# Dilemma?

#### BubbleG

##### Full Member
What would u do??????????

Keep it!

I had exactly that scenario somewhere back in the winner screenshots thread... Ditch the others and keep the deuces!! I'm sure this is statistically wrong, but we're all gamblers, right? Go on, hit those four sets of four deuces!!

You've got about a 1 in 4.75 chance of getting the fourth 2 for 1000 coins and a 1 in 20 or so chance of 2 lots of 4 deuces. Or you keep the 500 coins. The odds probably say, keep what you got. But as Slotster says...what the hell... you might get 5000 coins

I'd keep the three deuces and shake my mojo stick at the screen.

Anychance you could wave the mojo stick in my direction I flapped it and took the 500

Not even a close call - the pat wild royal is almost 50% better than holding the three deuces and going for the fourth, even though the wild royal is shorted from 25 to 20 in this version.

The real question is: why were you playing that game at all? Perfect play brings it in just under 98%, and if you need to ask about such a clear call, I guarantee you're misplaying an awful lot. You'd almost be better off playing slots.

Give pontoon a whirl, you'll lose your money over ten times more slowly (assuming comparable wagers) and the strategy is a piece o' piss.

Caruso doesn't believe in mojo.

Caruso maybe he was playing the game because he wanted a change or maybe he just likes the game

caruso said:
The real question is: why were you playing that game at all? Perfect play brings it in just under 98%, and if you need to ask about such a clear call, I guarantee you're misplaying an awful lot. You'd almost be better off playing slots.

The answer to that question is simple, i'm not a robot IMO the fun factor of this variation of VP makes a 98% return worthwhile. Ill stick to +EV no limit where creativity and an eye for situation more than covers any short comings NOT necessarily cards. Keeps the fun and gamble in the casino where I can deal with losing sometimes as apposed to being bad beat by the casino because i'm expecting to win.

Lol..... This dilemma has bugged me that much next time I already know what i'm doing, there's always the double

Well, "Ivy29", thank you for this charming comment:

"How arrogant. And, you are wrong on that strategy."

No sweetie, I am right - which "strategy" are you referring to? This game returms just under 98%, and the correct play is over 50% better than going for deuce quads. Rather than leaving cryptic comments for me in my "profile", would you please post them in public where I can see them?

I gave this character GOOD advice about better games to play and the nature of the hand, and I get a load of shit from BOTH of you. That's just really appreciative.

If you want to contests facts, state it in public and don't weazel it behind my back, and don't leave cryptic comments for me about being "wrong in my strategy", when there is no strategy involved and my post is factual and helpful.

WTF???

caruso said:
I gave this character GOOD advice about better games to play and the nature of the hand, and I get a load of shit from BOTH of you. That's just really appreciative.

CM WTF did u point that stick at??? As I for one am definitly missing something here I dont know what Ivy29 has been saying but please do enlighten me on the phantom shit

Geeeeeeeeezzzzzz

BubbleG,

Do I dare speak for Caruso? I don't think he was directing that comment at you it was probably at me. I left him a comment that he probably didn't like while I was giving him reputation points. I stand by my comments.

You've gotta go for the 2222

Who's Ivy29?

caruso said:
Well, "Ivy29", thank you for this charming comment:

"How arrogant. And, you are wrong on that strategy."

No sweetie, I am right - which "strategy" are you referring to? This game returms just under 98%, and the correct play is over 50% better than going for deuce quads. Rather than leaving cryptic comments for me in my "profile", would you please post them in public where I can see them?

I gave this character GOOD advice about better games to play and the nature of the hand, and I get a load of shit from BOTH of you. That's just really appreciative.

If you want to contests facts, state it in public and don't weazel it behind my back, and don't leave cryptic comments for me about being "wrong in my strategy", when there is no strategy involved and my post is factual and helpful.
Come on Caruso, there is no need to be so agitated. This thread is quite enlightening and many members have only stated their comments on whether or not they will retain the 2 cards in question. Simply put,you dont get so many of these hands unless you play a lot so there is no definite right or wrong answer. Actually,I would have loved Bubble G to swap the 2 cards so that there will be a chance to show it in the Winners Screenshots if he got the 4 Deuces.

chuchu59 said:
Actually,I would have loved Bubble G to swap the 2 cards so that there will be a chance to show it in the Winners Screenshots if he got the 4 Deuces.

I'll show you REAL deuces.

OK..Caruso..that is spectacular, but I'm sure you've heard that and already know it without hearing it.. but I wanna know.. BubbleG, what did you end up doing? Keep us posted...

Let's stay humble here and lighten up a bit, Caruso's comments can be a bit hard-edged, but I'm sure this site would not be the same without him...

BubbleG said:
Anychance you could wave the mojo stick in my direction I flapped it and took the 500

Next time its the deuces!!

caruso said:
I'll show you REAL deuces.

They don't count unless its multiple lines

BubbleG said:
They don't count unless its multiple lines

Show me a Deuces Wild Full Pay game with multi-lines, and I'll be in there.

That was my point with the screenshot: the game is full pay, which is why I was playing. That's "real" deuces, not crappy short-pay.

All VP players should get hold of Winpoker:

Plug in the paytable, analyse the payout with perfect play and practise the game. Heck, it's even FUN.

If more players sent Bob Dancer 30 bucks his way, they'd send casinos less money their way.

Easy call.

Video poker strategy master by TomSki is another program no serious VP player should be without.

I Take "Chick" Hits!

Didn't take any screenshots yesterday at Inetbet when I was playing for nickels and hit a straight flush (at PickEmPoker) AND four deuces (at single hand VP deuces wild). Why not? Cuz the big boys would probably laugh at me for playing nickels. It was a very exciting experience and I should not make light of it. So next time I will do the screen then proudly post it in the winner's screenshots and the big boys can shower me with whatever banter they choose! BTW, I used to do chick hits as well.

BubbleG I would have kept the hand as dealt and not chanced that mojo was working. It's just a game!

Lastly, I really like that reputation comments can now be viewed as I have learned a lot about human nature.

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