Buzzluck New Playthrough Amounts

[dreamguardian1]

Hi all,

Just a friendly warning to be careful when using the new bonus coupons through Buzzluck. You know the ones we all got in our new emails boxes for FREE SPINS after you make a deposit!! Well there is an unwritten and I havent found it yet, playthrough amount. Basically I deposited $40.00 and got hit with a $2400.00 playthrough amount. So watch your butts, this is why i dont use coupons. But this comiing from Club World is a HUGE SCHOCK and I already emailed Karoline hoping that that amount is in error. Because it is simple mathematics $40.00 deposit Times 30X playthrough amount is 1200.00 NOT $2400

 

[weplant]

Thanks for the heads up..What is happening over there...I am having problems with payout..Yikes..
It is getting so difficult for us to play anywhere

 

[dreamguardian1]

Ya well i heard back from Karolina, they include the FREE SPINS as part of the playthrough amount so that its doubled. Im like holy crap. No problems with withdrawls from buzzluck for me even after updating my credit card. So thats good news for me, but only probably cause they know i will be emailing the reps going HEY im honest u be too.

 

[Nifty29]

Hi all,

Just a friendly warning to be careful when using the new bonus coupons through Buzzluck. You know the ones we all got in our new emails boxes for FREE SPINS after you make a deposit!! Well there is an unwritten and I havent found it yet, playthrough amount. Basically I deposited $40.00 and got hit with a $2400.00 playthrough amount. So watch your butts, this is why i dont use coupons. But this comiing from Club World is a HUGE SCHOCK and I already emailed Karoline hoping that that amount is in error. Because it is simple mathematics $40.00 deposit Times 30X playthrough amount is 1200.00 NOT $2400

OK....just to clarify....

All the coupons (AFAIK) involving free spins ALSO involve a deposit match.

For instance, I received an offer from BL as follows:

$20-$100
75% up to $1000
40 FS

$101-$200
85% up to $1000
60 FS

More than $201
85% up to $1000
80 FS

Your coupons may be different of course.

The way it works is this:

1. Submit the coupon

2. Deposit (in this case $40)

3. Exit cashier.

(When you exit the cashier, a full screen popup appears informing you of your free spins and that you HAVE to play them right away.)

4. Play all free spins.

5. After last free spin, your 75% deposit match (in my case) is added to your balance.

6. Wagering towards meeting WR begins.

It is important to note that the free spins WINNINGS do NOT add to your WAGERING. WR is ONLY calculated on your initial deposit + match bonus.

Of course, you cannot cash out the free spins winnings immediately, but it means you have extra in your starting balance to help you meet the WR.

My guess is that your offer was a 100% match + FS. Hence, since you deposited $40, your WR would be 40 dep + 40 match = 80 x 30 = $2400.

IMO Karolina has her facts wrong in this case. Unless something has changed very recently, this is how it works.


Perhaps you could post the email offer?

 

[mrmark21]

I only ever use welcome bonuses. Nothing else. What I don't like about RTG casino welcome bonuses (which are similar to their others) is that unlike Microgaming the free spins always need to be played first. With MG I'm able to save the spins until I've busted out, so I've got a little extra playtime.

 

[clubworld]

Free Spin Promotion

Hello,

Nifty is 100% correct on this one.

Terms and conditions of the promotion:

1. This promotion starts on 00:00:01 EST on Monday 14th January 2013 and ends at 23:59:59 EST on Sunday 3rd February 2013.
2. Any winnings from your Free Spins will be paid into your Cash balance, and will not be removed from any subsequent cash out
3. The free spins can only be used on Free Spins Game.
4. Playthrough will start calculating once your free spins are completed
5. The bonus and the deposit must be wagered (30) times bonus + deposit before a cashout is permitted
6. Only wagers on Slots and Keno are permitted before you have met this requirement.

Kind Regards,
Karolina

 

[BMWSTACK]

I have never had an issue with playthrough amount at buzzluck, the free spins are just bonus and dont impact the playthrough at all. I do wish that they would come up with a better promotion for free spind based upon the amount deposited. All the free spins are at minimum bet on whatever machine is selected for that promotion. They should do a promotion with free spins based upon the amount deposited. maybe something like deposit up to $75 get 20 spins at .25cents $76- $150 get 20 spins at .50cents. The more you deposit the less attractive minimum bet free spins become.

BTW why is this in the america the beautiful section?

 

[weesie]

Lucky Red is doing these types of promos too. I don't like them.

They say in the fine print, wagering calculations will be figured AFTER the free spins. Then the wagering X"s much higher to boot.

No Thanks!

As far as withdrawals from the CWC group, I had a cashout on the 6th, from Manhattan Slots, got an e-mail this morning confirming that my withdrawal had been processed this morning, the 8th. I expect to see it in my bank by Tuesday.

 

[Nifty29]

Lucky Red is doing these types of promos too. I don't like them.

They say in the fine print, wagering calculations will be figured AFTER the free spins. Then the wagering X"s much higher to boot.

No Thanks!

As far as withdrawals from the CWC group, I had a cashout on the 6th, from Manhattan Slots, got an e-mail this morning confirming that my withdrawal had been processed this morning, the 8th. I expect to see it in my bank by Tuesday.

Why does it bother you that WR begins after free spins? It has no impact at all on anything.

It doesn't mean the WR is CALCULATED after the free spins.....just that it STARTS. I.e. your WR will always be xdeposit+bonus regardless of free spin results.

Actually, its a good deal, as your free spin winnings are not included in the WR and are not removed at cashout like bonuses. It could be improved, as BMW said, to make it more attractive for higher depositors.

I just don't see the negatives in this deal....???

 

[weplant]

I am just thankful for any bonus

 

[weesie]

Why does it bother you that WR begins after free spins? It has no impact at all on anything.

It doesn't mean the WR is CALCULATED after the free spins.....just that it STARTS. I.e. your WR will always be xdeposit+bonus regardless of free spin results.

Actually, its a good deal, as your free spin winnings are not included in the WR and are not removed at cashout like bonuses. It could be improved, as BMW said, to make it more attractive for higher depositors.

I just don't see the negatives in this deal....???

Sorry, I just like knowing going in what my wagering is...... i.e. 20x or 25x........ with the free spins included in the bonus, they also increased the wagering to 30x. They are starting to get as high on wagering as Jackpot Capital. 30x is too high in my opinion. I usually don't take them at 25x either for that matter. But, like I said, this is my opinion.

 

[Nifty29]

Sorry, I just like knowing going in what my wagering is...... i.e. 20x or 25x........ with the free spins included in the bonus, they also increased the wagering to 30x. They are starting to get as high on wagering as Jackpot Capital. 30x is too high in my opinion. I usually don't take them at 25x either for that matter. But, like I said, this is my opinion.

30x is high, but it is becoming more and more common.

I still don't understand.....you do know exactly what your wagering will be before you deposit with this promo....???. The free spins have no bearing.

At least with RTG free spins they aren't subject to extra WR and aren't considered sticky.

If you have a decent win on the free spins, you can actually reduce your WR in a way, as you will start with a higher balance. E.g. you deposit 50 get 50 bonus+FS, WR is 3000. You win 50 on free spins, your WR is still 3000 but you're starting with 150, meaning you only really have to wager your start balance x20 to cashout. FS winnings actually help you meet WR.

 

[BMWSTACK]

Sorry, I just like knowing going in what my wagering is...... i.e. 20x or 25x........ with the free spins included in the bonus, they also increased the wagering to 30x. They are starting to get as high on wagering as Jackpot Capital. 30x is too high in my opinion. I usually don't take them at 25x either for that matter. But, like I said, this is my opinion.

I am not sure if you understand it works or how Nifty explained it to you. The playthrough is listed on the promtion obv. I believe that you think that the playthrough is calculated after what you win on the free spins, it is not. The playthrough is only on your deposit and bonus NOT what you win on the free spins. For example if you deposit $50 with 100% bonus and 20x playthrough the WR is going to be $2000.00. After your free spins no matter what you win your WR is still going to be $2000.00. If you win $50 you just got an extra $50 to play with, without added WR.

I think what may be confusing you is that term that says "playthrough doesnt start until after free spins completed". All that means is your free spins are not going to lower your playthrough every time you spin that free spin. After you start spinning after the free spin your WR will start going down then.

Ok looks like Nifty got another explanation out while I was typing, I hate when that happens it looks like i was replying because the other persons reply was not satisfactory. Dont worry yours was good, you know we let you know when your answers suck.

 

[weesie]

ok,

Well, I took this line:

"""5. Playthrough will start calculating once your free spins are completed """""


to mean your starting balance : i.e. deposit + bonus+ free spin total equaling the total amount to start with for wagering. You guys are saying the deposit and bonus ONLY are required wagering and the free spins wins are not included in the starting total.

 

[BMWSTACK]

ok,

Well, I took this line:

"""5. Playthrough will start calculating once your free spins are completed """""


to mean your starting balance : i.e. deposit + bonus+ free spin total equaling the total amount to start with for wagering. You guys are saying the deposit and bonus ONLY are required wagering and the free spins wins are not included in the starting total.

YES!!!!! Finally lol. Better to be safe than sorry, thats why we have this place here.

So actually if you manage to win something of free spins its like extra help to clear the playthrough. The only problem is the free
spins are normally minimum bet which doesnt pay back well. So if i deposit say like $200 the free spins are big friggin deal. Now the small depositors get a good deal but not larger depositors. And dont let me bitch too much because it is normally tied to a 100% bonus.

 

[manuels58]

ok,

Well, I took this line:

"""5. Playthrough will start calculating once your free spins are completed """""

to mean your starting balance : i.e. deposit + bonus+ free spin total equaling the total amount to start with for wagering. You guys are saying the deposit and bonus ONLY are required wagering and the free spins wins are not included in the starting total.

I'm sorry but you are not seeing it the right way.
You surely also have another condition that says that the winnings from the free spins are added to your Cash balance.

This is a new type of promotion within the CW group.
I have already gotten these bonuses from more than one CW casino and I can assure that you are not right.

The clause/condition you quote only means that the playthrough will start counting immediately after the winnings from the free spins have been added to your balance, so that this is higher to give you a bit more chances to meeting the wagering requirements, which are calculated over the (D+B) only.

Let's see a practical example:

• Imagine you have a coupon which offers you a "100% match bonus with 30x playthrough on "deposit + bonus" + 50 free spins on a specific slot game";
• You decide to redeem this coupon at the cashier and you make a deposit of $25 afterwards;
• Immediately after you finish your deposit, you can see on the Coupon Details the playthrough of 30 x (25 + 25) = $1500 ;
• When you leave the cashier, a pop-up will show informing you have 50 free spins on the specific slot and you click on Play now;
• You play the free spins and you win (let's say) $10. You close the slot game and you can check at the cashier that your balance is now $60 (= $25 deposit + $25 100% match + $10 free spins winnings);
• At this point you can also check at the cashier that the playthrough maintains being $1500. From now on you can start playing to meet the wagering requirements;
• Now, please note that you have $60 balance to wager the same $1500. This means your playthrough is now only 25x (= 1500 / 60), instead of 30x if your coupon was only a 100% match bonus and didn't include the 50 free spins.
• Conclusion: With the free spins winnings being added to your Cash balance, your playthrough will decrease a little bit (of course it will decrease as much as the higher the winnings from the free spins are).

Hope this enlightens you about this kind of promotions.

 

[chuchu59]

I dont know exactly the wrsfor free spins but I believe it should either be, assuming a 30x wr to be:
1/ the value of the total free spins x30
or
2/winnings derived from the free spins x30.

Either of these 2 methods of calculation seem fair to me.

 

[BMWSTACK]

I dont know exactly the wrsfor free spins but I believe it should either be, assuming a 30x wr to be:
1/ the value of the total free spins x30
or
2/winnings derived from the free spins x30.

Either of these 2 methods of calculation seem fair to me.

There is no wr on free spins, only on the deposit + bonus.

 

[silcnlayc]

Actually, Jackpot Capital Group has a 60x wagering on any free tokens given. (I usually get $100 evry once in a while) They also have a max withdrawal of 5x the token. Extremely poor offer from this group IMO.

30x is high, but it is becoming more and more common.

I still don't understand.....you do know exactly what your wagering will be before you deposit with this promo....???. The free spins have no bearing.

At least with RTG free spins they aren't subject to extra WR and aren't considered sticky.

If you have a decent win on the free spins, you can actually reduce your WR in a way, as you will start with a higher balance. E.g. you deposit 50 get 50 bonus+FS, WR is 3000. You win 50 on free spins, your WR is still 3000 but you're starting with 150, meaning you only really have to wager your start balance x20 to cashout. FS winnings actually help you meet WR.

 

[dreamguardian1]

30x is high, but it is becoming more and more common.

I still don't understand.....you do know exactly what your wagering will be before you deposit with this promo....???. The free spins have no bearing.

At least with RTG free spins they aren't subject to extra WR and aren't considered sticky.

If you have a decent win on the free spins, you can actually reduce your WR in a way, as you will start with a higher balance. E.g. you deposit 50 get 50 bonus+FS, WR is 3000. You win 50 on free spins, your WR is still 3000 but you're starting with 150, meaning you only really have to wager your start balance x20 to cashout. FS winnings actually help you meet WR.

Actually no, when i done my welcome depsoit bonus from my email absolutely NO playthrough amount screen showed up which is why I was floored to see that huge playthrough amount. If i would have seen it before i deposited I would never have done it.

 

[Nifty29]

Actually no, when i done my welcome depsoit bonus from my email absolutely NO playthrough amount screen showed up which is why I was floored to see that huge playthrough amount. If i would have seen it before i deposited I would never have done it.

I don't understand what you're getting at.....??

The deposit bonus AND the playthrough does NOT show up until the free spins are finished. Before then, ONLY your DEPOSIT will show. You DID see it before you deposited.....in the email.

What I, and the rep and others, explained to you is an indisputable fact.

The email spells it out and there is no "extra wagering" and, if you had read the email, you would have found the wagering requirements clearly stipulated.

The coupon you entered was for a 100% (?) match PLUS free spins.

Post the email, and I will show you.

If you want to continue saying that everybody is wrong, then feel free, but we are only trying to help you. Whether you listen or not is your choice.

 

[dreamguardian1]

It wasnt an email, it was in the ingame email, when they first brought it online for buzzluck. All it allowed me to do was copy and past the bonus coupon into the screen from the site. It COULD be adaptive software or popup issues but immediately upon entering it the free spins came up, entered through the free spins then my screen came up with the playthrough amounts. I am NOT saying everyone on here is wrong Nifty but I AM telling you what was and what was not on my screen which I could see.

 

[mrmark21]

I just wish they would allow players to claim these promotions on minimum deposit

 

[dreamguardian1]

I think you can on some of them but dont quote me. I just do my usual deposits of low amounts but osme o fhtem i think are minium $21.00 deposit. I guess it depends on which coupone you use.

 

[mrmark21]

I think you can on some of them but dont quote me. I just do my usual deposits of low amounts but osme o fhtem i think are minium $21.00 deposit. I guess it depends on which coupone you use.

Do you know any coupons that you can claim on a minimum deposit? I'd be very interested to know actually maybe Clubworld could chime in?