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Cop punches 17 y/o girl in face!!!

I guess you missed the part where she is shoving the cop and grabbing at him. For all the cop knew she was trying to grab his gun. Those girls were idiots, what were they thinking?? You never ever mess with a cop like that. He had to deal with two obnoxious women that posed a danger to him if they were to take his gun. Got what they deserved. Too bad they didn't listen when the cop asked them not to jaywalk. It is a shame that these two women brought this on themselves, so quit acting so repulsed, any cop would probably do the same thing in that guys shoes. Then again, victim mentality seems to run rampant with you. Weren't you also defending the illegals in the other thread?? Seems that you think anyone should be able to do whatever they want and blame their actions on others. PLEASE!!
 
And don't forget the fact that she has been arrested in the past for kicking an officer in the stomach...

I totally agree. She started it by pushing the cop, and he reacted accordingly. How's he to know their history right off the bat? Even cops aren't mind readers. :)

Put yourself in their shoes. Cops put their lives on the line day after day, and in a situation like that, they have a split second to make a decision in situations like these. You can even see that the "friend" is still going after the cop even after he's trying to get cuffs on the other girl...

...if the cop was so out of line, then the girl that got punched wouldn't be facing felony charges....

Sure, punching a minor may be a felony, but I'm sure that's if the "fight" was unprovoked.
 
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What *really* happened...

Walsh walked up to Levias and grabbed her arm and attempted to handcuff her, but "Levias began twisting around and pull away in an attempt to get away," documents said. As Walsh was handcuffing Levias, the 17-year-old girl ran up behind Walsh and pushed him, and a struggle ensued. The video shows Walsh throwing a punch and hitting the 17-year-old girl.

The 17-year-old was handcuffed and booked into the Youth Services Center for investigation of felony assault.

CBS Affiliate KIRO found court records that show Levias has been arrested for assaulting a police officer before. According to court documents, Levias kicked a King County Sheriff's deputy in the stomach while she resisted arrest at the Ruth Dykeman Center in Burien. She was living in the center last year in the care of Child Protective Services.
 
I think the real story is the blonde chick watching behind them. She's about 4 feet away with her arms crossed while this cop wrestles these two girls. One girl gets a pop in the nose and she doesn't even step back. She doesn't even uncross her arms. She just makes a happy "Ohhh" face. The dust settles and she's still standing there. Talk about a front row seat. No worries about the mayhem 4 feet in front of her. "They almost bumped into me! Yay!.... I think I'll go find a dog fight and see if I can stand inside the cage.... I'm still not uncrossing my arms though."
 
The sad thing and a terrible commentary on our society today is that the cop will probably be sued and/or lose his job over these stupid women. Goodbye sweet America!
 
What happened to pepper spray?


You all honestly believe it's ok to punch a 17 year old in the face like that?

What if she was a tall 10 year old? Is it ok still?


Too bad he didn't drag her across the street by the hair and kick her in the face and ribs until she passed out. :rolleyes:
 
We recently had 2 incidences with "rioting" teens in my quiet little corner of the world. I have a LOT of friends who are police officers, and there is NO way in hell I would even consider doing what they do...There simply isn't enough money in the world.

The first incident involved 17 teenagers who thought it would be fun to go to a local annual church bazaar and desecrate church grounds and then start a riot with the police when they came to break it up. Teens were trying to grab cops' guns and whip sticks, swinging at them with anything available. All underage (16 and 17 years old, and all drunk), and the big kicker???? They all think it's funny :mad:

The second incident was on school grounds during school hours. The seniors had their last fling and had gone home for the day when some underclassmen thought it would be cool to stage a food fight in the cafeteria. When the 2 assistant principles came in to break it up, students started hitting the administrators in the faces with their cell phones. All area police (3 towns, state police and county sheriffs) were called to the scene. The angry mob was moved out of the school by the police when the mob turned on the police. We are talking about 15, 16 and 17 year old boys and girls. Personally, I hope they make examples of these kids, in each case. Somewhere down the line, even teenagers, who are DEFINITELY capable of making these stupid decisions, need to take responsibility for their actions and live with the consequences.

Where have we lost track of right and wrong? Current society is teaching our children they can do anything they want and can get away with it because some idiot will tell them it isn't their fault. Bullshit, personally, I think that is one of the biggest cop outs we can give our children. It doesn't teach them responsibility, it doesn't teach them to think out situations beforehand. I am not saying all children, because to stereotype them is like saying all Africans are gang members, all Irish are drunks, and Germans are nazis (I think you get the drift, sorry if I have pissed anyone off...very unintentional!). But it seems to me, as a society we have let our children down in so many ways, in fact we have actually crippled them. They no longer have to think to do math due to advanced calculators (how many young people do you know who can count change, correctly, back to you without looking at the screen), they can blame their violent/angry temperaments on the music, tv/movies, and video games they are confronted with every day, and they can blame their blaise attitudes on everything else. I'm not quite sure what the solution to all of this is, BUT I personally feel it starts at home. Let the parents have THEIR parental rights back. Perhaps a swift kick in the hinney would get more kids' attention than sitting in time out, after all....I think I turned out somewhat normal (whatever that is)....
 
Well justplay, if the cop had dragged her across the street, that would be justified as well. What if the girl managed to get his gun??? Don't you think a 17 year old can shoot a gun??? The cop acted appropriately and I don't care if it was a 7 year old. You potentially endanger a cops life, and all bets are off, you get what is necessary to subdue you. Have you even taken into account that this isn't some average 17 year old that happened to be in the wrong place at wrong time, but instead a troubled kid with a history of assaulting cops. What did you expect!! You know that in truly heinous crimes that courts do try children as adults don't you?? I suppose that if someone under 18 beats you up that you are going to just let it go??? I doubt it (I know I would protect myself regardless of who was endangering me). Please stop drinking the liberal kool aid, you've had enough!!
 
I agree with you Ksech, but these are 2 girls not a mob of girls or boys, 2 girls.



lost2much...I think you have me confused again...
Please stop drinking the liberal kool aid, you've had enough!!
this doesn't pertain to me at all. I am talking about 2 girls against one MAN...he can't control them? It's kind of funny. A MAN. The only thing he can think of to do is punch her in the face? I see no comment on pepper spray? I feel sorry for his wife.
 
I agree with you Ksech, but these are 2 girls not a mob of girls or boys, 2 girls.



Sorry, but we will have a agree to disagree on this. A GIRL can also be capable of throwing a swing, weilding a knife or a gun just as much as a MAN. Don't get me wrong, I am neither agreeing with nor condoning what the cop did, BUT in the situation I think the cop handled the situation as seen fit at the time. How was he to know the second girl was not going to do him (or an innocent bystander) harm? He could have drawn his gun and then who knows what may have happened, probably a lot worse than getting hit in the nose...
 
I guess your stance on this Justplay is far left, that's why the comment. Women can cause pain to men physically, so the idea that he isn't a real man because he didn't "control" them doesn't fly. For all he knew one of the girls could have had a weapon. You presume that he had pepper spray and that he was in a position to pull it out while under attack. No confusion, your comments on this thread are very LIBERAL! Its law of the land, not law of the jungle, ya know??
 
Just two 17-year-old girls? Here is a less edited view....

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Notice the crowd building up in the background and the barking young, black males circling the confrontation?

Any female that takes it upon herself to go toe-to-toe with a male, better be able to take a punch in return. She forfeited the 17 year old and woman card the instant she punched him. You under estimate women and I don't appreciate that. If I decide to go after a man, he had better defend himself. If he does not, he is going to get an ass-whipping he will never forget, or worse.

By the way, that "girl" was no lightweight. I have never seen a man take a punch any better.

For the record, I weigh 103 lbs...about the size of a ten-year-old.
 
I guess your stance on this Justplay is far left, that's why the comment. Women can cause pain to men physically, so the idea that he isn't a real man because he didn't "control" them doesn't fly. For all he knew one of the girls could have had a weapon. You presume that he had pepper spray and that he was in a position to pull it out while under attack. No confusion, your comments on this thread are very LIBERAL! Its law of the land, not law of the jungle, ya know??


Why are you so against liberals? I am not one way or another, I have different thoughts on certain things. Liberal? Not really, only on some things.

Here are my thoughts on you as to why you write the way you do. (calling everyone a liberal when they don't agree with you)

You have a simple life, so simple in fact you have to act "tough" online, because then there will be no face to face conflict. You feel much safer online. I on the other hand have a very un-simple (if that's a word) life, so online I mainly just go with the flow, post my thoughts, and if someone disagrees I don't resort to name calling (boohoo that really hurts my feeling being called a liberal, that's getting really old) You haven't really figured out who you are in real life, so you act "tough" here, thinking that is "cool". I on the other hand, have figured myself out really early in life (through many things) so I don't have to "act" anyway online except how I really am.

And yes, I think that whole scene could have been handled another way, that is not liberal thinking, that is MY thinking.


Antonia, you have your thoughts and I have mine.
 
well put ksech, i would have written a similar answer, i often think to myelf the kids are getting out of control , worldwide, in "cultivated" countries.

i agree , that although it looks nasty, when a man hits a woman, women can sure do harm if they want to.
and i think its obvious here that the risk was very high that that was this womans intention.
so she can be happy he didnt shoot her, as cops in the usa can obviously do, when threatened.

its sad yes, and i can see why you say what you say justplay, but its really something you can understand, when you grow up in a tough neighbourhood, the "'girlie fights" there end up very different then the ones you are probably used too (i suppose).
i dont like to see stuff like that either, anyway.
i feel a large percentage of parents nowadays are slipping up, so are the schools.
and if were at it, also the law/government should adapt to these new (or not so new) circumstances.
i was raised with a good whooping when i crossed specific lines, and i wasnt too happy then, but i sure as hell am now.
every person needs to know what its like to get hurt, to fully understand what you do when your hurting someone.
empathy is something that seems to be a virtue dying off slowly...
depressing really, nuff said cause i want to concern myself with happy thoughts ^^.
 
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Ok, for all of you defending this "poor, defenseless" young 17 year old, do you realize that she's going to be charged as an ADULT? The crime she committed is an adult one, so she's being treated as such. Just a double standard, imo.....if it's ok for her to be charged as an adult, but yet complain like hell because she got hit as a minor....think about it...


Even if she was tazed or if the cop was able to use pepper spray, the (#$@*&# media and "civil rights" groups (read: get as much attention as we can over stupid shit) would blow that out of proportion, too. However the cop responded in that situation, he would be hung out to dry. I can visualize the headlines pretty easy: "17 YEAR OLD SWEET YOUNG AND INNOCENT GIRL IS TAZED FOR JAYWALKING!!!! OMG STOP THE PRESSES!"

:lolup:
 
I say you are liberal on this issue because your comments are just that justplay. Attacking me and making assumptions as to why I feel the way I do only confirms that you have no cogent arguement and therefore must resort to real name calling. I'm sorry if my logic and vocabulary are over your head, but is it really necessary to make statements about my psyche on here. Tell you what, get a valid arguement and present it, don't resort to the type of BS that only points you out as an uneducated and uninformed ignorant person. Grow up and then come back with a supporting arguement as to why the girl is in the right. Thanks.
 
I say you are liberal on this issue because your comments are just that justplay. Attacking me and making assumptions as to why I feel the way I do only confirms that you have no cogent arguement and therefore must resort to real name calling. I'm sorry if my logic and vocabulary are over your head, but is it really necessary to make statements about my psyche on here. Tell you what, get a valid arguement and present it, don't resort to the type of BS that only points you out as an uneducated and uninformed ignorant person. Grow up and then come back with a supporting arguement as to why the girl is in the right. Thanks.

Go and re-read what I wrote....I don't agree with the punch to the face. It's as simple as that. I don't need a valid argument.

Yes I am uninformed and ignorant because I don't believe in a man punching a woman in the face, or a woman punching a man in the face. :rolleyes:

I don't care if she was arrested 20 times before this, this cop didn't know her history. If he did, that would change my whole view, because then he would have known about her past.

I see how you post, especially in the illegals thread (which by the way I couldn't agree with you more) you are quick to judge someones own views as wrong and yours are always right. Simple life is not really an insult. I only wish I could sit behind a computer pretending everything I write is the only truth and everyone who disagrees must be ignorant or uninformed. Sometimes you (general you) have to accept the fact that other people have different opinons, it doesn't make one opinion right and the other one wrong.

Oh, and I don't need to grow up. :cool:
 
Grrrrr, can't/don't know how to do the multiquote thingy...

To lost2much....deep breath...we will have to agree to disagree (and no I WILL NOT go into a cyber-vernacular battle with you over this...remember...THIS IS MY OPINION). Belittling justplay over this is childish. Big whoop, you have the ability to correctly put together meaningful big words. BUT, when the usage of advanced articulation is used to belittle, demean, or manipulate it detracts from the true message you are trying to convey. Sometimes simple is better. Remember, you can attract more flies with honey than you can with vinegar.

To justplay, I want to apologize if I downplayed your thoughts/feelings on this. I do NOT consider ANYONE on this forum more/ or less intelligent or informed than any other member here. I sincerely hope you will accept my apology!

It is easy to sit in a chair facing a computer and type words. People need to remember there are real-live, feeling/sensitive/opinionated/bleeding the same color blood as you people reading each post. All men (and women) were created equal... It's what you CHOOSE to do with what you learn throughout lifes' lessons that counts. Make your words MEAN something, because spewing hateful, "ignorant" comments only turns the heads of, perhaps, the person/people you truly want to impress.
 
Ksech....why are you apologizing? There is no need to do that. You didn't say anything rude to me? Unless I missed it...lol. Everyone has opinions/thoughts, you said yours without saying anything rude.

Being called ignorant or uninformed isn't a new thing on this board, I see people get called this almost daily here. I kinda like lost2much and his (I assume he's a he...lol) passion about certain topics.

No love lost here. Do we have a group hug smilie? :D
 
lost2much, I am confused by your angry response to just play's opinion on the subject. Are you trying to change her opinion on the matter, provoke her anger or simply demean her? Clearly, she has had a different upbringing than some of us, but why is that a problem? I'm asking because I really would like to know where the anger is coming from in this situation.
 
o.k i was,nt going to get into this one but just watched the video. o.k how to start. for one i hate to say this but its going to come down to a white cop against a black girl and the race card will be played. 2nd the police r held to a higher standed then us normal peeps and there could have been other ways to handly this. like calling for back-up yes she was pushing him and with all the other people around and him being white i think he overreacted to what was going on. there was time for him to pull his pepper spary if he had just stoped trading pouchs with her. then the other side of me says that she was being a bitch and kind of hitting him more like slaping him and she got what she had coming. but i think he will have to pay for hitting her caz of the race card and the uproar it will cause if nothing is done to him. i do hope they put her away for a very long time but then she will just be far worse when she does get out she did it once and from the looks of it she will not change. they need to take people like this who think it is their right to hit anyone let alone a cop and do it more then once very far away from everyone and leave them to seviey on their own maybe with people just like them so they can go around and slap and ponch anyone the like and nobody will have a promble with it. just my 2 cents
 
EXCUSE ME! She belittled me with her comments about all I do is sit in front of the computer like a big man, etc. That is what I was responding to. Justplay is the type that twists things to skew her own way when she cannot defend her opinion. Enough said.
 
It's not anger Antonia, just giving back what justplay gave me a few posts back. Perhaps it is she that should re-read the venom she spewed at me. There is no problem as far as I can see. Justplay has the only opinion that matters here (at least as far as she is concerned).
 
just play initiated the thread and in it she expressed her disgust with the situation and then your post was second:

Then again, victim mentality seems to run rampant with you. Weren't you also defending the illegals in the other thread?? Seems that you think anyone should be able to do whatever they want and blame their actions on others. PLEASE!!

Then she got mad and took a more aggressive approach and it went tit-for-tat as far as mudslinging.

Humor an old gal and do not take this as any form of condemnation. As far as the punch business was handled, you and I have some common ground. What was it in her post that provoked your angery response to it?
 
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You have a simple life, so simple in fact you have to act "tough" online, because then there will be no face to face conflict. You feel much safer online. I on the other hand have a very un-simple (if that's a word) life, so online I mainly just go with the flow, post my thoughts, and if someone disagrees I don't resort to name calling (boohoo that really hurts my feeling being called a liberal, that's getting really old) You haven't really figured out who you are in real life, so you act "tough" here, thinking that is "cool". I on the other hand, have figured myself out really early in life (through many things) so I don't have to "act" anyway online except how I really am.

These are the comments lost2much is talking about.

Lets weigh this out...."simple life" "act tough" "haven't figured out who you are in real life"

VS

"logic and vocabulary over your head" "uneducated" "uniformed" "ignorant"
"grow up" "venom she spewed"


IMO they were both rude posts aimed at each other. I'm over it, I guess lost2much isn't.


Justplay has the only opinion that matters here (at least as far as she is concerned

For the second time....my opinion is, I don't condone a man punching a woman in the face or a woman punching a man in the face. Very simple.
 
Yes, I understand that you both got mad and nailed eachother. I'm just trying to figure out what happened from the first to the second post. What was the trigger? Only lost2much can provide the answer to this. It would be ideal if both of you reached at least a detente, so any angry residue doesn't spread to other encounters. Could that have happened?
 
I have known Just play on the forums for several years and she speaks with her heart as alot of us do, she is not one that enjoys conflict imo, she is a very nice person and i have alot of respect for her and her opinions just as we all should respect each others opinions, there will always be two sides of a issue, those that agree and those that dont, it doesnt make ones opinion better than the other, but we all are each entitled to our own:).


Laurie
 
I personally feel that the girl was out of line. HOWEVER, the cop has been trained and has been taught better ways to subdue a suspect without socking them in the face. JMO.
 
Yes, I understand that you both got mad and nailed eachother. I'm just trying to figure out what happened from the first to the second post. What was the trigger? Only lost2much can provide the answer to this. It would be ideal if both of you reached at least a detente, so any angry residue doesn't spread to other encounters. Could that have happened?

I think you are referring to when lost2much had me confused with someone else, he apologized a few posts later for that.
 
Cops put their lives on the line everyday. In most large cities there are probably more people that hate cops than people that like them. Nobody wants to see a cop unless there's a problem and the problem isn't you. Imagine doing a job day in and day out where almost everyone you see doesn't like you and doesn't want to see you.... (Actually I do that on purpose but that's beside the point.)

We hand the cops a gun and a badge and we say "Ok, protect us and maintain order." We put them in a position of authority and for the system to work people have to respect that authority. But some people aren't capable of that and some people have just never learned to do it. And that is when you have the people that we've hired in the line of fire.

In a physical altercation there is no way any police officer can know exactly what a person will do. Fending off an attack from two people (Men or women) at the same time is double jeopardy because either of them could reach for his gun or pull their own. Either could have a knife. The situation has to be dealt with quickly and it's rather hard to weigh the pros and cons of the amount of force being used or whether or not there is a better way to handle the situation in the 2 or 3 seconds it takes for it to become life threatening or fatal.

Police officers know they're lives are on the line everyday and none of them have any intention of ending the day dead. They're going to do what's necessary to stay alive. You wrestle a cop you're going to get hurt. This isn't a rec. room tickle fight. What kind of mentality does it take for a person to turn a jaywalking ticket into assaulting a police officer? Is it the same mentality that turns assaulting a police officer into killing one?
 
Thanks justplay! I did miss the apology. It is clear to see that you are both very passionate and expressive people, which are fine qualities. Your opinions are different, but like lauriejim pointed out, it doesn't make one right or one wrong. Passionately disagree, but it requires balance in the expression of it in order to have impact. You both have good communication skills and don't need to resort to labels and accusations to stand your ground.
 
Lots of comments on YouTube about this issue.

Why the 17 thought she could lay hands on a police officer is beyond me. Guess she missed out on the respect authority speech from her parents...:rolleyes:


It all goes back on how we teach our children or how we were taught growing up imo, i was never allowed to address someone by their given name if they were adults, always yes sir and no ma'am, please and may i and if we didnt we wouldnt get time out or something like a cell phone taken away for a week, we got our asses whipped and even a paddling at school if we misbehaved in class, thats not allowed anymore.

I dont believe in slapping or whipping a child with a belt but im a firm believer that a smack on that bottom when a child misbehaves is an attention getter, after all its the parents who should be teaching their children. How will this 17 year old teach her future children? Makes you wonder about those yuppie parents out there who like to reason with a child and treat them like grown ups, when they are just plain kids, or the parents that just dont give a shit and let the system raise them.

We have become a society where its ok to be disrespectful, where we dont have to use good manners and its saddening and i dont like it one bit.

Laurie
 
It all goes back on how we teach our children or how we were taught growing up imo, i was never allowed to address someone by their given name if they were adults, always yes sir and no ma'am, please and may i and if we didnt we wouldnt get time out or something like a cell phone taken away for a week, we got our asses whipped and even a paddling at school if we misbehaved in class, thats not allowed anymore.

I dont believe in slapping or whipping a child with a belt but im a firm believer that a smack on that bottom when a child misbehaves is an attention getter, after all its the parents who should be teaching their children. How will this 17 year old teach her future children? Makes you wonder about those yuppie parents out there who like to reason with a child and treat them like grown ups, when they are just plain kids, or the parents that just dont give a shit and let the system raise them.

We have become a society where its ok to be disrespectful, where we dont have to use good manners and its saddening and i dont like it one bit.

Laurie

Ok, did you read my mind or what?;)

I could spend hours talking or writing about my wife's best friend and how she raised her 3 children as a single parent. Basically, no rules, responsibilities, consequences, etc. The stories that I heard just went on and on about her kids and even continue into adulthood...

What I find interesting though is that there are parents that think that how their kids act is in no way a reflection back on them. Craziness.

As for myself and my wife, we decided not to have any children. Maybe I look at things from a different perspective, but I doubt it...
 
Well said, Lauriejim.

I would be absolutely appalled to see a video of my 17 year old daughter acting like this. Kids are no longer taught to respect authority. And, these same kids place no value on themselves or anyone else. I don't think any of you would be happy to see your child acting like this.

The cop will pay a price for his actions. It is easy to condemn his actions, because we weren't in his shoes. I feel for him, and hope he comes out of this without having his dignity and his hope for justice being taken away from him.

I have no beef with anyone having different opinions. But, what I will say again is, what if it were YOUR 17yr. OLD DAUGHTER that acted like such a brat and/or nutjob?

What a world we are turning into and it is not good.
 

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