Corporate Governance of the United States Explained.

[ed skull murphy]

Ed'll be extremely easy to spot in the hustle and bustle of the next Meistermeet.

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You're a funny guy!

Actually, aluminium foil doesn't work so well, you need a copper helmet with an earthing braid.

I think it was Alan Watt who I heard say that cave paintings had been discovered with depictions of people wearing such a helmet, so it is possible that planet earth has been through this cycle before, possibly preceding the great flood, written about in the bible..

 

[paul7388]

Some parents might find it useful to know that their children are being brainwashed by harmful mind control techniques, whenever they view a Disney cartoon of movie.

Well Goatwack turned out ok.

Oh wait a minute maybe you are right

 

[ed skull murphy]

If someone's going to say Bambi's mum wasn't shot but rather it was a false flag and she was whisked off somewhere to fool us, well....

that's my childhood ruined

No it's a bit more subtle than that, there are hidden subliminal suggestions within the films, intended to sexualise the children viewing, for example.

 

[slotplayer]

From an outsider's perspective, the media portrayal of the U.S is terrible, either linked to Trump himself or the montages of college loons screaming at the sky and the like, and the ludicrous social changes taking place there.

I'm sure the media is doing their best to divide people and create narratives, and right now America is at a low ebb, or so it seems.

The media here is a total comedy show now. "ludicrous" that's a good word to describe the social changes.

Trump makes his own bed.

 

[goatwack]

No it's a bit more subtle than that, there are hidden subliminal suggestions within the films, intended to sexualise the children viewing, for example.

Yes, I remember watching a piece on that, either on t'telly or Youtube, I forget which. Some of it seemed quite credible

 

[Steviedoo]

I see all the usual suspects are getting the wrong end of the stick, as usual. It's to be expected.

Oh ed.
I see you’ve learned something from the last time you posted your theories and got yourself banned.
You’re being nice to us.
Thank you for that.

 

[ternur]

I see you are a lawyer, are you a freemason? Not that I expect you to answer that honestly, because you would be duty bound not to.

I'm not a skilled, unrestrained worker who builds by laying units of substantial material (such as stone or brick). Just your regular odd fellow.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Two things that are revered here by many in the USA is the US Constitution and the American flag.

The founding fathers were British land owning gentry and freemasons, they created that document to protect their own interests and the interests of their ilk. There are so many get out clauses in the constitution, that any government can sidestep it, and often does. I'm sorry if this comes across as harsh, but the constitution is not there for the benefit of the common man.

If you want to excercise your rights, you should study up on the common law, which trumps everything, if it is done correctly. Karl Lentz is your man for that.

The US flag is based on the flag of the Virginia Company, I believe, a subsidiary of the British East India Company. In other words, 'the corporation'.

 

[ed skull murphy]

I'm not a skilled, unrestrained worker who builds by laying units of substantial material (such as stone or brick). Just your regular odd fellow.

No, that's a stonemason.

Trust a lawyer to give misleading reply.

 

[mack341]

The founding fathers were British land owning gentry and freemasons, they created that document to protect their own interests and the interests of their ilk. There are so many get out clauses in the constitution, that any government can sidestep it, and often does. I'm sorry if this comes across as harsh, but the constitution is not there for the benefit of the common man.

If you want to excercise your rights, you should study up on the common law, which trumps everything, if it is done correctly. Karl Lentz is your man for that.

The US flag is based on the flag of the Virginia Company, I believe, a subsidiary of the British East India Company. In other words, 'the corporation'.

I think though Ed, on balance the US constitution must mean americans are freer than us brits, however I think there are a number of people in america who are concerned the constitution is being sidelined by the 2 main political parties hence the tea party movement. Like UKIP here, I believe the tea party is attacked and ridiculed by the mainstream media rather than debated logically.

It is amazing how complex Law is, judges and lawyers can argue for days over the meaning of 1 paragraph, no offence to ternur but freemasonry is popular here amongst our legal profession. Apparently 'In their initiation to the first degree, they swear to have their tongues torn out by the root and buried in the sand at low water mark if they reveal masonic secrets.'

 

[ed skull murphy]

I think though Ed, on balance the US constitution must mean americans are freer than us brits

Well I believe that Americans had at least a few decades of comparative freedom between independence until around 1830, when the corporation made it's move (some say 1871).

Americans can be free again by rescinding all of the contracts that they have signed with the federal government and the IRS, but that would involve giving up certain benefits and is not something to be taken lightly. A grasp of common law and contract law is essential before embarking on something like this. Better to rescind contracts for the things you can live without, while retaining or rewriting the contracts for the things that you need.

 

[slotplayer]

The founding fathers were British land owning gentry and freemasons, they created that document to protect their own interests and the interests of their ilk. There are so many get out clauses in the constitution, that any government can sidestep it, and often does. I'm sorry if this comes across as harsh, but the constitution is not there for the benefit of the common man.

If you want to excercise your rights, you should study up on the common law, which trumps everything, if it is done correctly. Karl Lentz is your man for that.

The US flag is based on the flag of the Virginia Company, I believe, a subsidiary of the British East India Company. In other words, 'the corporation'.

Everything is not a conspiracy.

We have the Supreme court to interrupt and decide if an issue is constitutional or not.
They just ruled on the travel ban, the wedding cake baker and union dues.

This Carl Lentz? I'll pass.

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[ed skull murphy]

From Gus's website, about Karl Lentz:

but ‘i’ did and continue to believe there’s much to learn from

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[Janek12]

I don't care what you think. Starting a thread about the USA like you did, with some video about how our country is/was run and you are not even from the USA? Plus, pretty much saying we have no idea about our own country is run, is an insult. Why? If not to denigrate our intelligence, why do it at all? And no, so far you haven't had a lot of "interest" in this topic. Or they are just not interested in YOUR and your videos opinions.

Worry about "Albion"!

This is one of the reasons why people who do not live in the USA worry about the USA:

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[mack341]

This is one of the reasons why people who do not live in the USA worry about the USA:

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Just to add though, Bush and Obama were very busy at it as well. I don't think Trump is particularly orchestrating it but has left the decision making to the military/pentagon, basically abdicating personal responsibility whereas if he doesn't agree with it he should bring it to a halt, but he would most likely get impeached or worse.

Edit: just read the whole article and it does cover bush and obama's propensity to drop bombs. Its an excellent article written by an american.

 

[ed skull murphy]

This is one of the reasons why people who do not live in the USA worry about the USA:

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Nice piece, makes plenty of important points but I don't believe there is a problem with 'global warming', nor do I believe that Dubya is an idiot.

'It’s not about Bush, even though he has the intelligence of boiled cabbage.'

Good actor, amusing entertainer, certainly. Grandson of Aleister Crowley, most definitely. But unintelligent? Nah.

 

[Janek12]

Just to add though, Bush and Obama were very busy at it as well. I don't think Trump is particularly orchestrating it but has left the decision making to the military/pentagon, basically abdicating personal responsibility whereas if he doesn't agree with it he should bring it to a halt, but he would most likely get impeached or worse.

Yes, I believe Trump does not personally have much to do with it; he is just a New York playboy, a replaceable buffoon who is complicit in it. When he was in Czechoslovakia to attend the funeral of his father-in-law (Ivana Trump's father), still during the socialist regime, in the 1980s, the local state secret police interrogated Ivana Trump and some other people around Donald Trump. As early as that, she mentioned that Donald Trump expected to be elected president in 1996. It is allegedly on record in the files of the secret police.
As we now know, eventually, Clinton was elected instead of him (Trump was still a Democrat then, unless I am mistaken). What I find interesting is that this shows for how long he had been groomed to become a president. The powers behind the stage saw fit to have him elected many years later... His personality probably fits better their current plans...

These are the numbers of bombs for Bush's and Obama's administrations:

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[mack341]

Yes, I believe Trump does not personally have much to do with it; he is just a New York playboy, a replaceable buffoon who is complicit in it. When he was in Czechoslovakia to attend the funeral of his father-in-law (Ivana Trump's father), still during the socialist regime, in the 1980s, the local state secret police interrogated Ivana Trump and some other people around Donald Trump. As early as that, she mentioned that Donald Trump expected to be elected president in 1996. It is allegedly on record in the files of the secret police.
As we now know, eventually, Clinton was elected instead of him (Trump was still a Democrat then, unless I am mistaken). What I find interesting is that this shows for how long he had been groomed to become a president. The powers behind the stage saw fit to have him elected many years later... His personality probably fits better their current plans...

These are the numbers of bombs for Bush's and Obama's administrations:

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The only thing is going by the amount of slating he gets from the media [ putting aside fox tv ] the elite don't like or trust Trump and I think would have preferred hillary the warmonger. When he did order bombs to be dropped on Syria, the democrat media suddenly loved him, make of that what you will.

I think when he was younger he looked a bit more odd with greasy lank hair, his appearance has improved and he looks a bit more statesmen like now.

 

[ed skull murphy]

the elite don't like or trust Trump and I think would have preferred hillary the warmonger.

I'm not so sure, Mack, I think they realised that Clinton would be a liability, especially after the blatant rigging of the primaries that went on, and again when she started having fits on camera or passing out in public.

Plus I believe that Trump is sufficiently compromised that I don't think he would dare to cross the establishment, they could completely ruin and disgrace him in a heartbeat.

 

[Janek12]

The only thing is going by the amount of slating he gets from the media [ putting aside fox tv ] the elite don't like or trust Trump and I think would have preferred hillary the warmonger. When he did order bombs to be dropped on Syria, the democrat media suddenly loved him, make of that what you will.

I personally do not think there is really an "elitist" united front in the media against Trump. I think there is so much to objectively dislike about Trump that for the powers behind the stage, he is a welcomed scapegoat and distraction. He takes up so much attention that there is less capacity, in terms of time and energy, for people to concentrate on other, actual and technical issues. And a lot of people (naturally, especially older people who can better compare these times with the past) are sincerely horrified to see the decline in the class and culture of everything; it is not all Trump's fault, of course, it is the "spirit of the times"; but they associate it with Trump; it is so much easier and simpler to pin it on a single man .

And I do not buy into the division into Democrats and Republicans at all. I think this is just a facade for the public, which has been falling apart for some time already. The war and foreign policies have obviously been the same over the last several decades regardless of whether Democrats or Republicans were in the White House or had a majority wherever...

 

[ed skull murphy]

it is so much easier and simpler to pin it on a single man .

It's easy to change the bird cage liner every four to five years.

The only reason we have democratic elections is to prevent the peasants from revolting every five years, which is what they used to do before getting the vote.

But of course you are correct, our elected representatives have very little say in how the country is run, in fact, from day one, they will be bombarded with lucrative offers from, for example, the Israeli lobby, and also sat down and told of the consequences of going against the political grain, and how that might not be such a good idea. Not to mention the 'honey traps'.

 

[slotplayer]

I've heard it dozens of times by tv media panels both cnn and fox during the past 3 presidents. Mind you these are not a bunch of ex-military people but people that worked in various White House administrations in different rolls.

They all say the same thing, none of the presidents like war/bombing, but then they get in office and read those pdb's (presidential daily briefings)

How did this one work out?

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As far as the comedian goes, I have no reason to doubt him but searched around for a more familiar "main stream" source but could not find one.

However, I'm not surprised the Pentagon can't account for 21 Trillion dollars but I disagree that we can't fathom trillions. The US GDP hit 1 trillion in 1970 and the word trillion has been used ever since so we're (people who pay attention to it that is) all used to hearing it.

But now you know why we don't want to pay any higher taxes, the way they piss through it.

I've also been wondering why there are no terrorist attacks recently. If you know let me know.

I've heard same argument a few times, but I can't help thinking that if the US reduced its military more ruthless nations would rise to super power dominance. Swap the US military might with that of NK.

I don't think the Utopian vision of world peace will emerge. Could be wrong though.

notice the date in the top right.

 

[mack341]

I've heard it dozens of times by tv media panels both cnn and fox during the past 3 presidents. Mind you these are not a bunch of ex-military people but people that worked in various White House administrations in different rolls.

They all say the same thing, none of the presidents like war/bombing, but then they get in office and read those pdb's (presidential daily briefings)

How did this one work out?

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As far as the comedian goes, I have no reason to doubt him but searched around for a more familiar "main stream" source but could not find one.

However, I'm not surprised the Pentagon can't account for 21 Trillion dollars but I disagree that we can't fathom trillions. The US GDP hit 1 trillion in 1970 and the word trillion has been used ever since so we're (people who pay attention to it that is) all used to hearing it.

But now you know why we don't want to pay any higher taxes, the way they piss through it.

I've also been wondering why there are no terrorist attacks recently. If you know let me know.

I've heard same argument a few times, but I can't help thinking that if the US reduced its military more ruthless nations would rise to super power dominance. Swap the US military might with that of NK.

I don't think the Utopian vision of world peace will emerge. Could be wrong though.

notice the date in the top right.

very interesting interview, just shows Trump is consistent, his views 31 years ago are the same today. His right about the money they spend all round the world, but doesn't seem to understand that the idea behind it is to have global power and countries reliant on the US.

Geopolitical control and influence is never going to come cost free but he sees things through a business man's eyes with a focus on profit and loss, he knows financially a Government is basically a big corporation and can't run bankrupt year after year, borrowing more and more money.

He seems to be trying to address the US debt by reducing the trade deficit [using tariffs] and try to get other countries to pay for their own defence [or pay america to defend them].

 

[nikantw]

This is one of the reasons why people who do not live in the USA worry about the USA:

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Best part, (not about bombs):

"and humans are dealing with climate change like adults rather than burying our heads in the sand while trying to convince ourselves that the sand around our heads isn’t getting really, really hot"


Lol, that is exactly what we do about climate change. Although extreme whether events are happening more and more often and the climate is changing everywhere

 

[ed skull murphy]

Best part, (not about bombs):

"and humans are dealing with climate change like adults rather than burying our heads in the sand while trying to convince ourselves that the sand around our heads isn’t getting really, really hot"


Lol, that is exactly what we do about climate change. Although extreme whether events are happening more and more often and the climate is changing everywhere

But Nik, this kind of weather is cyclical, human involvement has very little to do with it; the very hot summers and very cold winters we are experiencing at the moment are linked to the closer proximity of the moon to our planet at this time... and increased solar flare activity, it has absolutely bugger all to do with carbon dioxide; that is just a revenue generating con.

 

[mack341]

But Nik, this kind of weather is cyclical, human involvement has very little to do with it; the very hot summers and very cold winters we are experiencing at the moment are linked to the closer proximity of the moon to our planet at this time... and increased solar flare activity, it has absolutely bugger all to do with carbon dioxide; that is just a revenue generating con.

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I do think we unnecessarily pollute the seas and land but it doesn't make the sun hotter, does the gases and air pollution create a small greenhouse affect, I'm not sure. I'm open to thinking its a con the way the media and establishment react to anyone who tries to challenge the scientific theory.

 

[ed skull murphy]

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I do think we unnecessarily pollute the seas and land but it doesn't make the sun hotter, does the gases and air pollution create a small greenhouse affect, I'm not sure. I'm open to thinking its a con the way the media and establishment react to anyone who tries to challenge the scientific theory.

The largest volume of greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is water vapour, it's around 70-80% i think, off the top of my head. Carbon Dioxide volume is negligible, and any that is produced here on earth will stay here on earth because it is heavier than the other gases in air, and nature's reason for that is so that it will hang around the vegetation where it is needed. Increased CO2 will actually cool down the temperatures on earth by boosting the growth of vegetation, which absorbs solar energy.

Air pollution is another thing altogether, but that has nothing to do with climate change.

It is a con, Mack, you must have heard of carbon credits, and carbon tax? The Rothschilds will be handling that lucrative little racket.

The botanist David Bellamy lost his cosy job at the BBC because he ridiculed 'global warming' and wouldn't back down.

 

[slotplayer]

very interesting interview, just shows Trump is consistent, his views 31 years ago are the same today. His right about the money they spend all round the world, but doesn't seem to understand that the idea behind it is to have global power and countries reliant on the US.

Geopolitical control and influence is never going to come cost free but he sees things through a business man's eyes with a focus on profit and loss, he knows financially a Government is basically a big corporation and can't run bankrupt year after year, borrowing more and more money.

He seems to be trying to address the US debt by reducing the trade deficit [using tariffs] and try to get other countries to pay for their own defence [or pay america to defend them].

I know, many of his views were the same back then as now. Eventually the debt will catch up but look at Japan now.
Most the NATO countries are not paying their 2% of GDP. US is paying the most, this allows those countries to use that money to improve domestically.

Well, If/when the radical left here rises to power and transforms the US in to Venezuela on steroids China will emerge as the dominant super power, good luck with that.

 

[mack341]

The largest volume of greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is water vapour, it's around 70-80% i think, off the top of my head. Carbon Dioxide volume is negligible, and any that is produced here on earth will stay here on earth because it is heavier than the other gases in air, and nature's reason for that is so that it will hang around the vegetation where it is needed. Increased CO2 will actually cool down the temperatures on earth by boosting the growth of vegetation, which absorbs solar energy.

Air pollution is another thing altogether, but that has nothing to do with climate change.

It is a con, Mack, you must have heard of carbon credits, and carbon tax? The Rothschilds will be handling that lucrative little racket.

The botanist David Bellamy lost his cosy job at the BBC because he ridiculed 'global warming' and wouldn't back down.

No I haven't heard about carbon credits, carbon tax rings a bell though. Funny you should mention bellamy I was saying to somebody the other day 'I wonder why you never see david bellamy on the tv anymore' Its like he had vanished, I thought he must have become a recluse or something.

That's terrible making him an outcast because he holds a different view, he's not a simpleton like me he's a professor, this is what worries me, the media and establishment's refusal to engage in rational argument or accept a different opinion, it is not a good sign of a healthy democratic society.

 

[nikantw]

The largest volume of greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is water vapour, it's around 70-80% i think, off the top of my head. Carbon Dioxide volume is negligible, and any that is produced here on earth will stay here on earth because it is heavier than the other gases in air, and nature's reason for that is so that it will hang around the vegetation where it is needed. Increased CO2 will actually cool down the temperatures on earth by boosting the growth of vegetation, which absorbs solar energy.

Air pollution is another thing altogether, but that has nothing to do with climate change.

It is a con, Mack, you must have heard of carbon credits, and carbon tax? The Rothschilds will be handling that lucrative little racket.

The botanist David Bellamy lost his cosy job at the BBC because he ridiculed 'global warming' and wouldn't back down.

The fact that people in power will use it to benefit from anything, doesn't mean we should stop thinking or learning or searching for true evidence and science.

 

[mack341]

I know, many of his views were the same back then as now. Eventually the debt will catch up but look at Japan now.
Most the NATO countries are not paying their 2% of GDP. US is paying the most, this allows those countries to use that money to improve domestically.

Well, If/when the radical left here rises to power and transforms the US in to Venezuela on steroids China will emerge as the dominant super power, good luck with that.

According to paul craig roberts who knows a bit about economics, its wall street off shoring production of US products to china that is helping china grow while damaging the US standard of living through unemployment. Its the same here in uk and europe, the majority of all consumer products [with the exception of food] are manufactured in china and then imported. Obviously china uses its surplus on economic infrastructure and military power, I can't see china and the US ever at war though.

 

[slotplayer]

No idea about the whole Climate Change thing but found this article
to be interesting. Long ago I saw a Cosmos tv show saying what is happening on Venus will happen on Earth. The right side bar does mention it as well.

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[mack341]

The fact that people in power will use it to benefit from anything, doesn't mean we should stop thinking or learning or searching for true evidence and science.

no,no,no, this monbiot bloke is ringing alarm bells in me, david bellamy is salt of the earth who struggles in discussions because of his speech defect, and monbiot is going on about a consensus among the pro manmade climate change scientists must mean bellamy is wrong. That is a weak argument when any scientists who try to do research in the other direction won't get any funding and will lose their job.

 

[Steviedoo]

This is one of the reasons why people who do not live in the USA worry about the USA:

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Is there any truth to this article?

And doesn’t say why we are bombing?

The world needs the big bad USA. Like it or not.

 

[mack341]

Is there any truth to this article?

And doesn’t say why we are bombing?

The world needs the big bad USA. Like it or not.

In the article it does say
"The Pentagon’s numbers show that during George W. Bush’s eight years he averaged 24 bombs dropped per day, which is 8,750 per year. Over the course of Obama’s time in office, his military dropped 34 bombs per day, 12,500 per year. And in Trump’s first year in office, he averaged 121 bombs dropped per day, for an annual total of 44,096.

Trump’s military dropped 44,000 bombs in his first year in office."

The world needs the good USA not the big bad one.

 

[slotplayer]

According to paul craig roberts who knows a bit about economics, its wall street off shoring production of US products to china that is helping china grow while damaging the US standard of living through unemployment. Its the same here in uk and europe, the majority of all consumer products [with the exception of food] are manufactured in china and then imported. Obviously china uses its surplus on economic infrastructure and military power, I can't see china and the US ever at war though.

The Unemployment rate here was 3.8% but ticked up to 4%, (the data came out last Friday) because 600,000 went back to look for jobs. There are actually more jobs than people looking for them here. It was average 6 people looking for a job, now its average .95 people looking for a job, so effectively a job is available for every person looking for one.

There is talk that 2nd quarter GDP growth will hit 4-5%, that data is release on the 27th of July. Of course Trumps trade dispute could undo it all if it gets out of hand.

I'd have to go back and compare quarters closely but just from the glimpses of the graphs on the Business news it looks like manufacturing jobs are significant again. It used to be medical, retail that topped the charts.

yes, your economist is right, Corporations do it all the time because labor cost here are too high. The biggest bill a corporation has is payroll, cut that, sell it for the same price and you've just increased profit margins substantially.

Go Google epacket and ebay sellers and China IP theft

I was not thinking a war between China/US as the US would be nothing at that point, I meant they'd come after other country's land/resources once theirs ran out.

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[ed skull murphy]

The fact that people in power will use it to benefit from anything, doesn't mean we should stop thinking or learning or searching for true evidence and science.

He was hardly humiliated by Monbiot, the corporate shill who writes lies for the Guardian. Come on Nik, you'll have to do better than that, me old son...

 

[slotplayer]

Is there any truth to this article?

And doesn’t say why we are bombing?

The world needs the big bad USA. Like it or not.

Here's another by him.

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[ed skull murphy]

No idea about the whole Climate Change thing but found this article
to be interesting. Long ago I saw a Cosmos tv show saying what is happening on Venus will happen on Earth. The right side bar does mention it as well.

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Well NASA told us they landed on the moon which is a lie, they told us they have been to Mars, which is laughable. I would be inclined to ignore any information coming from NASA, in fact I can't even be arsed to read the article.

The climate changes constantly, it is perfectly natural. I remember weather like this back in the mid seventies, back then they were blaming it on a hole in the ozone layer, and what a crock of shit that turned out to be.

 

[mack341]

The Unemployment rate here was 3.8% but ticked up to 4%, (the data came out last Friday) because 600,000 went back to look for jobs. There are actually more jobs than people looking for them here. It was average 6 people looking for a job, now its average .95 people looking for a job, so effectively a job is available for every person looking for one.

There is talk that 2nd quarter GDP growth will hit 4-5%, that data is release on the 27th of July. Of course Trumps trade dispute could undo it all if it gets out of hand.

I'd have to go back and compare quarters closely but just from the glimpses of the graphs on the Business news it looks like manufacturing jobs are significant again. It used to be medical, retail that topped the charts.

yes, your economist is right, Corporations do it all the time because labor cost here are too high. The biggest bill a corporation has is payroll, cut that, sell it for the same price and you've just increased profit margins substantially.

Go Google epacket and ebay sellers and China IP theft

I was not thinking a war between China/US as the US would be nothing at that point, I meant they'd come after other country's land/resources once theirs ran out.

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[mack341]

The Unemployment rate here was 3.8% but ticked up to 4%, (the data came out last Friday) because 600,000 went back to look for jobs. There are actually more jobs than people looking for them here. It was average 6 people looking for a job, now its average .95 people looking for a job, so effectively a job is available for every person looking for one.

There is talk that 2nd quarter GDP growth will hit 4-5%, that data is release on the 27th of July. Of course Trumps trade dispute could undo it all if it gets out of hand.

I'd have to go back and compare quarters closely but just from the glimpses of the graphs on the Business news it looks like manufacturing jobs are significant again. It used to be medical, retail that topped the charts.

yes, your economist is right, Corporations do it all the time because labor cost here are too high. The biggest bill a corporation has is payroll, cut that, sell it for the same price and you've just increased profit margins substantially.

Go Google epacket and ebay sellers and China IP theft

I was not thinking a war between China/US as the US would be nothing at that point, I meant they'd come after other country's land/resources once theirs ran out.

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just a quick point, Paul craig roberts was the United States Assitant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic policy under President Reagan in 1981, editor of the wsj, professor of economics at George Mason university etc.. And he is pretty scathing about the economic, political and media situation in america.

The saying 'there are lies, damned lies, and statistics' comes to mind with any govt figures re unemployment [same here in the uk]

 

[slotplayer]

I found a couple articles, I noticed one says Obama dropped 79% of the bombs and the coalition the rest, but did not list the coalition countries. "His research concluded that the US dropped 79 per cent of all 30,743 coalition bombs in 2016."

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Then there is this one

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The right/left media here covered for Obama, just like these UK media stories left out the coalition countries.
The right here because they're war hawks, the left because Obama was their guy. How sad its all become.

If I had my way I'd remove all US troops worldwide, close all foreign US bases, not put a cent in NATO and let the chips fall where they may. I'd spend that money at home.

 

[ed skull murphy]

If I had my way I'd remove all US troops worldwide, close all foreign US bases, not put a cent in NATO and let the chips fall where they may. I'd spend that money at home.

I think that is what most of the world is praying for.

 

[slotplayer]

just a quick point, Paul craig roberts was the United States Assitant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic policy under President Reagan in 1981, editor of the wsj, professor of economics at George Mason university etc.. And he is pretty scathing about the economic, political and media situation in america.

The saying 'there are lies, damned lies, and statistics' comes to mind with any govt figures re unemployment [same here in the uk]

We don't say that here yet but its changing for sure. Leftish nations tend to hide/spin stats. America's still a center right country for now.

Although during the Obama admin the US changed the way GDP is calculated, so I now take the number with a grain of salt.

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Never heard of Paul, never saw him on tv either but I'll check him out.

Art Laffer is the Reagan Economic Adviser rolled out here. I'm not too big on him but the media seems to be.



tbh, I don't need to see stats, I just see all the hiring signs up here and all the housing being built everywhere.

 

[weesie]

This is hilarious now. Probably not the correct thread to put it in, but still, priceless!

 

[goatwack]

I'd like to know at what turn in the road it went from Disney to Trump in this thread

 

[slotplayer]

Well NASA told us they landed on the moon which is a lie, they told us they have been to Mars, which is laughable. I would be inclined to ignore any information coming from NASA, in fact I can't even be arsed to read the article.

The climate changes constantly, it is perfectly natural. I remember weather like this back in the mid seventies, back then they were blaming it on a hole in the ozone layer, and what a crock of shit that turned out to be.

NASA is highly respected here. Read it, don't read it. That's fine, others may find it interesting.

I remember the same ozone thing but afaik that came from European scientists, years later they also said it was shrinking.

 

[pinnit2014]

I don't dare ask Ed's views on diesel cars and NOx

 

[goatwack]

Should have a regular weekly segment: "Ed Answers"

I'll start.

Are clouds made of candy floss?

 

[slotplayer]

I'd like to know at what turn in the road it went from Disney to Trump in this thread

its a lot more civil though with ed and mack.