Casinoshare U.S What will the software be?

Well, finished loading the games on CasinoShare US and it certainly loads faster than the worldwide MG's. However, no new games, zip, zero, nada!

I think you'll find it will evolve. There will be a lot of creases to iron out. I think it will just need to alll settle down and then you might see it grow. The stumbling blocks are as follows:

1) Branded game licences will probably exclude the US
2) Payment of progressives could raise a huge red flag and requires careful though.
3) Same for tournaments so they may need to make changes first.


It certainly looks as if this is a licensed copyright deal on the games, but I think the new software provider has missed a credibility opportunity by not identifying itself...and that extends to Kahnawake which has issued a licence and therefore approved the provider.

I imagine it's a lawyer thing, but I also believe it would have been better for both Microgaming and Casinoshare to have made a public announcement over and above the essential comms with players and affiliates - even if it was bland and anodyne it would be evidence of an openess on a commercial deal..

In the absence of a name, I'm probably going to dub it "Microgaming US" on my sites. Gotta call it something and that's nice and descriptive IMO.
 
Email I received

I thought I'd share the email that I just got from Casino Share. See Below.

Dear Bonita,

The future of gaming is here – and it’s all-American!

Exciting changes are underway at CasinoShare and Players Palace Casino, and we’re happy to say that you’re a part of it!

As part of an extensive re-branding strategy to benefit our US players, all your respective CasinoShare and Players Palace accounts will now have a brand new CasinoShare design from Monday, 17 May, 2010, catering specifically for US PLAYERS ONLY.

You’ll be able to continue your game play without a hitch – in an all-new, all-American-style casino that will make you feel right at home with US-focused promotions and prizes!

Receive a 100% Bonus up to $300 Welcome Offer!

In order to receive this Opening Offer, please contact us and tell us which of your existing accounts you would like to carry forward to use at the new CasinoShare.

***Your various account numbers are displayed above, please choose which one to consolidate your accounts into, and then use that account number and password to log into in the future.***

Our Support Agents will help you with this quick update, and then manually credit your bonus. All your existing Bonus Credits will also be carried over to your new account, as you continue to receive the same great level of professionalism, 24-hour service and winnings that you’re accustomed to.

***********

Contact Support and receive a 100% Bonus up to $300 Opening Offer now!

***********

Please note: Taking up this special Welcome Offer will exclude you from other current promotional offers you might receive from CasinoShare.

Important: To prevent future communications ending up your Spam folder, please put the following address: casinoshare@us-promotions.com in your Safe Sender list.

Please contact us per email support@us-emailsupport.com if you have any further questions or queries.

Kind regards,


Robert Sullivan
Casino Manager
 
I would imagine that if they are offering this form of MG to the US only market, that they will eventually have to open it up to new players. Afterall if it is only targeted to US and only former accounts for now, they would be limiting their player base a great deal.
So I just think that when all is said and done, the register new account option will be available for all US players. It only seems logical.
 
Logged on to CasinShare US today and it is in spanish, couldn't change it back to english, so called the casino to ask if there was a problem, they are working on it. But while I had the cs on the phone I did ask if they would be allowing new sign ups and he said yes, in the near future, but couldn't say when. They will also be adding games as time as they progress.
 
This is a complete mess!!!

Microgaming had a policy of NOT allowing operators to run both a Microgaming casino, and one from a different supplier, as sister casinos.

Intertops tried this, and suffered the consequences of MGS terminating their license (or refusing to renew it) for Intertops Green, after they opened Intertops Red on RTG to take on the US market. Royal Joker was saved by passing it to a subsidiary (unknown), and management to Jackpot Factory.

Now, we are expected to believe MGS WILL allow operators to have BOTH a Microgaming casino, AND this "new" option for migrating, and later accepting, US players.

The "new" software seems to be nothing more than an even MORE "crippled" version of the US variant with so many blocked games. HOW is this going to impress players, whose "grandfather rights" status has gone from bad to WORSE, with not only the loss of NEW games, but many of the OLD ones too! Players may leave on account of this further downgrade, and before there is any chance for operators to implement further games.

MGS have now made it IMPOSSIBLE for rogues such as Jackpots Heaven to be spotted by clever players. Jackpots Heaven was busted because it had "the look and feel of MGS", and "with many of the features and games players are used to". Now, if another rogue operator tries to rip off MGS content, players will assume this is simply the OFFICIAL "Microgaming US" variant. Rogue operators will therefore have the freedom to offer their own variants of "Microgaming US", and players will not really know who they are dealing with, because "Microgaming US" itself has only just been launched.

The other risk is that some of the US officials may actually have SEEN the various softwares, and will see that there is no real difference between "normal" MGS and "US" MGS, and make a note that MGS have simply used some covert means to break UIGEA but keep their corporate noses clean. This could adversely affect a later application for a license in a regulated US market.

There is one other thing PLAYERS need to be aware of. SOME games (even fewer for US players), have you save up to trigger a bonus round. With this migration, players will LOSE any such saved icons, as these will NOT be migrated to a new platform, even though their accounts will be.

What about NON US players, we have been told nothing, and what we want is to hear that this will NOT affect us.

When Grand Prive moved, EVERY player was affected, INCLUDING those from outside the US, who were migrated from MGS to a rather unknown software overnight without notice.

Hopefully, casinos that didn't take US players in the first place will stick with MGS, but others that were forced out might be interested, and may decide it is cheaper to have ALL their players on the one platform, thus paying only ONE license fee to ONE software provider.
 
It would appear they all are moving US players. This in today via email:

From Star Partner -From 20 May 2010 all US players at Vegas Partner Lounge casinos will be migrated to a new casino brand that will facilitate play: TheCasinoUS. This new software is very, very similar to our existing Microgaming software, so there will be a smooth transition for players.

Please Note: your affiliate earnings on US play will also be migrated to a new affiliate program: Affiliates.TheCasinoUS.com


From Red Flush - As of Wednesday the 18th of May 2010, Microgaming will be moving the Red Flush US players onto a new software platform. This new platform has moved away from Microgaming and will be licensed from a brand new software provider. The new software will be very similar in look and
feel; stability; gaming collection and features, but there will be some notable changes.

You will come to know this as a new brand called Red Flush.Net: A new interface that has been developed for the US market. We remain the affiliate program for Red Flush.Net so there is no need to register any new accounts. The account data for each player is going to be moved across in full with all tags and information that we currently have in our back office. Player tags and revenue will not change at all.

I think you'll see what the new "casinos" are going to look like if you go
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. No new games or progressives. They have the games listed.
 
It would appear they all are moving US players. This in today via email:



I think you'll see what the new "casinos" are going to look like if you go
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. No new games or progressives. They have the games listed.

Perhaps I overlooked it, but I didn't see Thunderstruck in there....
 
Thanks Vinylweatherman for your post, very informative. I also agree with Nisobar as for the excitement of it. But then I also have apprehension of what ultimately this could/will mean for those of us in the US.
After playing pretty much all evening last night and off and on most of the day, I have been a little dissapointed in the fact that so many games have not migrated over as well and there are a lot of them and they're not blocked, they just aren't there. But they say they will be adding as they go, so maybe that's not a big deal.
But, the thing I do worry about, is if this is just a ploy to gracefully rid MG of an albatrose, which is the US players. Then once we have all been migrated into the new software, have the door closed on us permanently.
Really, until all things have come out in the open, regarding the laws and regs, many of us will not really know what will come of this venture and whether the US will still have an active place in a pastime that should be our right and our decision to enjoy.
 
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Is there a rep from microgaming on this forum?
Just wondering, I never see them jump in and explain anything.

I know there are individual casinos from MGS repped here, just wondered if the big guys ever chimed in.
 
Microgaming press release

ISLE OF MAN - Microgaming (www.microgaming.com), the world’s largest provider of online gaming software, today announces that Betware, the leading gaming solution and services vendor, is now licensed to sell and market Microgaming’s market leading suite of casino games, on top of its existing platform, to state lotteries.

Betware has 14 years experience in providing Internet solutions for lotteries and currently offers an unrivalled turn-key solution, gaming platform and a large portfolio of games. The agreement, granting Betware the ability to supplement its impressive suite of lotto, instants, sports betting, bingo, racing, skill and casual and multi-player games with access to over 85 high quality casino games from Microgaming, represents a truly unique offering for state lotteries to deliver to their player base.

Stefán Hrafnkelsson, Betware CEO, says: “We are very proud and excited to be licensed to sell and market Microgaming’s casino games to growing markets. This agreement significantly expands our product offering, and provides our customers with a great opportunity to leverage on the fantastic success of the Microgaming brand. Ultimately we believe that this venture will not only be beneficial for the state lotteries we service, but for both ourselves and Microgaming too.”

Roger Raatgever, Microgaming CEO, says: “We are delighted to be able to license our casino games to Betware, which is truly a market leader in its field. Betware’s long history in gaming combined with its extensive lottery network will be beneficial in pushing the Microgaming brand into exciting new territories and markets. We look forward to a long and successful working relationship.”
 
Thanks Vinylweatherman for your post, very informative. I also agree with Nisobar as for the excitement of it. But then I also have apprehension of what ultimately this could/will mean for those of us in the US.
After playing pretty much all evening last night and off and on most of the day, I have been a little dissapointed in the fact that so many games have not migrated over as well and there are a lot of them and they're not blocked, they just aren't there. But they say they will be adding as they go, so maybe that's not a big deal.
But, the thing I do worry about, is if this is just a ploy to gracefully rid MG of an albatrose, which is the US players. Then once we have all been migrated into the new software, have the door closed on us permanently.
Really, until all things have come out in the open, regarding the laws and regs, many of us will not really know what will come of this venture and whether the US will still have an active place in a pastime that should be our right and our decision to enjoy.

A similar apprehension that I have had with EcoCard moving all US (and only US) customers to QT. Separated and culled out, we can then be lopped off like a rotten limb -- should the 'need' arise.
 
More detail on Betware

Betware is a pioneer in the Internet gaming market. The company was established in Iceland in 1998 with focus on developing interactive gaming solutions for legalised state lotteries.

The company’s customers are among the most innovative national and state lotteries in Europe and North America. In connection with delivering solutions to these lotteries, Betware’s Technology has passed numerous lottery audits which provide proof of the strength and security of Betware’s solutions. In 2009 Betware achieved ISO 27001 certification for information security.

Betware's headquarters are in Iceland with regional offices in Denmark, Spain, Poland and Canada. The company bought Danish game developer Certus which focuses on multiplayer social games in 2006. It is a member of The World Lottery Association and the European Lotteries.
 
On a factual basis, this is a perfectly legal commercial agreement through which Microgaming has licensed the copyright for use of certain of its games to an independent third party - Betware.

But it doesn't take much imagination to link the Betware statement with the moves by Casino-share et al into the US market using this 'new' software, despite the fact that it is not identified in the download.

The mere presence of so many MGS games, and so many MGS operators going for it, when there have been no other licensing deals announced by the Isle of Man company suggests that this is all part of one initiative.

The fact that Betware appears to be a totally distinct and independent company from Microgaming suggests that it will be free to enter into provider arrangements (including the US) with any online operator it wants to (assuming there are no restrictions in the games-licensing agreement with Microgaming)

It's a whole new ball game that effectively could take MGS out of the US equation, leaving the risk to those operators prepared to accept it and - possibly - the new software provider.

And as Mavin1 suggests, if MGS were then to decide to cut all ties with the legally troublesome and risky US market, it's operators will have already migrated all US players to the new software, leaving MGS free and clear.
 
Thank you for all the info Jetset....it really clarifies things ALOT, for everyone. :thumbsup:
 
Actually, this is excellent news. This gives players the opportunity to participate with some very well run operations.

Now if they could only get the payment issues straightened out. But I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. :rolleyes:
 
Just received this from the Fortune Lounge Group.

Dear xxxxxx

I hope you are doing splendidly well xxxxxx and that your week has been rewarding.

As your direct VIP Host at the Fortune Lounge Group I have made it my goal to offer you the best possible service and to assist you as much as I possibly can. My duties include assisting you with any queries you might have and to inform you of any changes that affects you as our valued patron.

That being said, I do have news today that will directly impact your gaming at the Fortune Lounge Group and I wanted to contact you personally to inform you of the upcoming changes. These changes will take effect on the 28th of May 2010.

On the 28th of May 2010 we will be rolling out new software for the 7Sultans, Royal Vegas, Fortune Room, Vegas Palms, Vegas Villa and Platinum Play Casinos. If you are currently playing exclusively at the Vegas Towers or Desert Dollar Casinos, your account details will be migrated to the Fortune Room Casino.

Although the current software isn’t Microgaming software, it is very, very similar and therefore we believe it will be a very smooth transition for our players. Making use of this new software will ensure that we continue to offer our US patrons an exciting gaming experience and of course, the world class service you have become accustomed to. This new software will retain the same look and feel, stability which includes most of the features you are used to!

You can enjoy all the great bonuses, promotions, purchase matches and offers you have come to love.

Unfortunately, we can no longer host live Multiplayer Tournaments and some of the games you have become used to will not be provided on the new software. There will however be a selection of fantastic games for you to choose from!!!!

You will still use the same account number and password you have always used and the new changes will in no way affect your credit card details or any other financial information.

We are moving into a new era and we are very excited about the future. I am confident you will join us on this journey.

I am currently out of the office next week, but you are welcome to contact me back any time. I will respond to you as soon as I return to the office.

My warmest regards.

Sincerely,

xxxxxxxxx
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Oh well no more Tournaments.....and some games missing..

C
 
I noticed from reading the Red Flush PR, where they list all the games, that there are some notable absentees. Now obviously the "brand" games like Hitman and Tombraider I can understand that - the licences will probably have a nosub-licensing clause - but Thunderstruck I and II, Spring Break and a few others are missing which doesn't make much sense??
 
I noticed from reading the Red Flush PR, where they list all the games, that there are some notable absentees. Now obviously the "brand" games like Hitman and Tombraider I can understand that - the licences will probably have a nosub-licensing clause - but Thunderstruck I and II, Spring Break and a few others are missing which doesn't make much sense??



Yes, at this time there are a lot of games missing, but when I spoke with cs the other day, he did say they would be adding games as they develop. I hope so, as many of my fav's are missing.
But other than that, the play was exactly the same as playing at MG, the look and feel is the same. The deposit methods are also the same, haven't tried the withdrawal as I played my money out.
But for those US players that haven't been able to enjoy MG, I think it will be great when they do open the sites up to new accounts and give US players a choice they haven't had prior. Wish all the other brands that left us would have done something like this.
So excitement and apprehension is running high right now.
 
Just a little more info: I've been told that the reason that not all the games have gone over is that MG need to make sure their own product remains significantly different to the licenced product. This means they have tried to find a balance between games that are popular with US players and those more popular elsewhere and do a licensing division with that in mind.
 
Just a little more info: I've been told that the reason that not all the games have gone over is that MG need to make sure their own product remains significantly different to the licenced product. This means they have tried to find a balance between games that are popular with US players and those more popular elsewhere and do a licensing division with that in mind.

What concerns me is whether this will affect non US players in any way.

Initially, I thought the operators would ditch MGS altogether, and not only US players, but ALL players would find themselves with a new software suite, as happened with Grand Prive.

Now, it seems we won't be affected at all, but the new product is ALREADY so similar to MGS that it isn't going to fool anybody that has ever played at an MGS casino. The fact that merely logging into an existing Viper client will automatically update this to the new software makes this VERY connected to MGS, hardly enough for them to claim this is "arm's length"

There is also the matter of promotions. With the player base split between US and non-US, there will have to be a splitting of promotions, especially of the sort where you wager for prizes. The result will surely be a reduction in the prizes, since the total fund will need to be split between 2 platforms. This might put off players, who will see this as a halving of the value of said promotions.

I see no reason why the new variant cannot introduce it's own multiplayer tournaments in time, this is NOT something exclusive to MGS, and different games & formats would ensure the two products remained different enough.

There might be a problem with licensing the games to online operators AND state lotteries though, since one outlet for the games will be seen as "illegal", and might cause embarrassment for state lotteries offering the SAME games, yet saying they are LEGAL when THEY offer them.

It does mean that MGS have lifted the restriction on operators that didn't allow them to use more than one software, otherwise it would be plainly obvious that BOTH softwares were "Microgaming" if it is claimed the restriction is still in place.

I am surprised MGS went to all this trouble to migrate a player base that only a couple of months ago their CEO said was "no longer commercially viable".

The fact that US players are NOT simply going to be shut out overnight as I predicted is great for them, BUT I am still uneasy about all the contradictory statements, and dark dealings that have been a feature of the last couple of years between MGS, operators, and US players.

I still think MGS have done this because they feared a mass exodus of operators to other brands if they were to simply shut down US players on June 1st, but the timing of this mass migration DOES suggest that this had been the plan all along, to ditch US players by some means on or before June 1st.

Added to this, was the sudden ending of the Red Flush Lara Croft promo for "unforseen circumstances". Well, now it is OBVIOUS, the migration of the US player base to the .net variant would freeze them out of further rounds of the event, and cause much discontent because no US player could win the main prize (there being NO Tomb Raider slot in the US variant, along with the problem of tracking scores across two platforms).

I would expect Red Flush to bring out a split promotion for the summer, maybe brought forward so that US players have an incentive to play with the new software, as well as give non US players something to fill the unexpected vacuum created by the early end of the recent promotion.

It remains to be seen whether non-US players see any difference because of this.
 
Does anyone have a list of MG casinos that are/have switched over to this new software? I can only play at Royal Joker, but haven't received anything from them yet, so I was just wondering which casinos these were. And if a player had accounts at these other MG casinos before the UIGEA went into effect, would the player be able to have an account reopened now? I had several accounts with different MG casinos, but had the door slammed shut in my face before the UIGEA went into effect.
Just wondering...
 
do you think there on the in with the political movement like getting more info from our law maker's then we are

the dirty bastard law makers i think want the juice off this fruit ,
if so who are they working with [if my suspicions are correct]

just guessing here gut feeling R C

is micro gaming a private owned company or is it listed ??
 
Privately owned, Rocky.

As a major industry company I'm sure MGS has its own sources of US legislative info; whether that tells them stuff the rest of us don't know about yet is open to conjecture I guess.

Smart companies leave as many options open to themselves as they can, so that they can make the optimum moves in response to the ever-changing business environment, and my guess is that this is what is motivating Microgaming management.
 

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