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Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

geordiecolin said:
Many of her friends where posting that she was in the right place. The right place was where she caught it and was lucky not to have caught it 6 weeks ago.
Something needs addressing IMO
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Thats the problem though, and something people don't understand when they say xx beds are empty. You can't put covid patients in with non covid ones. So you could have say 10 wards of 6 beds, 5 with one patient in each (different wards for different problems) so 25 free beds, and also have 5 wards of 6 beds which are full with covid patients. If you get another covid patient, you have ran out of beds. You can't put one in one of the empty ones in case others catch it.
The figures would show about 45% empty beds, but in fact, for covid patients there are 0% free beds.

The hospital trust should be took to task about what happened in this case.
 
colinsunderland said:
Thats the problem though, and something people don't understand when they say xx beds are empty. You can't put covid patients in with non covid ones. So you could have say 10 wards of 6 beds, 5 with one patient in each (different wards for different problems) so 25 free beds, and also have 5 wards of 6 beds which are full with covid patients. If you get another covid patient, you have ran out of beds. You can't put one in one of the empty ones in case others catch it.
The figures would show about 45% empty beds, but in fact, for covid patients there are 0% free beds.

The hospital trust should be took to task about what happened in this case.
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She had stated at the turn of the year that the ward nurse had said there where 150 patients with covid. The next day it was over 600 so they had to shut down wards to house new covid Hot Wards. No wonder they are reluctant to do non urgent operations. After an op your immunity and body is vulnerable
 
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geordiecolin said:
She had stated at the turn of the year that theward nurse had said their where 150 patients with covid. The next day it was over 600 so they had to shut down wards to house new covid Hot Wards. No wonder they are reluctant to do non urgent operations. After an op your immunity and body is vulnerable
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Yeah I can imagine, people think it's a choice to cancel operations, but it isn't a lot of the time :(
 
And yet another one.
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It is either going to get to the stage with all these mutations that the vaccines will work and virus will die away slowly, or it will end up mutating into something a lot more serious that vaccines will not beat.
 
colinsunderland said:
Yeah I can imagine, people think it's a choice to cancel operations, but it isn't a lot of the time :(
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Bravo to those who have private healthcare!
I am sure that at least in some parts of the Country they could have converted hospitals in to covid only to prevent it surging through hospitals
 
geordiecolin said:
Bravo to those who have private healthcare!
I am sure that at least in some parts of the Country they could have converted hospitals in to covid only to prevent it surging through hospitals
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I'm not sure about now, but you would have been safe around you up to at least a few weeks ago, as all the cases were being sent to Sunderland from South Tyneside to keep it clean.
I have a feeling they did that in Newcastle during the first lockdown too, as my friend was in for a cancer op at the Freeman in April and they hadn't had a single case there.
 
souldragon said:
I didn't say i didn't like it.I have followed it for the majority of the time but most of the opinions are just being regurgitated by the same people and throwing up different facts and figures to support their particular view.Whether that is putting people off is a mute point.And yes i completely agree that the number of regular posters is probably in single figures and it would be good to see more participation from the silent majority.However that is just my point of view,obviously others disagree which is their perogative .
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This thread is very much UK aimed lately, except "but Sweden", and doesn't invite people to join in and post. It's hard to join in here with basically anything, alot of people are in their own echo chamber screaming into the void. Me included probably. This is just a very toxic topic on the forum and could use some better moderation.
 
sufferinsilence said:
This thread is very much UK aimed lately, except "but Sweden", and doesn't invite people to join in and post. It's hard to join in here with basically anything, alot of people are in their own echo chamber screaming into the void. Me included probably. This is just a very toxic topic on the forum and could use some better moderation.
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We read it. :) And agreed, toxic at times. I've even championed to have it closed. But the reality is, it's an omnipresent factor in everyones lives. And there are some salient points when sifting wheat from chafff.

To moderation, it would be a full time endeavour. Better to PM admin or report if needs must :)
 
dionysus said:
We read it. :) And agreed, toxic at times. I've even championed to have it closed. But the reality is, it's an omnipresent factor in everyones lives. And there are some salient points when sifting wheat from chafff.

To moderation, it would be a full time endeavour. Better to PM admin or report if needs must :)
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Can you read whilst crying?

Impressive :p
 
pinnit2014 said:
Can you read whilst crying?

Impressive :p
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Well, my dying cancer-ridden, can barely breathe doggo, 2 feet away makes it diffifcult, but I try my best, so I'm doing what I can :thumbsup:
 
To be fair this thread ebbs and flows and it will never be as inclusive to anyone as much as they like if they want it to always include their own "bubble"
I am sorry to have included a very person (Not really to me on a personal basis) UK based perspective into this thread.
But that does sound a little like "I am over here"
You can not expect a mod to step in and say "We have active members who may be alien to what you are talking about so stop it".
You have the power at your fingers or access to other forums. Surely?
*Just to add. If I have misunderstood your meaning to your post then I am very happy to retract the above :)
 
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It's a world-wide issue, and granted some places and spaces are hit harder and are harder done by ...UK and US... for example.

I rarely post here now as our country isnt as poorly affected. But I keep apprised (and care)- believe me, I'm cognizant of impact.
 
dionysus said:
Well, my dying cancer-ridden, can barely breathe doggo, 2 feet away makes it diffifcult, but I try my best, so I'm doing what I can :thumbsup:
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I am truly sorry to hear that Dion. It is not a time for worrying about your mod duties in the forum when your busy at home so much as well as dealing with things we don't see for this site.
Keep your chin up
 
geordiecolin said:
To be fair this thread ebbs and flows and it will never be as inclusive to anyone as much as they like if they want it to always include their own "bubble"
I am sorry to have included a very person (Not really to me on a personal basis) UK based perspective into this thread.
But that does sound a little like "I am over here"
You can not expect a mod to step in and say "We have active members who may be alien to what you are talking about so stop it".
You have the power at your fingers or access to other forums. Surely?
*Just to add. If I have misunderstood your meaning to your post then I am very happy to retract the above :)
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Oh, I wasn't implying to the fact that moderators should step in to say "hey, now talk about the situation in China instead!". Just pointing out that the fact is that alot of the discussions are solely about the UK and that might be a reason people don't chip in. I'll keep on posting something whenever I think it might add to the thread. People can either react or they don't, that's something I can't control :p
The comment about the mods is a different issue, if there is a little more active moderation in the thread it might not get out of hand like it sometimes does and then the thread just gets closed for the day :oops:
 
geordiecolin said:
I am truly sorry to hear that Dion. It is not a time for worrying about your mod duties in the forum when your busy at home so much as well as dealing with things we don't see for this site.
Keep your chin up
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Cheers.I come and work as able now
But truly, that appplies to all staff. Few will ever be privvy to what everyone is going through personally outside of the boards, be they member or staff.
I can say, everyone tries, as able and the fact everyone is trying, is a testament to strength.

I truly, wish, for everyone, 2021 is a better year and this virus takes a back seat to life concerns :)
 
sufferinsilence said:
The comment about the mods is a different issue, if there is a little more active moderation in the thread it might not get out of hand like it sometimes does and then the thread just gets closed for the day :oops:
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We try and have an awkward balance of appeasement :)
 
sufferinsilence said:
Oh, I wasn't implying to the fact that moderators should step in to say "hey, now talk about the situation in China instead!". Just pointing out that the fact is that alot of the discussions are solely about the UK and that might be a reason people don't chip in. I'll keep on posting something whenever I think it might add to the thread. People can either react or they don't, that's something I can't control :p
The comment about the mods is a different issue, if there is a little more active moderation in the thread it might not get out of hand like it sometimes does and then the thread just gets closed for the day :oops:
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To be fair, I like reading about other countries as it can show what they are doing and how well it's working, plus what you read in the media isn't usually what it's like on the ground.
However I can't talk about what it's like in say Spain, as I genuinely don't know, I've read little snippets from the news and stuff but thats about it, same for pretty much the whole world. So I talk about the UK, because thats what I know :). There are people from all over the world on here, the thread is only uk centric as no one really posts from anywhere else, which is a shame.
 
dionysus said:
We try and have an awkward balance of appeaseme
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colinsunderland said:
To be fair, I like reading about other countries as it can show what they are doing and how well it's working, plus what you read in the media isn't usually what it's like on the ground.
However I can't talk about what it's like in say Spain, as I genuinely don't know, I've read little snippets from the news and stuff but thats about it, same for pretty much the whole world. So I talk about the UK, because thats what I know :). There are people from all over the world on here, the thread is only uk centric as no one really posts from anywhere else, which is a shame.
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I think that we all are allowed to have wrong nights and everyone is allowed their turn?
Edit. So feck off. Biatch! :P
 
colinsunderland said:
To be fair, I like reading about other countries as it can show what they are doing and how well it's working, plus what you read in the media isn't usually what it's like on the ground.
However I can't talk about what it's like in say Spain, as I genuinely don't know, I've read little snippets from the news and stuff but thats about it, same for pretty much the whole world. So I talk about the UK, because thats what I know :). There are people from all over the world on here, the thread is only uk centric as no one really posts from anywhere else, which is a shame.
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Moreso, I think, because it's a heavily dominated UK forum (not a bad thing, just what it is). There's other countries, certainly, but perhaps, not as heavily impacted as a daily issue.
For example, there's a broader Canadian traffic than some may realize, but it isnt as...deleterious here
And yeah, higher impact on the US but less main board traffic.


It's just organic there's currently more UK in this thread
 
colinsunderland said:
To be fair, I like reading about other countries as it can show what they are doing and how well it's working, plus what you read in the media isn't usually what it's like on the ground.
However I can't talk about what it's like in say Spain, as I genuinely don't know, I've read little snippets from the news and stuff but thats about it, same for pretty much the whole world. So I talk about the UK, because thats what I know :). There are people from all over the world on here, the thread is only uk centric as no one really posts from anywhere else, which is a shame.
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Well if you are in the UK then it's like you are in Canada from what I read from you guys on here maybe not numbers but the government who have no clue and restrictions.

It's ridiculous this has been going on a year and sounds like it is going to be another year and what they are talking about now is what they should have done almost at the beginning and when they were throwing our money, now they are out of money and they want everything shut down for at least 2 weeks.
 
Dont know if I am guilty of appearing to disregard the covid problem in other countries, certainly dont mean to be,
quite aware its a worldwide problem and that many posters are from other countries.
I do try and point out that death figures etc are UK but sometimes may post other stuff that should make it clear I am referring to
the UK.I can understand why some people could feel alienated
 
slotmaster said:
Well if you are in the UK then it's like you are in Canada from what I read from you guys on here maybe not numbers but the government who have no clue and restrictions.

It's ridiculous this has been going on a year and sounds like it is going to be another year and what they are talking about now is what they should have done almost at the beginning and when they were throwing our money, now they are out of money and they want everything shut down for at least 2 weeks.
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yeah, reports today, suggest, we are looking at another month+ - should be interesting come tomorrow (or Tuesday)
 
dionysus said:
Moreso, I think, because it's a heavily dominated UK forum (not a bad thing, just what it is). There's other countries, certainly, but perhaps, not as heavily impacted as a daily issue.
For example, there's a broader Canadian traffic than some may realize, but it isnt as...deleterious here
And yeah, higher impact on the US but less main board traffic.


It's just organic there's currently more UK in this thread
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I could also suggest that there will be many none English speakers who may like reading threads but may not have the confidence to express themselves as well as they may like if they contributed?
Take Ternur for for example. Bless him. He tries via the medium of song :p
 
dionysus said:
:eek2:
you quoted your own
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That misfired badly! :(
shadow123 said:
Dont know if I am guilty of appearing to disregard the covid problem in other countries, certainly dont mean to be,
quite aware its a worldwide problem and that many posters are from other countries.
I do try and point out that death figures etc are UK but sometimes may post other stuff that should make it clear I am referring to
the UK.I can understand why some people could feel alienated
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Hey man. Don't think that your every post will give you positive or negative credits. Joe is not running the world just yet :P
 
geordiecolin said:
I am pissed but thank you for our personal chat. It did mean a lot :)
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2021, new year, we can ALL rally together and not against one another
CM is our place :)
 
dionysus said:
2021, new year, we can ALL rally together and not against one another
CM is our place :)
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I just hope that all long term members can reunite and give up on any negativity. The issues of the last year will remain for a long time. Opinions differ. But this in all fairness is a core small community of differing opinions. Let us respect each other.
Pissed Col off to hammer the slots afor bed :) x
 
Think lockdown stir crazyness is starting to set in.Normally at this time of year I am a happy bunny,f*****g Xmas
is out the way, the days are getting longer and spring is on the horizon,so different this year, over another month
of lockdown, waiting for a vaccine,every day is the same and that c**t Razor Shark still wont pay out, got to get a life.
Anyone else having altered sleep patterns ?, mine are really messed up, lying in bed wide awake.
Please excuse my ramblings,I have a lot to be greatful for, still got my health and things will get better for all of us,
just taking a bit longer than I hoped it would.
 
shadow123 said:
Think lockdown stir crazyness is starting to set in.Normally at this time of year I am a happy bunny,f*****g Xmas
is out the way, the days are getting longer and spring is on the horizon,so different this year, over another month
of lockdown, waiting for a vaccine,every day is the same and that c**t Razor Shark still wont pay out, got to get a life.
Anyone else having altered sleep patterns ?, mine are really messed up, lying in bed wide awake.
Please excuse my ramblings,I have a lot to be greatful for, still got my health and things will get better for all of us,
just taking a bit longer than I hoped it would.
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Just try to focus on the positives as much as you can, hopefully by the Spring some of the restrictions are lifted like they were in the summer and as the weathers getting nicer, we can all start going out a bit more, seeing friends and family and just starting to get a bit of normality back. Maybe by the summer things will be better again and events and stuff will open again.

I've not been sleeping right for months (as you can tell by me posting at almost 3am). I put it down to lack of exercise. I usually walk along the coast for at least an hour a day, only times I don't is if its really lashing down, but rain, wind, sun, snow, I'm normally out, but not doing it at the moment, seen how ill my friends were who caught it, seen people die who caught it, fit healthy people, and don't fancy that myself, so while the beaches are busier than a summers day, I haven't been bothering. I know the chances of catching it outdoors are small, but the chance is still there, and as much as I don't like it, I would rather be stuck in for a few months and put a stone on which I can lose again over the next 20-30 years while I'm alive, than catch it and not see the summer.

Going to try to get some sleep now, but try to keep your spirits up, and theres always people available to talk to if you need to, be it on the internet or someone like the Samaritans. If you keep struggling to sleep go and see your GP, get some zopiclone or something to help you short term till your sleep pattern improves. If you like reading, get a book and read the same page 5 or 6 times, it helps relax your mind as you concentrate the first time, but each time you do it your mind gets more and more bored and that can help people sleep.
 
geordiecolin said:
I could also suggest that there will be many none English speakers who may like reading threads but may not have the confidence to express themselves as well as they may like if they contributed?
Take Ternur for for example. Bless him. He tries via the medium of song :p
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I do my best.

And apologies if my linguistics skills are not to your liking.



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colinsunderland said:
Just try to focus on the positives as much as you can, hopefully by the Spring some of the restrictions are lifted like they were in the summer and as the weathers getting nicer, we can all start going out a bit more, seeing friends and family and just starting to get a bit of normality back. Maybe by the summer things will be better again and events and stuff will open again.

I've not been sleeping right for months (as you can tell by me posting at almost 3am). I put it down to lack of exercise. I usually walk along the coast for at least an hour a day, only times I don't is if its really lashing down, but rain, wind, sun, snow, I'm normally out, but not doing it at the moment, seen how ill my friends were who caught it, seen people die who caught it, fit healthy people, and don't fancy that myself, so while the beaches are busier than a summers day, I haven't been bothering. I know the chances of catching it outdoors are small, but the chance is still there, and as much as I don't like it, I would rather be stuck in for a few months and put a stone on which I can lose again over the next 20-30 years while I'm alive, than catch it and not see the summer.

Going to try to get some sleep now, but try to keep your spirits up, and theres always people available to talk to if you need to, be it on the internet or someone like the Samaritans. If you keep struggling to sleep go and see your GP, get some zopiclone or something to help you short term till your sleep pattern improves. If you like reading, get a book and read the same page 5 or 6 times, it helps relax your mind as you concentrate the first time, but each time you do it your mind gets more and more bored and that can help people sleep.
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Thanks for your support, not quite at the samaritans stage yet,would never do anything silly as i am a coward and also have a soppy dog that totally adores me and needs walks every day, good as it forces me to get out.Zopiclone would not be a good idea, had that in hospital and it caused me to have a psychotic episode.,
was walking round the ward unpugging monitors and drips, they had to get the doc to come and jab me,to knock me out, funny the felllow patients didnt
talk to me much after that :)
Things always look worse late at night when you cant sleep, have endured a lifetime of shit, sure i can get through this covid crap as well
 
shadow123 said:
Thanks for your support, not quite at the samaritans stage yet,would never do anything silly as i am a coward and also have a soppy dog that totally adores me and needs walks every day, good as it forces me to get out.Zopiclone would not be a good idea, had that in hospital and it caused me to have a psychotic episode.,
was walking round the ward unpugging monitors and drips, they had to get the doc to come and jab me,to knock me out, funny the felllow patients didnt
talk to me much after that :)
Things always look worse late at night when you cant sleep, have endured a lifetime of shit, sure i can get through this covid crap as well
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Samaritans aren't just there for people feeling suicidal :)
There are other sleeping tablets you could maybe try if you are really struggling with sleep :(
Hope you're feeling better this morning :)
 
colinsunderland said:
Samaritans aren't just there for people feeling suicidal :)
There are other sleeping tablets you could maybe try if you are really struggling with sleep :(
Hope you're feeling better this morning :)
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I am ok thanks, trying to keep busy, wil be going out for a mudfest with the dog soon.
 
shadow123 said:
Think lockdown stir crazyness is starting to set in.Normally at this time of year I am a happy bunny,f*****g Xmas
is out the way, the days are getting longer and spring is on the horizon,so different this year, over another month
of lockdown, waiting for a vaccine,every day is the same and that c**t Razor Shark still wont pay out, got to get a life.
Anyone else having altered sleep patterns ?, mine are really messed up, lying in bed wide awake.
Please excuse my ramblings,I have a lot to be greatful for, still got my health and things will get better for all of us,
just taking a bit longer than I hoped it would.
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Yes,my sleeping is not always good but I never let it worry me. When I'm working I don't have any sleep issues. And I agree with you about being happy about getting xmas out of the way. In fact whoever invented Christmas aught to be crucified!
 
Gaz237 said:
Just remember, when things are looking bleak.

We can always rely on @Playford7 to show us what crap he is eating for dinner while working away :thumbsup:.

Always makes me feel lucky:)
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:D
There a 'foodies' group on Facebook and I genuinely think most of them haven't actually eaten real food before. Some of it is the most disgusting looking stuff I've ever seen and all the comments are along the lines of 'looks lush hun' 'omg thats unreal'. I'm not a member anymore, but people keep posting the best ones, I'll see if I can grab a couple of recent ones, just to make Ben feel lucky for his frozen garlic bread and microwave burgers he has to put up with down there :D
 

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