Bonus Complaint Club Worlds policy on cancelled w/d

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I do not agree and would like to see in writing where Club World does not considered cancelled withdrawals as deposits. My style of play is I like to play without taking bonuses therefore if I lose i can go to chat and claim a bonus for the deposit I have made. Other players like to take bonuses at the time of their deposit and try to beat the large playthru amount. I prefer the other way depositing and if I am not lucky I request a freechip for my last deposit.

I won over $1000 playing late at night and requested a withdrawal. I was working at home and playing at the same time (bad thing to do) and withdrew all of my over $1000.

In fairness I am including the following chat. For the players that take a match bonus or any bonus for that matter on every deposit they are not allowed to go to chat and ask for a freechip after they have played and lost. For players like me and there are many at Club World we like to deposit and play our own money.

My take is this I could have cancelled a withdrawal and claimed a bonus on that amount and played with it. I of course would not be entitled to go to chat and ask for a freechip. But I did not do that, I feel like #1 It should be writing that cancelled withdrawals ARE NOT CONSIDERED DEPOSITS. And Alex could not provide me with this.

Chat Transcript
info: Please wait for a site operator to respond.
info: You are now chatting with 'Alex'
Alex: Hello, how may I help you today?
me: well and you
Alex: i am well thank you
Alex: I have checked your account, and unfortunately the system will not allow me to add a no deposit bonus at present
Alex: i am sorry you did receive a bonus for last deposit
me: why is that when I made over $1000 in deps
me: that is not right
Alex: i have checked and you received over 100% in bonuses last month and so far this month you are already almost at 100% i am sorry but there are no free chips at this time
Alex: I can offer you a 75% match for your next deposit, 20x play through, slots, keno, and scratch cards only, no max cash out.
me: Alex you know I do not play with bonuses
me: and the reversals for over $1000 were considered as deposits
Alex: i am sorry but withdrawals that have been canceled are not considered deposits
me: do you have that in writing i would like to see that
Alex: i am sorry i have checked and double checked for you and we cannot offer you a free chip at the moment
me: I would like to see where you have in writing where cancelled w/ds do not count as deps
Alex: bonuses are given in relation to deposits made and bonuses already received again i am sorry but there is nothing we can add at this time
Alex: you can request promotions department to review this for you
Alex: promotions@clubworldcasinos.com
info: Your chat transcript will be sent toXXXXXXXXXX at the end of your chat.

I also play weekly at Club World and the other casinos in the group.
 
I think the CSR explained it very clearly.

You have had all your deposits matched 100% last month and almost this month. I doubt many casinos would offer you a chip based on that status.

You have been around long enough to know that just about all casinos do not recognize reversals as deposits. I'm not arguing the right or wrong, just that it is common knowledge.

IMO it is not a basis for complaint and you are being unreasonable.
 
I do not agree and would like to see in writing where Club World does not considered cancelled withdrawals as deposits. My style of play is I like to play without taking bonuses therefore if I lose i can go to chat and claim a bonus for the deposit I have made. Other players like to take bonuses at the time of their deposit and try to beat the large playthru amount. I prefer the other way depositing and if I am not lucky I request a freechip for my last deposit.

I won over $1000 playing late at night and requested a withdrawal. I was working at home and playing at the same time (bad thing to do) and withdrew all of my over $1000.

In fairness I am including the following chat. For the players that take a match bonus or any bonus for that matter on every deposit they are not allowed to go to chat and ask for a freechip after they have played and lost. For players like me and there are many at Club World we like to deposit and play our own money.

My take is this I could have cancelled a withdrawal and claimed a bonus on that amount and played with it. I of course would not be entitled to go to chat and ask for a freechip. But I did not do that, I feel like #1 It should be writing that cancelled withdrawals ARE NOT CONSIDERED DEPOSITS. And Alex could not provide me with this.

Chat Transcript
info: Please wait for a site operator to respond.
info: You are now chatting with 'Alex'
Alex: Hello, how may I help you today?
me: well and you
Alex: i am well thank you
Alex: I have checked your account, and unfortunately the system will not allow me to add a no deposit bonus at present
Alex: i am sorry you did receive a bonus for last deposit
me: why is that when I made over $1000 in deps
me: that is not right
Alex: i have checked and you received over 100% in bonuses last monthSolely for the past month you werre playing with bonuses at a 100% level and so far this month you are already almost at 100% i am sorry but there are no free chips at this time
Alex: I can offer you a 75% match for your next deposit, 20x play through, slots, keno, and scratch cards only, no max cash out.
me: Alex you know I do not play with bonuses
me: and the reversals for over $1000 were considered as deposits
Alex: i am sorry but withdrawals that have been canceled are not considered deposits
me: do you have that in writing i would like to see that
Alex: i am sorry i have checked and double checked for you and we cannot offer you a free chip at the moment
me: I would like to see where you have in writing where cancelled w/ds do not count as deps
Alex: bonuses are given in relation to deposits made and bonuses already received again i am sorry but there is nothing we can add at this time
Alex: you can request promotions department to review this for you
Alex: promotions@clubworldcasinos.com
info: Your chat transcript will be sent toXXXXXXXXXX at the end of your chat.

I also play weekly at Club World and the other casinos in the group.

Solely for the past month you were bonused up to 100% of your deposits if the chat operator is correct. I fail to see why the ts and cs should mention that reversals should/should not count as deposits. You are making an assumption that they should only.

It was mentioned you were looking for a ND bonus and my understanding is they have a formula to calculate whether you should be given one. Normally this would be a multitude of losing deposits but your argument that they should show you where in the terms does it show that reversals are not equivalent to deposits is a bit harsh IMO.
 
It is the exact same as taking a bonus

What about players who take a bonus with every deposit, it is the exact same thing. In life "well it's common knowledge" does not fly. It should be in writing.

Also the freechips have a playthru nothing FREE about them, just as the bonuses do if you take one when you deposit and choose to play that style.
 
Casinos are not obligated to give us anything, this is gambling and we know what we are in for.

I don't quite get your reasoning? You deposit without a bonus and if you lose, you then ask for a bonus which most likely has more wagering, a max cash out and is less generous than the deposit bonus in the first place. So why not just take the deposit bonus, it would be more viable.

They have obviously rejected you this time because you have received the same amount of $$ in bonus money as you have deposited. That's how I understood it anyway.

The only casino I know of who classes a "reversal" as a deposit is 3Dice, which you can also claim any bonuses on that are available in your cashier. Rival used to but don't think they do anymore, I do not play at any.

Everyone likes a free chip or some comps (I ask, probably to much sometimes :p), but we are not entitled to them period. If its a "sorry matthew I can not add anything today" to bad for me. My knickers stay on and don't get knotted :cool:.
 
What about players who take a bonus with every deposit, it is the exact same thing. In life "well it's common knowledge" does not fly. It should be in writing.

Also the freechips have a playthru nothing FREE about them, just as the bonuses do if you take one when you deposit and choose to play that style.


It's not the same.

Your way, your deposit has no wagering attached. If you win, you cashout as much as you want whenever you want. If you lose, you go to chat and they give you a chip IF you are ELIGIBLE. Also, your free chip has much lower WR.

It seems clear that the chips you get are ad hoc and not part of any set promotion or "deal", so they could refuse to give you a chip for any reason.....at least this one is valid. As you can see, it isn't just me who thinks you're being unreasonable, and I doubt many others would support your POV. Matt said it well I.e. bonuses are not an entitlement.


FYI

3. CWCUSD reserves the right to refuse or rescind bonus credits and offerings, or prevent future access to CWCUSD for any reason at its sole discretion.
 
I've never heard of someone freely admit they refuse deposit bonuses and then ask for a free chip everytime they lose. I'm surprised a casino even puts up with that.

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Honestly did not know

I don't win often, so I did not know this, but I am on an upswing and have been winning recently. I did not know about reversals not being considered like a deposit.

Since this happened, I have checked other RTG casinos and they most certainly state that Reversals on a withdrawal are not considered deposits, it should be in writing, period.

If you are not in the good ole US of A. You do not know the extra fees charged to us here in America just to play to begin with, International transaction fees on top of our deposits and very limited withdrawal options.

So yes I do expect a freechip if i do not take a bonus, nothing special there, other casinos do the same thing for their customers. Slotocash the $15 freechip movie and song game, if you have not taken a bonus with your deposit you are entitled to that. Inetbet gives you a monthly Managers bonus, use to get those from Club World but don't anymore.

And you are incorrect, If I deposit lets say $30 the freechip is always less, it is NOT a 100% match to my deposits. Like there are if you claim a 100% match bonus to your deposit and play with that.
 
I don't win often, so I did not know this, but I am on an upswing and have been winning recently. I did not know about reversals not being considered like a deposit.

Since this happened, I have checked other RTG casinos and they most certainly state that Reversals on a withdrawal are not considered deposits, it should be in writing, period.

If you are not in the good ole US of A. You do not know the extra fees charged to us here in America just to play to begin with, International transaction fees on top of our deposits and very limited withdrawal options.

So yes I do expect a freechip if i do not take a bonus, nothing special there, other casinos do the same thing for their customers. Slotocash the $15 freechip movie and song game, if you have not taken a bonus with your deposit you are entitled to that. Inetbet gives you a monthly Managers bonus, use to get those from Club World but don't anymore.

And you are incorrect, If I deposit lets say $30 the freechip is always less, it is NOT a 100% match to my deposits. Like there are if you claim a 100% match bonus to your deposit and play with that.

Nobody here said anything about you getting 100% bonuses.....CWC said your bonuses were running at almost 100% of your deposits. It may be that you received other free chips not asked for, as CWC often do, that aren't related to your deposits.

The casino looks at total deposits vs total bonuses issued overall....they don't only count deposit related bonuses and ignore the rest. Ask for a run down of last month and this month and post it here, and ask the members if the casino is being unreasonable. At least if you did that, it wouldn't look.like you're just pissed about not getting a freebie and making stuff up as you go along attempting to legitimize it.
 
Again you make NO SENSE

I've never heard of someone freely admit they refuse deposit bonuses and then ask for a free chip everytime they lose. I'm surprised a casino even puts up with that.

Do you want fries with that?
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Ok, my burger is done. Can I have some free fries now?

There are many, many players who play as I do. As a matter of fact I read on the forum here about players at Club World who did not take a bonus with there deposit and requested and got a freechip after every deposit. Now your logic makes NO SENSE, I don't know how the casino puts up with that, seriously???? Puts up with what? It is the exact same as you taking a match bonus with your deposit, why should I or any player not have the same right? I just do it after playing with my own money, there is no difference. The casino is not giving me anything different than someone taking a bonus at the time of their deposit. The $15 freechip has a playthru of $150 and a max cashout of $150. So again skiny where is your logic?
 
And you are incorrect, If I deposit lets say $30 the freechip is always less, it is NOT a 100% match to my deposits. Like there are if you claim a 100% match bonus to your deposit and play with that.

Then how did you get to 100% last month like the rep said?
 
I think what he meant was that after every deposit I make with them weekly many deposits not just one that I have requested a freechip after my play.

Reality check Slotocash gives a cashback after every deposit if you go to chat and request it if you have not taken a bonus with your deposit.

It says right on their site So you don't want to take a bonus with your deposit, no problem if you lose your deposit just come to chat and receive a cashback freechip, and by the way their is NO PLAYTHRU on those.
 
There are many, many players who play as I do. As a matter of fact I read on the forum here about players at Club World who did not take a bonus with there deposit and requested and got a freechip after every deposit.

I didn't say it didn't happen. I said I'm surprised they put up with it.

Now your logic makes NO SENSE,

The fact that you fail to understand something doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't make sense.

I don't know how the casino puts up with that, seriously???? Puts up with what? It is the exact same as you taking a match bonus with your deposit,why should I or any player not have the same right? I just do it after playing with my own money, there is no difference. The casino is not giving me anything different than someone taking a bonus at the time of their deposit. The $15 freechip has a playthru of $150 and a max cashout of $150

If it was exactly the same you wouldn't be making your deposits and then taking the bonus after you've lost them. If you take a bonus at the time of deposit you have a WR on the deposit and the bonus. If you take a free chip after you lose your deposit your deposit is free of any WR and you only have to meet the WR on the bonus. Basically, you're having your cake and eating it too. So yes, I'm serious. I'm surprised the casino puts up with that.

. So again skiny where is your logic?

In every keystroke whether you see it or not.
 
It is smart play

It is a smart way to play, now there, is the logic, you are right there is no playthru on deposit and bonus on the freechip you get, obviously because you have not taken a bonus with your deposit to play, just the playthru on the freechip, itself, so $15 freechip playthru $150.

In addition, you get Managers bonuses monthly from iNetbet if you play without taking a bonus with your deposit. There are many affiliates sites that are members here they do monthly contests and you are not allowed to participate if you have played with a deposit and taken a bonus. They all say Deposits must be bonus free to enter the contests.

They put up with me depositing weekly two and three deposits a night, and depositing monthly over $600 into their casinos. They put up with American players being charged up to $7 in fees for each deposit that non americans are not charged to play at their same casino, in International fees, they also put up with american players waiting longer for their withdrawals than non american players and also having fewer options for withdrawing.

Club World did not INVENT this freechip for little ole me, this has been afforded to many many players there, who play without taking a bonus.

I don't know how Slotocash puts up with, giving cashback after every deposit if you do not take a bonus, then giving you a freechip with no playthru?

I don't know how iNetbet gives you a monthly Managers bonus, something Club World used to do, yeah you are right do not know why iNetbet puts up with doing that either.

Don't know why Jackpot capital sends $50 and $100 freechips to their customers who have not deposited in years, yes I will admit it.

The day my style of play is compromised is the day I will stop playing at their casinos. The bottom line is put any term in writing, just like ALL the other Casinos have done in the RTG group.

If a cancelled withdrawal does not count as a deposit SAY SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just like any other term period. Those of us who do not win as often would not know this.
 
It is a smart way to play, now there, is the logic, you are right there is no playthru on deposit and bonus on the freechip you get, obviously because you have not taken a bonus with your deposit to play, just the playthru on the freechip, itself, so $15 freechip playthru $150.

Then it is obviously not "exactly the same" as you say it is.

In addition, you get Managers bonuses monthly from iNetbet if you play without taking a bonus with your deposit. There are many affiliates sites that are members here they do monthly contests and you are not allowed to participate if you have played with a deposit and taken a bonus. They all say Deposits must be bonus free to enter the contests.

They put up with me depositing weekly two and three deposits a night, and depositing monthly over $600 into their casinos. They put up with American players being charged up to $7 in fees for each deposit that non americans are not charged to play at their same casino, in International fees, they also put up with american players waiting longer for their withdrawals than non american players and also having fewer options for withdrawing.

The problems American players face is not the fault of the casino. Online casinos have an entire planet they can accept withdrawals from. American players choose to deposit knowing there can be delays in withdrawal times and additional fees to deposit. It is not for the casino to "put up with you depositing" anything. You deposit knowing the situation and the problems American players face of your own free will.

Club World did not INVENT this freechip for little ole me, this has been afforded to many many players there, who play without taking a bonus.

I don't know how Slotocash puts up with, giving cashback after every deposit if you do not take a bonus, then giving you a freechip with no playthru?

I don't know how iNetbet gives you a monthly Managers bonus, something Club World used to do, yeah you are right do not know why iNetbet puts up with doing that either.

Don't know why Jackpot capital sends $50 and $100 freechips to their customers who have not deposited in years, yes I will admit it.

I haven't played with any RTG casino in quite some time but in the days when I did there were no guaranteed free chips everytime I lost my deposit. If these casinos are tossing around free chips like they have no cash value I have to wonder how the casinos can afford it. Have the odds of winning with these games become so dreadful that there's no risk in handing everyone who has made a deposit free money to keep trying? I guess this brings back the old debate about whether or not the general public's hunger for bigger and more frequent bonuses has hampered the casino's ability to offer a fair game. For casinos to constantly give money to players who have lost their deposits either the bonus would have to have impossible requirements to fullfil or the games themselves would have to be nearly impossible to win with.

The day my style of play is compromised is the day I will stop playing at their casinos. The bottom line is put any term in writing, just like ALL the other Casinos have done in the RTG group.

So if you can't have a free chip after every deposit you've lost you will no longer make deposits? My style of play isn't to lose what I've deposited and then go ask for more but to each their own. Personally I think our odds were much better when we mostly just played with the money we came with.

If a cancelled withdrawal does not count as a deposit SAY SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just like any other term period. Those of us who do not win as often would not know this.

Those of us who do not win as often would have been happy to make the withdrawal in the first place and not be back complaining about not getting a free chip.
 
Have you ever been to a landbased casino?

You say: So if you can't have a free chip after every deposit you've lost you will no longer make deposits? My style of play isn't to lose what I've deposited and then go ask for more but to each their own. Personally I think our odds were much better when we mostly just played with the money we came with.

Welcome to the new World, we now have microwaves, and cell phones and fast passes on the freeway, oh, almost forgot and yes you get something every time you play at casinos, either online or landbased.


Ever been to a landbased casino? Well have you ever signed up for their players cards? Have you put it into each slot machine you are playing? Why would you do that, what does the card give you by doing that?

It gives you freechips, it gives you hotel stays and food and now here in California it gives you free gas. It's called business, and the cost of doing that. It's called retaining your customer base and continued play.

Why in the world should online play be any different?

Also had I known that I would not get a freechip after every cancelled w/d and redeposit that I made, which I am accustomed too and many other players at land based and online casinos as well. I would have NEVER done it, and ..............wait for it.............IT IS NOT IN WRITING!!!!!! and....It was not furnished to me by the rep when asked.
 
Keep the FOUL language to yourself Nifty

Nifty,

Funny how there was a time when I was your friend and defending you. Keep the foul language to yourself. I am shitty because i deposit at Club weekly and 3 to 4 deposits and have like many thousand of players took them up on their freechip offers. Get a life read all over the internet this is one of the perks to play at Club World. Nothing new her boys, get out once in a while. You might discover new things.

For skiny who admits he has NOT played RTG in a LONG while and you both are not in the US. So you both argue just to argue and it is pointless.

Funny thing is I am sure you both have casinos near by and are players club members and used their cards to get freechips,hotels etc.

Sometimes Nifty you have valid points, but this time you lost me at shitty. This should not be a PERSONAL ATTACK why do you care where i play and how I deposit. My post was IT IS NOT WRITTEN INTHEIR TERMS when other casinos have it RTG on their sites. Why does Club World get a pass. Most RTG casinos have a freechip, comp points and contests.

Keep your foul language to yourself Nifty believe me I have read for many years posts against you and have never in 12 yrs here read anyone using foul language against you.
 
It is a smart way to play, now there, is the logic, you are right there is no playthru on deposit and bonus on the freechip you get, obviously because you have not taken a bonus with your deposit to play, just the playthru on the freechip, itself, so $15 freechip playthru $150.

In addition, you get Managers bonuses monthly from iNetbet if you play without taking a bonus with your deposit. There are many affiliates sites that are members here they do monthly contests and you are not allowed to participate if you have played with a deposit and taken a bonus. They all say Deposits must be bonus free to enter the contests.

They put up with me depositing weekly two and three deposits a night, and depositing monthly over $600 into their casinos. They put up with American players being charged up to $7 in fees for each deposit that non americans are not charged to play at their same casino, in International fees, they also put up with american players waiting longer for their withdrawals than non american players and also having fewer options for withdrawing.

Club World did not INVENT this freechip for little ole me, this has been afforded to many many players there, who play without taking a bonus.

I don't know how Slotocash puts up with, giving cashback after every deposit if you do not take a bonus, then giving you a freechip with no playthru?

I don't know how iNetbet gives you a monthly Managers bonus, something Club World used to do, yeah you are right do not know why iNetbet puts up with doing that either.

Don't know why Jackpot capital sends $50 and $100 freechips to their customers who have not deposited in years, yes I will admit it.

The day my style of play is compromised is the day I will stop playing at their casinos. The bottom line is put any term in writing, just like ALL the other Casinos have done in the RTG group.

If a cancelled withdrawal does not count as a deposit SAY SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just like any other term period. Those of us who do not win as often would not know this.

It is, but now it seems CWC have cottoned on and put a stop to it. If your bonus to deposit ratio is 100% you have worked this pretty well. You gain a significant edge by being able to play your bonuses separately from your deposits, rather than place each deposit at the full risk of meeting a WR.

It seems that a reversed withdrawal of $1000 is not treated the same as a deposit of $1000 when it comes to granting free chips. I agree it doesn't make much sense, as you could just wait for the $1000 to hit your bank, and then redeposit, whereupon this same $1000 would count as a fresh deposit. It costs the casini money to insist on it working this way, and outside of the US, it costs the player nothing to work this way because they can use an eWallet.

It is almost universal in the industry to not count reversed withdrawals as deposits.

Your (and the other players doing it) way of using bonuses is not part of their official program, which is why you have to go through chat each time. Maybe CWC have noticed that this group of players as a whole has "got one over" CWC, so some of the criteria have been tightened up, so for the first time they have said "no" to you.

Unfortunately, if you play "smart", you have to be prepared to adapt to changes in policy as casinos cotton on to the better methods and shut them down, or at least restrict their scope.

Long term members may remember "Frozen Assets" on the RTG platform. This was VERY "smart play" indeed, but eventually got shut down by removing this entire class of slot from the offerings.
 
Vinyl much respect

I don't think so Vinyl with all due respect this Freechip for the asking I am sure has a criteria, which my weekly player and 4 deposits nightly and a gross of $600 to $800 monthly to their group of casinos, and NEVER taking a bonus probably afforded me these freechips. But had i made another deposit and not reversed my w/d many many times it was over a grand here so it was multiple cancellations.

I would not have done it had I known this rule that was not in writing. So I did get a freechip tonight but only for my deposit from the night before which I won the $1050.00.

Again I sound like a broken record and really feel like this is NEWS and a new thing. This IS NOT NEW, getting a freechip at Club, Slotocash offers a cashback ON ALL DEPOSITS if you did not take a bonus and their freechip has NO PLAYTHRU.

I know land based casinos have their players cards, in this economy and in this climate of doing international business, you have to retain your customer base and especially your USA players.

I was refused a freechip because I had recd one for my last dep. Which all freechips have wagering requirements. Again there are many reasons to play without taking a deposit and the affliates here who run their forums and do the weekly and monthly RTG contests example Spring is here pick a flower between 1 and 12 and behind one of them is $50. Club World has hidden 4 $50 chips behind flowers see if you can pick the right one.

Inetbet does the contests most RTG's do them. From the 100's of players who participate in them weekly they ALL have to be BONUS FREE deposits in order to play. So I know these members are getting the freechips after every deposit as I am and they are playing Bonus Free.

If Club were to stop this offer, that THEY started not me they would lose alot of customers. We would just play at Jackpot, iNebet and now especially Slotocash where you get the same freechip after every deposit and no playthru playing the same games.

I am addicted to Club Worlds slot game club world casino and that is the ONLY reason I still play at LuckyRed and Club World. The freechips ARE NOT a FACTOR at all I get the same thing at SlotoCash.

Jackpot capital is the one casino I feel badly about i have not deposited in years and get their snail mail of NO Deposit freechips for $50 and $100 almost every other month even 2 last month.
 
Nifty,

Funny how there was a time when I was your friend and defending you. Keep the foul language to yourself. I am shitty because i deposit at Club weekly and 3 to 4 deposits and have like many thousand of players took them up on their freechip offers. Get a life read all over the internet this is one of the perks to play at Club World. Nothing new her boys, get out once in a while. You might discover new things.

For skiny who admits he has NOT played RTG in a LONG while and you both are not in the US. So you both argue just to argue and it is pointless.

Funny thing is I am sure you both have casinos near by and are players club members and used their cards to get freechips,hotels etc.

Sometimes Nifty you have valid points, but this time you lost me at shitty. This should not be a PERSONAL ATTACK why do you care where i play and how I deposit. My post was IT IS NOT WRITTEN INTHEIR TERMS when other casinos have it RTG on their sites. Why does Club World get a pass. Most RTG casinos have a freechip, comp points and contests.

Keep your foul language to yourself Nifty believe me I have read for many years posts against you and have never in 12 yrs here read anyone using foul language against you.

What foul language? "Shitty" means annoyed and/or upset. It's a description of a person's mood, and is certainly more polite than telling someone to "get a life".

As far as nobody ever swearing at me....LMAO. Now that is funny.

Nobody in this thread made any personal insults except YOU.

Oh, and can you show me where in their terms it says that you get a free chip after every losing deposit? If its not in the terms, it is unacceptable according to you, so you best refund all your free chips to the casino. You can't have it both ways.

Also, what is this inclination lately for some US members to tell non-US members that they shouldn't comment? I think some are using it as an out when others disagree with their opinions. Sad really.
 
UH, yes you can apparently

Apparently you can have it both ways, because Slotocash offers the same thing. Hello, have you guys played at RTG's lately?

Vinyl made a very good point you players (not in the US) have almost instant w/d options to your e-wallets so to you of course you re-deposit instantly.

In the US we don't have that option. Would players stop playing if they take these incentives of course they would. It is like shopping in a grocery store that gives you a free can of soup for every gallon of milk you buy. When their competitor market across the street gives you no incentive. Why would you shop there.

All you have to do is google RTG casinos that show terms Reversed w/d's are not considered deposits many RTG have them as a term. If they can WRITE IT CLUB WORLD can also.

No one said you could not get the same thing too Nifty, deposit without a bonus and ask them. and btw shitty is still a cuss word at least over here it is.
 
Apparently you can have it both ways, because Slotocash offers the same thing. Hello, have you guys played at RTG's lately?

Vinyl made a very good point you players (not in the US) have almost instant w/d options to your e-wallets so to you of course you re-deposit instantly.

In the US we don't have that option. Would players stop playing if they take these incentives of course they would. It is like shopping in a grocery store that gives you a free can of soup for every gallon of milk you buy. When their competitor market across the street gives you no incentive. Why would you shop there.

All you have to do is google RTG casinos that show terms Reversed w/d's are not considered deposits many RTG have them as a term. If they can WRITE IT CLUB WORLD can also.

No one said you could not get the same thing too Nifty, deposit without a bonus and ask them. and btw shitty is still a cuss word at least over here it is.

Odd place you live....shitty is a cuss word but telling someone to get a life is OK.

Anyway, we are going around in circles so I'm bowing out.
 
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@Nifty: Relax dude, you know people are prone to take your stuff the wrong way: roll with it. No need to get your back up and start biting back. Think Zen thoughts, contemplate gentle ripples on the surface of time. Be cool.

@lettingyouknow: Your "Report Post" was the right thing to do. Not so much with draging your beef(s) with Nifty out into the forums. Once you've Reported you've done what needs to be done. Move on and let us do our thing.

Oy vey guys! Nobody appreciates this Bickersville stuff. I really need to be saying this?
 
You keep saying you make regular deposits without taking bonuses and then say you took a free chip after every deposit. That is taking a bonus... after every deposit. You just found a way around the WR on your deposit while still receiving the bonus. You might call it smart play, some casinos might call it annoying.

By the way, I live in Ottawa. I can drive to a land based casino in 15 minutes. I can drive to another one in Quebec in 20 minutes. I was at a land based casino in Toronto on Friday. When I got bored and left I was still 50 bucks ahead too. I could have stuck one of those cards in the machine but I couldn't be bothered. I don't play enough to bother carrying one around. That's my choice not to use the card. What I didn't do was go find the manager and tell him I didn't use a card so I should get some free money to play with before I left.

I would have felt a bit silly.
 

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