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Question Consumption order regarding real money and bonus

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by notplayer, Jul 1, 2016.

    Jul 1, 2016
  1. notplayer

    notplayer Dormant account

    Software Development
    There are different bonus systems with different rules:

    different basic bonus systems:
    1. "one-wallet system" where there is one account with real money and bonus money together, and money is consumed using "consumption order"
    2. "two-wallet system" where real money and bonus money are not mixed and are in different accounts, so you can choose what account to use

    consumption order of "one-wallet system" can be:
    • real money first, then bonus
    • deposit/tied/locked money first, then bonus, then real money
    • real money are wagered together with bonus money in equal proportions

    real money counting towards Wagering Requirements:
    • real money count towards WR
    • real money do NOT count towards WR

    This question is about "one-wallet system" mainly because in "two-wallet system" there is no consumption order.
    What in your opinion should be consumed first and should real money count towards completing WR?
  2. Jul 1, 2016
  3. geordiecolin

    geordiecolin Sells powdered water in the Gobi CAG PABnononaccred mm4

    West Sussex
    I thought that this thread was going to be about tuberculosis :rolleyes:

    I think it is taking the pee when a deposit bonus is locked at bonus plus deposit x 25 and over. Maybe bonuses should be regulated so as to address the balance away from the casino's
  4. Jul 1, 2016
  5. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

    Self- Employeed
    BetAt or Leo Vegas have a good system as does Royal Panda.

    Cash played first and can make a withdrawal at any time (thus forfeiting bonus)

    Wagering starts at Betat and LV should you lose your cash and dip into bonus, RP wagering starts from the off but stops if you lose cash and start using bonus funds.

    Both fair IMO as players know what they are getting into from the start and if you get that good early hit then you can enjoy it!

    Any site which ties funds in from the start and has fair wagering (no higher than 35xB) is also a good deal IMO.

    25x D+B which we are seeing more and more is ridiculous on any bonus < 100%, in fact we should NEVER have to wager OUR 'D'

    Just my opinion but one I feel is fair.
    4 people like this.
  6. Jul 1, 2016
  7. chiya

    chiya Experienced Member PABnononaccred

    How can you withdraw if real money does not count towards completing WR, if completing WR is required before withdrawal can be made? This means no matter how high your balance gets you can never even start the WR unless you first lose your real money.

    Yako Casino used to have terms describing the situation above which made withdrawal impossible and I actually made a thread about it .. Well apparently the bonus rules were just written incorrectly. I have seen similar rules in other casinos and I always wonder if it's a mistake or designed to outright cheat the player out of his deposit.
  8. Jul 1, 2016
  9. notplayer

    notplayer Dormant account

    Software Development
    non-locked balance = 10.000
    locked deposit = 1.000
    bonus 100% = 1.000
    full balance = 10.000 + 1.000 + 1.000 = 12.000

    so in some systems you can withdraw your non-locked balance that is 10.000 here.

    aah, see your point, "real money" is both in "non-locked balance" and "locked deposit"

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