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Just landed a little over $11,000 on a $9 bet on the old saloon.. shame it was while playing a freeroll tournament as it's unlikely I'll see it hit that well again anytime soon..
 
Finally made a $50 deposit after a six or seven week sabbatical to play DoA II. Tried all three bonuses. Had a 250x bonus with Choice #1 but not as good with the others. I’ll probably alternate between Choice #2 and 3 until I get another good win. I’m up $20.
 
Was peeking at the Slot Tracker stats on DOA2 and although there is only like 300k worth of data, it paints an interesting picture nonetheless.

DOA2

Spins +- 300k
Best Hit +- 24 000x
Average Bonus Win +- 100x
Feature Trigger +- 189 spins

To put it into perspective

Bonanza

Spins +- 4.3m
Best Hit +- 3600x
Average Bonus Win +- 102x
Feature Trigger +- 478 spins

I know that the sample sizes are small - especially for DOA, but I like what I see overall.

From my limited play of DOA for testing, I've triggered about maybe 20 - 25 Free Spins. My best Hits were 1200x, 900x, 1700x and 250x in that batch. In comparison, I've never hit 1000x on Bonanza in like maybe 500 features or God knows, even more...

Nate
 
Was peeking at the Slot Tracker stats on DOA2 and although there is only like 300k worth of data, it paints an interesting picture nonetheless.

DOA2

Spins +- 300k
Best Hit +- 24 000x
Average Bonus Win +- 100x
Feature Trigger +- 189 spins

To put it into perspective

Bonanza

Spins +- 4.3m
Best Hit +- 3600x
Average Bonus Win +- 102x
Feature Trigger +- 478 spins

I know that the sample sizes are small - especially for DOA, but I like what I see overall.

From my limited play of DOA for testing, I've triggered about maybe 20 - 25 Free Spins. My best Hits were 1200x, 900x, 1700x and 250x in that batch. In comparison, I've never hit 1000x on Bonanza in like maybe 500 features or God knows, even more...

Nate
From the free spins side but you would need the base stats to judge fairly. It may look good on paper but sometimes it can be misleading as in a slot that bonuses twice as often as another may cost 3x more on average to trigger (depending on base game volatility)so you have to take those things into account.
 
That's funny, having delved back into the old DOA yesterday (and blowing a 20-to-80 bankroll) I still found it to be the more generous of the two 'Deads', and better game overall.

All the more reason Netent will probably pull DOA 1 one of these days :cool:
 
Is BOZ any better when your monthly is 57%?

Lol, good point but even that is higher than the 31%. :p (Funny how all games get cold at the same time, isn't it? ;))
June has just began, not fair to hold the numbers against him. What impresses me is how easy it is to get close to TRTP on BOOZ.
At the same time I am afraid that a DOAII wildline may be absolutely necessary and very very hard to get at the same time.

Without the number of spins that data says absolutely nothing

Excellent point, I often say it myself. :thumbsup:
In this case (4000 on DOAII, 8000 on BOOZ) it is enough to say something. And that is a hint on how the RTP is distributed between small and big wins.
The big wins alone should make someone consider that before even making a spin! ;)
 
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I see all these big wins and happening daily so it tempts me to play but soon as I load up the game within 50 spins im so bored off my tits i HAVE TO CLOSE IT. How dop people sit through thousands of spins chasing these big wildlines.......

Presumably the same way as you sit through Bonanza waiting a bonus, never mind a 1000x :p
 
I see all these big wins and happening daily so it tempts me to play but soon as I load up the game within 50 spins im so bored off my tits i HAVE TO CLOSE IT. How dop people sit through thousands of spins chasing these big wildlines.......

I just leave it playing on another page while I'm doing something else. I can hear when the feature drops in.

Often leave it going when I go out as well. Nice coming in to a bonus round, although not even hit 100X yet.
 
We all see amazing wins .... but is it really a better game? Lets compare with BOOZ

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Is it really a better game?

Same here mate, no success at all as all winnings gained (and thus deposits) are gone on that game :(

Im just leaning to the fact that this game "cant" do it when you are betting over the value of 90p/c per spin. But yeah, what does our volume tell towards the volatility of the game? I mean even 100k game rounds is not representable to display any RTP stats. I'm quite sure I haven't reached that amount of spins, so I'll keep on trying :). But where I normally bet 5 / 10 / 20 - this game I'll stick to 1.80 for now instead of 3.60, 4.50 or 9.00 as its just like:

" Poef, your money is gone, it didnt do too well! "

Kr. Jan
 
i must be only one not to have hit a widline on this game. how can a slot throw so many daily big wins out :eek2:
I haven’t hit one and I only ever hit one on the original. Never had 5 scatters either but I don’t like the game enough to play more than 100 or so spins in a session.

You have to remember these games are taking huge sums of money each day. I sometimes think people underestimate just how much. All the big wins you see are paid for by thousands of others.
 
I haven’t hit one and I only ever hit one on the original. Never had 5 scatters either but I don’t like the game enough to play more than 100 or so spins in a session.

You have to remember these games are taking huge sums of money each day. I sometimes think people underestimate just how much. All the big wins you see are paid for by thousands of others.
Before I hit the above win my rtp was about 45% . After it it is just over 100% yet I didn't feel as if I had put so much money into the slot. It is quite deceiving
 
Before I hit the above win my rtp was about 45% . After it it is just over 100% yet I didn't feel as if I had put so much money into the slot. It is quite deceiving
Funnily enough when I did hit my wildline on the original I thought that puts me way ahead because I only play 9 or 18p but when I checked I was 94% so yeah a bit deceiving. I think it’s partly that unless you hit a wildline you very rarely leave a session ahead and if you do it’s not by much.
 
Was peeking at the Slot Tracker stats on DOA2 and although there is only like 300k worth of data, it paints an interesting picture nonetheless.

DOA2

Spins +- 300k
Best Hit +- 24 000x
Average Bonus Win +- 100x
Feature Trigger +- 189 spins

To put it into perspective

Bonanza

Spins +- 4.3m
Best Hit +- 3600x
Average Bonus Win +- 102x
Feature Trigger +- 478 spins

I know that the sample sizes are small - especially for DOA, but I like what I see overall.

From my limited play of DOA for testing, I've triggered about maybe 20 - 25 Free Spins. My best Hits were 1200x, 900x, 1700x and 250x in that batch. In comparison, I've never hit 1000x on Bonanza in like maybe 500 features or God knows, even more...

Nate

Really wish people would stop comparing bonanza to DOA2 you can't compare a VHV game with a MV game.

You might as well compare starburst to DOA, pointless.

They are completely different variance games, you'll soon get bored of DOA2 when you have over 100 features of less than 20x and a base game that constantly destroy's your bankroll. To have had those hits already is just lucky.
 
Really wish people would stop comparing bonanza to DOA2 you can't compare a VHV game with a MV game.

You might as well compare starburst to DOA, pointless.

They are completely different variance games, you'll soon get bored of DOA2 when you have over 100 features of less than 20x and a base game that constantly destroy's your bankroll. To have had those hits already is just lucky.


With a touch of "new-release-itis" - You know the one where we see massive hits galore posted, the slot actually makes a loss for the first few weeks and then bleeds everyone dry with a wild line getting posted once a month, if that :p
 
Really wish people would stop comparing bonanza to DOA2 you can't compare a VHV game with a MV game.

You might as well compare starburst to DOA, pointless.

They are completely different variance games, you'll soon get bored of DOA2 when you have over 100 features of less than 20x and a base game that constantly destroy's your bankroll. To have had those hits already is just lucky.
But they're only pointing out the difference between what the games promise and what they're actually delivering.

BTG are constantly promising massive potential, unlimited multipliers, 17k win ways, unlimited re-triggers. But there's very little to backup their hype.

The best we've seen is a video of a win from a streamer's viewer, recreated by BTG, then presented by said streamer.
Considering BTG posted screenshots in their own competition. Is it little wonder that players aren't so trustworthy and question the hype
 
Really wish people would stop comparing bonanza to DOA2 you can't compare a VHV game with a MV game.

You might as well compare starburst to DOA, pointless.

They are completely different variance games, you'll soon get bored of DOA2 when you have over 100 features of less than 20x and a base game that constantly destroy's your bankroll. To have had those hits already is just lucky.


Of course the games are completely different.

I like to think of it like this; Imagine adding up the total amount of playtime from everyone who plays bonanza just here at CM. Then imagine instead that it was only yourself and nobody else who spent all those combined hours of playtime on that game (I'd hate to think how many spins that would actually come to, and how much time it would take).
Would you then still be ok with the 2 or so wins that (iirc) were barely over 10,000x, after having wasted THAT much time on a game which claims it can deliver soooo much more than that?
(I'm not sure if anyone has hit anything over 10,000/15,000x here so forgive me if i got that wrong, or slap me in the face and correct me).
And that's just one of the many games by btg that have been played by members here for a long time, offering insane potential of which pretty much nothing around other than DOA2 claims to offer
 
Really wish people would stop comparing bonanza to DOA2 you can't compare a VHV game with a MV game.

You might as well compare starburst to DOA, pointless.

They are completely different variance games, you'll soon get bored of DOA2 when you have over 100 features of less than 20x and a base game that constantly destroy's your bankroll. To have had those hits already is just lucky.

I agree here...

When I first saw this game I thought they had done a great job, but actually I don't think they have... you cant have 10,000x wins without an enormous amount of dreadful features. My guess is that this game will have started really well and fallen off a cliff, with people now playing very short sessions, probably at low bets, to try and get a feature and then hope it goes massive, which it wont.
 
Of course the games are completely different.

I like to think of it like this; Imagine adding up the total amount of playtime from everyone who plays bonanza just here at CM. Then imagine instead that it was only yourself and nobody else who spent all those combined hours of playtime on that game (I'd hate to think how many spins that would actually come to, and how much time it would take).
Would you then still be ok with the 2 or so wins that (iirc) were barely over 10,000x, after having wasted THAT much time on a game which claims it can deliver soooo much more than that?
(I'm not sure if anyone has hit anything over 10,000/15,000x here so forgive me if i got that wrong, or slap me in the face and correct me).
And that's just one of the many games by btg that have been played by members here for a long time, offering insane potential of which pretty much nothing around other than DOA2 claims to offer

I hit a 20000x on Bonanza but I’ve just downplayed it. Only difference it made was I changed the weekly shop from Asda to Tesco. 30000x will see an upgrade to Sainsbury’s.

Re comparing: I play DOA for money in one withdrawal that could net me a cash purchase car and Bonanza for smaller (though not always), yet more frequent withdrawals. I only tend to withdraw from DOA upon wildlines so say 6 or 7 times a year if I’m lucky.
 
I'm pretty certain Bonanza couldn't produce £12K off a 45p bet, whereas DOA quite obviously can. Therein lies the difference!

One's all empty talk and hype, the other one produces on occasion. Whilst not bleeding everyone dry under the guise of 'potential'
 
I agree here...

When I first saw this game I thought they had done a great job, but actually I don't think they have... you cant have 10,000x wins without an enormous amount of dreadful features. My guess is that this game will have started really well and fallen off a cliff, with people now playing very short sessions, probably at low bets, to try and get a feature and then hope it goes massive, which it wont.

A game producing all these big wins and you think it's not a good slot? Lol

Of course long losing spells happen they do in all slots. But fact a slot exists someone can bet 9p or 18p and win thousands is great.

Their is nothing bad about this game chucking big wins it's why we all gamble.

Fact game is boring as hell is separate point.
 
A game producing all these big wins and you think it's not a good slot? Lol

Of course long losing spells happen they do in all slots. But fact a slot exists someone can bet 9p or 18p and win thousands is great.

Their is nothing bad about this game chucking big wins it's why we all gamble.

Fact game is boring as hell is separate point.

I expect to see you recreating your Bonanza stakes on this, in the near future.
 

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