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I never had any doubt mans best friend would be able to help
I wonder what the cats are doing.



They're more likely to walk up to you and sneeze in your face.

Look at that face of the pooch Guntis has posted, compare to a cat and then have a word with yourself if you still prefer the devils pet of choice.

My sister has a cat that literally bounces off the walls and periodically tries to scratch you as it does. Ughhhh
 
They're more likely to walk up to you and sneeze in your face.

Look at that face of the pooch Guntis has posted, compare to a cat and then have a word with yourself if you still prefer the devils pet of choice.

My sister has a cat that literally bounces off the walls and periodically tries to scratch you as it does. Ughhhh
Nice, i need all the allies i can get in my ongoing war vs Dio&Ladyhawke.

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Here is what they do when no one's at home.

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i have to toss my spare sofa this week, its a living room monstrosity


pets will be sad; he s getting a new bed but the cat cuddles every night with the dog :p
 
Errr….I don't think this clip actually advances your position here... :D
Wow, thats a pretty cool clip.
You can actually see the moment the dog senses theres a kid without a helmet riding a bike.
Luckily the dog managed to get the kid down from the bike without any harm just before some sort of hellspawn attacks him and he has to retreat.

Phew!
 
Bundesliga is back on! :thumbsup:

I think it is either no spectators or limited to 300. Can't remember what they agreed on in the end.


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No crowds at all.

Been watching some korean football without the crowds. Pretty pointless.

Now think that is about 8 leagues worldwide back playing.

Belarus league continued as normal throughout and only league that still let fans attend.
 
No crowds at all.

Been watching some korean football without the crowds. Pretty pointless.

Now think that is about 8 leagues worldwide back playing.

Belarus league continued as normal throughout and only league that still let fans attend.

Just searched again for the agreement. 322 people are allowed inside the stadium compound which includes players, staff and maybe spectators. You will need a magnifying glass to see the few fans. :D
 
Just searched again for the agreement. 322 people are allowed inside the stadium compound which includes players, staff and maybe spectators. You will need a magnifying glass to see the few fans. :D

Don't really go to watch football anymore but when i do, this is how i like it

Pre-Covid: get away from me

Post-Covid: see above

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Cant understand the push to get kids back to school,if they go back in June they wont get a lot done
before the summer hols and is it really worth the risk when the death figures seem under control,
it can only increase the infections.
A more sensible approach would be bring in the kids to school in small groups well distanced so the
teacher can a have a couple of days with all the pupils with little risk.The kids are still being educated
at home anyway with teachers assessing their work online.
 
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Don't really go to watch football anymore but when i do, this is how i like it

Pre-Covid: get away from me

Post-Covid: see above

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Only ever been to one game.
People were yelling, and the view was waaaay worse than from my couch at home.
And expensive.
No thank you.
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Cant understand the push to get kids back to school,if they go back in June they wont get a lot done
before the summer hols and is it really worth the risk when the death figures seem under control,
it can only increase the infections.
A more sensible approach would be bring in the kids to school in small groups well distanced so the
teacher can a have a couple of days with all the pupils with little risk.The kids are still being educated
at home anyway with teachers assessing their work online.

Closing schools in the first place was all the time judged to be over reacting by almost all specialists who have quite strong consensus that closing schools don't have remarkable effect in spreading virus.

Now at least can get some idea what to expect when schools continue after summer. Nowhere where schools have been opened, is not reported any remarkable effect to to spreading virus so all the steps back to bit more normal are ok to take when there really is not any known high risks in that.

No short time might help a lot when going back after summer holidays, if it can be seen that not really more infections coming from there (like it have happened elsewhere) it can be much easier with less hassle after summer to get them up and running.

0 infections is mission impossible what's not gonna happen in many countries anytime soon, all people still have their own choice to stay home 24/7 if wishing to do that but there's no reason to force whole public to do same when people start to see that it's not really killing most of people if you go out there and then and open some places.
 
Don't really go to watch football anymore but when i do, this is how i like it

Pre-Covid: get away from me

Post-Covid: see above

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To my knowledge it’s never been possible to watch decent FOOTBALL there, as you’re from Scotland. :p
 
To my knowledge it’s never been possible to watch decent FOOTBALL there, as you’re from Scotland. :p

@Kroffe would like it cos the dogs outnumber the people.

Not FROM here - how dare you - but held captive by the feral natives, torturing me by trying to feed me Monosodium Glutamate on a daily basis. :p

Yeah, the football here is beyond shite...went for a year watching one of the teams and had a neck injury as it was like watching tennis. To think of the players Scotland used to export to England in the 70s and 80s, to this - eek.
 
Closing schools in the first place was all the time judged to be over reacting by almost all specialists who have quite strong consensus that closing schools don't have remarkable effect in spreading virus.

Now at least can get some idea what to expect when schools continue after summer. Nowhere where schools have been opened, is not reported any remarkable effect to to spreading virus so all the steps back to bit more normal are ok to take when there really is not any known high risks in that.

No short time might help a lot when going back after summer holidays, if it can be seen that not really more infections coming from there (like it have happened elsewhere) it can be much easier with less hassle after summer to get them up and running.

0 infections is mission impossible what's not gonna happen in many countries anytime soon, all people still have their own choice to stay home 24/7 if wishing to do that but there's no reason to force whole public to do same when people start to see that it's not really killing most of people if you go out there and then and open some places.

Sorry to boring but I still cant understand why its worth the risk at this stage,not enough evidence is available
yet on the effects of opening schools.
The goverment said it wasnt worth testing incoming passengers at airports as it would make no difference,
likewise shoving untested discharged patients into care homes didnt pose much of a risk,good science
relies on actual results not what politicians think is a good idea at the time.
 
Sorry to boring but I still cant understand why its worth the risk at this stage,not enough evidence is available
yet on the effects of opening schools.

Teachers seem to be split 50/50 on a couple of educational forums I use. I was talking to my granddaughters teacher yesterday for about half an hour and we spoke for a while about this. She doesn't want to go back yet. She says from what she saw before the lockdown and what parents have said to her this week, the class will have less than 50% of pupils arrive anyway. They can't keep them safe from spreading the virus, as much as they tell them to be careful, 6 year olds won't stay away from others constantly. They pick up every cold going as it is at school, so chances of it not getting passed round is remote.

Even if they do manage to enforce social distancing, actual education will be sparse. If the class is split into 2 groups, say mornings and afternoons, then the teachers are going to have to do the same lesson twice, so in effect halving the teaching they should be doing per week. But, if only half the class show up, which I've seen similar figures quoted from other teachers, so presume that is likely in most classes, especially younger age ones, then when the whole class is back in September (or whenever they do return) then the lessons will have to be the same as they do now, so that the kids who didn't attend can catch up.

Obviously the argument for going in is that kids are unlikely to have any serious symptoms, and you have the social and mental side of things. However, I'm not sure there is much benefit to that if they aren't actually allowed to sit next to friends, play with them at playtime etc, and you have to weigh that up against the risk that they would carry the virus home, and infect parents/grandparents.

I think they are trying to get kids back as its free childcare, therefore enabling parents to go back to work, rather than being a benefit for the kids as such.
 
@Kroffe would like it cos the dogs outnumber the people.

Not FROM here - how dare you - but held captive by the feral natives, torturing me by trying to feed me Monosodium Glutamate on a daily basis. :p

Yeah, the football here is beyond shite...went for a year watching one of the teams and had a neck injury as it was like watching tennis. To think of the players Scotland used to export to England in the 70s and 80s, to this - eek.
At least you didnt have to resort to watching Comber Rec on Saturday....... thats torture
 
Sorry to boring but I still cant understand why its worth the risk at this stage,not enough evidence is available
yet on the effects of opening schools.
The goverment said it wasnt worth testing incoming passengers at airports as it would make no difference,
likewise shoving untested discharged patients into care homes didnt pose much of a risk,good science
relies on actual results not what politicians think is a good idea at the time.

It's mostly all experts who have been saying it's not really effective to keep schools closed, also in countries where schools have been opened there haven't been any remarkable issues so now there actually is something to rely on, it's been more politics who even closed them or opening them quite late. Care homes are totally different story and kids attending to schools shouldn't have much to do with them.
 
Meanwhile in london


You can always tell when Millwall are playing at home. I wonder if they would have the same views if their loved ones were dying from it. I actually feel sorry for the police having to try and control a crowd that has the combined IQ of a testicle.
 
Bundesliga restarting, even without spectators, is a return to some sort of normalcy: a new normal. Just like UFC restarted last weekend and Nascar will tomorrow. More and more leagues and sports will follow shortly, and even without crowds it gives a familiar feeling of things getting back to normal.

Schools restarted last friday, only for the "graduating" years at first. Those that start high school next year and those that either finish high school and move on to university or start a job are prioritised over everyone else. Most schools will try and get classes going for some more but those are the focus. It also has to be noted the pupils aren't obligated to attend classes. Have to be honest I don't know exactly how, or if, exams are organised. Universities will definitely hold exams, some are moving them to big event halls.

Kindergarten has basically been running all the time as a form of daycare, nothing much changes there.
 
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If proven isn't that manslaughter?
Yes, if its true and proven that is at the least manslaughter, though it could be murder - I think that there have been a few cases where people with HIV/AIDS have knowingly infected others and have been given life imprisonments.
 
Yes, if its true and proven that is at the least manslaughter, though it could be murder - I think that there have been a few cases where people with HIV/AIDS have knowingly infected others and have been given life imprisonments.

It would be impossible to prove that he caused the illness.

Most he will get charged with would be a simple assault charge.

Sick man that deserves a harsh sentence but no way anyone could convict him of causing the illness that lead to her death.
 
It would be impossible to prove that he caused the illness.

Most he will get charged with would be a simple assault charge.

Sick man that deserves a harsh sentence but no way anyone could convict him of causing the illness that lead to her death.

If I poison your coffee and you die after drinking that coffee, am I guilty of murder or simple assault?

The perpetrator had a (potentially) deadly weapon at his disposal and used it.
Unprovoked, not acting in self-defence, and done with intent to cause (at the very minimum) harm to his victim.

If he merely coughed or sneezed, you could possibly argue it was not deliberate, as they can be reflex or involuntary actions.
But spitting is a deliberate action. For me, that signals intent. He chose to infect/poison someone.
And that person is now dead.

And he surely cannot pretend that he didn't know what the potential consequences of his actions could be.
He'd have had to be living in a bloody cave for the last 4 months not to.

That all said, you are probably right, given that the law is more than capable of being an ass.
 
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If I poison your coffee and you die after drinking that coffee, am I guilty of murder or simple assault?

The perpetrator had a (potentially) deadly weapon at his disposal and used it.
Unprovoked, not acting in self-defence, and done with intent to cause (at the very minimum) harm to his victim.

If he merely coughed or sneezed, you could possibly argue it was not deliberate, as they can be reflex or involuntary actions.
But spitting is a deliberate action. For me, that signals intent. He chose to infect/poison someone.
And that person is now dead.

And he surely cannot pretend that he didn't know what the potential consequences of his actions could be.
He'd have had to be living in a bloody cave for the last 4 months not to.

That all said, you are probably right, given that the law is more than capable of being an ass.
I think the biggest problem is that there is just no way to prove that he caused the illness, since she could have caught the virus anywhere.
 
Wow, thats a pretty cool clip.
You can actually see the moment the dog senses theres a kid without a helmet riding a bike.
Luckily the dog managed to get the kid down from the bike without any harm just before some sort of hellspawn attacks him and he has to retreat.

Phew!
Back to Cats and Dogs for a moment - this is for The One with the contagious yellow skin. :D

A really funny, awesome response. I just can't get the better of you, @Kroffe can I? Sigh.

Now for the reality of that clip. A 4 year old boy ends up with a mauled leg that required 10 stitches.

So it is still Cat 1 Dog absolute zero.
 
Back to Cats and Dogs for a moment - this is for The One with the contagious yellow skin. :D

A really funny, awesome response. I just can't get the better of you, @Kroffe can I? Sigh.

Now for the reality of that clip. A 4 year old boy ends up with a mauled leg that required 10 stitches.

So it is still Cat 1 Dog absolute zero.
The cat does not get points for mauling that poor kids leg after scaring away the hero-dog.
Thats not how this game works Ladyhawke, and you know it!

In other news, this dog just barely got away with his life after this vicious and unprovoked attack!
You can see the poor dog looking at his best friend whos holding the camera and be like "what the hell was that for?"

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I do feel a bit sorry for the kid, but i cant let emotions get in the way of dogs winning this war.
 
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