Corona virus - Covid 19 discussion

[colinsunderland]

I think that you are being way too romantic with the facts

Well not really. I know the stuff about Sunderland is fact.

Cancer is quite hard to find accurate figures, for example, one study said

The number of cancer patients starting treatment between April and July 2020 in the UK has reduced by 26% (31 000) compared with the same period in 2019, according to figures analysed by Cancer Research UK.

However, it was widely reported that in April they had fell by 60%, partly due to staff shortages and staff being moved to cover Covid wards. If the overall drop was 26% in 4 months, but the first of those months was 60%, then months 2-4 must have been lower than 26%, possibly down to around 10%. That isn't a massive drop, and can be explained in part by people not going to their GP as they were too scared to go out, rather than any failure by the NHS.

I don't think it's something anyone can answer with confidence at this stage though, and I think it will be years before we can say what was right and what was wrong with whats happened.

Looks pretty certain now that the plans for Christmas for England will be staying in place, but Scotland in particular might see some changes.

 

[geordiecolin]

Not a great deal to understand mate, just out of curiosity do you need to leave home to earn money?

I do Ben for the vast majority of my time. I have no fear of working with folk. I have no fear of contracting if when I do but I suspect that I have already had it as I stated in here back in the spring. We need to subject ourselves to germs constantly in order to keep up our ability to deal with all germs and bolster our systems.
We has not given bolsters that direct us toward the best way of building up our immunity. I posted that months ago.
I could go on and on.
Fear is what is gripping the World not the very real corona

 

[Playford7]

Well not really. I know the stuff about Sunderland is fact.

Cancer is quite hard to find accurate figures, for example, one study said

The number of cancer patients starting treatment between April and July 2020 in the UK has reduced by 26% (31 000) compared with the same period in 2019, according to figures analysed by Cancer Research UK.

However, it was wide reported that in April they had fell by 60%, partly due to staff shortages and staff being moved to cover Covid wards. If the overall drop was 26% in 4 months, but the first of those months was 60%, then months 2-4 must have been lower than 26%, possibly down to around 10%. That isn't a massive drop, and can be explained in part by people not going to their GP as they were too scared to go out, rather than any failure by the NHS.

I don't think it's something anyone can answer with confidence at this stage though, and I think it will be years before we can say what was right and what was wrong with whats happened.

Looks pretty certain now that the plans for Christmas for England will be staying in place, but Scotland in particular might see some changes.

Thing is who the hell still abides to this?

people who need to leave home and mix for a living certainly don’t as it’s impossible..
We share a van between 3 for example, yet after our 2/3 hour drive cooped up with the heater on we are given separate hotel rooms incase Covid gets us! Haha it’s a utter farce mate.

that’s also just one example of the insanity, I’ve loads more that are true but I won’t waste my time.

as for not seeing what little and old family I’ve left over Xmas then I’m sorry it’s a massive piss off silly rules and tiers and other nonsense, my older family members agree..

Sorry won’t bow down to take shite, mask has been gone ages and I’m getting about my business as I see fit.

no disrespect but that is exactly where my thinking is at with this farcical circus.

 

[Playford7]

I do Ben for the vast majority of my time. I have no fear of working with folk. I have no fear of contracting if when I do but I suspect that I have already had it as I stated in here back in the spring. We need to subject ourselves to germs constantly in order to keep up our ability to deal with all germs and bolster our systems.
We has not given bolsters that direct us toward the best way of building up our immunity. I posted that months ago.
I could go on and on.
Fear is what is gripping the World not the very real corona

That wasn’t directed at you btw mate, sorry I’m tired

 

[geordiecolin]

Well not really. I know the stuff about Sunderland is fact.

Cancer is quite hard to find accurate figures, for example, one study said

The number of cancer patients starting treatment between April and July 2020 in the UK has reduced by 26% (31 000) compared with the same period in 2019, according to figures analysed by Cancer Research UK.

However, it was wide reported that in April they had fell by 60%, partly due to staff shortages and staff being moved to cover Covid wards. If the overall drop was 26% in 4 months, but the first of those months was 60%, then months 2-4 must have been lower than 26%, possibly down to around 10%. That isn't a massive drop, and can be explained in part by people not going to their GP as they were too scared to go out, rather than any failure by the NHS.

I don't think it's something anyone can answer with confidence at this stage though, and I think it will be years before we can say what was right and what was wrong with whats happened.

Looks pretty certain now that the plans for Christmas for England will be staying in place, but Scotland in particular might see some changes.

Meh. You are one of those people that I enjoy talking with. I will come back to you. Maybe next time Highlight your quotes in a thread. But I am off to enjoy spinning before bed mate

 

[colinsunderland]

I do Ben for the vast majority of my time. I have no fear of working with folk. I have no fear of contracting if when I do but I suspect that I have already had it as I stated in here back in the spring. We need to subject ourselves to germs constantly in order to keep up our ability to deal with all germs and bolster our systems.
We has not given bolsters that direct us toward the best way of building up our immunity. I posted that months ago.
I could go on and on.
Fear is what is gripping the World not the very real corona

Is the fear not justified though, when you know going for a cup of coffee with your parents could kill them?

I'm not particularly scared, I've not really stopped in since the start, but am careful to an extent. Haven't stopped living my life, but have been times I've changed my plans because I've thought, fuck that. Went to Shields fair when it first opened, and walked back out, it was packed, no social distancing, they weren't cleaning the rides properly or anything. Went back a few weeks later, and took the bairn on rides cos they were cleaning everything properly, people were standing apart, so decided it was safe enough to be at.
Let the bairn go to a kids party as I knew all the other kids there were in a class together, and you can't wrap them in cotton wool.
During lockdown let her play with the lad next door, I knew they were staying in, I was probably taking more risks than them.

Think most of it is just common sense, unfortunately some people don't seem to have any.

 

[colinsunderland]

Thing is who the hell still abides to this?

people who need to leave home and mix for a living certainly don’t as it’s impossible..
We share a van between 3 for example, yet after our 2/3 hour drive cooped up with the heater on we are given separate hotel rooms incase Covid gets us! Haha it’s a utter farce mate.

that’s also just one example of the insanity, I’ve loads more that are true but I won’t waste my time.

as for not seeing what little and old family I’ve left over Xmas then I’m sorry it’s a massive piss off silly rules and tiers and other nonsense, my older family members agree..

Sorry won’t bow down to take shite, mask has been gone ages and I’m getting about my business as I see fit.

no disrespect but that is exactly where my thinking is at with this farcical circus.

I don't disagree, I've said previously in the thread I think the Tier system is stupid, it should either be a lockdown like the first one, or not at all, with the possible exception of pubs and clubs. In fact thats pretty much all I see thats much different between tier 2 and 3, pubs are shut in tier 3.

 

[Playford7]

I don't disagree, I've said previously in the thread I think the Tier system is stupid, it should either be a lockdown like the first one, or not at all, with the possible exception of pubs and clubs. In fact thats pretty much all I see thats much different between tier 2 and 3, pubs are shut in tier 3.

The tiers are pointless, as is the lockdown.

honestly being back actively working you would think corona is a myth, you can’t abide to what they ask yet we are legally aloud to go about our business and possibly spread this BS at will.

I’ve got my key worker/essential staff letter I must show my hotel when I check in, it’s packed with contract workers on sites all over manchester, some share rooms some dont.

yet we all drive together and graft together where this social distance bs is impossible as the work would not get done mate.

personally think all the lockdowns, tiers, breakers and the rest of the utter BS where put in place as the government fucked up so badly they wanted to halt any spread as tiny as it may be until the vaccine comes along...

One which I won’t get, I’m no anti vaccine nutter but I’ve been fine for 39 years, happy to take my chances with a virus that’s less deadly than Jamie and that’s a bold statement!..

 

[geordiecolin]

Is the fear not justified though, when you know going for a cup of coffee with your parents could kill them?

I'm not particularly scared, I've not really stopped in since the start, but am careful to an extent. Haven't stopped living my life, but have been times I've changed my plans because I've thought, fuck that. Went to Shields fair when it first opened, and walked bacIt siuted k out, it was packed, no social distancing, they weren't cleaning the rides properly or anything. Went back a few weeks later, and took the bairn on rides cos they were cleaning everything properly, people were standing apart, so decided it was safe enough to be at.
Let the bairn go to a kids party as I knew all the other kids there were in a class together, and you can't wrap them in cotton wool.
During lockdown let her play with the lad next door, I knew they were staying in, I was probably taking more risks than them.

Think most of it is just common sense, unfortunately some people don't seem to have any.

Common sense is the key word. Alongside measures our economy and livelyhoods would not have been ruined as they have.
What happened from China? They showedthe World how serious it was. Hosing down streets with chemicles. Nailing down folk in their houses and showing utter brutal panic to the outside world.
Since that the world shit themselves and followed suit.
I wanted to go slots!

 

[Playford7]

Common sense is the key word. Alongside measures our economy and livelyhoods would not have been ruined as they have.
What happened from China? They showedthe World how serious it was. Hosing down streets with chemicles. Nailing down folk in their houses and showing utter brutal panic to the outside world.
Since that the world shit themselves and followed suit.
I wanted to go slots!

China is a terrible cruel country and the kung flu they gave the west was a low blow indeed.

 

[GordonotRamsay]

Almost a year after this post was made, the world has been turned upside down. It's been rough in 2020 but it seems that 2021 will be the proper start of the decade. Hopefully, there will be something good in the future because this has been a tough year. Hopefully, everyone is doing fine because this is not a simple thing and I hope no one else had any issues with this virus this year.

 

[geordiecolin]

China is a terrible cruel country and the kung flu they gave the west was a low blow indeed.

Who has profited from this global "pandemic" and who has very deep ties to China via his son which will become more and more evident over these next few months and years?

 

[Playford7]

Who has profited from this global "pandemic" and who has very deep ties to China via his son which will become more and more evident over these next few months and years?

Harry?.. bkk?

 

[chuchu59]

Oh, just what we need... a more deadly mutation

Maybe but its also possible an advanced version of the virus has been unleashed by the creator to cause havoc.

 

[geordiecolin]

Harry?.. bkk?

Harry should get his arse back on these boards

 

[Playford7]

Almost a year after this post was made, the world has been turned upside down. It's been rough in 2020 but it seems that 2021 will be the proper start of the decade. Hopefully, there will be something good in the future because this has been a tough year. Hopefully, everyone is doing fine because this is not a simple thing and I hope no one else had any issues with this virus this year.

How’s it affected you mate? I lost my offshore job and had to retrain, also whenever savings I had are albeit dead.

be back on my feet soon however, sadly many ain’t the breaks and friends I’ve had to get me back on the old horse so to speak.

Harry should get his arse back on these boards

he really shouldn’t.

He was beyond disrespectful to many members because they didn’t align with his political thoughts, and also calling out members as racist with no evidence was beyond low.

I thought a lot of the guy once, he seemed to have changed hence his absence.

despite our many disagreements however I wish the man well, he helped me when I was in a dark time once, not financially but with his advise and I won’t forgot that.

so harry mate, wherever you are I hope your well and no hard feelings here.

 

[bamberfishcake]

He really should.

I miss Harry.

Not seen his last posts and not actually asked him what happened.

In the main I find him very helpful and when it comes to disagreement he is very polite and amiable to an open and logical discussion without getting emotionally involved or cursing or berating or childish bickering.

Politics and Religion, as we know, bring out the worst in people.

Personally my forum experience wont be the same without him. Luckily we've kept in touch.

I doubt his tally of disrespectful posts come even close to some others and i reckon his are more open to interpretation than blatantly insulting and rude, if they have been deemed offensive by the CM moderators

 

[bowki]

Did someone say Sweden.

Did someone say Sweden?

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Coronavirus: Swedish King Carl XVI Gustaf says coronavirus approach 'has failed'​

Prime Minister Stefan Lofven said he agreed with the king's remarks.
"Of course the fact that so many have died can't be considered as anything other than a failure," Mr Lofven told reporters.

 

[Kroffe]

I agree with the king!

 

[ternur]

a superb band.

Yes

 

[colinsunderland]

Northern Ireland in a full lockdown from Boxing Day, expected to last 6 weeks.

Non-essential shops in NI will close from the end of trading on Christmas Eve in a bid to stop the spread of Covid-19.

Ministers will review the measures after four weeks.

Close-contact services, such as hair salons, will have to shut and pubs, cafes and restaurants will be restricted to takeaway services.

The first week of the lockdown, running until 2 January, will see even tighter measures with essential shops having to close each day by 20:00 GMT.

No sporting events will be permitted at all - even at elite level - with people being urged only to leave their home for essential reasons.

 

[colinsunderland]

 

[colinsunderland]

Time to talk about Sweden again, tiny 2nd wave, well blip, and already declining. The world has fucked up, Sweden got it right. View attachment 145638

So Sweden got it right?

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The commission underscored on Tuesday that Sweden had suffered a similar proportion of deaths among the elderly to other European countries. But its death rate per capita is one of the highest in Europe, and significantly higher than its Nordic neighbours’.

Sounds like they did really well.

 

[dealer wins]

Sweden got it so right. They are the only European country to not surrender basic human rights and freedoms.

Those rights and freedoms are more important than anything, even higher deaths.

Because once you surrender your freedoms, they dont get given back. We were promised on 16th March a lockdown for 3 weeks to flatten the curve, 9 months later I still cannot legally meet my own girlfriend of 18 years.

The UK are basically living under tyranny!!!

And our hospitals are less busy that last December.

 

[geordiecolin]

Northern Ireland in a full lockdown from Boxing Day, expected to last 6 weeks.

Non-essential shops in NI will close from the end of trading on Christmas Eve in a bid to stop the spread of Covid-19.

Ministers will review the measures after four weeks.

Close-contact services, such as hair salons, will have to shut and pubs, cafes and restaurants will be restricted to takeaway services.

The first week of the lockdown, running until 2 January, will see even tighter measures with essential shops having to close each day by 20:00 GMT.

No sporting events will be permitted at all - even at elite level - with people being urged only to leave their home for essential reasons.

FFS! No horse racing from NI?

 

[Playford7]

So Sweden got it right?

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The commission underscored on Tuesday that Sweden had suffered a similar proportion of deaths among the elderly to other European countries. But its death rate per capita is one of the highest in Europe, and significantly higher than its Nordic neighbours’.

Sounds like they did really well.

Col have you had to work in the real world throughout this nonsense?

I’m not being funny mate at all as I hope you realise, but the majority ive spoken to personally about the rules the ones that earn or work from home are always the most vocal in regards to stopping the rest of us.

as said pal no dig at you personally, you know I’m not about that but just curious is all.

also I do like dealer, but we can’t compare sweden to us.. the geography, the population and density and culture alone makes a comparison pointless.

 

[colinsunderland]

Sweden got it so right. They are the only European country to not surrender basic human rights and freedoms.

Those rights and freedoms are more important than anything, even higher deaths.

Because once you surrender your freedoms, they dont get given back. We were promised on 16th March a lockdown for 3 weeks to flatten the curve, 9 months later I still cannot legally meet my own girlfriend of 18 years.

The UK are basically living under tyranny!!!

And our hospitals are less busy that last December.

So the King of Sweden says they got it wrong.
The Prime Minister of Sweden says they got it wrong.
An independent inquiry says they got it wrong.

But you say they got it right. ok then.

You got a link to the data you are using to compare the hospital data?

Using the government data, last December there were 92727 G&A admissions (not inc A&E etc)
A week ago, 10th December, there were 80017 beds occupied.
There are a total of 89546 beds available. Doesn't seem like the hospitals are empty considering around 90% of beds are full.

It's hard to make exact comparisons as the way the data was recorded was changed from a year ago. However if, on one day, there were 80k in hospital beds, and the total admissions for the whole of December 2019 was 92k, I think it's pretty clear this December is busier than last. On top of that, last December was extremely busy, much busier than 2018. I may be interpreting the data incorrectly though as it's quite complex.

 

[colinsunderland]

Col have you had to work in the real world throughout this nonsense?

I’m not being funny mate at all as I hope you realise, but the majority ive spoken to personally about the rules the ones that earn or work from home are always the most vocal in regards to stopping the rest of us.

as said pal no dig at you personally, you know I’m not about that but just curious is all.

also I do like dealer, but we can’t compare sweden to us.. the geography, the population and density and culture alone makes a comparison pointless.

I'm not trying to stop anyone mate, I never thought certain types of work should have stopped. I do think people should be working from home if they can, ie call centres, DWP, places like that, and some are, but some aren't. Lass up the road to me works for an insurance company, worked from home all through the first lockdown, so she can do so. This time, they are back in the office. She has had to self isolate 3 times since she went back in September as people she was working with tested positive. She's a single Mam, meant she had to keep her 2 kids off school for 2 weeks, 3 times now. If she was working from home, she wouldn't have needed a single day off, and her kids wouldn't have been off once.

I never though your type of work should stop, or builders, jobs like that. Yes, some things should have to had to changed, but no reason people working outdoors shouldn't continue to do so.

 

[Playford7]

I'm not trying to stop anyone mate, I never thought certain types of work should have stopped. I do think people should be working from home if they can, ie call centres, DWP, places like that, and some are, but some aren't. Lass up the road to me works for an insurance company, worked from home all through the first lockdown, so she can do so. This time, they are back in the office. She has had to self isolate 3 times since she went back in September as people she was working with tested positive. She's a single Mam, meant she had to keep her 2 kids off school for 2 weeks, 3 times now. If she was working from home, she wouldn't have needed a single day off, and her kids wouldn't have been off once.

I never though your type of work should stop, or builders, jobs like that. Yes, some things should have to had to changed, but no reason people working outdoors shouldn't continue to do so.

Fair comment mate, I agree.

im sorry if it was worded in a way that sounded wank, I’ve just read it back and the way it came across wasn’t as intended mate.

on a happier note I leave manchester tomoz, work next week is Edinburgh (beautiful city)

we do now have to have official letters to prove we are key workers,
past few weeks in the hotel they where ok (even tho we had them)
this week every night we have to prove we are required to stay here via a work email or actually a official call.

there was 3 people last night who tried to book in at reception and where turned down due the fact they could not prove the travel and stay was essential.

so clearly it’s going to get worse and more strict, agree or disagree it’s not going away anytime soon.

im just v v thankful I can do this and work.

 

[Playford7]

Just to add I’m all for ignoring corona, it’s a utter farcical response from boris and co..

what is more dangerous is those whom are willing to listen and comply like sheep to this shite...

 

[Borgie]

Johnson wants to avoid English lockdown but admits cases rising fast

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[dionysus]

We've 'enjoyed' fairly low restrictions here and few numbers (comparatively) but it's hit here (small city) and my hometown (where mom works) - it's suredly, encroaching on the safest, securist measures.
One fam member was hit hard. Cases are as close as 'across the road'

Still a fan of, stay home when able, wash ya hands (too many have become lackadaisical about it all), wear your mask, and step the ef back

Be part of a solution, not the problem. Whether you say it's over-hyped or not, it's here, there, everywhere.

 

[slotplayer]

The Moderna vaccine should be approved any time now and the Novavax and Johnson and Johnson are in the pipe line. The Johnson and Johnson is a single shot vaccine.

 

[Spikie]

Germany has been put on tougher lockdown until Jan 10th. Austria complete lockdown until mid Jan, after which you have to be tested negative to be allowed out earlier . Italy has just announced extended measures too.

So no surprise if the UK follows too.

 

[geordiecolin]

I hope that the vaccine makers did their due diligence during its production more effectively than those that chose this nurse to be front and center of their promotional campaign

 

[Borgie]

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[colinsunderland]

Tier 4 for a lot of the south east

Tier four restrictions will apply in all tier three areas in the South East, covering Kent, Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Surrey (excluding Waverley), Gosport, Havant, Portsmouth, Rother and Hastings.
It will also apply in London (all 32 boroughs and the City of London) and the East of England (Bedford, Central Bedford, Milton Keynes, Luton, Peterborough, Hertfordshire, Essex (excluding Colchester, Uttlesford and Tendring).
All non-essential retail will have to close, along with hairdressers, nail bars, indoor gyms and leisure facilities.

From what I understand no social mixing indoors for Tier 4, including over Christmas, rest of the country cut down to one day relaxation of the rules.
What a fucking bunch of arseholes, most people would have been travelling to relatives in 3 - 4 days and now (legally) they can't.
It was clear weeks ago this was a mistake to allow the relaxations, so why the fuck didn't they cancel it back then rather than waiting to a few days before. What an absolute joke this government is.

 

[dunover]

I reckon I hit the nail on the head with my Xmas video!

(The Slade song lol)

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Tier 4 for a lot of the south east

Tier four restrictions will apply in all tier three areas in the South East, covering Kent, Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Surrey (excluding Waverley), Gosport, Havant, Portsmouth, Rother and Hastings.
It will also apply in London (all 32 boroughs and the City of London) and the East of England (Bedford, Central Bedford, Milton Keynes, Luton, Peterborough, Hertfordshire, Essex (excluding Colchester, Uttlesford and Tendring).
All non-essential retail will have to close, along with hairdressers, nail bars, indoor gyms and leisure facilities.

From what I understand no social mixing indoors for Tier 4, including over Christmas, rest of the country cut down to one day relaxation of the rules.
What a fucking bunch of arseholes, most people would have been travelling to relatives in 3 - 4 days and now (legally) they can't.
It was clear weeks ago this was a mistake to allow the relaxations, so why the fuck didn't they cancel it back then rather than waiting to a few days before. What an absolute joke this government is.

Starmer raised this at PMQs on Wednesday and Johnson started with his usual bully boy shit about how Labour wanted to cancel Christmas and said it would be 'inhuman' to change the tiering so close to Christmas.

This announcement could have been made days ago, or earlier than that even.

As ever, Johnson finally does the right thing when he's done every wrong thing first.

This new variant of Covid is no joke, by all accounts it is significantly more transmissible than the earlier variant.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Just a reminder, this was on Wednesday.

Not for the first time, Starmer was ahead of the curve.

 

[dunover]

Send the virus to negotiate with Mrs Van Der Driver and Barnier, it'd kill itself in despair.

 

[vorcirion]

Send the virus to negotiate with Mrs Van Der Driver and Barnier, it'd kill itself in despair.

Isn't that what you're doing? Your country is filled with it.

 

[shadow123]

The shit never ends , one days slight relaxation and then a third lockdown on the cards,cant blame the gov really,they are reacting
to fast changing data and most of Europe are in the same situation or worse.The one thing the gov did do wrong was the stupid
insistance on keeping schools open, it can only have contributed to the rising infection rate but the main problem now is this new
mutuation that was feared might develop, they say its no more dangerous that the normal strain and the vaccine shoud still effective.
Sounding like mass vaccination is the only way out, the lockdowns and confusing tier systems are not stopping it.

 

[Spikie]

Vaccination doesn’t stop people from getting infected . It suppresses the symptoms and should stop people dying .

Viruses don’t die . So everyone will probably catch it at some point anyway .

 

[geordiecolin]

Tier 4 for a lot of the south east

Tier four restrictions will apply in all tier three areas in the South East, covering Kent, Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Surrey (excluding Waverley), Gosport, Havant, Portsmouth, Rother and Hastings.
It will also apply in London (all 32 boroughs and the City of London) and the East of England (Bedford, Central Bedford, Milton Keynes, Luton, Peterborough, Hertfordshire, Essex (excluding Colchester, Uttlesford and Tendring).
All non-essential retail will have to close, along with hairdressers, nail bars, indoor gyms and leisure facilities.

From what I understand no social mixing indoors for Tier 4, including over Christmas, rest of the country cut down to one day relaxation of the rules.
What a fucking bunch of arseholes, most people would have been travelling to relatives in 3 - 4 days and now (legally) they can't.
It was clear weeks ago this was a mistake to allow the relaxations, so why the fuck didn't they cancel it back then rather than waiting to a few days before. What an absolute joke this government is.

I had posted in here 3,4 or 5 weeks ago that there where reports on corona mutating in to a number of variants,that they where easier to catch but less lethal so the government and "the science" knew fine well about it at least that long yet they deliberately sat on that info until now for the biggest impact on their road map.
I also suggested months ago that I guessed that due to the very mild weather in the south in Spring less folk caught it than in the north it made sense to me that the south would be hit hardest this winter.
I just pray to god I can go visit one of my daughters in tier 2 Cheltenham because between now and Wednesday is a long time these days

 

[geordiecolin]

I reckon I hit the nail on the head with my Xmas video!

(The Slade song lol)

Love it Dunover but forgive me but I can only listen to one song at a time. I shall revisit for the second song tomorrow when I feel less peptic that what the first song left me feeling

 

[dunover]

I had posted in here 3,4 or 5 weeks ago that there where reports on corona mutating in to a number of variants,that they where easier to catch but less lethal so the government and "the science" knew fine well about it at least that long yet they deliberately sat on that info until now for the biggest impact on their road map.
I also suggested months ago that I guessed that due to the very mild weather in the south in Spring less folk caught it than in the north it made sense to me that the south would be hit hardest this winter.
I just pray to god I can go visit one of my daughters in tier 2 Cheltenham because between now and Wednesday is a long time these days

LOl, that's where I live very low around here, a village of 6,000 people we had 3 cases last time I checked.

 

[Steviedoo]

There is a new mutation of the virus?

have not heard anything about it in here in this part of the world.

North America

 

[geordiecolin]

LOl, that's where I live very low around here, a village of 6,000 people we had 3 cases last time I checked.

We could buy you a quick beer and a scotch egg

 

[Borgie]

There is a new mutation of the virus?

have not heard anything about it in here in this part of the world.

North America

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