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whats wrong, no one bit when you posted the same image less than 24 hours ago you decided to post it again?
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Hospitals full. They are ghost towns lol
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well they aren't are they? And thats not what I asked.
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I know 2 nurses mate, both from Middlesbrough and they are infact empty.
one is my neighbour and known her over 10 years.
the other is Isabelle’s mother’s aunty, she also said they have been on alert 24/7 but utterly dead (excuse the pun)
best mates ex is also a anaesthetist, now she said back in March/may they where rammed in fairness, all patients put on the Covid wards...
the nurses where ran off there feet, but it wasn’t all Covid... the mass hysteria caused the panic.
james cook where above took place is Europe’s largest hospital (or was)
it wasn’t close to being overwhelmed at all, not one bit...
Nor was any ward full...
or the nearest idiotic nightingale used..
above the facts above I’ve been told by actual medical practitioners what really upsets me is my neighbour, she begged for a X-ray since March... I watched her throw up blood, suffer and cry...
I shopped for this lady and helped her out whenever required...
She wanted medical help for months since Covid, they tested her numerous times for this nonsense but she didn’t have it so they didn’t give a shit..
eventually as she passed out on her own home floor a ambulance came, 4 weeks later she’s dead...
they refused treatment to this beautiful lady because of this bullshit Covid... wouldn’t even check her out..
yeah once they did it was cancer, but maybe back in March a bit of medical help would of prolonged her life... maybe even made a difference..
guess we won’t ever know, but thanks to the kung flu she didn’t even stand a chance..
she leaves over 4 children, 14 grandchildren and a gutted neighbour...
Resist this Covid bullshit guys, the actions most certainly don’t defend the means.
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No mate, but they would have been full if it wasn't for the lockdowns and restrictions.
The point I was making was that dealerwins has said more than once we should have followed Sweden, that was the best way to do things, and despite being shown evidence Sweden's actions were actually worse, kept posting the same shite.
My comment about why he wants our hospitals to be full is based on this
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This week, Stockholm’s intensive care capacity hit 99%, sending the city into a panic and prompting calls for outside help.
A survey by broadcaster TV4 showed that in 13 of Sweden’s 21 regions, resignations in the health-care profession are now up from a year ago, at as many as 500 a month.
In the meantime, over 100 staff from a children’s hospital have reportedly been redeployed to intensive care units, meaning that children who had been due to receive non-emergency surgery will now be forced to wait.
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According to the latest figures from the National Board of Health and Welfare, Sweden on Wednesday December 9th had 673 intensive care beds equipped with a ventilators.
How much spare intensive care capacity is there in Sweden as a whole?
According to the latest figures from the Swedish Board of Health and Welfare, 550 of the intensive care beds equipped with a ventilator were occupied on Wednesday December 9th, of which 261 were filled with patients with Covid-19.
This amounts to 18 percent spare capacity.
What about other regions?
The health board reports that four other regions have less than ten percent spare intensive care capacity, but has not stated which regions these are.
According to Göran Karlström, a senior doctor in Värmland who is in charge of coordinating intensive care capacity between Sweden's regions, capacity has never been tighter.
"Both last Friday and on Wednesday this week, we had an all-time low when 13 regions had less than 25 percent capacity at the same time," Karlström, who is involved with coordinating capacity between regions for the Swedish Association of Local Authorities and Regions, told The Local.
Dealer wins reckons we should follow them, and what they did was the best way. It doesn't seem it to me.
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Absolutely, our very way of life, our "beloved" NHS will all become unaffordable after this scamdemic is over!
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Mate I’m not here to agree nor disagree with dealer.
Nor am I here to argue with anyone.
I’m just going on what I’ve seen, been told my professionals who I’ve known years.
also a personal loss attributed to this BS.
I’m sorry mate and you know I respect you and like you massively, but this whole corona thing is a utter mass over reaction..
jesus mate we even them telling us now we can’t play a board game at Xmas..
I’ve been out of work and stuck listening to MSM, the comical daily briefs by witty and the circus, not to mention laughing Hancock.. (I voted tory btw)
I’ve also been on the flip side working, and this is totally the opposite, travelling the country and not stuck inside listening to the scaremongering shite..
said it before and I will again, it’s only those whom rarely need to leave the house for work or choose not to whom are so vocal about this utter piffle...
get out there and work properly and live people would realise it’s just laughable..
not having a dig at anyone here btw col as I’m sure you will get mate, but this insanity has gone on too far..
You have more chance getting killed on the road than you do the sweet and sour flu, it does not justify the job losses, business killed off, mental health issues and more so past illnesss ignored due to this BS it really doesn’t...
I’m not trolling mate, you know me better than this.
I’m going on my experience alone, not media piffle.
and as much as I like dealer his and your argument isn’t relevant to what I’m saying mate.
anyhow hope you watched the mighty boro triumph past match!.. league winners for sure!..
Middlesbrough FC pride of the north east!.
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The NHS is shite mate.
It’s not fit for service and hasn’t been for many a year.
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come on then, how is following Sweden what we should have done? Their health service is completely overloaded, so how is that better than our empty hospitals?
Still waiting for you to tell everyone how a house party has anything to do with Black lives Matter.
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We can’t compare sweden to the U.K.
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I know that, you know that, dealerwins regularly posts how they are doing better than us, we should have followed what they did, they are world beaters, that type of thing. When you point out why you can't compare the two countries he ignores it and posts videos of house parties being broken up in London in the summer, pretending it was a BLM protest recently. He's a troll, simple as that.
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What’s BLM got to do with sweden and the uk? I was up travelling early so may be more slow than usual, but what have I missed?
I also can’t stand BLM, but how they are connected to this is above my pay grade mate lol..
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Think the yooooot in London have had enough of restrictions.
Funny don't see the police in riot gear battens out this time, thats reserved for peaceful lockdown protests. They run away or kneel to BLMers.
It was a house party, back in the summer, in London, nothing to do with BLM. I had seen the video months before he posted it, and literally took me 10 seconds to confirm it was the same one. Scrolling through the first half a dozen comments on the twitter post would have confirmed it too, but the thread troll decided to post it was people fighting back because of restrictions and that the people in the video were to do with BLM, they weren't.
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Time to talk about Sweden again, tiny 2nd wave, well blip, and already declining. The world has fucked up, Sweden got it right.
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Coronavirus 'disappearing' so fast Oxford vaccine has 'only 50% chance of working'
You couldnt make it up, yet we still have insidious business, job and life killing lockdowns and tiers
Posts a link to something that was published 6 months previously, in the middle of the first lockdown, clearly showing cases had dropped massively, to prove lockdowns don't work
Didn't respond to anyone who pointed that out.He is nothing but a troll.
I respect anyones views, and know not everyone agree with mine, but everyone else will engage in a discussion. He just pops shit links in with fake news he has gathered from Facebook and Twitter then refuses to answer any questions anyone asks him about them.
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Fair play mate, as you know me and your good self don’t have to agree, but we disagree in a decent manner.Coronavirus
Think the yooooot in London have had enough of restrictions.
Funny don't see the police in riot gear battens out this time, thats reserved for peaceful lockdown protests. They run away or kneel to BLMers.
It was a house party, back in the summer, in London, nothing to do with BLM. I had seen the video months before he posted it, and literally took me 10 seconds to confirm it was the same one. Scrolling through the first half a dozen comments on the twitter post would have confirmed it too, but the thread troll decided to post it was people fighting back because of restrictions and that the people in the video were to do with BLM, they weren't.
Coronavirus
Time to talk about Sweden again, tiny 2nd wave, well blip, and already declining. The world has fucked up, Sweden got it right.
Coronavirus
Coronavirus 'disappearing' so fast Oxford vaccine has 'only 50% chance of working'
You couldnt make it up, yet we still have insidious business, job and life killing lockdowns and tiers
Posts a link to something that was published 6 months previously, in the middle of the first lockdown, clearly showing cases had dropped massively, to prove lockdowns don't work
He is nothing but a troll.
I respect anyones views, and know not everyone agree with mine, but everyone else will engage in a discussion. He just pops shit links in with fake news he has gathered from Facebook and Twitter then refuses to answer any questions anyone asks him about them.
also like dealer as a person but can’t agree with his sweden thing as it’s a nonsense and I’m as anti corona as they come.
i won’t post loads of stats and science as I don’t have the time to back up my thoughts, but I’ll post what I’ve seen and my thoughts before, during and after... not to mention my life experience.
not about agreeing not disagreeing with me, I’m as said posting what I’ve seen and had experience with.
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Wonder if any areas will be dropping down from Tier 3 on Wednesday, and if they will split area's up as they have done with essex and hertfordshire today, Northumberland should certainly be dropped if they do. So should the whole of the North East really, fairly sure our figures are now lower than London's were when they were put into Tier 2.
Have heard rumours Leeds will be Tier 2 on Wednesday, but the government usually leaks any news 48 hours before it happens, so not sure how likely that is.
Have heard rumours Leeds will be Tier 2 on Wednesday, but the government usually leaks any news 48 hours before it happens, so not sure how likely that is.
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Tier 3? So no footy fans allowed in stadiums.
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Thats right.
I'm hearing there are meetings this afternoon to discuss if the Christmas relaxation of rules is to be scrapped, and the possible introduction of a Tier 4 to England.
Good luck cancelling Christmas after saying for over a month they wouldn't do that, it will be ignored by anyone who already has plans. Not that I think the 5 day thing was the right thing to do from a scientific point of view, but no chance people will follow the rules when they have already made plans.
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Did someone say Sweden.
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A certain amount of people might and they'll probably turn a blind eye to the ones that dont.
We've planned to go to Devon but the kids Nan is high risk. She says she still wants to see us but if we have any symptoms or the government do lay down a tier 4 i'll probably cancel
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On the positive side I hope the vaccines that the UK has purchased will halt the spread of the virus and yoiu folks can get back to normal. Easter 2021 perhaps?
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Dunno why Sweden is still all referred to be some unique place with no restrictions, they didn't have restrictions at springtime but already for long time restrictions there been more strict than in their often compared neighbor Finland, no group gatherings, no alcohol late etc....
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So apparently hospitals are empty
Surrey are apparently now going into Tier 3 from tomorrow as they don't have a single ICU bed free.
Surrey are apparently now going into Tier 3 from tomorrow as they don't have a single ICU bed free.
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What worries me a little and i may have heard this wrong but listening to Matt Hancock last night talking about new variants I thought he mentioned something about testing around the new vaccine working or not.
Have other countries spoke about new variants? I thought these viruses were always developing in some way so why the mention?
Cant find anything on it but did anybody hear similar?
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London into lockdown. Other counties much lower rates. How do we keep the scummy Northerners in lockdown. Oh, lets talk about a new, more contagious variant of it and we can use that as an excuse, even though no one has mentioned it ever before we had to lockdown our doners in the capital.
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Thats the problem with the UK. You have to sift through the bull and try and work out what the @"$" is going on.
I wish our politicians were more like Australias and Canadas. I could be wrong but i get the impression there is less waffle with them.
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FFS! I waited until yesterday to book my train travel down to Cheltenham for Christmas.
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I would still go! This is why cancelling the ease in restrictions won't work, too many people will have already made plans, booked tickets etc. Hopefully they don't do it.FFS! I waited until yesterday to book my train travel down to Cheltenham for Christmas.
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In the Surrey and Sussex area they only have East Surrey Hospital in Redhill or then Brighton down by the coast. A number of years ago they converted Crawley hospital into nothing more than a nursing home with little capacity leaving folk with up to an hours drive to the nearest hospital. Those with serious conditions don't always make it there.
So,each year in winter East Surrey Hospital is always at full capacity.
I witnessed this up to 3 times a week when my sleeping heart condition that I didn't know that had since birth sprang to life. I was very lucky to have survived those journeys
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39 cases in Sunderland. -18
(24 consecutive days of sub 100 cases per day)
1 death in Sunderland. -6
460 cases in the NE. +54
28 deaths in the NE. -22
238 patients admitted to hospital in the NE & Yorks. +12
2,483 patients in hospital in the NE & Yorks. +11
145 patients on ventilation in the NE & Yorks. -28
18,450 cases in the UK. +6,168
506 deaths in the UK. -110
1,637 patients admitted to hospital in the UK. +179
17,329 patients in hospital in the UK. +2,522
1,288 patients on ventilation in the UK. +17
275,772 tests conducted.
Sunderland 7 day rolling average:
119 cases per 100,000 using backdated data. -23
146 cases per 100,000 using daily data. -15
Approx 206 cases per 100,000 for the UK. +46
+/- compared to one week ago.
Lets see if Sunderland are taken out of Tier 3 tomorrow, clearly we are well below what was required last time round.
On the other side of the coin, the number of people currently in hospital countrywide is only 2000 off the highest point we have had, which was back in April. If that rate keeps increasing as it currently is, we will likely go past the peak in a few days
(24 consecutive days of sub 100 cases per day)
1 death in Sunderland. -6
460 cases in the NE. +54
28 deaths in the NE. -22
238 patients admitted to hospital in the NE & Yorks. +12
2,483 patients in hospital in the NE & Yorks. +11
145 patients on ventilation in the NE & Yorks. -28
18,450 cases in the UK. +6,168
506 deaths in the UK. -110
1,637 patients admitted to hospital in the UK. +179
17,329 patients in hospital in the UK. +2,522
1,288 patients on ventilation in the UK. +17
275,772 tests conducted.
Sunderland 7 day rolling average:
119 cases per 100,000 using backdated data. -23
146 cases per 100,000 using daily data. -15
Approx 206 cases per 100,000 for the UK. +46
+/- compared to one week ago.
Lets see if Sunderland are taken out of Tier 3 tomorrow, clearly we are well below what was required last time round.
On the other side of the coin, the number of people currently in hospital countrywide is only 2000 off the highest point we have had, which was back in April. If that rate keeps increasing as it currently is, we will likely go past the peak in a few days
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I would have to weigh up my options and talk to my family before making a decision. It is one thing me having my opinions but it is another thing my opinions impacting others. One of my daughters had already said I was being selfish to travel while my other daughter is so excited to see me
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Ashford Hospital
East Surrey Hospital in Redhill
Epsom General Hospital in Epsom
Frimley Park Hospital in Frimley
Kingston Hospital in Kingston
Royal Surrey County Hospital in Guildford
St Peter’s Hospital in Chertsey
According to t'internet they are all hospitals in Surrey?
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I'm sure you will do the right thing mate, whichever option that is. I'm going to my friends for Xmas dinner, but being careful in what I do, as I have since the start of this. Being told by the government I can or can't makes absolutely no difference to me. If I think I would put any of them at risk, then I won't go. If I don't think I will, I will go. I will possibly get a test a couple of days beforehand though.
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I was in South Tyneside Hospital twice last week and it was like a ghost town ( South Tyneside and Sunderland hospitals are linked)39 cases in Sunderland. -18
(24 consecutive days of sub 100 cases per day)
1 death in Sunderland. -6
460 cases in the NE. +54
28 deaths in the NE. -22
238 patients admitted to hospital in the NE & Yorks. +12
2,483 patients in hospital in the NE & Yorks. +11
145 patients on ventilation in the NE & Yorks. -28
18,450 cases in the UK. +6,168
506 deaths in the UK. -110
1,637 patients admitted to hospital in the UK. +179
17,329 patients in hospital in the UK. +2,522
1,288 patients on ventilation in the UK. +17
275,772 tests conducted.
Sunderland 7 day rolling average:
119 cases per 100,000 using backdated data. -23
146 cases per 100,000 using daily data. -15
Approx 206 cases per 100,000 for the UK. +46
+/- compared to one week ago.
Lets see if Sunderland are taken out of Tier 3 tomorrow, clearly we are well below what was required last time round.
On the other side of the coin, the number of people currently in hospital countrywide is only 2000 off the highest point we have had, which was back in April. If that rate keeps increasing as it currently is, we will likely go past the peak in a few days
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I lived in Crawley which is in Sussex during the time I mentioned with my heart. I was repeatedly taken to East Surrey Hospital which could take 30 minutes at best to near an hour.
The other Hospitals you mention would have been an hour away from Crawley given the density of the areas and traffic
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Yeah I know, they are under the same trust now. Sunderland isn't very busy at the moment either, my friend was there this morning and he was chatting to the nurses and they said they aren't as busy as normal, but theres very few people in with flu compared to normal
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Rumours are that nothing will change over Christmas 
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What is depressing is the shear amount to people who are dying due to the lack of hospital intervention because of the covid rules and policies. I have absolutely no doubt that more have already died and will continue to die due to these policies.
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See I keep seeing the media saying that but the figures don't support it. Cancer referrals are down, but it seems to be that people aren't going through choice rather than not being able to. I know Sunderland are still doing Cancer appointments (as are the Freeman), they are doing routine COPD appointments, the chest clinic is functioning normally etc. The x-ray department today had a 2 hour wait, so not as though no one is getting seen to.
Thats not to say there have been no deaths or that there won't be in the future due to it, and clearly back in March/April, there were a lot of appointments cancelled, but don't really think thats the case now.
The flipside of course is that without a lockdown to slow the spread, the nightingale hospitals would have been used, and a lot more appointments would have been cancelled, as staff would have had to be moved from general wards/departments to run them
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People have been discussing about mutations of the virus. Here in Hong Kong, the virus now seems to adversely affect younger locals and many in their 30s and 40s are in serious condition once infected with a low CT value ie a high amount of virus. 2 days ago a 42-yesr old woman who was in good health previously died after testing positive to the virus and was hospitalised for just a couple of days. Our med people are stating this is a mutation of the virus and is associated with Nepal. I am not buying this completely as our government has not been that forthcoming when it comes to the pandemic. Sad to say though, younger people are getting infected and with rather serious complications. I dont know about the rest of the world.
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Don’t think so mate, I’m also staying in Trafford, so literally can see the stadium from my hotel window.
heard some grounds allowed limited fans, not sure about Utd tho.
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Kind of despair with the UK gov,they insist that keeping kids at school is of national importance and are threatening court action
against schools who want to close,70% of headteachers want to close immediately if there is any risk to the children and implement
online home schooling
We are now entering a very critical time with the proposed xmas relaxation (or not , gov cant deceide as usual) and children will be mixing
with generations of their families and other households,keeping them at school till Xmas is beyond crazy and pointless and can only
result in a spike of infections and deaths.
Dont know know if things have changed since the distant past when I was at school but we didnt do any serious work in the last
week before the Xmas break.
against schools who want to close,70% of headteachers want to close immediately if there is any risk to the children and implement
online home schooling
We are now entering a very critical time with the proposed xmas relaxation (or not , gov cant deceide as usual) and children will be mixing
with generations of their families and other households,keeping them at school till Xmas is beyond crazy and pointless and can only
result in a spike of infections and deaths.
Dont know know if things have changed since the distant past when I was at school but we didnt do any serious work in the last
week before the Xmas break.
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I don't understand why they couldnt break up yesterday rather than Friday. That means if they were in contact with someone at school, the isolation period would be over by Xmas day. Screw not seeing my granddaughter on Christmas Day if she doesn't show symptoms and doesn't test positive. Not sure why they are asking them to go back later though.
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I think that you are being way too romantic with the factsSee I keep seeing the media saying that but the figures don't support it. Cancer referrals are down, but it seems to be that people aren't going through choice rather than not being able to. I know Sunderland are still doing Cancer appointments (as are the Freeman), they are doing routine COPD appointments, the chest clinic is functioning normally etc. The x-ray department today had a 2 hour wait, so not as though no one is getting seen to.
Thats not to say there have been no deaths or that there won't be in the future due to it, and clearly back in March/April, there were a lot of appointments cancelled, but don't really think thats the case now.
The flipside of course is that without a lockdown to slow the spread, the nightingale hospitals would have been used, and a lot more appointments would have been cancelled, as staff would have had to be moved from general wards/departments to run them
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Lol it’s comical mate, the whole thing..
don’t dare play monopoly btw Xmas day as corona will Surerly kill you off in a heartbeat..
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Just let me digest that for an understanding of it Ben before I can respond mate
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I can't. What the feck are you on about mate?Just let me digest that for an understanding of it Ben before I can respond mate
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Not a great deal to understand mate, just out of curiosity do you need to leave home to earn money?Just let me digest that for an understanding of it Ben before I can respond mate
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