Coral - 1p's disappearing on slots!

Playford7

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It's not the 1p that's the issue it's that it is happening regular to everyone who plays at GVC on IGT and inspired slots where are these 1ps going? It could potentially be quite an amount over 24hrs
Why on earth would anyone actually care?

the online casino world is rife with wrongs, yet your wanting to address 1p issues.

i doth my hat to you good sir, your clearly fighting the good fight for us mere mortals...
 

kds1977a

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Just fine some "back of fags packet" maths it seems to be roughly 10p per hour that is going missing , now how many players are there signed up to coral/gala/Ladbrokes who could potentially be playing stocks at the same time. For instance if there were 5000 people playing that works out to £500 per hour going missing.
 

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Ag
Just fine some "back of fags packet" maths it seems to be roughly 10p per hour that is going missing , now how many players are there signed up to coral/gala/Ladbrokes who could potentially be playing stocks at the same time. For instance if there were 5000 people playing that works out to £500 per hour going missing.
Again why would anyone give a shit? It’s a nonsense..

maybe look at why some casinos fund streamers with fake money, they charge on depots it or withdrawal, or maybe have rogue terms...

or why chi...

anyhow your 1p crusade is as much use as tits on a fire hydrant.
 

kds1977a

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You obviously don't get the point of this.
The games are reporting wins ox X amount but the balance is being increased by a lower amount on a regular basis. That is a problem wether it is a bug (I wouldn't of thought so as it doesn't happen at other casinos) or somehow been programmed in deliberately (more likely as it's only 1p here and there must won't notice) and as I say if they have thousands of players those 1ps add up
 

Playford7

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You obviously don't get the point of this.
The games are reporting wins ox X amount but the balance is being increased by a lower amount on a regular basis. That is a problem wether it is a bug (I wouldn't of thought so as it doesn't happen at other casinos) or somehow been programmed in deliberately (more likely as it's only 1p here and there must won't notice) and as I say if they have thousands of players those 1ps add up
No for 1p I don’t get the point nor am bothered.

it’s a utter nonsense and waste of time and energy.

however, I wish you all the best in your quest for justice.

your like Batman, just without the batsign or phone.
 

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I've noticed the same on Bwin, which is also part of the GVC group. I'm not sure what all this is about but it's noticeable once you've seen it and it's something that should be looked into. Alot of 1c/p makes alot of money in the end and that's the point.
 

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To be fair, if this is happening this could be quite damaging for them and another case for the UKGC. They already had one scandal with their fake RTP helpfiles
 

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The fact that it's 1p would point to a simple rounding error. In which case the money isn't being lost or added up.
 

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@Playford7 When Marks & Spencer rounded up their prices, i.e exactly £10 rather than £9.99, the 1st year they did so they made an extra £3 million with no loss in expected sales. If every player is being robbed of a penny every 20 spins or so it is a huge amount of extra profit being creamed offf by the casinos.
Hardly small bucks.. and this under the radar robbery which can affect every player is pretty damn disgusting.
Yes- it only pennies - but if it a lot of them......
 

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The fact that it's 1p would point to a simple rounding error. In which case the money isn't being lost or added up.

But there is no rounding to be done if the possible values from the win table are all exact multiples of 2p.

Therefore if a starting balance on such a slot is an even number, the remaining balance after any period of play should always also be an even number.

To an large extent it doesn't matter if the error is the odd penny, pound, or more - it's the fact that the slot is apparently getting its numbers wrong that's the concern.
 

kds1977a

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The fact that it's 1p would point to a simple rounding error. In which case the money isn't being lost or added up.
Exactly as someone else has said playing at 40p there cannot be an odd number. I first saw it at £2 stake where all wins are a multiple of 10p so there cannot be a win where it's anything but a 0 on the end. See the video link for proof win of 9.20 9.19 reported to balance
 

kds1977a

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@Playford7 When Marks & Spencer rounded up their prices, i.e exactly £10 rather than £9.99, the 1st year they did so they made an extra £3 million with no loss in expected sales. If every player is being robbed of a penny every 20 spins or so it is a huge amount of extra profit being creamed offf by the casinos.
Hardly small bucks.. and this under the radar robbery which can affect every player is pretty damn disgusting.
Yes- it only pennies - but if it a lot of them......
From what I can make out it's roughly 10p per hour and so far I have only seen it in inspired/igt(sg gaming) slots
 

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But there is no rounding to be done if the possible values from the win table are all exact multiples of 2p.

Therefore if a starting balance on such a slot is an even number, the remaining balance after any period of play should always also be an even number.

To an large extent it doesn't matter if the error is the odd penny, pound, or more - it's the fact that the slot is apparently getting its numbers wrong that's the concern.

The error won't be in the slot payouts.

Multiple slot providers getting their sums wrong on only one company's sites doesn't make any sense. Logic dictates the issue is with the site.
 

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I had this happen to me the other day on Play N Go but can't remember where. I only noticed as I was playing 20p single line Book of Dead and I noticed my balance was xx.19, which was impossible as it started at an exact £. Can't remember where it was though, quite possibly Ladcrookes.
I get people saying it's only a penny, but if its on one of the biggest groups in the world, there could easily be 10000 people paying at a time. If it happens a couple of times an hour, could easily be a few grand a day they are skimming from customers.
 

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I had this happen to me the other day on Play N Go but can't remember where. I only noticed as I was playing 20p single line Book of Dead and I noticed my balance was xx.19, which was impossible as it started at an exact £. Can't remember where it was though, quite possibly Ladcrookes.
I get people saying it's only a penny, but if its on one of the biggest groups in the world, there could easily be 10000 people paying at a time. If it happens a couple of times an hour, could easily be a few grand a day they are skimming from customers.
Not tried play n go yet
 

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Doesnt matter if its just a penny. Personally, I care and i dont even play at Corals.

Something seriously wrong if some slots are taking pennies considering the mathematical expertise and rigorous testing behind them. I assume these slots have gone through their testing so the test houses either didnt notice or its happened after testing which means the program or process is faulty doesnt it?

'Its only a penny' and 'who really cares' is the kind of attitude i would expect from a rogue casino or operation knowingly carrying out the activity.

Not saying this is the case but have they noticed and taken the same attitude or are they knowingly doing it?

This could be thousands of pounds taken each and every day! Who cares? Let the casinos have it yeh? meh.....
 

kds1977a

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Doesnt matter if its just a penny. Personally, I care and i dont even play at Corals.

Something seriously wrong if some slots are taking pennies considering the mathematical expertise and rigorous testing behind them. I assume these slots have gone through their testing so the test houses either didnt notice or its happened after testing which means the program or process is faulty doesnt it?

'Its only a penny' and 'who really cares' is the kind of attitude i would expect from a rogue casino or operation knowingly carrying out the activity.

Not saying this is the case but have they noticed and taken the same attitude or are they knowingly doing it?

This could be thousands of pounds taken each and every day! Who cares? Let the casinos have it yeh? meh.....
the slots are fine on other casinos thats where the issue lies its only happening on gvc sites
 

colinsunderland

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Doesnt matter if its just a penny. Personally, I care and i dont even play at Corals.

Something seriously wrong if some slots are taking pennies considering the mathematical expertise and rigorous testing behind them. I assume these slots have gone through their testing so the test houses either didnt notice or its happened after testing which means the program or process is faulty doesnt it?

'Its only a penny' and 'who really cares' is the kind of attitude i would expect from a rogue casino or operation knowingly carrying out the activity.

Not saying this is the case but have they noticed and taken the same attitude or are they knowingly doing it?

This could be thousands of pounds taken each and every day! Who cares? Let the casinos have it yeh? meh.....
It will be the accounting system at GVC and not the games causing it.
Let me email someone at GVC see what they say.
 

bamberfishcake

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It will be the accounting system at GVC and not the games causing it.
Let me email someone at GVC see what they say.

You would have thought that kind of thing would be foolproof, only adjustable with the click of a button.......my thoughts anyway :)

Would'nt surprise me if they take a couple of months to rectify it like they did their RTP help files. Absolutely scandalous......no other way to describe them and to think their a huge company. Its the kind of mistakes only small casinos can make and play dumb - I could half believe it, but Corals!

I will stop myself there as they might surprise me and rectify immediately :)
 
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