Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

[steveh35]

A question apparently a lot of people are asking the experts

Can you get the coronavirus from sex?

'There is no indication that coronavirus is sexually transmitted but, if we are in close contact with someone who has symptoms of flu or coronavirus (coughing, sneezing, runny nose, fever, headache) as we might be during sex, the likelihood of transmission for non-sexual reasons would be high.'

I doubt anyone would be having sex if they had Coronavirus.

 

[steveh35]

Other bizarre questions:

Will spraying my body with alcohol or chlorine help?

Should I rinse my nose with saline and eat garlic?

 

[goatwack]

It's a sort of double-whammy here, not only that it's an opinion piece, but from The Guardian of all places. And brought to us via MSN News, so a triple-threat really.

Yet strangely enough I find myself agreeing with him. Who knew

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[steveh35]

Premier League considering banning over 70's from football grounds as part of contingency plans over the virus.

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[dunover]

Premier League considering banning over 70's from football grounds as part of contingency plans over the virus.

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Well how's Roy Hodgson going to manage Crystal palace?

 

[sufferinsilence]

It's a sort of double-whammy here, not only that it's an opinion piece, but from The Guardian of all places. And brought to us via MSN News, so a triple-threat really.

Yet strangely enough I find myself agreeing with him. Who knew

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Really good oped. You can't open a website or watch a news programme without being slapped in the face with "corona", even on CM This should be a safe haven to talk about how rigged Bonanza is!

 

[goatwack]

 

[Mr_Slot5]

Are people really still making light of this? The number of people requiring ICU treatment with this virus is disturbing. It's 1 in 10 in Italy.

Find yourself in hospital with this and there's a decent chance you won't make it out.

 

[goatwack]

Oh good, more alarmism!

Is there a breakdown of age-ranges of those that die, or go into ICU?

 

[sufferinsilence]

Are people really still making light of this? The number of people requiring ICU treatment with this virus is disturbing. It's 1 in 10 in Italy.

Find yourself in hospital with this and there's a decent chance you won't make it out.

I'm certainly not making light of this but like goatie points out it's mostly people within a certain age-range that find themselves in trouble, just like they would if we had a severe flu season. There is a reason they are advised to get a seasonal flu shot every year. Does that make it better? Certainly not!

 

[ternur]

Are people really still making light of this? The number of people requiring ICU treatment with this virus is disturbing. It's 1 in 10 in Italy.

Find yourself in hospital with this and there's a decent chance you won't make it out.

We all deal with stuff in our own way. Nobody is making fun of seriously ill people. But if you can't have a laugh at something crazy people do when they over react, what's the point of anything really?

I skim read the last few posts and ultimately my take from those was that I should also wash myself with alcohol. Internal use seems not to be enough

 

[sufferinsilence]

We all deal with stuff in our own way. Nobody is making fun of seriously ill people. But if you can't have a laugh at something crazy people do when they over react, what's the point of anything really?

I skim read the last few posts and ultimately my take from those was that I should also wash myself with alcohol. Internal use seems not to be enough

You'll need atleast 61% alcohol based desinfectant from what I gathered. No problem for a Fin ofcourse.

 

[dionysus]

You'll need atleast 61% alcohol based desinfectant from what I gathered. No problem for a Fin ofcourse.

I should be safe with only blowing 0.07% blood in my alcohol system

oh shit, wait

 

[Borgie]

Its definitely mostly elderly people who die from this plus a few with pre existing medical conditions. The mortality rate is a little higher than the standard flu . Also as said already for standard flu there is a vaccine which helps.

Of course its not funny. That's someones mother or father and nobody wants anyone to suffer or die from anything.

 

[goatwack]

Certainly not amused by any sweeping virus outbreak, nor do I feel the need to justify my stance on the hysteria enveloping every news outlet.

No, rather, I find myself bemused at Project Fear II which will fizzle out in a matter of weeks, whilst every media blog journo will rinse to its core until it's a non-story, just like Bird Flu, Swine Flu and everything that went before it. In fact I find people's over-reactions downright PATHETIC


It matters not at say my mum's age, 73, whether she has a severe cold, flu or whatever else, I downright worry in these Winter seasons whenever she reports back any sort of seasonal ailment, knowing full well her susceptibility.

So people of healthy age panic-buying bog roll and trampling over themselves is what the media's absolutely basking in right now. Says more about the pitiful state of modern society than the supposed killer Coronavirus

 

[ladyhawke]

So people of healthy age panic-buying bog roll and trampling over themselves is what the media's absolutely basking in right now. Says more about the pitiful state of modern society than the supposed killer Coronavirus

I couldn't agree more.

Just received an email from the CEO of Coles regarding the toilet paper frenzy which appears to have turned sane, rational people into raving lunatics. It states, in part:

"This is due to increased purchases of everyday items by some customers brought about, in part, by an international media & social media frenzy – which then causes other customers to lose confidence in the system and then buy more themselves"

 

[nutnut]

People are stupid in general and this B.S. had proved it. A flu that has killed less than the normal flu we get every year and the press and government feeding fear to the masses.

It's comical but scary how stupid a large portion of society is. Until people drop dead and not a 80yr old passing away then feck off imo

 

[Kroffe]

 

[dionysus]

toss in toilet paper the clown gonna clean up

 

[mina1929]

This happened in Sydney, how embarrassing

 

[dionysus]

madness


I've been seeing friends ' posts from Australia all day of cleaned out shelves of toilet paper

 

[mina1929]

madness


I've been seeing friends ' posts from Australia all day of cleaned out shelves of toilet paper

Yeah I didn't believe it until I saw it myself lol

 

[sufferinsilence]

madness


I've been seeing friends ' posts from Australia all day of cleaned out shelves of toilet paper

Yeah, friend of mine posted too and added: when the TP ran out they went for the baby wipes

 

[Mr_Slot5]

When humans perceive a threat, especially one to their life, they take action in some form or another. It's purely human nature and all part of the 'fight or flight' response. People talk of others going 'feral' but that's exactly what it is...innate instinct which has been with us for a very very long time.

Humans are hardwired to survive any way they can.

Some people can act rational, others will bury their heads, some will go loony...that's people.

 

[dionysus]

'perceive' being key
we aren't little tiny mammals with pea shaped brains whose survival is contingent on bolting or battling.
We're a wee bit smarter and can balance those instincts with rationale. and the abity to think and problem solve and priortize and all that jazz.
Sure, fight or flight is important; a healthy dose of fear keeps us kicking

a healthy dose

not rampant paranoia our asses will forever be poo sticky (we still have water) simply because the neighbour sneezed (or neighbour of a neighbour whose cousin's gramma said Mabel's great-neice sneezed ...and that toilet paper will magically evaporate and diappear from the planet in the (possible) presence of a flu-like vrius

it's human nature to react.
The problem is when humans unncessarily OVER-react

 

[Kroffe]

Im kind of suprised there are so many people still using toilet paper.
Like i get it, a towel is more expensive, but since its reusable its cheaper in the long run.
Just dont forget to rinse it after use, because if you dont it will get all stiff and very uncomfortable to use.

Or you know, just:

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[ladyhawke]

Premier League considering banning over 70's from football grounds as part of contingency plans over the virus.

I'm certainly not making light of this but like goatie points out it's mostly people within a certain age-range that find themselves in trouble, just like they would if we had a severe flu season. There is a reason they are advised to get a seasonal flu shot every year. Does that make it better? Certainly not!

Its definitely mostly elderly people who die from this plus a few with pre existing medical conditions. The mortality rate is a little higher than the standard flu . Also as said already for standard flu there is a vaccine which helps.

Of course its not funny. That's someones mother or father and nobody wants anyone to suffer or die from anything.

Currently there have been about 3500 deaths from COVID-19, although of course it is not yet finished with us. The WHO states that it is easily transmissible and more infectious than the flu, which is why it is considered potentially so dangerous.

And of course, there is no current vaccine/injection available.

However it is apparently believed by many experts that the potential fatality rates have been exaggerated, which could actually be between 1-2% if good healthcare is available.

So, should we be taking precautions? Yes, the same as you would if there was a flu outbreak. But what I find incomprehensible is the mass hysteria which has taken hold of the general population, particularly as even if the higher fatality rates are proven to be correct, COVID-19 will have a mortality rate of 3% - less than the 10% SARS mortality rate, and there sure as hell wasn't this over-the-top reaction to SARS.

Also, some figures to think about:

In 2003 In France, there were 14,802 heat-related deaths mainly among the elderly.

In 2017 in the USA there were approx. 80,000 deaths from the flu due to the severity of the winter.

So there have always been deaths from weather related events/viruses, and there always will be.

But our reaction to this one has demonstrated that Social Media and the MSM have stirred up the situation by playing on our fears to such an extent that reason and rational thinking are long gone, and we are just behaving like mindless sheeples.

 

[ladyhawke]

Yeah I didn't believe it until I saw it myself lol

Went into my local Coles yesterday - they had started to restock, but the shelves were totally empty. Like you, I actually thought the stories were being exaggerated. Nope. I am now a believer.

 

[dionysus]

you just know there's people out there panicking theyll get corona, as they mindlessly share a smoke or toke with their mates, blissfully ignorant and uncaring who has or doesnt have herpes sores inside their mouths

im not a germaphobe, but even ive friends like, can i have a drag?
sure. here ya go
thanks (friend passes it back)
no, no, you keep it

 

[chuchu59]

Surgical masks are still the rage in Hong Kong but a month or so ago this also applied to toilet rolls and rice. The stock in every supermarket were wiped out and on one occasion several burglars broke into a supermarket and took away 50 rolls of toilet paper only to be thwarted by the police. This stemmed from a rumour that many factories in China were about to cease production of toilet paper and convert to producing surgical masks instead. Most people only hold stocks of 3-4 rolls at most and when the shelves became empty they got desperate. Heck, we couldnt even get into the online supermarket such was the huge queue there and even when we entered most goods had been raided. There were also no delivery slots. So folks, you aint seen nothing yet but I can honestly say that this panic saved us as we only currently have 107 infected and 2 deaths. Our leader refused to close borders with China and those people continued to seek to come over to HK to receive better medical care.

 

[steveh35]

Are people really still making light of this? The number of people requiring ICU treatment with this virus is disturbing. It's 1 in 10 in Italy.

Find yourself in hospital with this and there's a decent chance you won't make it out.

Well we have found CM's panic buying over reacting member, firstly it is more contagious than the flu because it's new and there is no vaccine and our bodies are not immune to it, secondly it has still only affected in the world the number of people the size of wembley stadium, the death rate is mainly from people with other conditions.

So stop panicing and remarking on people making light of it it isn't the bubonic plague, it isn't polio or diptheria it is a mainly mild illness, measles is the most contagious disease the world faces but that has a vaccine if it didn't the world would be covered in red spots at the moment.

In some cases if it is only mild it might actually be better to catch it and become immune.

 

[dionysus]

I'm old (probably older than some think lol)
I've had red measles, German measles, chicken pox, e. coli, dysentery, mono 3X...still kicking

I grew up eating dirt, jumping rooftops, riding on pick-up truck rails
Broken nearly everything I could break
still here

Humanity, as a whole, still here
Has survived everything thrown at it.
We're a resilient species. We adapt.
Our bodies are incredibly remarkable machines given the chance.

Yes, absolutely, take precautions. Be smart. Be vigilant.
Afraid, paranoid.....no...not til it's warranted

 

[pinnit2014]

I'm old (probably older than some think lol)
I've had red measles, German measles, chicken pox, e. coli, dysentery, mono 3X...still kicking

I grew up eating dirt, jumping rooftops, riding on pick-up truck rails
Broken nearly everything I could break
still here

Humanity, as a whole, still here
Has survived everything thrown at it.
We're a resilient species. We adapt.
Our bodies are incredibly remarkable machines given the chance.

Yes, absolutely, take precautions. Be smart. Be vigilant.
Afraid, paranoid.....no...not til it's warranted

You should copy and paste the first few paragraphs to your tinder profile

 

[dionysus]

You should copy and paste the first few paragraphs to your tinder profile

tinder?
pfft, like id pay for a dating app

 

[dionysus]

but fwiw i also havent had so much as a cold in over 20 years
body's are amazing; throw stuff, give it the ability to fight
you dont hide at home hoarding tp rolls afraid to walk outside

 

[steveh35]

but fwiw i also havent had so much as a cold in over 20 years
body's are amazing; throw stuff, give it the ability to fight
you dont hide at home hoarding tp rolls afraid to walk outside

Quite weird that I never get coughs or lung issues then in December I got all the symptoms of Coronavirus and went to the doctor and she was like "it's a virus" and that was it imagine if I had got the symptoms of 2 months later now I would have been off to the swabbing tent and self isolating.

 

[dunover]

Actually, while we are on the subject of bog rolls perhaps I can settle an argument in our house.

OK - when I replace the bog roll, I always put it on the wall hanger so the hanging bit you pull is away from the wall, IMO it allows easier and quicker access than when it's on the other way and the hanging bit is 'behind' i.e. flush with the wall (no pun intended.)

Yet everyone else here puts it on the other way which really annoys me.

 

[dionysus]

there's debates, wiki pages, and apparent patent designs
me? my house, w/e frickin' way I want, which generally, is lazily, sitting on the cupboard or back of toilet

 

[Kroffe]

Actually, while we are on the subject of bog rolls perhaps I can settle an argument in our house.

OK - when I replace the bog roll, I always put it on the wall hanger so the hanging bit you pull is away from the wall, IMO it allows easier and quicker access than when it's on the other way and the hanging bit is 'behind' i.e. flush with the wall (no pun intended.)

Yet everyone else here puts it on the other way which really annoys me.

You are doing it the right way.
Everybody who says different are wrong.

 

[steveh35]

Shortages?

 

[dunover]

When humans perceive a threat, especially one to their life, they take action in some form or another. It's purely human nature and all part of the 'fight or flight' response. People talk of others going 'feral' but that's exactly what it is...innate instinct which has been with us for a very very long time.

Humans are hardwired to survive any way they can.

Some people can act rational, others will bury their heads, some will go loony...that's people.

No bog rolls? No dry pasta? I wonder why....



Coming soon to a store near you.

 

[dionysus]

everyone grabbing TP and hand sanitizer


sorry, world's end id be raiding the liquor store, that'll be gold for trading w/e I want; always gonna be drunkards and peeps want to drown sorrows

 

[shadow123]

Sorry I have to ask the question,dont think anyone else has
Do Bears s**t in the woods ?

 

[dionysus]

yes, but its 2020 so they facebook, tiktok and insta pics while they do it

 

[steveh35]

Sorry I have to ask the question,dont think anyone else has
Do Bears s**t in the woods ?

No they post on Casinomeister these days.

 

[steveh35]

London Marathon to go ahead after it was revealed participants are likely to run the course anyway even if it was banned, which leads to the conclusion how can the authorities hope to implement any sort of curfews if they can't even stop some runners on a Sunday morning.

 

[steveh35]

Day 3 of Aussie Bog papergate

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[paul7388]

Sorry I have to ask the question,dont think anyone else has
Do Bears s**t in the woods ?

Not sure but i will ask the one who might know.

@Kroffe

 

[ternur]

everyone grabbing TP and hand sanitizer


sorry, world's end id be raiding the liquor store, that'll be gold for trading w/e I want; always gonna be drunkards and peeps want to drown sorrows

That was like you were literally talking to me.

Starts Saturday with a beer and being triggered of random words.

 

[Kroffe]

Is toilet paper and beans what goes first when people hoard in the UK?

Not sure but i will ask the one who might know.

@Kroffe

Does a bear shit in the woods?
Is the pope Catholic?

Sorry, it seems i just added more questions.