always choose randomly, or use a different method on each bonus round. Because the average is the same, your choices don't really matter.
The fact that your choices can determine your fate and still not matter can be a difficult concept to wrap one's head around. By way of an analogy, let's say we have three sets of fair dice, one pair red, one blue and one white. You call one of the colors and then throw all of the dice. Because each pair is completely fair, when we track the number of times each total appears on each pair, in the long run each pair will generate the pyramid of craps. The color you choose determines your results for that throw, but in the long run it doesn't matter which color you choose because the probabilities are the same for each pair of dice.
On Class II machines, the kind you find in Indian casinos without state compacts and machines run by state lotteries, the result of your play has already been determined by a central server. What you choose makes no difference. The central server has already determined how much you will win.
Jackpots for all,
John

that keeps track of this stuff for us. I think that is why this conversation keeps coming up here because it's difficult for those that haven't experienced it to understand it. I see patterns all the time that my brain just shoves to the forefront of my thoughts so I basically know what kind of a session I'll have pretty quickly. But as I've said before, it's right 99% of the time but that 1% comes out of the blue and blows you away. In the last 7 months MG has been brutal and seeing the same continuous pattern emerging every time I sit to play certainly has taken the fun out of it lately. Call it gut feeling, woman's intuition or whatever name suits this kind of occurrence but I haven't felt that warm fuzzy feeling when sitting down to play, in a long time. Long enough in fact that I just uninstalled my 3 main casino sites a couple of days ago because I'm tired of that "Oh no..here we go again" experience. I just like trusting my gut as it's never steered me wrong yet. This "pattern" and RNG conversation will always be here as we haven't managed to put it to rest yet and most likely won't. But it keeps life interesting!
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