Cryptologic Tournaments probable glitch

[tristan727]

Hi,
This may well turn out to be a long thread - but as I am currently trying to resolve it with the casino concerned, and presumably Cryptologic, I just have the one question for now, would most appreciate if one of the experts here could advise on...

Does Cryptologic have the ability to advise on what time a final bet was placed in a tournament, and to show who was winning the tournament at any stage?

Basically I won a tournament last night, staying up until 5am GMT to ensure, and was declared 1st when it closed, & checked 10 mins later to make sure again- but when I woke up a few hours later I found to my horror had only been awarded 2nd place, & 20% of the winner's prize money. Like a fool, I trusted it & took no screenshots (hence my questions above)

cheers.

p.s. great fan of this website btw - sorry been lurking for so long, kept trying to post, but something something about administrative permissions etc. kept blocking me.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Heard it all before.

I had this issue ages ago, it's a trick by the expert players (not necessarily deliberate). The scores only update when a competitor logs off from the tournament. If a player gets ahead, they can just stay logged on till the tournament ends, and their latest score will not reflect until the tournament ends. This is probably what happened to you. Next time, use this to your advantage if you make first place with right near the end.
I tend to sign up and play in the last hours of these events, and I did get caught out like this myself once.

 

[tristan727]

Well, I happen to know, through another forum have highlighted this in, that 'this trick' has happened to lots of other people, including someone just 14 minutes ago, in the Inter tournament, who was in first for 2 weeks, until 2 mins after the tournament ended.

This is no clever tactic, but totally against the rules or spirit of such tournaments, and I intend to pursue this fully - you cannot regularily have tournaments which show the winner & that the status of it is closed, and then give the prize to someone else. I wasn't aware that the purpose of these tournaments was for Cryptologic to award prizes to the most devious exploiters of loopholes in their software.

I am also not 100% convinced about this theory being applicable here- two in a row seems an awful co-incidence, for such a tactic to be employed - after all it doesn't take an expert player to go from 1k to 33k in a roulette tourney - just luck.

 

[alanshave]

That'll be me then on Inter.

Done like a kipper, dodgy tourney software.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Software

Well, I happen to know, through another forum have highlighted this in, that 'this trick' has happened to lots of other people, including someone just 14 minutes ago, in the Inter tournament, who was in first for 2 weeks, until 2 mins after the tournament ended.

This is no clever tactic, but totally against the rules or spirit of such tournaments, and I intend to pursue this fully - you cannot regularily have tournaments which show the winner & that the status of it is closed, and then give the prize to someone else. I wasn't aware that the purpose of these tournaments was for Cryptologic to award prizes to the most devious exploiters of loopholes in their software.

I am also not 100% convinced about this theory being applicable here- two in a row seems an awful co-incidence, for such a tactic to be employed - after all it doesn't take an expert player to go from 1k to 33k in a roulette tourney - just luck.

Players are not necessarily at fault. Many WILL play at "full tilt" to get what they think is first place. The error is that the scoreboard software does not update large wins while a player is still logged in. If the player has the big hit near the end, they may well still be logged in when the tournament closes. In slots or roulette tournaments, this can make all the difference, as players are not going to play if they believe they have a good enough score only a few minutes from the end.
The problem comes when other players log in near the end to check they are still ahead, and then go away happy they are still first or second, only to see themselves beaten by an update. Cryptologic know about this, and have done for a while, they don't deem it necessary to fix the scoreboard to update in real time. In order for a player to exploit this, they have to be lucky enough to get the hit anyway, and are just as likely to log out just to make sure the hit was still enough. I was happy as a runner up for 100 in this, however, a 4OK would have made all the difference, and is probably how the top score was gained.

 

[Mousey]

OT: Pardon my interrruption, but who the heck is vit1 and why is s/he going around thanking every post? For points? Why? (Yes, I have become a a foul person, suspicious by nature.)

As you were...

 

[winbig]

OT: Pardon my interrruption, but who the heck is vit1 and why is s/he going around thanking every post? For points? Why? (Yes, I have become a a foul person, suspicious by nature.)

As you were...

No idea. I have a feeling it's a bot that Bryan setup. If you try to view their member profile, it comes up as "page not found". They're also not listed under the member listing.

 

[alanshave]

Hmm, could be a coincidence but Vitala was the player that won Inter. Wasn't a 4oak that put him to the top either for sure, 90% sure it was just a pair.