Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

[bamberfishcake]

Shame about all the bickering when the real issue is about the freedom to make a choice.

 

[goatwack]

Free choice and autonomy are dirty words regarding this particular hot potato, and seemingly the discord sown over the last couple of years has meant that one 'side' is predisposed to attack the other through sheer conditioning, all the while losing sight of the fact that yes, it's still about personal freedoms.

Amazing how throwaway those have become in regards to being strong-armed into compliance, yet were this about anything else, say, a global ban on people's mobile phones, or streaming platform prohibition, people of the world would unite in an outpouring of grief and solidarity

 

[goatwack]

I did wonder if it was just bravado, and whether they could maintain their their bluff. Yet seemingly, NHS workers told to get the jab or face sacking will not be held under that edict....

Bungling incompetence, outright fear by the Government at losing its 'little people' workforce (because Bezos, Gates, Shwab etc aren't trained in medicine and so won't do the job themselves you see), or just another soon-to-be-reneged pledge, WHO KNOWS.

Will be interesting to see how other countries follow through on their ultimatums too, especially the more hardline ones, as governments and authorities all diminish the effects of Covid now, as though in unison, maybe realizing these bully-boy tactics aren't really sustainable in the long-term ?

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[geordiecolin]

I did wonder if it was just bravado, and whether they could maintain their their bluff. Yet seemingly, NHS workers told to get the jab or face sacking will not be held under that edict....

Bungling incompetence, outright fear by the Government at losing its 'little people' workforce (because Bezos, Gates, Shwab etc aren't trained in medicine and so won't do the job themselves you see), or just another soon-to-be-reneged pledge, WHO KNOWS.

Will be interesting to see how other countries follow through on their ultimatums too, especially the more hardline ones, as governments and authorities all diminish the effects of Covid now, as though in unison, maybe realizing these bully-boy tactics aren't really sustainable in the long-term ?

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It falls in line with them playing brinkmanship and pushing fear porn in order to push folk into getting jabbed. I told my carer and nhs friends that they would roll back on the mandate at the last minute.

 

[ReaskerOlon]

Does covid interfere with your daily life? Yes, for me...

 

[geordiecolin]

They can not continue to ignore the mounting evidence that natural immunity is sufficient for all but those who are vulnerable. 146 studies outlining the fact. And the CDC and media ignore them all

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[interlog]

They can not continue to ignore the mounting evidence that natural immunity is sufficient for all but those who are vulnerable. 146 studies outlining the fact. And the CDC and media ignore them all

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An article from a far-right news source. It's the equivalent of those opposing your views quoting from a woke news source

 

[pinnit2014]

True, but same as some posters quoting left outlets, far right doesn't make anything more legitimate

The truth, as has always been, is somewhere lodged in the middle

Unfortunately, the middle seems a dirtier(s) word than far left, or far right.

 

[geordiecolin]

An article from a far-right news source. It's the equivalent of those opposing your views quoting from a woke news source

Sorry that all of those studies do not have Fauci or Whittie's name to them

 

[goatwack]

Today's opinions amount to a polarity of 'good' versus 'evil', such is the current zeitgeist. It's just not right or acceptable to have balanced views these days, you have to be aligned with one extreme narrative or the other, because that's easier for people to digest.

Was a time once, long ago, where people didn't lose their marbles over the slightest thing, and could attempt to have constructive, if not always agreed upon, debate. There was also a thing called common sense. I'll type that again.....

'C-o-m-m-o-n

S-e-n-s-e'

Actually looks quite weird now, in hindsight. Must be getting old

 

[pinnit2014]

Feels like we have reached the Sun's headline expectation of 'EVIL person does X,Y,Z.....

NHS numbers right....well....to an extent yes,BUT.....

Instead of debating them, those who say overstated are called conspiracy theorists, understated are called granny killing zealots by the likes of Owen Jones etc.

Asked to have an informed opinion it's akin to 'pick a side mate'

You agree with labour re immigration, tory re economics (the current govt an exception) - outcast

You think the current welfare state hates the middle classes who pay in - outcast, u working class hater etc. Well, er, no, i just don't think it's fit for purpose.

 

[goatwack]

Feels like we have reached the Sun's headline expectation of 'EVIL person does X,Y,Z.....

NHS numbers right....well....to an extent yes,BUT.....

Instead of debating them, those who say overstated are called conspiracy theorists, understated are called granny killing zealots by the likes of Owen Jones etc.

Asked to have an informed opinion it's akin to 'pick a side mate'

You agree with labour re immigration, tory re economics (the current govt an exception) - outcast

You think the current welfare state hates the middle classes who pay in - outcast, u working class hater etc. Well, er, no, i just don't think it's fit for purpose.

This is why all one can do is just sit back and watch the fireworks when all these 'good' ideologies and principles start conflicting with one another, as I guess they can't all be right......can they?

 

[geordiecolin]

This is why all one can do is just sit back and watch the fireworks when all these 'good' ideologies and principles start conflicting with one another, as I guess they can't all be right......can they?

The powers that be could start by opening up a dialogue with scientists with conflicting views for a start instead of getting them canceled. That is how real scientific studies have historically been conducted.

 

[bamberfishcake]

The division is a construct of the powers that be.

Divide and conquer. A bit like racism being fuelled by media. We should have squashed that one years ago. I don't know anybody who is a racist, but apparently, you can be racist now by others deciding so because you spoke the wrong word or said something the wrong way. 99% of people are friendly at heart.

 

[geordiecolin]

The division is a construct of the powers that be.

Divide and conquer. A bit like racism being fuelled by media. We should have squashed that one years ago. I don't know anybody who is a racist, but apparently, you can be racist now by others deciding so because you spoke the wrong word or said something the wrong way. 99% of people are friendly at heart.

Look,look over there ->

 

[pinnit2014]

This is why all one can do is just sit back and watch the fireworks when all these 'good' ideologies and principles start conflicting with one another, as I guess they can't all be right......can they?

I sit back and go 'i wonder if that pressure washer has ruined my slabs'

I mean, they're the real victim in all this.

 

[geordiecolin]

I sit back and go 'i wonder if that pressure washer has ruined my slags'

I mean, they're the real victim in all this.

That paints a filthy image

 

[pinnit2014]

That paints a filthy image

Filthy would be an improvement

 

[pinnit2014]

And hey, i've not seen that much pressure since 1998

 

[geordiecolin]

Trudeau's "media availability" is that he has the coof and is off grid for the coming week. That avoids the truckers then!

 

[Kroffe]

Was a time once, long ago, where people didn't lose their marbles over the slightest thing.

 

[geordiecolin]

Here is the propaganda using the same type of actors that have done their work in America. He is performing well despite of having coof for the 2nd time and be fully vaxxed. The guy even had his paid for media accusing Russia for causing it. So many Russians mastering French and English while passing their heavy good truck licenses while dealing with their love of vodka in charge of a truck

 

[slotplayer]

The last 20+ seconds: Behind the Scenes at Big Pharma cracked me up.

 

[geordiecolin]

Cancel cancel cancel.
Dictatorship loving Trudeau




Doctors being honest

 

[TheAddict]

Cancel cancel cancel.
Dictatorship loving Trudeau

 

[bamberfishcake]

I'm not in favour of blatant abuse, or name-calling, but when leaders of countries treat their people with contempt, I find it hard to not think they deserve it, after all, how else do you communicate your discontent when they refuse open dialogue.

 

[TheAddict]

"Almost one in 10 people in the UK – 9% – have still not had a single dose. Health experts and policymakers are urgently trying to figure out why."


Do these experts not understand what Go f*** yourself means?

 

[goatwack]

I'm not in favour of blatant abuse, or name-calling, but when leaders of countries treat their people with contempt, I find it hard to not think they deserve it, after all, how else do you communicate your discontent when they refuse open dialogue.

I agree to an extent, but what I've seen is that more people are naturally becoming aware of what's going on, how politicians and experts have conducted themselves over the last couple of years, and so one doesn't even have to lose their shit over it, whether it be through angry protests or snarky selfies.

It's just as annoying seeing rabid ' Covid vax-opposers' being so black-pilled about everything, that their protestations eventually fall on deaf ears, as it makes them look foolish. All that's happening now is that our glorious leaders are being 'found out' for past deeds, in these situations all one can do is sit back and watch them scuttle their own careers, Johnson, Trudeau, Biden, that erm Austrian fellow etc

Tricking politicians and slinging insults is the kind of stoopid- ass behaviour that diminishes any argument that 'side' may have had, and so validates their treatment of the everyday Joe, and most certainly 'anti- vaxxers'

 

[mack341]

Haven't double checked the calculation but a strange coincidence if true...?‍?

 

[dionysus]

only if you fudge the numbers to fit a narrative
all the Ireland and UK restriction dates depend upon how you interpret 'lockdown'
But people who look for patterns - even if they have to 'sort of force them a bit' ' will find them


UK

Ireland

 

[dionysus]

Also, March 23 2020 - Jan 19 2022 is 667 days

 

[goatwack]

Yeah it's true, I love Right Said Fred. There, I said it

Satanic predictions or not, who knew they'd be championing alternative viewpoints about Covid, amongst other things, from this:

But actually, when interviewed on any given subject, Richard Fairbrass is pretty based, it must be said

 

[geordiecolin]

only if you fudge the numbers to fit a narrative
all the Ireland and UK restriction dates depend upon how you interpret 'lockdown'
But people who look for patterns - even if they have to 'sort of force them a bit' ' will find them


UK

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Nice to see that you are wising up a little Dion to the bullshit

 

[dionysus]

I've thought

Yeah it's true, I love Right Said Fred. There, I said it

Satanic predictions or not, who knew they'd be championing alternative viewpoints about Covid, amongst other things, from this:

But actually, when interviewed on any given subject, Richard Fairbrass is pretty based, it must be said

sshh, dont talk, just kiss, pun'kin

 

[goatwack]

I've thought

sshh, dont talk, just kiss, pun'kin

You played our song! ?

 

[mack341]

Yeah it's true, I love Right Said Fred. There, I said it

Satanic predictions or not, who knew they'd be championing alternative viewpoints about Covid, amongst other things, from this:

But actually, when interviewed on any given subject, Richard Fairbrass is pretty based, it must be said

I knew you had a bit of a soft spot for them! ... I must admit going back to the 90's with the amount of scantily clad females featuring in their vids I got the wrong end of that stick

 

[Kroffe]

I've thought

sshh, dont talk, just kiss, pun'kin

 

[bamberfishcake]

I have performed 'I'm Too Sexy' on a karaoke stage with my Dad and Uncle.....good times!

I think......although there was no shirt ripping and no scantily clad females (thank god, most were my Aunties and Cousins). Were not the 'lets get em pa' types.

 

[bamberfishcake]

This story suggests vaccine passports and microchips are on the way regardless, a brief mention of online gambling also.....



Better book that holiday before I'm confined to my home for not wanting an injection.

 

[sufferinsilence]

This story suggests vaccine passports and microchips are on the way regardless, a brief mention of online gambling also.....



Better book that holiday before I'm confined to my home for not wanting an injection.

Well.. TBH that holiday wouldn't bother me but not being able to gamble because you're not vaccinated would be a big no-no and time to riot in Brussels.

 

[geordiecolin]

Jasinta Trudeau taking a leaf out of Communist China's book.

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Police officers support the protest but are being suppressed

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I can see Fidel Trudeau using bad actors BLM activists and Antifa to give him an excuse to go hard on the truckers

 

[geordiecolin]

 

[Steviedoo]

Jasinta Trudeau taking a leaf out of Communist China's book.

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Police officers support the protest but are being suppressed

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I can see Fidel Trudeau using bad actors BLM activists and Antifa to give him an excuse to go hard on the truckers

Yes cuz Trudeau cancelled the go fund me. I’m not his biggest fan but that’s reaching.

 

[slotplayer]

Lock him up to Stevie!

 

[Steviedoo]

Lock him up to Stevie!

He has nice hair tho.

 

[geordiecolin]

May their god bless these people
The armed forces are not interested in getting involved it seems.

 

[goatwack]

Amazing isn't it, the gaslighting on display by Trudeau. In fact, the 'calibre' of modern politician is grotesque, whereby any shred of fairness and equality seemingly went out of the window years ago, to be replaced by bias, pettiness, projection and 'feelings'.

Because let's face it, troublesome these trucker protests may be to some, ultimately the protests are aimed at freedom of choice, something these pseudo- politicians use as sound bites to get elected, but treat as disposable once in office.

How Trudeau can claim to govern a free country and yet align himself with non- governmental political movements like BLM is beyond most people's comprehension, not forgetting the guy's done more Blackface than I've had hot dinners, and surely it's a leader's job to act reasonably to various denizens' concerns, not just the ones he thinks will win him Twitter Points.

And let's not beat around the bush, the guy got voted in based on his looks, hell, even my partner loved his luscious locks all them years ago, much to my disdain

Sad to see him throw out the 'Nazi' & 'Far- Right' rhetoric now, quite pitiful really, as I struggle to see the correlation. But I guess when all else fails, right?

 

[geordiecolin]

Amazing isn't it, the gaslighting on display by Trudeau. In fact, the 'calibre' of modern politician is grotesque, whereby any shred of fairness and equality seemingly went out of the window years ago, to be replaced by bias, pettiness, projection and 'feelings'.

Because let's face it, troublesome these trucker protests may be to some, ultimately the protests are aimed at freedom of choice, something these pseudo- politicians use as sound bites to get elected, but treat as disposable once in office.

How Trudeau can claim to govern a free country and yet align himself with non- governmental political movements like BLM is beyond most people's comprehension, not forgetting the guy's done more Blackface than I've had hot dinners, and surely it's a leader's job to act reasonably to various denizens' concerns, not just the ones he thinks will win him Twitter Points.

And let's not beat around the bush, the guy got voted in based on his looks, hell, even my partner loved his luscious locks all them years ago, much to my disdain

Sad to see him throw out the 'Nazi' & 'Far- Right' rhetoric now, quite pitiful really, as I struggle to see the correlation. But I guess when all else fails, right?

It is totally criminal to prevent folk from tending to their needs if they wish too. Either the police or the people. Forcing gofundme to block access to their money is illegal and dictatorial.
I think a stitch up of some sort is being lined up for them but the world is watching and so are the Canadian citizens

 

[geordiecolin]

“in January of 2021. They introduced the vaccine, they mandated the vaccine for the U.S. military members. And in just the first 10 months of that vaccination year, anxiety jumped from 37,000 typically prior to that to 931,791 cases. It was a 2,400 plus percent increase.”

She went on to say that breast cancer was “pretty formulaic,” ranging from 500 to 900 cases for the five years prior to the introduction of the mandatory vaccination.

“First 10 months or 2021. They were at 4,068 cases. Again, it was about 450 some odd percent increase.

“Female infertility 2,200 cases a year a bad year would be 2,300 cases a year, first 10 months of 2021 after the vaccine 10,713 cases. ”

Even diseases that have not been connected so far with the vaccines saw a dramatic spike.

“Esophageal cancer in the U.S. military. Very, very minimal. Twenty-five, 26 cases, maybe a bad year is 39 cases. Jumps to 200 plus cases,” Dundas said.

“January acute myocarditis was in 176 cases, but now it’s practically down to 70 … bad that stuff going on,” she continued.

“Bell’s palsy 400 cases a year on average in the first 10 months of 2021 over 1,300 cases. Cognitive issues way up altered mental status way up. Congenital male malformations doubled.

“HIV 400 cases on average [per year] and now over 2,400 cases in the first 10 months.”

Miscarriages​

According to the whistleblower documents, miscarriages in the military were at 1,400 to 1,500 a year in the first three quarters of 2020, and it increased to over 4,000 during the first 10 months of 2021.

The Epoch Times reached out to Dr. Christiane Northrup, a board-certified obstetrician-gynecologist with more than 30 years of experience and the former president of the American Holistic Medical Association.

Particularly alarming is the increase in miscarriages, she said.

“Here’s what we were finding—starting in April of 2021. All of us in the five Doc’s group, Dr. Lee Merritt, Dr. Carrie Madej, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, and Dr. Larry Palevsky, and me. We were hearing stories from all over the country about women who were having abnormal bleeding, miscarriages, and stillbirths, just from being around the people who had recently had the shot,” Northrup told The Epoch Times.

“We all got together and we said, Wait a minute. We’ve got to study this,” Northrup went on.

“People that I knew in the fertility business, we’re finding that all these women were having problems. I was getting a lot of personal calls. ‘What do I do?’ … we were very concerned.”

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[sledge13]

Trudeaux one of the most dangerous men on the planet, utter scumbag