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Ceast and Desist Order from Bodog

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by zman, Jul 4, 2008.

    Jul 4, 2008
  1. zman

    zman Dormant account

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    Can they legally do this even if im not intending to host a site there? Im just using it to use the domain name to send emails to bodog over a 10k amount.
     
  2. Jul 4, 2008
  3. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

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    You don't mess with people's trademarks.

    Why do you need this domain name? To send emails to them? Doesn't make much sense.

    If you want legal advice, you should hire a lawyer.
     
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  4. Jul 4, 2008
  5. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

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    It's definitely interesting that Bodog, of all people, are getting all in a lather over domain names.

    'Bodogstrife' :D

    But, yeah, it's a bit naughty and in my experience - best to just give it up and avoid the hassle.
     
  6. Jul 4, 2008
  7. catrina m

    catrina m Senior Member PABaccred

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    If I remember correctly bodog had a domain dispute 3 years ago or so that temporarily shut the site down.

    They had to redirect.

    Any one else remember this?
     
  8. Jul 4, 2008
  9. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

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    Heh hee... Yep. Was it not just last year though!? I dunno... I get confused easily these days. That's why I thought this was ironic.
     
  10. Jul 4, 2008
  11. suzecat

    suzecat Dormant account CAG MM webmeister

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    Gee zman, they sound kinda pissed. Do you have lots of cash you want to give a lawyer to fight this? Intellectual Property lawyers ain't cheap! ;)
     
  12. Jul 4, 2008
  13. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

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    So if I get you, you got the domain name and are emailing Bodog from it over a dispute you have with them to emphasise the point?

    I like it :D Certainly made them notice lol. Why not give them the domain and register "full-of-hot-ayre.com" and use that to take up the fight ;) Or just make light of it and tell them that you only registered it and are using it to make a point. They might see the light side. But then again...
     
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  14. Jul 4, 2008
  15. Audioz

    Audioz Banned User

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    It must happened last year, because i only started to play there about 1 1/2 year ago and they had their old webside You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
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  16. Jul 4, 2008
  17. Slotster!

    Slotster! I predict a riot. CAG

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    :lolup:

    bodogs-danglies.com
    CalvinWhine.com
     
  18. Jul 4, 2008
  19. zman

    zman Dormant account

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    hahah.

    Yeah i registered it to make a point. Too bad it took them like a few weeks to figure it out :rolleyes:

    Im giving it up but its funny how they used caps as if im scared of that :cool:
     
  20. Jul 4, 2008
  21. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

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    Slotster's memory serves him well - the Bodog patent dispute with Dr. Scott Lewis's company 1st Technologies LLC occurred last year, spilling over into this.

    A default judgement (Bodog claimed they had not received the summons) resulted in an American court ruling imposing a $48 million default penalty and confiscating all Bodog domains. Hence the advent of "Bodoglife."

    Although it has not been in the headlines recently, the case is ongoing as far as I know and has been very acrimonious (see Casinomeister News for full details, including some heavy blog exchanges)

    It is probably why Alwyn Morris in Kahnawake is now so heavily involved with the Bodog North American brands, and could have spurred Calvin Ayre's official "retirement."
     
  22. Jul 4, 2008
  23. Fleur-De-Lis

    Fleur-De-Lis Senior Member MM

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    Hi zman,
    did they offer to pay for your domain, or at least reimburse any of your expenses? ;)
     
  24. Jul 4, 2008
  25. GrandMaster

    GrandMaster Ueber Meister CAG

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    I am slightly puzzled by this. It sounds like you are using the domain to spam bodog. I hope this is incorrect.

    Where are you based? European law only protects the use of a trademark for a specified range of activities. Bodog is a registered trademark for the promotion of music and videos, for e-commerce and online gambling, so you can manufacture Bodog brand toilet paper perfectly legally if you wish. A trademark certainly does not extend to every domain containing the protect words.

    They can send you cease and desist letters quite legally, it is up to you to decide what you want to do.
     
  26. Jul 4, 2008
  27. quber

    quber Senior Member

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    :lolup:there's the next site You must register/login in order to see the link. put a picture of toilet paper on it with the word bodog printed on it and just put available soon underneath
     
  28. Jul 4, 2008
  29. GaryWatson

    GaryWatson Dormant account

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    Bodog are notorious for doing this. They send them out all the time. I dont think they can do much if you are using the domain name for anything unrelated to their field. However if you have an affiliate account with them, they will close it for violating their terms & if you use the domain to redirect the domain to a poker site they will probably continue with it.

    Best thing to do is give them the domain, not worth the hassle IMO
     
  30. Jul 4, 2008
  31. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Bodog have cited the "stealing" of internet traffic, but there is no site there! If no site exists, no traffic can be stolen.

    They might have a case for cybersquatting though, but they cannot use their muscle to gag protest, which seems to be the case here.

    There are many websites used to protest against various companies, and if it is made clear that it is a protest site, and the information is a true representation of the facts, and not libelous, there is a strong chance BoDog would lose the case.
    If BoDog claim this site, surely it should be handed over to the courts in Nevada who have ruled that ALL BoDog domain names be confiscated. If the court accepts it, then BoDog have to fight the court for it, not the protester.

    This protester could also counter sue for the 10K should BoDog take this further, preferrably in an American court, where BoDog are sure to fail to turn up.

    As for Emailing them, it should be easier to do this through the various free Email services, cheaper than creating a domain, and if BoDog block one, just move to another.

    I assume the reason for needing a domain to Email BoDog is that BoDog have blocked any attempt by this player to communicate through normal channels, and are using their "untouchable" location to bully this player into letting BoDog get away with keeping this 10K without a fair and independent investigation.

    BoDog seem to be turning nastier by the week, and are surely well on the way to rogue city if they keep this up.
     
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  32. Jul 4, 2008
  33. Rusty

    Rusty Banned User - repetitive flaming

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    As usual spot on VWM
     
  34. Jul 5, 2008
  35. lots0

    lots0 Banned User - troll posts - flaming PABnonaccred

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    Any poker room that is partnered up with Alwyn Morris is NOT to be trusted, in my opinion.
     
  36. Jul 5, 2008
  37. USA2112

    USA2112 Dormant account

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    With a bonus offer on each section.. I'm still laughing......:lolup:
     
  38. Jul 5, 2008
  39. happygobrokey

    happygobrokey Dormant account

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    and you have to unravel the whole roll to get to the terms and conditions on the very innermost square. lmao :thumbsup:
     

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