Chopley's grand Netent adventure at Mr Green

[Balthazar]

Oh for god's sake.... Missed this bit....

Thanks for the heads-up Blathaon but unfortunately I'm already deposited and underway..... Grrrr!

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Only solution that I can think of is to try to hit something big on the older slots then start your experiment if/when you reach the bonus! Reel Rush right now doesn't make much sense!

 

[dunover]

Oh for god's sake.... Missed this bit....

Thanks for the heads-up Blathaon but unfortunately I'm already deposited and underway..... Grrrr!

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Sh*t Chopley - I read Blathaons warning and was expecting a subsequent post of you killing the idea, and couldn't believe you'd proceeded. You missing it explains it though. Just hope you can hit and run with a good hit on your cash balance and damn the bonus.

Like I said, All British is your best bet for this, I can vouch they paid me out in 90 minutes.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Well there goes the £50 of real cash, which Reel Rush made comically quick work of.

Now I need to wager £3500 from the less than £100 that remains in my account. LOLZ.

Dead or Alive it is then on 27p spins, may as well go for death or glory.

Needless to say I shall not be proceeding with Stage 2 of this experiment, and will instead leave the £150 in my Neteller account for another day.

 

[dunover]

What, you bust the cash 50 out in 202 spins@50p???
If so that is f*cking shocking <52% short-term RTP.

 

[dusky]

I don't understand what you are trying to prove with this as it is just such a small sample size to determine anything?

From what I've read you have (quite rightly) already determined the payout of NetEnts and how these new sucker slots work so I don't see why to would waste your money?

 

[dunover]

I don't understand what you are trying to prove with this as it is just such a small sample size to determine anything?

From what I've read you have (quite rightly) already determined the payout of NetEnts and how these new sucker slots work so I don't see why to would waste your money?

I think he feels like I do and some others. We are faced with facts we simply don't want to believe, and find improbable. Like slapping yourself round the face, then facing the enemy and taking him on because he can't surely beat you every time....

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

I made 35xB and 40xB WRs at Redbet on the older Netent slots on several occasions, whilst never raising my bets above 50p, so it's definitely possible.

I wasn't going to be overly scientific about it, just give a selection of Elements and newer slots a decent number of spins and play it by ear - it most certainly won't 'prove' anything, the bankroll isn't big enough and the sample size will be far too small, it'll just be interesting to see what the trajectory of the session is.

At the moment though I've very much fallen at the first hurdle, since Mr Green want a mobile number out of me which they're not going to get!

You have never played at CWC then I think its them who wont let you withdraw if phone number is not correct and they can't contact you

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

Only solution that I can think of is to try to hit something big on the older slots then start your experiment if/when you reach the bonus! Reel Rush right now doesn't make much sense!

I though the REP already stated that wager does count before bonus?

 

[Balthazar]

No DoA update so I guess that it didn't go well....

 

[The Viking]

No DoA update so I guess that it didn't go well....

Or he hit the motherload and is spreading joy across the town

 

[ChopleyIOM]

No DoA update so I guess that it didn't go well....

Nearly there.... Losing on this slot is like trying to kill yourself by inserting a length of narrow metal pipe so far up your own arse that you eventually rupture a major organ.

Slow and painful, but you'll get there in the end.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Well that's that done with then, DoA finished off the remaining £100 balance on 27p spins and as you can see I completed a thoroughly majestic 12% of the WR. (And they spelt 'achieved' wrong.) The last £15.odd went without it nudging over 12% completed.



(WHY IS THERE NO QUICK SPIN OPTION ON THIS SLOT? IT'S LIKE WITNESSING YOUR OWN DEATH IN DREADFUL TAUNTING SLOW-MOTION, YOUR GLAZED AND TERRIFIED EYES PINNED OPEN TO WITNESS THE TORPOR-INDUCING CARNAGE, ONE SPIN AT A TIME, WITH SHITTY COWBOY NOISES TAUNTING YOU EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. PLEASE LORD TAKE ME NOW.)

It did cough a reasonable number of bonus rounds but as usual none of them paid anything of much interest. (In all fairness I did manage five extra spins for the five wilds on one bonus round, but was as far away from five wilds on an actual winline as you could possibly imagine and it didn't drop any further wilds in either, paid under 200x stake and that was my best win by a country mile.)

The most awful thing about this slot is how dreadfully slow it plays, which I suppose does a fairly good job of disguising its cash-munching tendencies, but let's not confuse 'it just takes ages to do anything' with 'decent play time'. (As can be seen by how much of the WR I met. Yeah I was playing for a long time but then again I was genuinely wishing for a humane bust out for most of it, as the reels dragged themselves around for another shitty paying bonus round.)

I'm now thinking that losing £50 out of a £200 Neteller deposit isn't such bad going when it comes to taking on Netent slots, (even though I only actually deposited £50 of it into a casino), so I'm going to go over to the ATM tomorrow morning, withdraw £140 out of my Neteller account, and just set fire to the £3.50 fee I paid to deposit that £200 in the first place, and the £3 it'll cost to withdraw the £140 out. (I still have £150 in my Neteller account but can only get £140 of it out because of the £3 fee to withdraw.)

That's the negativity of my mood at the moment, (I call it the 'Netent effect'), I'd rather just absorb £6.50 in fees and get £140 of a £200 deposit into my Neteller account back out, than deposit what's still in there to another casino and continue to play.

I'll leave you with this screenshot depicting the end of a typical DoA bonus round, JUST COUNT ALL THOSE WILDS, COUNT THEM!

I'm counting one.

Let me check again....

Yeah, one.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to play Borderlands 2 and absolutely kill the fuck out of everything.

 

[Mouche12]

About NetEnt Slots

I understand some of the bad comments on NetEnt slots' RTP - the newest games can indeed eat your balance in no time, but I should also mention that most of my surprising wins have been at TwinSpin (€ 1.200 at NordicBet - € 2.50 bet) and Egyptian Heroes (€ 3.900 at € 4.00 bet) and Zombies (€ 1.500 (€ 4.00 bet) an I had some decent hits on Reel Steel, Starburst and Thiefs.

I recall that there have also been some impressive winning posts @Klaver.

My experience with MG of late (32Red) is nothing but losses. So, in my case it's just the other way around really...

 

[bigjohn]

Well that's that done with then, DoA finished off the remaining £100 balance on 27p spins and as you can see I completed a thoroughly majestic 12% of the WR. (And they spelt 'achieved' wrong.) The last £15.odd went without it nudging over 12% completed.


(WHY IS THERE NO QUICK SPIN OPTION ON THIS SLOT? IT'S LIKE WITNESSING YOUR OWN DEATH IN DREADFUL TAUNTING SLOW-MOTION, YOUR GLAZED AND TERRIFIED EYES PINNED OPEN TO WITNESS THE TORPOR-INDUCING CARNAGE, ONE SPIN AT A TIME, WITH SHITTY COWBOY NOISES TAUNTING YOU EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. PLEASE LORD TAKE ME NOW.)

It did cough a reasonable number of bonus rounds but as usual none of them paid anything of much interest. (In all fairness I did manage five extra spins for the five wilds on one bonus round, but was as far away from five wilds on an actual winline as you could possibly imagine and it didn't drop any further wilds in either, paid under 200x stake and that was my best win by a country mile.)

The most awful thing about this slot is how dreadfully slow it plays, which I suppose does a fairly good job of disguising its cash-munching tendencies, but let's not confuse 'it just takes ages to do anything' with 'decent play time'. (As can be seen by how much of the WR I met. Yeah I was playing for a long time but then again I was genuinely wishing for a humane bust out for most of it, as the reels dragged themselves around for another shitty paying bonus round.)

I'm now thinking that losing £50 out of a £200 Neteller deposit isn't such bad going when it comes to taking on Netent slots, (even though I only actually deposited £50 of it into a casino), so I'm going to go over to the ATM tomorrow morning, withdraw £140 out of my Neteller account, and just set fire to the £3.50 fee I paid to deposit that £200 in the first place, and the £3 it'll cost to withdraw the £140 out. (I still have £150 in my Neteller account but can only get £140 of it out because of the £3 fee to withdraw.)

That's the negativity of my mood at the moment, (I call it the 'Netent effect'), I'd rather just absorb £6.50 in fees and get £140 of a £200 deposit into my Neteller account back out, than deposit what's still in there to another casino and continue to play.

I'll leave you with this screenshot depicting the end of a typical DoA bonus round, JUST COUNT ALL THOSE WILDS, COUNT THEM!

I'm counting one.

Let me check again....

Yeah, one.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to play Borderlands 2 and absolutely kill the fuck out of everything.

Well, at least you had fun!

 

[dusky]

I don't want to sound awkward when repeating but isn't this natural of DoA?

I've span maybe 3/4000 spins on it this week, lost a lot and had one 5 wild repeater with a poor payout because of how they were stacked and not much else returned. I was at deposit and bonus level about 2/3s of the way into one WR but then went South rapidly.

Because of the massive jackpot/5 wilds on a line chance the RTP has to include these rare wins into it returns.

I agree wholeheartedly about the likes of Starburst and Twin Spin but I don't think playing out on a game like DoA does anything really? You're free to spend how you want but I don't think you can point to their something untoward happening by a slot playing as it's known to?

 

[Blathaon]

I don't want to sound awkward when repeating but isn't this natural of DoA?

I've span maybe 3/4000 spins on it this week, lost a lot and had one 5 wild repeater with a poor payout because of how they were stacked and not much else returned. I was at deposit and bonus level about 2/3s of the way into one WR but then went South rapidly.

Because of the massive jackpot/5 wilds on a line chance the RTP has to include these rare wins into it returns.

I agree wholeheartedly about the likes of Starburst and Twin Spin but I don't think playing out on a game like DoA does anything really? You're free to spend how you want but I don't think you can point to their something untoward happening by a slot playing as it's known to?

It is, i think he just wanted to vent out some frustration in his last post since he took a type of bonus that he didn't intend to .

I'm currently at 4360 real play features on DoA, And 32 of those paid 1000xBet+, so on average once every 136 features.

 

[rshkrn]

Well that's that done with then, DoA finished off the remaining £100 balance on 27p spins and as you can see I completed a thoroughly majestic 12% of the WR. (And they spelt 'achieved' wrong.) The last £15.odd went without it nudging over 12% completed.

I registered onto MrGreen as well to try the netent slots and wanted to have a go at DoA....was amazed at how quick the roll vanishes, decided then to stick with MG and playtech for now.

Looks like you should try netent when there's some extra to burn away....

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I don't want to sound awkward when repeating but isn't this natural of DoA?

I've span maybe 3/4000 spins on it this week, lost a lot and had one 5 wild repeater with a poor payout because of how they were stacked and not much else returned. I was at deposit and bonus level about 2/3s of the way into one WR but then went South rapidly.

Because of the massive jackpot/5 wilds on a line chance the RTP has to include these rare wins into it returns.

I agree wholeheartedly about the likes of Starburst and Twin Spin but I don't think playing out on a game like DoA does anything really? You're free to spend how you want but I don't think you can point to their something untoward happening by a slot playing as it's known to?

As Blathaon has correctly noted I was basically just annoyed with myself because I took a bonus of a design I didn't want to which fundamentally ruined what I was trying to do with my intended experiment. (At BetAt, where they have the same basic bonus design (i.e. you can withdraw at any time whilst on real funds), ALL wagering contributes to the WR, not just when you hit the bonus funds, and I was running on the assumption that LeoVegas worked in the same way. I had a look down the T&Cs but missed the killer clause.)

A 35xB WR is basically a bust when you don't start the wagering until into bonus funds, hence me playing DoA to just try and get it over with quickly (i.e. hit big and give myself a chance to make WR, or just bust out). What I'd forgotten was how horrifically slow to play that slot is so it annoyed me even more.

In the end I resented the waste of my time far more than the £50 I lost.

I feel in a far sunnier mood today but I'm still just going to get the rest of the balance out of my Neteller account rather than play it anywhere else.

 

[AndyB-MrGreen]

I think Andy did put a 40xB WR on one of them because I was tending to beat the 35xB WRs quite consistently

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It was nothing personal, I think we'd either just upped them or else that was total freebie for you test out a sister site?

Thanks for raising this issue by the way, it's obviously a big one for us to get right and this will kick off an important discussion.

Cheers
Andy

 

[AndyB-MrGreen]

Hi!

Thanks again for raising this. One of the reasons I love this site and you lot so much (OK, some of you ) is you highlight things we may miss or forget about. :notworthy

We're going to look into this fully but in the meantime if you do wish to register and really don't want to provide a mobile number you can contact Customer Services and they can send a validation/registration code to you via email.

Cheers Chopley, I'd like to see you take on the bonus so if you do decide to give it another let me know.

All the best!
Andy

 

[SubzeroWins]

was looking forward to your results chopley must admit, I never even knew of that rule. Either they added it recently or i missed it somehow when going through the terms

 

[dunover]

The thing is, he made about 4x in his WR out of 35x. I found this on NetBent myself, about 3-5x WR was all I could achieve. That's why the experiment was suicidal IMO.
As for the misspelling of 'achieved' I think is was actually a misspelling or 'archived' without the 'r'.........

Because your deposit and bonus were certainly archived very fast....

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Andy's said I can validate my account by email, I'm just waiting to hear back from him with my validation code

 

[muziq]

all the best chopley .. i will b also registering at Mr been next week

but am playing all slots

 

[Jory]

Good luck to you Chopley. I busted on 98% from a £100 deposit.

I am still unsure about Netent slots. It's refreshing to play something that isn't microgaming though so i'll probably play again but keeping the bets low.