coolcat delay tactics-6 weeks an counting

Partial Quote from Chayton: "EDIT: This is truly bizarre, I just posted this and the phone rang...I picked it up and guess who it was? Christopher DiAngelo! lol....no sh*t."

:lolup:

That cracked me up! Thanks for the laugh.
 
How about boycotting ALL RTG SITES until the rogues go away?

Great in theory but to achieve the affect you'd need a lot of affiliates to boycott RTG. And that my friend wont happen. Least not unless it's affecting their income.

But I do have another idea, I believe more affective, and it wont require any affiliates assistance. The additional benefit should kill two birds with one stone.

Wont let that cat (no pun intended - some poetic justice maybe) out off the bag just yet. But keep your ear to the pavement ;)


Cheers

:)

Dave
 
Great in theory but to achieve the affect you'd need a lot of affiliates to boycott RTG. And that my friend wont happen...

Good point. And true.

But I do have another idea, I believe more affective, and it wont require any affiliates assistance....

If I can be of any help in any way - count me IN.
 
Are You literate?

Here is my original post before you defrocked it with stupid intention.
Thanks for the heads up. My wife and I won't play there. I think she played some comp money a while back, but it is bad enough to wait three weeks for a Rival casino to pay (a recent win we had), six weeks is enough time to go from Park Place to Skidrow. I hope you get your money.

"I buy my ink by the barrel"-Mark Twain


Now as my newly deceased friend Fess Parker would say, or his friend Buddy Ebsen or mutual friend, Ronald Wilson Reagan, I paid for this mike. I and my wife spend several g's a month in casinos and I just empathized with the guy that did not get paid.
Since you must live on Elmer's glue more than coffee, I will explain it so even an ignoramus will get it: My wife (CLJ7221) does the research and we have been in here for years looking at who and who doesn't get paid. I would be up shit's creek without a paddle if she thought we were blowing it on anything without a probability of equitable return.

Good day sir!
I totally agree with Pina's original response. Nobody is saying that new players could possibly know which casinos are rogue and which ones aren't. Long term members of this forum should know at the very least the worst of the bunch.

Rambler thanked the OP for the heads up. This is a 7 year member. Even if you never left the forum, never read the rogue list and only read the posts on this site you should know at the very least the most evil casinos of all.

I don't need to read the bible to know who the devil is.

It would be nice if people took as much time and care chosing a reputable casino to play at as they did choosing a movie to watch on cable but they don't. But that's how sales people work. They toss around words like "free" and "offer" and "deal" and before people know it they're freely giving their money for a crappy offer and getting a raw deal.

Then they come here and learn why they haven't been paid for the last two months. I can't blame anyone because I did it myself. And I came here and I read and I learned. Now I haven't been a member of this forum for anywhere near 7 years yet no post I read about Cool Cat or Virtual ripping people off is considered a head's up. You've been here for 7 years. How long has your head been down?
 
I just love threads like this. ;)

Shitholes like Gambling Wages/Virtual get all the "bad publicity" they could want from these type of threads... yet I think they actually benefit from it. :eek:

It's really unfortunate that every so often a "newbie" pops up here and says that they played there (and got paid) "before they realized how bad they were".

I truly feel that "some" from here will actually go and play at a Gambling Wages/Virtual shithole because of the one or two "newbies" that posted that they played there and got paid... regardless of all the negative feedback given by many of the longtime and respected members of Casinomeister. :what:

I feel it's now a waste of time to "try" to educate people about these shithole casinos... it's like beating a dead horse... IT WON'T HELP. :(

There are probably 40-50 threads here on CM about these shitholes... and it seems people just disregard them... or are just too lazy to bother reading them.

Some things just "never change"... :rolleyes:
 
I just love threads like this. ;)

Shitholes like Gambling Wages/Virtual get all the "bad publicity" they could want from these type of threads... yet I think they actually benefit from it. :eek:

It's really unfortunate that every so often a "newbie" pops up here and says that they played there (and got paid) "before they realized how bad they were".

I truly feel that "some" from here will actually go and play at a Gambling Wages/Virtual shithole because of the one or two "newbies" that posted that they played there and got paid... regardless of all the negative feedback given by many of the longtime and respected members of Casinomeister. :what:

I feel it's now a waste of time to "try" to educate people about these shithole casinos... it's like beating a dead horse... IT WON'T HELP. :(

There are probably 40-50 threads here on CM about these shitholes... and it seems people just disregard them... or are just too lazy to bother reading them.

Some things just "never change"... :rolleyes:


Let's not stop at GamblingWages people.


The following are ALL affiliate marketing programs owned by The Virtual Casino Group:

Gambling Wages
Acerevenue
Bingo4Affiliates/Netsurf Media
Silver Arrow Marketing
Curgam Malta
Icronex Media
 
Rambler - any point you were trying to get across has been overshadowed by your descent into the pit of personal insults.

You can disagree with someone without inferring they 'sniff glue' or are 'illiterate'. Really poor form IMO.

Hey Nifty,
have you just become a diplomat all of a sudden? I remember you being very mean spirited and insulting to me in one of my posts without even hearing or asking my side of the story.I understand how huge the "Mob Mentality" is among most in here but, try to step back and realize, that post was not sent to you and why don't you let the other person reply. certainly, you do have another life besides this forum .... I hope.
 
I remember you being very mean spirited and insulting to me in one of my posts without even hearing or asking my side of the story.

Im waiting for the quotes Rambler/CLJ.....if you are happy to provide them?

that post was not sent to you and why don't you let the other person reply
.

When someone posts something as rude as what you/your husband did, it affects the integrity of the forum and that, my friend, is very important to me.....but not, obviously, to you.

Im also curious as to why you are here replying to my post when it wasnt directed at you - kinda double standards isnt it??

Ive always found that when someone cant sustain an intelligent argument, they turn to personal insults.

You are entitled to post your opinions, as long as they dont denigrate other members for their opinion.

My opinion is that you were, and are, out of line.

As for not having another life, I also find that those who have gambling as their 'crutch' are the ones who fly off the handle and spit fire at the first opportunity (e.g when someone disagrees with them). Fortunately, my life is well-balanced and I dont feel the need to do such things.
 
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Interesting tid-bit about Costa Rica based casinos.

It is also important to understand that just because an online casino is licensed by an online gambling jurisdiction, does not mean it is regulated. A prime example is Costa Rica, where over 200 online betting operations are licensed to do business. The only catch is that Costa Rica does not have any legislation in place that imposes regulations, monitoring and testing of online casino operations. Their license condition simply requires that operators be physically based out of Costa Rica, and that they do not accept wagers from Costa Rica residents. Since these operators are self-regulated, consider it a "gamble at your own risk" scenario. But to be fair, there have been some internet betting sites to come out of Costa Rica who have managed to prove themselves reliable and fair over the years.
 
there are other ppl who just bought a computer like I did and occasionally liked to gamble and that did receive an offer.(whatever spamming) Not all of these ppl know about casinomaister

Your 100% right kakata :thumbsup:

These rogue casino clip joints live on noobie gamblers and those who know they are dodgy but still either promote them or play there.

I feel it's now a waste of time to "try" to educate people about these shithole casinos... it's like beating a dead horse... IT WON'T HELP.

I sooo understand where you coming from...
But if we all just gave up and left the rogues to go unchallenged, things would be a whole lot worse.

In 9 years we certainly haven't closed the likes of The Virual Casino Group down. However it's clear we've affected their income and they certainly get p!ssed when we throw spanners in their machine.

We have however closed other rogues and that proves we're all doing something right :thumbsup:


Cheers

:)

Dave
 
Here is my original post before you defrocked it with stupid intention.
Thanks for the heads up. My wife and I won't play there. I think she played some comp money a while back, but it is bad enough to wait three weeks for a Rival casino to pay (a recent win we had), six weeks is enough time to go from Park Place to Skidrow. I hope you get your money.

"I buy my ink by the barrel"-Mark Twain


Now as my newly deceased friend Fess Parker would say, or his friend Buddy Ebsen or mutual friend, Ronald Wilson Reagan, I paid for this mike. I and my wife spend several g's a month in casinos and I just empathized with the guy that did not get paid.
Since you must live on Elmer's glue more than coffee, I will explain it so even an ignoramus will get it: My wife (CLJ7221) does the research and we have been in here for years looking at who and who doesn't get paid. I would be up shit's creek without a paddle if she thought we were blowing it on anything without a probability of equitable return.

Good day sir!

Someone finally lifted his head up. :thumbsup:
 
The same can be said for Malta.

Here's an interesting article on that jurisdiction:


Malta Lotteries And Gaming Authority: the non-regulating regulator
Written by Caruso on July 4, 2008


The Malta Lotteries And Gaming Authority is the governmental body whose job it is to oversee and regulate all gambling operations located in Malta. The 2004 Remote Gaming Regulations represents the governing legislation, and it includes the following encouraging clause:

The Authority may order the suspension or cancellation of a license if…the license holder has failed to meet commitments to players.

This is important, because the ultimate purpose of any gambling regulatory organization is to ensure protection of its licensees’ customers, the players.

On the face of it, this appears to be a pretty serious organisation; it’s a governmental body, and one located within the European Union as opposed to some Caribbean or Costa Rican outpost; it’s got a snappy website whose contacts page lists an email address for player complaints; the LGA also moves on the international circuit: they attended the 2008 International Casino Exhibition in London this year, and will be attending the European iGaming Congress and Expo in Barcelona in a few months. It’s fair to say that the LGA folk don’t exactly hide away behind closed doors.

So, does the LGA ensure that its licensees “meet commitments to players”?

No.

In fact, the Malta Lotteries And Gaming Authority appears to do nothing whatsoever for the players.

As reported in the Malta Independent Online “Gamer demands £66,000 payout” report, and discussed in reasonable detail at the Winneronline forum, in late 2005 a player racked up £66,000 of winnings at Malta-based operation “Bingos”, which the casino subsequently refused to pay, citing “software error”. The LGA initiated an investigation, and along the way reported that there was no software error. Beyond that, they made no ruling; rather extraordinarily, they told the player to take legal action against the operator in Malta, and apparently offered some guidance with this task.

Before the matter came to trial, and after the player had spent a lot in legal fees, the casino in question offered a payment settlement which the player accepted. This would almost certainly have come with a non-disclosure agreement, as the player made no further comment and the exact final details were never reported.

Why did the player have travel to Malta and take expensive legal action? And why did the LGA advise him to do this while they were still “investigating”? A regulator’s job is to investigate a case and rule on it, not encourage the complainant to sort it out himself at his own expense while their investigation is ongoing.

This is not regulation, this is passing the buck – and it’s grossly unprofessional and unacceptable. The LGA has at its disposal the right to suspend or revoke licenses “if the license holder has failed to meet commitments to players”. They have absolute power in this regard. Yet, they prefer to let the player divest them of their responsibilities and do nothing of value.

All that said, at least in the above case the LGA appeared active to a degree. More recently, even this has been almost totally absent.



Also here is a response from a rep here while I was requesting information on locating regulations:


Hi Carl,

i am not sure i really understand what you want.

If you want any response from the Malta Gaming Authority you should show up there in person with a drawn weapon.

They invented bureaucracy!

We will soon switch to a place where we could get an answer by just making a phone call.
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Hey Nifty,
have you just become a diplomat all of a sudden? I remember you being very mean spirited and insulting to me in one of my posts without even hearing or asking my side of the story.I understand how huge the "Mob Mentality" is among most in here but, try to step back and realize, that post was not sent to you and why don't you let the other person reply. certainly, you do have another life besides this forum .... I hope.

You know, every time your husband acts nasty, you show up right after him, either to apologise or post like above. There is no mob mentality against you or your husband, it's called civilized conversation.

We all post "snarky" here and there, no one is perfect. The difference between other posters and your husband, he is always posting with a total lack of respect. That's what everyone gets tired of.

As far as virtual casinos go, they are nasty, they were nasty, and they will always be nasty.

It is called ROGUE CASINOS.
 
i do google the casinos pina. and yes i do read the forum, but there are times when reading on the forums with all the different good advice that things still miss the eye . and sometimes when i read i will easily be sidetracked to another topic. but if a player comes on here and asks a bout a casino that they dont know is on the rogue list it does not bother me to reply back in a simple manner that it is rouged and move on.
 
i do google the casinos pina. and yes i do read the forum, but there are times when reading on the forums with all the different good advice that things still miss the eye . and sometimes when i read i will easily be sidetracked to another topic. but if a player comes on here and asks a bout a casino that they dont know is on the rogue list it does not bother me to reply back in a simple manner that it is rouged and move on.

Glad to hear it Reda. :thumbsup:

And for any newbies who read this...I think it was 4oak who posted about players finding some banner farm when looking up a casino, rather than finding a place such as CM. And he's right. If you go to Google, and type in "Coolcat Casino"....I don't doubt what you will end up with is a page full of links to affiliate sites, all promoting the Virtual Group, and other rogue casinos.

But...if you instead type "Coolcat Casino problems" or maybe "Coolcat Casino complaints"...it will bring up entirely different results. And hopefully this will be one of the first places you land.

Actually...just did a quick test, and the first option will lead you to a virtual wasteland of rogue webmasters, all pushing Virtual and Coolcat like a crack dealer on the corner...touting 1000% explosion bonuses, etc.

The second option provides you a direct link to CM's rogue list, second link page one of Google.

Google is your friend...you just need to know what to feed it. :laugh:
 
Here is my original post before you defrocked it with stupid intention.
Thanks for the heads up. My wife and I won't play there. I think she played some comp money a while back, but it is bad enough to wait three weeks for a Rival casino to pay (a recent win we had), six weeks is enough time to go from Park Place to Skidrow. I hope you get your money.

"I buy my ink by the barrel"-Mark Twain


Now as my newly deceased friend Fess Parker would say, or his friend Buddy Ebsen or mutual friend, Ronald Wilson Reagan, I paid for this mike. I and my wife spend several g's a month in casinos and I just empathized with the guy that did not get paid.
Since you must live on Elmer's glue more than coffee, I will explain it so even an ignoramus will get it: My wife (CLJ7221) does the research and we have been in here for years looking at who and who doesn't get paid. I would be up shit's creek without a paddle if she thought we were blowing it on anything without a probability of equitable return.

Good day sir!
:lolup:

Elmers is a water based glue and those are no fun. :rolleyes:
 
....Reda if u r single...Im rich....I would like you to think about it ;);)

In 2006 I didnt know Google.!!
my daughter, after I asked her,suggested me a place called "ask jeeves"...so probably she didnt know either about google.

The first thing I did, I typed the name of the casino I won at, not "trouble or problem about so&so casino" why should I have thought about problem ????

Since I believe and hope that Im not the last idiot on the face of earth.....but simply an average idiot....lol.., so ,if I didnt do it...thosands more like me didnt.
Im convinced that 90% of first time online player wont "google"

Many first timer are lucky enough to step in a banner of Inet or 3 dice...does that means they are smarter??? I dont think so.

They probably will 'google' after they win ....and most probably they wont if they simply lose 10 or 20 bux, the amount they had already planned to lose just for the fun of it..

I also feel like phil Ivey when I watch High Stakes Poker....why? cause I can see the hole cards.

Why someone should start from the presumption that he/she MUST google before depositing 25 bux.......I dont google and never did Florida Lottery....still....fake scratch tickets were found ( I read it on an Italian newspaper)and people didnt get paid.....Im happy for them they didnt come here to tell their story :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
....Reda if u r single...Im rich....I would like you to think about it ;);)

In 2006 I didnt know Google.!!
my daughter, after I asked her,suggested me a place called "ask jeeves"...so probably she didnt know either about google.

The first thing I did, I typed the name of the casino I won at, not "trouble or problem about so&so casino" why should I have thought about problem ????

Since I believe and hope that Im not the last idiot on the face of earth.....but simply an average idiot....lol.., so ,if I didnt do it...thosands more like me didnt.
Im convinced that 90% of first time online player wont "google"

Many first timer are lucky enough to step in a banner of Inet or 3 dice...does that means they are smarter??? I dont think so.

They probably will 'google' after they win ....and most probably they wont if they simply lose 10 or 20 bux, the amount they had already planned to lose just for the fun of it..

I also feel like phil Ivey when I watch High Stakes Poker....why? cause I can see the hole cards.

Why someone should start from the presumption that he/she MUST google before depositing 25 bux.......I dont google and never did Florida Lottery....still....fake scratch tickets were found ( I read it on an Italian newspaper)and people didnt get paid.....Im happy for them they didnt come here to tell their story :rolleyes::rolleyes:


Kakata I do understand the point you are trying to make and yes I was guilty of the same thing when I was a newbie. I got sucked in by one of the virtual properties. I played a few freebies at various places and then took the plunge by depositing. It was 25 bux and I didn't really expect anything except a diversion of my time. I did have to talk to someone in chat to find out more about the deposit options as of course I didn't want to risk my debit/cc card and there I found out about neteller, so I felt a bit more safe with that. Did I expect to win.......nope, did I investigate the casino, nope. I had probably deposited a total of $300 over the next couple of months before I won anything that I even considered cashing out. I won a small random at one of those RTG's. Then I was wondering how to get my money out and I came across this site. I realized pretty quick I was screwed so I played it back, and after reading what I read here I then knew better, so I didn't go back. So yes.......I think you are right that most newbies don't investigate to start with and yes we are sometimes too hard on the newbies.......but yet when a member has been here for any length of time, how could they NOT know better? And in my opinion.......if they aren't a newbie, they shouldn't be here whining about it. Someone who isn't a newbie should be :o to admit that they stooped that low.....IMO.
 
you referring to Rambler? He didt say he was going to play there nor that he did...he said that long ago his wife playd there some free chips.......well thats what I undearstood.:o
Reda? I think she meant that sometimes some threads do slip unnoticed cause of more interesting ones and that she would SIMPLY suggest/tell a newbie :dont play there and move on. .....thats why I proposed:D
 
:lolup: awww i cant except your proposal ka , but ill keep it in mind.:)
yes i am the old member but i was only responding to a members post about cool cat. i did not put money in the casino. i played the free money they gave me . if i had won of course i would have asked for my money just hoping i might get paid. i just played my free money and deleted the casino. once you read all the reviews on this casino there is no way i would put money of my own in it.
 
Here's an interesting article on that jurisdiction:
...Malta Lotteries And Gaming Authority: the non-regulating regulator
Written by Caruso on July 4, 2008
...The Malta Lotteries And Gaming Authority is the governmental body whose job it is to oversee and regulate all gambling operations located in Malta...So, does the LGA ensure that its licensees “meet commitments to players”? No. In fact, the Malta Lotteries And Gaming Authority appears to do nothing whatsoever for the players....Also here is a response from a rep here while I was requesting information on locating regulations:...Hi Carl,...i am not sure i really understand what you want....If you want any response from the Malta Gaming Authority you should show up there in person with a drawn weapon....They invented bureaucracy!...

What so-called online gaming regulatory agency anywhere actually regulates anything? Not one with any teeth that I've ever heard of. And even if any of these agencies had personnel who could recognize a page of programming instructions when they saw one, who has the authority to demand that the operators or software providers give them access? The only thing regulating any online casino or poker room is the desire of the operator to stand out as an above board, legit and secure gaming house with superior customer service and prompt payouts.

...If you go to Google, and type in "Coolcat Casino"....I don't doubt what you will end up with is a page full of links to affiliate sites, all promoting the Virtual Group, and other rogue casinos....But...if you instead type "Coolcat Casino problems" or maybe "Coolcat Casino complaints"...it will bring up entirely different results. And hopefully this will be one of the first places you land....

I've been telling anyone who'll listen, for years, to "just Google it and you'll know right away if its a problem site!" Never tried it. Now I know to tell them to add "problems and complaints" to the search. :o
 
if someone has been called names like Dave...it has been only from the few thousands people(idiots btw) whoom DO know about gambling online and forums world....on the otherside tho...there are billions who do NOT know anything....Im repeating myself.
Im 60 now...few years ago I decided to buy a computer....right? Ok....while learning how to use it...I received a spam or email or whatever ...I dont recall.
so I said let me try....cause Ive always liked the thrill of gambling.
I won.
After I won, I thought ...will I get paid???? Only AFTER I won...
before that,(the win) I didnt give shit about the 50 bux I would have lost.
I deposited just to have some fun.
Now, I won 27K....ahhhhh ok now its getting interesting...I want my money...so I got worried (27 fkkin grands)..and I begun asking people who knew about computer....how to search for something and how could I possibly get paid my winnings....and so on.Why didnt I do it earlier?Cause I didnt care about 50 bux...I relly didnt....a dinner with my wife cost 2x that...and its boring.
Since Im not the most idiot in the world (just out of probabilitys) Im sure that, around the world ....there are other ppl who just bought a computer like I did and occasionally liked to gamble and that did receive an offer.(whatever spamming)
Not all of these ppl know about casinomaister chuchu laurie kakata pinababy and Dave .....actually none knows.
Do you want to undearsteand Pina or not?
I can assure you ....you would love to have me as friend.

Kakata,

First I love you as my friend. Always interesting but def you love the gals more lol.

When I was a newbie in 2001, I was ripped off more times than anyone can imagine and it was only when I found Gambling Grumbles (Julie Sidwell (RIP)) that I got back a fraction of what I was owed. I committed all the sins, reversing withdrawals, playing at rogue RTG casinos etc. etc. At that time, online gaming was a mystifying experience for me as I never expected to gamble on the internet. I was also losing heavily at land-based casinos so a switch was inevitable I guess.

Many of us may probably have reached the stage when we can easily spot a rogue outfit from a clean one but when I recall how I was ripped off by some of the rogues, I can understand how helpless a newbie can feel and I think we can be a tad more sympathetic and propose what course of action to take.
 
I can understand how helpless a newbie can feel and I think we can be a tad more sympathetic and propose what course of action to take.


....great...that's all I was "unsucessfully " asking for.....and it took me 4 ever ....
you just said it in few words....:notworthy

maybe Im not an average idiot.... but something worse than that :o:o
 
I can understand how helpless a newbie can feel and I think we can be a tad more sympathetic and propose what course of action to take.


....great...that's all I was "unsucessfully " asking for.....and it took me 4 ever ....
you just said it in few words....:notworthy

maybe Im not an average idiot.... but something worse than that :o:o


I want to know about all these women Kakata:eek:Just when i thought i was the only one ( heavy sigh ) you go off and propose to another, you are no idiot my friend, biggest flirt on CM well thats a huge YES:D


Laurie
 

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