Bryan, Beware Unintentional Chargebacks-WHY?

NASHVEGAS

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I made some posts in the Fall in regards to what the US banks know. Oh well who cares!.

I also had to deal (while becoming very ill healthwise) with an unexpected situation with one of the 10 largest banks in the US. Logically, I assumed I may have a hell of a mess. Even while ill, I attempted to avoid a mess. I contacted an ewallet via chat, but they never had heard of UIGEA or so it seemed. To this day,I believe someone needs to be made whole (not moi) but despite a few attempts while ill, I guess not. Being proactive was a waste of time. Sorry for being somewhat evasive but it is in all's best interest at this time!

Opening some of my backlog of mail, I thought this message on all my Region's bank account statements (which are not even personal accounts but commercial) somewhat indirectly supports my prior posts in the Fall before I was hospitalized for over 5 weeks.

FTR, Regions is not the bank I was refer(r)ing to in the second paragraph above but is also one of the US's 10 largest banks (and they hatefully thank the taxpayers for keeping them as an ongoing concern and allowing them to remain the first class pricks they are=(.)

Yes, I know the Dec.1,2009 deadline ((for what the ewallets have never heard of, ouch)) was extended for 6 months iirc but these bank statements were not mailed until the first week in December 2009,fwiw. (If this is a redundant post, my apologies as I have not been able to read many forum posts in the last few months). Lastly, feel free to move to ATB but I believe eventually this will concern all, know what I mean, of course ,lol, not:p
 
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vinylweatherman

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This looks like a standard message added to statements so that they don't get complaints from customers about declined transactions due to something "I have never heard of".

The wording the banks have used is going to be a pain to the AMERICAN based internet gambling offerings, such as online racetrack betting, state lotteries, etc, since this warning does not differentiate between the two, it states that ALL online transactions for gambling purposes are now illegal, which many customers will assume also means online purchases for their state lotteries. These are the very industries who wanted UIGEA brought in to protect THEIR gambling businesses, rather than for any moral reasons.
 

NASHVEGAS

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This looks like a standard message added to statements so that they don't get complaints from customers about declined transactionsdue to something "I have never heard of".
I know what you are saying, but I am not sure standard conates (is this a word??) the situation. The employees on the front lines including branch managers do not have a clue what UIGEA is (no sarcasm) just like the e-wallets (sarcasm).

It is not limited to just declined transactions but accounts are being closed. This is fact. I have reason to believe more is also transpiring but until I can attest as fact, it is just speculation.

The wording the banks have used is going to be a pain to the AMERICAN based internet gambling offerings, such as online racetrack betting, state lotteries, etc, since this warning does not differentiate between the two, it states that ALL online transactions for gambling purposes are now illegal, which many customers will assume also means online purchases for their state lotteries. These are the very industries who wanted UIGEA brought in to protect THEIR gambling businesses, rather than for any moral reasons.
A pain to the customer also, see above.
Cheers:thumbsup:
 

rockycatt

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I made some posts in the Fall in regards to what the US banks know. Oh well who cares!.

I also had to deal (while becoming very ill healthwise) with an unexpected situation with one of the 10 largest banks in the US. Logically, I assumed I may have a hell of a mess. Even while ill, I attempted to avoid a mess. I contacted an ewallet via chat, but they never had heard of UIGEA or so it seemed. To this day,I believe someone needs to be made whole (not moi) but despite a few attempts while ill, I guess not. Being proactive was a waste of time. Sorry for being somewhat evasive but it is in all's best interest at this time!

Opening some of my backlog of mail, I thought this message on all my Region's bank account statements (which are not even personal accounts but commercial) somewhat indirectly supports my prior posts in the Fall before I was hospitalized for over 5 weeks.

FTR, Regions is not the bank I was refer(ring to in the second paragraph above but is also one of the UK's 10 largest banks (and they hatefully thank the taxpayers for keeping them as an ongoing concern and allowing them to remain the first class pricks they are=(.)

Yes, I know the Dec.1,2009 deadline ((for what the ewallets have never heard of, ouch)) was extended for 6 months iirc but these bank statements were not mailed until the first week in December 2009,fwiw. (If this is a redundant post, my apologies as I have not been able to read many forum posts in the last few months). Lastly, feel free to move to ATB but I believe eventually this will concern all, know what I mean, of course ,lol, not:p
but just recently we exchanged posts about one of your sweet hits about bonus's i asked if you used them and you replied no :)

so are you saying that you didn't get paid yet or is this just on the depositing side I'm a little confused :confused:
 

NASHVEGAS

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but just recently we exchanged posts about one of your sweet hits about bonus's i asked if you used them and you replied no :)

so are you saying that you didn't get paid yet or is this just on the depositing side I'm a little confused :confused:
You are not a little confused but absolutely totally confused and some of what you are confused about confuses moi:D, although I did expect confusion and stated I had to be somewhat evasive, you know Mr. Cryptic so read carefully.

That said, this has nothing to do at all with boni and ftr I never deposit and use boni. Comp type boni, I have used in the past but not relevant to my post unless I am not thinking clearly.

Has nothing to do with me not getting paid. I have stated many times I suck at math:rolleyes::D but some party to reconcile or balance the books per se needs to be made whole, NOT ME, now refer to the original post. Wish I could be clearer but I have reasons just like Bryan when he is silent on player fraud. We all want to avoid that,YES:)
 
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NASHVEGAS

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Rocky,
Please edit my quoted post back to what I posted. I never mentioned UK banks,etc......Thanks
 

rockycatt

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You are not a little confused but absolutely totally confused and some of what you are confused about confuses moi:D, although I did expect confusion and stated I had to be somewhat evasive, you know Mr. Cryptic so read carefully.

That said, this has nothing to do at all with boni and ftr I never deposit and use boni. Comp type boni, I have used in the past but not relevant to my post unless I am not thinking clearly.

Has nothing to do with me not getting paid. I have stated many times I suck at math:rolleyes::D but some party to reconcile or balance the books per se needs to be made whole, NOT ME, now refer to the original post. Wish I could be clearer but I have reasons just like Bryan when he is silent on player fraud. We all want to avoid that,YES:)
well im glad [really ]that your feeling better ,i take it then you need to move money out of your safe place to satisfy others

I'm shure you know what rout to take for that :thumbs up:
 

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Hey Nash,

You should remind your bank that you can bet on the dogs via the Internet as much as you want - it's perfectly legal. See what they have to say, and then ask your bank if they are as confused as we are :D

Have them check this place out and ask them how they would process your wire. :p
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NASHVEGAS

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Hey Nash,

You should remind your bank that you can bet on the dogs via the Internet as much as you want - it's perfectly legal. See what they have to say, and then ask your bank if they are as confused as we are :D

Have them check this place out and ask them how they would process your wire. :p
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Do you know any honest Bankers in the US :rolleyes: I could ask?? The ones I know claim betting on the track via the "NET" is not "GAMBLING":D. It must be that I am ~60 miles from the KY border.;)
 

NASHVEGAS

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uhh wat i dident insert anything explain further and if i can oblidge i will :)
In your post #4 at 1:33 PM CST, your post of my quote states:

"FTR, Regions is not the bank I was refer(ring to in the second paragraph above but is also one of the UK's 10 largest banks (and they hatefully thank the taxpayers for keeping them as an ongoing concern and allowing them to remain the first class pricks they are=(.)"

Probably unintentional errors!! I have underlined the 2 differences in your post above that I glancingly noticed from my actual quote (with my last edit at 1:15 PM CST). The UK (in your post only) difference is the only one I consider significant.

Thanks:)
 

WagerWitch

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Last year (2009) I had some major issues that happened all at once - ALSO - Nash.

Let me tell you - dealing with other people's snafu's are ridiculous.

I WILL NEVER ever ever ever use Neteller again because of an issue I had in 2006/2007. Which trust me - was NOT my fault.

These banks overcharge - totally walk all over people and totally create messes - not to mention these eWallets also cause some problems.

It's really too bad banks are telling us what to do with our own money.

Especially when the law is NOT exact - and is open to total interpretation.
 

nitro

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However - I wanted to add - even while those horrible things are going on - there are still some GOOD THINGS.
It's not the banks that are trying to tell you what to do with your own money - it's your US fascist regime.
 

WagerWitch

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It's not the banks that are trying to tell you what to do with your own money - it's your US fascist regime.
Hmmmm - LMAO - I still think there are good things about the world tho.

And while our govt.does have some issues - over all - it's generally a decent govt. - for as many people as it governs - it tries.
 

rockycatt

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any and all banks that may or not be mentioned here are specifically fictitious and are used in a proxy manor to illustrate the situation

and are here by used as a fictitious article to extrapolate the context of the sample situation witch doesn't exist to begin with :D:D



but just recently we exchanged posts about one of your sweet hits about bonus's i asked if you used them and you replied no :)

so are you saying that you didn't get paid yet or is this just on the depositing side I'm a little confused :confused:
 

bryand

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any and all banks that may or not be mentioned here are specifically fictitious and are used in a proxy manor to illustrate the situation

and are here by used as a fictitious article to extrapolate the context of the sample situation witch doesn't exist to begin with :D:D

This entire thread gets my vote for:

MOST CRYPTIC
MOST CONFUSING
MOST CYNICAL
MOST FAR REACHING
MOST INTERNALLY CONTRADICTING
MOST EXISTENTIAL :thumbsup:
 

nitro

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I would LOVE to see MORE "GOOD" posts - more "cheering" posts - more posts about HEY this customer service rocks... Hey this affiliate program is Da Bomb! Hey this casino is super cool - and they treat me like a millionaire.
And you've got it.:thumbsup:
 

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