Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

[colinsunderland]

This was described as 'piping hot kebab meat with beans, lovely'

I shit you not - 'Anglo Italian lasagne'
so that'll be lasagne in a yorkshire pudding then?

A comment with this was '2 dye 4. Complamence 2 the shef'
hahaha

 

[sufferinsilence]

This was described as 'piping hot kebab meat with beans, lovely'

I shit you not - 'Anglo Italian lasagne'
so that'll be lasagne in a yorkshire pudding then?

A comment with this was '2 dye 4. Complamence 2 the shef'
hahaha

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[colinsunderland]

This was quite funny, even without it clearly being a bag a of nachos with some slop poured over them, don't think she was impressed with some of the comments

Think I'm in the wrong business, £25 for a pizza box stuffed with shite and they were happy!

Not entirely sure what this is meant to be...

 

[sufferinsilence]

This was quite funny, even without it clearly being a bag a of nachos with some slop poured over them, don't think she was impressed with some of the comments

Think I'm in the wrong business, £25 for a pizza box stuffed with shite and they were happy!

Not entirely sure what this is meant to be...

Last one looks like some sort of poutine, French-Canadian dish, but I'm not sure... There's alot going on.

 

[mina1929]

This was quite funny, even without it clearly being a bag a of nachos with some slop poured over them, don't think she was impressed with some of the comments

Think I'm in the wrong business, £25 for a pizza box stuffed with shite and they were happy!

Not entirely sure what this is meant to be...

This lost one is the winner of yuck

Edit: meant last one lol

 

[colinsunderland]

Last one looks like some sort of poutine, French-Canadian dish, but I'm not sure... There's alot going on.

I was thinking it might be a poster for an upcoming sequel to 2 girls one cup.
2 girls, one box

 

[mina1929]

Hey @Playford7 I think people are missing your amazing cooking. How long do we have to wait for Master Chef Ben to come back

 

[slotmaster]

The last one is our Canadian fare poutine, Looks like a fancier more crap in it version though. Looks like chili poutine my guess. Poutine with bacon in it is yummy!

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Quick update on my COVID situation.

Been feeling ok, not ill at all. Did a bit of lugging about today and it soon hit me, lungs felt like they were on fire. So yep, can see how this hits people hard.

Ok again now I've rested.

 

[Gaz237]

This was quite funny, even without it clearly being a bag a of nachos with some slop poured over them, don't think she was impressed with some of the comments

Think I'm in the wrong business, £25 for a pizza box stuffed with shite and they were happy!

Not entirely sure what this is meant to be...

That last one looks like chips, mash and dog sick.

And the one earlier, now i don't mind a doner, Much prefer a chicken doner, upright and cooked and sliced the same as a lamb doner.

But why in the name of flying feck would you have it with baked beans?.

I would be banned from that site within 1 hour.

Theres nothing really cooked. its processed shite stuffed in the oven for 20 mins.

The grazing box was about the best, but must of been a small party.

 

[mack341]

Quick update on my COVID situation.

Been feeling ok, not ill at all. Did a bit of lugging about today and it soon hit me, lungs felt like they were on fire. So yep, can see how this hits people hard.

Ok again now I've rested.

Slot5 did you take any meds, for fever, or cough medicine etc... will you have a follow up test to see if it comes back all clear? And also, how does this leave you vaccine wise, do you need to have it if you're immune system has already fought it off [cross fingers]?

NB no worries if you haven't thought that far ahead.

 

[pinnit2014]

That last one looks like chips, mash and dog sick.

And the one earlier, now i don't mind a doner, Much prefer a chicken doner, upright and cooked and sliced the same as a lamb doner.

But why in the name of flying feck would you have it with baked beans?.

I would be banned from that site within 1 hour.

Theres nothing really cooked. its processed shite stuffed in the oven for 20 mins.

The grazing box was about the best, but must of been a small party.

Eating that on a regular basis probably puts a greater strain on the NHS than Covid could ever do.

Rather eat a loaf of bread, dry with an increased choking risk.

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Slot5 did you take any meds, for fever, or cough medicine etc... will you have a follow up test to see if it comes back all clear? And also, how does this leave you vaccine wise, do you need to have it if you're immune system has already fought it off [cross fingers]?

NB no worries if you haven't thought that far ahead.

No fever, sweats, chills or cough. Only symptom is irritatingly tight chest...oh and taste came and went for a couple of days.

Today I exerted myself and it was a big nope, so back to resting for a bit longer.

Will still take the vaccine.

 

[mcgameboy]

Last one looks like some sort of poutine, French-Canadian dish, but I'm not sure... There's alot going on.

Oh yeah, there's a lot going on alrite.

It looks like cat's vomit and slightly melted stools that have alarmingly large specks of blood in it....on chips

Christ on a fucking bike. If I ate that, I would soon be barfing all of it back out. And half of my body weight. Maybe even a rib.

I've seen things in an unflushed dunny that look more appetising than THAT.

 

[cncas2123]

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Facts and figures....

 

[Kroffe]

Oh yeah, there's a lot going on alrite.

It looks like cat's vomit and slightly melted stools that have alarmingly large specks of blood in it....on chips

Christ on a fucking bike. If I ate that, I would soon be barfing all of it back out. And half of my body weight. Maybe even a rib.

I've seen things in an unflushed dunny that look more appetising than THAT.

Bad looking does not mean bad tasting tho.
So sayeth the mighty Gumbo.

 

[paul7388]

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Facts and figures....

Nice article.

Also ends with this.

Matthew Reed, of the end-of-life care charity Marie Curie said the focus on Covid should not hide the fact there has been a "silent crisis" of deaths at home.
He said people have died prematurely in 2020 from other causes - with a big jump in deaths at home.
"We are concerned many have not had the care they needed," he added.

 

[cncas2123]

Nice article.

Also ends with this.

Matthew Reed, of the end-of-life care charity Marie Curie said the focus on Covid should not hide the fact there has been a "silent crisis" of deaths at home.
He said people have died prematurely in 2020 from other causes - with a big jump in deaths at home.
"We are concerned many have not had the care they needed," he added.

Agree 100%, with the handing over of the health service to fighting Covid, many have missed out on the care that they require and need, but hopefully that will change in the coming months with the roll out of vaccines, though that wont be of any consolation to the people who have lost loved ones due to not getting the care they needed.
I have a close relative who was due to get stents this week but the procedure was postponed and she sure of when it will be rescheduled but thankfully it shouldnt have too much affect on her as long as it can be done in the not too distant future.

 

[Slottery]

Modelling about possible covid infection rates in UK:

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Only have quite a short description of how it's done so hard to give any opinion about exact numbers and quality of math used, dunnot this consultant either who have done it but was published in Guardian so not probably worse link posted to this thread, take with bit salt and pepper with it

 

[electronictonic]

If it was Neil Ferguson's model it would be 5 out of every 1 person.

 

[Slottery]

If it was Neil Ferguson's model it would be 5 out of every 1 person.

Consult company called Edge Health

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Just couldn't find that whole model so not giving an opinion on how good i think it is. But sure there are some worse things posted to this thread so not record from that either

 

[shadow123]

Wish the UK Gov would sort out a clarification of what is local ,its hard to know if you are following the rules when you dont know
what they are.
Understand the distances to open areas will differ and its hard to come up with an absolute distance limit.The only
official ruling is that you should stay within your village, town or area of a city (except if you are Boris who can cycle 7 miles away).

Living alone now, i really have to get out and exercise every day for my physical and mental health,the 2 nearest places i can go
are either 1 mile or 3 miles away, The logical thing to do is go to the nearest but that gets packed out, the 3 mile park is almost
deserted so is far safer but the police are getting red hot around here and if I was stopped i am sure i would be told to use
the more local park.I will comply with any guidence or laws they introduce but they really have to be clearer.

The bubble rules are also woolly, they say if you form a bubble it should be nearby,the only person i can form one with
is my sister who lives 15 miles away, i would think the police would take a dim view of me travelling that far, the law
says i can form one,but police dont have the time to get into discussions about the finer points of the rules.

 

[colinsunderland]

They are stuck between a rock and a hard place being fair.
If they say you can travel 2 miles, then you would complain that the quiet place 3 miles away is much safer. If they say 5 miles then people will complain it's too far. You should see the hell on round here about people travelling to the beach. Someone dared put he drove from Ashbrooke, about 2.5 miles, to get there, you would have thought he murdered the Queen for all the hatred and comments he got!
Then you have the other side who say they live on council estates, 5-6 miles from the beach, and if they don't drive somewhere, their exercise would be walking around streets looking at council houses with the kids. Not really educational, fun or exciting if you have young kids.

Personally I think driving to somewhere quiet within your own local authority, or, if you live close to the border, the next one, should be acceptable. It's all about what is reasonable though. I saw people getting fines for travelling 180 miles to go and look at some seals, a 360 mile round trip is not reasonable I would say.

Local is open to interpretation, and think if you were to defend a fine in court, then you would rely, in part, on the governments definition of local. If you are looking for work, a term you have to agree to to claim benefits, is to take any work that is offered to you locally. They class locally as within 90 minutes travelling time. Now I'm not suggesting 90 minutes of travel is appropriate here, but at the same time I think any prosecution would be hard push to argue that you should stay on your estate.

You certainly shouldn't have any problem driving 3 miles, and I personally would argue with any copper who tried to tell me otherwise. Local doesn't mean you have to go to the closest place.

 

[slotplayer]

I said f*ck it. I went to see my retired older sister yesterday, I haven't see her in over a year (xmas eve of 2019).

 

[shadow123]

yep I would be inclined to do the same but when the police stop you its hard to argue your case, they have been told
not to get into discussions, just fine people if they think the rules have been breached.
We cant complain about lockdowns not being enforced when the police apply the letter of the law providing they
dont go overboard as the Derbyshire police did.

 

[slotplayer]

yep I would be inclined to do the same but when the police stop you its hard to argue your case, they have been told
not to get into discussions, just fine people if they think the rules have been breached.
We cant complain about lockdowns not being enforced when the police apply the letter of the law providing they
dont go overboard as the Derbyshire police did.

Sorry, my post was not in reference to yours. I actually scrolled past all the posts first and posted, then went back and read some of them.
So far its not such a strict lockdown here.

 

[dunover]

I see the food parcels the UK is paying £10 each for for vulnerable persons have come up rather short....
Someone, somewhere is having a laugh and making a huge profit here.

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Even St. Marcus (Rashford) has criticized them.

Perhaps he should donate a bit of the money he's fleecing the taxpayer out of:

Marcus Rashford paid himself just under £5k from his multi million pound company MUCS Enterprise LTD.....
Then gave himself a £950,000 directors loan.
This means he avoids paying tax on that £950,000 and just pays tax on the £50,000.
The Man U money is split into Image rights, sponsorship etc and paid to an off shore account avoiding massive UK tax bills. So while he bangs on about what we should be doing with your tax money maybe he should pay his tax money to the UK Government so they can fund free school meals during holidays.
The HMRC are currently investigating a hand full of premier league players chasing £250,000,000 in tax avoidance schemes.
Info from Companies house public records.

So that's £427,500 (950,000x 45%) he's avoided paying a government that's effectively broke. I wonder if they told Her Majesty that before she bestowed the MBE upon him??

"Hey, let me hand out money to good causes that I've avoided paying in taxes and reap the plaudits..."
Hypocritical tw*t.

 

[colinsunderland]

yep I would be inclined to do the same but when the police stop you its hard to argue your case, they have been told
not to get into discussions, just fine people if they think the rules have been breached.
We cant complain about lockdowns not being enforced when the police apply the letter of the law providing they
dont go overboard as the Derbyshire police did.

Locally isn't defined in the law, so it's open to interpretation. You would easily win in court if you disputed a fine for travelling 3 miles. There is precedent (sort of) with those two girls who travelled 7 miles, having the fines waived.

 

[colinsunderland]

I see the food parcels the UK is paying £10 each for for vulnerable persons have come up rather short....
Someone, somewhere is having a laugh and making a huge profit here.

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Even St. Marcus (Rashford) has criticized them.

Perhaps he should donate a bit of the money he's fleecing the taxpayer out of:

Marcus Rashford paid himself just under £5k from his multi million pound company MUCS Enterprise LTD.....
Then gave himself a £950,000 directors loan.
This means he avoids paying tax on that £950,000 and just pays tax on the £50,000.
The Man U money is split into Image rights, sponsorship etc and paid to an off shore account avoiding massive UK tax bills. So while he bangs on about what we should be doing with your tax money maybe he should pay his tax money to the UK Government so they can fund free school meals during holidays.
The HMRC are currently investigating a hand full of premier league players chasing £250,000,000 in tax avoidance schemes.
Info from Companies house public records.

Maybe if the government don't want people doing that, they should close the loopholes they are fully aware of.
He isn't doing anything wrong in getting paid that way.

He's donated some of his own money, and the support he's shown in creating awareness is probably worth millions. Don't see why people have to have a go at someone for doing good, would you have preferred he just sat in his mansion doing nothing?

The company (as usual a tory donor) giving these out are the ones needing hauling over the coals. People defending them haven't read things properly. Some are saying they get £3.50 a week to do this, including distribution. They don't. They get £3.50 on top of the free school meal allowance (around £15 a week) then £3.50 for distribution, packing and delivery. So they got paid £22 for that pack of 'food'. Some people saying thats enough to make 5 lunches, same as they get at school. Don't know what school they go to, but my granddaughter gets a hot meal daily, a pudding and a drink. Love to see someone do that 5 days a week from that.

 

[colinsunderland]

Thats the actual foodpack they were given, and I've seen some worse.

I can't stand Piers Morgan but look at Hancock squirm here

 

[dunover]

Maybe if the government don't want people doing that, they should close the loopholes they are fully aware of.
He isn't doing anything wrong in getting paid that way.

He's donated some of his own money, and the support he's shown in creating awareness is probably worth millions. Don't see why people have to have a go at someone for doing good, would you have preferred he just sat in his mansion doing nothing?

The company (as usual a tory donor) giving these out are the ones needing hauling over the coals. People defending them haven't read things properly. Some are saying they get £3.50 a week to do this, including distribution. They don't. They get £3.50 on top of the free school meal allowance (around £15 a week) then £3.50 for distribution, packing and delivery. So they got paid £22 for that pack of 'food'. Some people saying thats enough to make 5 lunches, same as they get at school. Don't know what school they go to, but my granddaughter gets a hot meal daily, a pudding and a drink. Love to see someone do that 5 days a week from that.

It's the fiscal equivalent of me walking down the street, picking some guy's pocket, finding £500 in his wallet, walking into the next charity shop and dropping £200 of it on the counter, soaking up the thanks and adulation before thinking of what I'm going to spend my £300 on.

It's easy to become munificent with a load of other peoples' money. As you said, it's a loophole that needs closing, the HMRC are doing it right now. He certainly isn't the only one, he would never have had the nous to think of this himself, it's the agents and accountants who take commission from their earnings that are doing this on their behalf. Fact remains, he's nailed his colours to the mast and in his position, now people know what he's up to, maybe he should either refund the HMRC (before he's forced to) or donate the fleeced amount to his charity.

 

[colinsunderland]

A couple of other 'hampers' they have been sending out

then compare those to the one below that was made up by a school (not a private company)

I'm pretty good with good, using leftovers and stuff, but I would really struggle to make 5 meals with whats in most the photos.

 

[colinsunderland]

It's the fiscal equivalent of me walking down the street, picking some guy's pocket, finding £500 in his wallet, walking into the next charity shop and dropping £200 of it on the counter, soaking up the thanks and adulation before thinking of what I'm going to spend my £300 on.

It's easy to become munificent with a load of other peoples' money. As you said, it's a loophole that needs closing, the HMRC are doing it right now. He certainly isn't the only one, he would never have had the nous to think of this himself, it's the agents and accountants who take commission from their earnings that are doing this on their behalf. Fact remains, he's nailed his colours to the mast and in his position, now people know what he's up to, maybe he should either refund the HMRC (before he's forced to) or donate the fleeced amount to his charity.

I disagree. He isn't doing anything wrong, why should he refund HMRC when there is nothing due?
There shouldn't be loopholes, and these have been around years, HMRC might do something about it, but you have to ask, why didn't they 10 or more years ago?

Will the company providing these food packs be donating their profits back to the Government? Will the companies that have been awarded billion £ contracts and failed to deliver, be donating that back to the government? I personally think there are much bigger fish to go after than a footballer who has helped millions of kids get fed properly, or at least better, during this situation.

 

[bamberfishcake]

I very much doubt Marcus Rashford has the knowledge to fiddle the tax man.

You can bet its his accountant who is paid an absolute fortune to do that. Marcus will just sign on the dotted line.

His accountant will also be doing nothing illegal.

Its a simple case of money makes money and playing the system when you own a company.

The fat cats do it all day long and at greater depth.

 

[Kroffe]

Thats the actual foodpack they were given, and I've seen some worse.

I can't stand Piers Morgan but look at Hancock squirm here

From what i understand, hes really glad they sorted it out.
And regarding if he regrets voting against it, i think hes really glad they were able to sort it out.


Politicans are good at saying alot without getting anything said.

 

[mack341]

I wonder if the govts in the comparatively, advanced countries of europe are sending out food parcels to parents because schools are closed due to lockdown?

Sweden, germany, belgium, finland...is this going on in your countries?

In a country with serious social problems, we seem to have a clueless govt and an even worse opposition waiting in the wings to replace them.

 

[colinsunderland]

I wonder if the govts in the comparatively, advanced countries of europe are sending out food parcels to parents because schools are closed due to lockdown?

Sweden, belgium, finland...is this going on in your countries?

In a country with serious social problems, we seem to have a clueless govt and an even worse opposition waiting in the wings to replace them.

and if they usually offer free school meals, or subsidized at all

 

[Borgie]

and if they usually offer free school meals, or subsidized at all

"Finnish School Meal System - JAMK"

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Finland looks good for school meals

 

[Kroffe]

I wonder if the govts in the comparatively, advanced countries of europe are sending out food parcels to parents because schools are closed due to lockdown?

Sweden, belgium, finland...is this going on in your countries?

In a country with serious social problems, we seem to have a clueless govt and an even worse opposition waiting in the wings to replace them.

Schools have not been closed here so far.
I think years 1-9 have been open as they usually are, and grades above that have had e-classes (distance)

Id have to look it up, but i imagine there might be some sort of benefit people could apply for if the schools close.
Not sure they would deliver food parcels.
I can ask my sister later, she works within the school so she might be clued in.

 

[datch]

I wonder if the govts in the comparatively, advanced countries of europe are sending out food parcels to parents because schools are closed due to lockdown?

Sweden, belgium, finland...is this going on in your countries?

In a country with serious social problems, we seem to have a clueless govt and an even worse opposition waiting in the wings to replace them.

No food parcels here in Germany as nobody is in need. I think we don't have social problems on a level like for example UK or Spain. Our social welfare system works pretty well, nobody is left behind, especially when it comes to food and other basic things.
Lunch in school is free if you can't afford it, the same goes for public transportation or participation in class trips and so on.

 

[mack341]

and if they usually offer free school meals, or subsidized at all

I think they do, saw a clip of a french school a while back, made our school meals look pathetic and backward, similar to the meals nhs hospitals serve, but perhaps its paid through their local tax [council here] as there is no such thing as a free meal really when all tax goes into official coffers, another reason why the avoidance schemes should be looked at and marcus pays his fair amount. Put his money where his mouth is, I'm afraid, and if he could persuade the other millionaire footballers into following suit I might warm to him.

 

[Slottery]

I wonder if the govts in the comparatively, advanced countries of europe are sending out food parcels to parents because schools are closed due to lockdown?

Sweden, germany, belgium, finland...is this going on in your countries?

In a country with serious social problems, we seem to have a clueless govt and an even worse opposition waiting in the wings to replace them.

Yes, school meals are provided for all in Finland free of charge and when schools are closed, these been replaced with food parcels. Somebody found that UK food parcel amusing and posted a comparison to Facebook

 

[mack341]

NHS food, don't know what the hell the top left is meant to be, looks like baby rats on mash potato!

 

[Kroffe]

I think they do, saw a clip of a french school a while back, made our school meals look pathetic and backward, similar to the meals nhs hospitals serve, but perhaps its paid through their local tax [council here] as there is no such thing as a free meal really when all tax goes into official coffers, another reason why the avoidance schemes should be looked at and marcus pays his fair amount. Put his money where his mouth is, I'm afraid, and if he could persuade the other millionaire footballers into following suit I might warm to him.

Yeah, school lunches are "free" here (taxes)
Quality was a bit different between schools i went to (more kids worse quality) but overall it was not bad at all.
What was pretty kickass was that there was always a vegetarian alternative, so on days when the "normal" lunch was something you didnt like you could just opt for the vegerarian one.

Didnt really appreciate the food as a kid, but that had more to do with me being a picky eater as a kid and not because the food was bad.
The food they serve at Ikea kind of reminds me of school lunches in a way.
Nothing fancy, just decent quality&taste.

Edit: Heres a link if anyone wants to read about our communist school lunches.

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[geordiecolin]

Thats the actual foodpack they were given, and I've seen some worse.

I can't stand Piers Morgan but look at Hancock squirm here

Thats the actual foodpack they were given, and I've seen some worse.

I can't stand Piers Morgan but look at Hancock squirm here

I really can not abide that man. How can you possibly trust a guy that is so fake?

 

[ternur]

I wonder if the govts in the comparatively, advanced countries of europe are sending out food parcels to parents because schools are closed due to lockdown?

Sweden, germany, belgium, finland...is this going on in your countries?

In a country with serious social problems, we seem to have a clueless govt and an even worse opposition waiting in the wings to replace them.

and if they usually offer free school meals, or subsidized at all

The municipality has to provide free meals for every student by law. If the school is closed and students are distance learning, the meals still have to be offered. Either delivered to homes or having them distributed by other means.

 

[mack341]

Yes, school meals are provided for all in Finland free of charge and when schools are closed, these been replaced with food parcels. Somebody found that UK food parcel amusing and posted a comparison to Facebook

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I wonder if that is to last a week, on the left, kind of a supplemental top up to the finnish families own food purchases, probably costs less than delivering the pic on the right daily to families in the uk. Be interesting to have a comparison of the cost of the finnish school meal schemes to the uk ones, I bet we in the uk are still paying a lot out for mediocre results back. [in terms of healthy nutrition for example]

 

[Slottery]

The municipality has to provide free meals for every student by law. If the school is closed and students are distance learning, the meals still have to be offered. Either delivered to homes or having them distributed by other means.

You might find an explanation Ternur studied law which was longest time he figured our he could remain his student status and get almost free meals (not sure if his beer diet is supported but maybe if you get paper from doctor).

 

[Slottery]

I wonder if that is to last a week, on the left, kind of a supplemental top up to the finnish families own food purchases, probably costs less than delivering the pic on the right daily to families in the uk. Be interesting to have a comparison of the cost of the finnish school meal schemes to the uk ones, I bet we in the uk are still paying a lot out for mediocre results back. [in terms of healthy nutrition for example]

Dunno about UK but by quick look, in Finland price per meal average €2.80 depending of municipality, there of course are differences if school have own kitchen or how they arrange these meals, highest per person was somewhere around €8/day. Some kitchens make food for 1500 people which included many schools and probably hospital etc... in these of course you can keep your price per meal much cheaper.

 

[ternur]

You might find an explanation Ternur studied law which was longest time he figured our he could remain his student status and get almost free meals (not sure if his beer diet is supported but maybe if you get paper from doctor).

Well, if the option is to have lunch or have a beer, the answer is pretty self-evident. The ones who drank more than law students were med students.

Eating was optional. Drinking was mandatory.