Brutal RTG sessions

[soflat]

I can't hit anything at Club World. If they ever want me to deposit again they'll have to publish their slot payouts, because they are tight as heck.

 

[swampwitch]

For what it's worth, yesterday I won $300 from a $50 deposit at Club USA (World), playing just slots. It was in my Neteller within 2 hours.

I have always had the most luck with RTG. Micro has given me very few wins, with the exception of 32Red, where I can't play anymore. Playtech sucked the life right outta me. Lasseters was pretty damned good to me, so of course I can't play there anymore, either (Go figure. An entire freaking CONTINENT a'scairt to go against Chimpy McFlightsuit and his Pen of Armageddon.).

 

[Nifty29]

Well, as Emily has said, the slot payouts are around 96% which is actually very good (our land-based slots in Oz have a mandated 88% return).

HOWEVER - does this figure include the random jackpots? If so, then Im sure the actual return to players who DONT win a jackpot must be somewhat lower.....??. Im not a stats man, but in reality it must affect how much you win on a session by session basis.

Also, remember that a certain % of every spin goes toward the jackpot so the regular payout will be less (jackpot not withstanding) then a stand alone slot with no jackpot e.g. MG slots

Im happy to stand corrected if someone has a better explanation

 

[Addisyn]

Well, as Emily has said, the slot payouts are around 96% which is actually very good (our land-based slots in Oz have a mandated 88% return).

HOWEVER - does this figure include the random jackpots? If so, then Im sure the actual return to players who DONT win a jackpot must be somewhat lower.....??. Im not a stats man, but in reality it must affect how much you win on a session by session basis.

Very interesting observation. Any of you statisticians have any thoughts on this?

I too have detected a pattern. My losing streak has now extended past a month. If and when I do hit a feature, usually on a $2.00 per spin bet, my return is averaging around $16.00 for the session. In the past it ranged closer to $100.00 for a session. Recently I have had free spin sessions where not one spin will hit and I come away with just the initial payout for hitting the feature which is measly. You can't sustain any play time with results like this so I have now given up.

The only thing I can suggest is to wait until there is a regulatory arm for the RTG casinos certifying their payout percentages. I will wait.

Pattern: A customary way of operation or behavior.

It isn't a perception it is an expectation of certain behavior.

 

[soflat]

Well, as Emily has said, the slot payouts are around 96% which is actually very good (our land-based slots in Oz have a mandated 88% return).

HOWEVER - does this figure include the random jackpots? If so, then Im sure the actual return to players who DONT win a jackpot must be somewhat lower.....??. Im not a stats man, but in reality it must affect how much you win on a session by session basis.

Also, remember that a certain % of every spin goes toward the jackpot so the regular payout will be less (jackpot not withstanding) then a stand alone slot with no jackpot e.g. MG slots

Im happy to stand corrected if someone has a better explanation

iNet's slots payouts were 94.30% in 1995 (the last year they reported them), and they decreased every year since 2001 (as per their website).

It is unknown what Club World has their slots set at as they do not report them. They must not want players to know just how tight they are.

iNet's websiate goes on to state: "However, some of the best pay back percentages in the world are at iNetBet. We beat our competition by almost 10% in favor of you the player. "

I don't know who they are referring to, but maybe it is their RTG competitors such as Club World. That would suggest a very low payout on some RTGs.

Also, I agree about the jackpot contribution affecting the base game payout. Progressives are generally tighter than other slots.

 

[pingpong]

after playing RTG slots for two years

...I had to reduce the bet from 1 dollar a spin to 40 cent a spin. The brutal sessions were just too many, and reduced betsize was the only way to deposit 100 dollar every now and then and get them to last an entertaining hour or two.

As I see it, the only way to "survive" at RTG casinos, is winning the random jackpot once a year or so. My own payoutpercent at Inetbet is about 85-90 percent, but only because I got a 2200 dollar RJ in March last year. At 49ers and clubworld, the percent is probaby around 25-30 - due to the fact that I have never hit a RJ there.

The RTG-slots are VERY addictive, and the (very tiny) chance of hitting a mega RJ on a small bet is tempting. Face it folks, we all want one of those bigges. Without those RJs I think people would stick to MG or Wagerlogic.

 

[babs7262]

Finally, a w/d

OMG

I agree with you guys. I finally got a measly $120 w/d from Casino World but I had the worst 2 months before that. I have been sloing down

The funny thing is, we went to a B&M Saturday and I put in my first $20 and hit for $113, left that machine, went downstairs, put in $20 and on my second spin, hit for another $120

Plus,,,,free parking, free dinner and cashback from them (I won win their money). We spent the whole day for free plus got paid!!

 

[vinylweatherman]

Brutal

I finally had a decent session at King Solomons from my regular 100 deposit at weekends. Normally I use one of the coupons, but I was getting errors trying to redeem them (it said I had already used them, but I had not). I deposited 100 and added my comps to give me a 17% bonus I got this up to 700 with a few 50x stake bonus rounds (pretty unusual for RTG, where I have found 10x the more likely result).
I deposit FAR MORE at Microgaming, since they don't have the ability to mess with payouts that RTG has, and they publish payout figures so would not dare do anything too harsh as they would be found out. RTG hide their payouts, and from the paytable at Club World's Tri-Card Poker, which is screwed down so tight it hurts (35/25) I would suspect the slots are similarly screwed down tight.

 

[Simmo!]

Plus,,,,free parking..

To be fair, I get free parking from several online casinos too. They should advertise this more.

 

[Pinababy69]

To be fair, I get free parking from several online casinos too. They should advertise this more.

I thought your Muppet Mobile was in the shop Simmo?

 

[pingpong]

...I had to reduce the bet from 1 dollar a spin to 40 cent a spin. The brutal sessions were just too many, and reduced betsize was the only way to deposit 100 dollar every now and then and get them to last an entertaining hour or two.

As I see it, the only way to "survive" at RTG casinos, is winning the random jackpot once a year or so. My own payoutpercent at Inetbet is about 85-90 percent, but only because I got a 2200 dollar RJ in March last year. At 49ers and clubworld, the percent is probaby around 25-30 - due to the fact that I have never hit a RJ there.

The RTG-slots are VERY addictive, and the (very tiny) chance of hitting a mega RJ on a small bet is tempting. Face it folks, we all want one of those bigges. Without those RJs I think people would stick to MG or Wagerlogic.

Well, Inetbet has now informed me that my payoutpercent is higher than I estimated, somewhere between 95 and 98 percent. My main point is still that you need to win a RJ regularly (anually?) to be ahead at RTGs casinos. I fully believe this, after watching all my deposits at other RTG casinos.

 

[silcnlayc]

Not for nothing, but Inetbet must be saying the payout percentages apply to one person a year IMO.

My main point is still that you need to win a RJ regularly

I too agree with this and think this is where they are getting the #'s for percentages. Take all the RJ winners and then post the %.(this is not a fact, just an overall impression)

Playing RTG for years, I have yet to hit a Random Jackpot. This still eludes me unlike the Rapid Fire and Super Hero Jackpots which I have hit many times considering the play I was doing before they left the US.

 

[Simmo!]

I thought your Muppet Mobile was in the shop Simmo?

I wish I understood that

 

[Macgyver]

I thought your Muppet Mobile was in the shop Simmo?

I wish I understood that

Muppet Mobile = automobile.

Of course, it could be a new cell phone or cell phone company for all I know.

 

[Addisyn]

I am doing an unscientific survey of RTG payout percentages. Currently I am contacting six CM accredited and 6 non-accredited casinos. Each of them is being asked the same question. What are your payout percentages for the Real Series 25 line online slots?

Each contact is being done by email, phone, casino contact, live help, and web site info. I am working on it slowly.

Thus far I have percentages ranging from 94.37% to 98%. That begs the question if the RTGs cannot set their own payout percentages why the variance?

In addition, I have received different information from the same casinos from the different approaches I have taken. I am not concluding anything from the information I have gathered just simply reporting the numbers.

 

[Zoozie]

Thus far I have percentages ranging from 94.37% to 98%. That begs the question if the RTGs cannot set their own payout percentages why the variance?

It is almost certain since several posters including InetBet has posted that RTG casino CAN set payout% for the slots. But I do not know if they can adjust the individual slots of all of them as a whole.

There was another thread how adjusting the payout% changed the slots, since this is a bit of a mystery for me, unless they change picking bonus games etc. or the reels.

INetBet posted payout% for their slots was a little below 95%. And from my RTG experience INetBet definately have higher payout% than most other RTG casinos where I played slots. So I would not believe a RTG casino that says 98%.

The RTG casinos should have payout% confirmed by independant companies like most other non RTG casinos does.

And if a casino indeed had 98% slot payout, I am sure they would tell it public.

If a RTG casino claim to have 95%+ payout% on slots, I would be very suspecious. So if you make a list, the players would probably believe
your results and play at the RTG casinos with the highest payout%, but these are actually just liers. Remember how notorious difficult it is to
get any reliable information about the RTG casino administration console and their abilities to change payout% (range etc.)

But it is still a very interesting project you got going and I am looking forward to the results.

Are you sure you mean 25-lines slots and not 20-lines? Most of the RTG slots are 20-lines

Zoozie

 

[soflat]

I am doing an unscientific survey of RTG payout percentages. Currently I am contacting six CM accredited and 6 non-accredited casinos. Each of them is being asked the same question. What are your payout percentages for the Real Series 25 line online slots?

Good job! The RTGs are such a mystery.

There are only 5 of them that I would even trust with a deposit, and two of them have such tight slots that I quit playing them (Or maybe it was just a run of bad luck. Oh well, they don't publish their payout%, what do I know anyways?).

I'd also like to know if they can change the payout% on the fly.

 

[EasyRhino]

don't forget, if they only report payouts for a single month, there's a lot of room for variance. I remember glancing at a microgaming shops report for one month, and slot payout was over 100%.

 

[Addisyn]

I will make sure they understood my question as I did misstate it in saying 25 lines instead of 20. Thanks for the heads up Zoozie!

It is so far quite interesting in that the majority of the RTGs have told me they payout percentages are 98%. I wasn't going to post the names of the casinos so no one took my information and used it to play those casinos that might be (I am being generous here) inflating their numbers.

 

[vinylweatherman]

RTG

I believe this player lead investigation might be worrying a few RTG operators. I have been having a dig, and decided to consult the "bible", and the Wizard does not mince his words on the subject.

First, he declares an interest in RTG, in that he worked as a consultant, so when, under slots, he has the simple statement "The operator may select their own return on the slot machines." I suspect he knows what he is talking about.
It is already pretty obvious that RTG operators can set the payouts on winning hands at the various poker gard games (you just need to log on to a few RTG sites and compare the paytables), and naturally this will change the long term expected payout percentage.

Clearly, this means that RTG casinos do not necessarily give the same value to players of the slots, and there are no figures available for players to use in deciding which RTG to play at. If operators can do this, there is nothing to stop them using this as a tool to control cashflow or boost profits at certain times.
For example, an RTG could try to lure new players by marketing a very good bonus for slots, while at the same time turning down the slots payouts a notch or two to offset their generosity. There is no way to determine (yet) whether any particular RTG has done this, but I have the seed of an idea based on a response to one of my other posts regarding how RTG slot reels work when displayed in the casino lobby.

 

[amatrine]

Re

Yeah I always figured when a casino has a large bonus to play a certain slot,
that that one is set low at the momet, or I have seen where someone has won a big jackpot on a machine, once it is won, they offer a large bonus to play that slot. So in general when these are offered I avoid those games all together,lol

Ama

 

[liseleva]

you are so right

I have been playing RTG games for A few years now and in my opinion you are so right when you say they don't even let you play for 15 minutes it just takes your money. I've also notice that when I'm on a really hot machine the casino gets disconnected and then they reconnect always inetbet. Not only once but everytime I play now as soon as it starting to pay poof they have to reconnect and than I lose all my money. Another thing that has been happening to me at inetbet is when i deposit money its approve and the money is not in my account. I have to write an e-mail 'cause that is the only way you can communicate with them. They've always gave me my money but I had to wait till they replied to my e-mail and when they reply to it they always blame neteller, which at the beginning I would accept that but after awhile I realized that the only time that this would happen to me is at inetbet.(funny). I have won at inetbet but never on the real series slots. I notice that after I had won thats when the machines would just take my money so I wrote a letter to the Manager and the reply was " I don't know why you are complainig I've check your accout and you are still ahead". Well thats not the point. The point is that just because I've won once that does not mean that every machine should be cold as ice. After that reply that i got I know they keep track of how much you deposit and how much you win. Not only that if you go to a real casino, and you win big, you could move to another machine and win again. Today they are ahead as I deposit approx. 100 a day, you'd think that I'd be able to cash out at least once??? something.

I also play at casinoextreme and I really think that out of all the RTG casino's I've played they are the best and most honest people. I have been playing that casino for a feww years 2 and I can't even count how much money I've cashed out. So as of today inetbet is on my black list because I really think that they are not fair at all with the players.

That really wasn't the point of the post. We are all agreeing in this thread the RTG casinos aren't behaving as they have in the past. I don't know what to tell you but I normally would deposit $100 to my casino account and play for hours. Hitting free spins periodically to let me to continue to play.

I didn't always have any winnings but went away feeling I had a fair play. Now when I play in any RTG I get that pre free spin in Raindance, for example, 10x the other night. Never once hitting the feature. I play Red Sands. Never hit a feature once in about 100 spins. Same thing across the board.

We are all experiencing the same thing. It could be coincidental. I will leave it at that.

 

[mikepipe]

welcome to the forum!
i feel with your frustration, i habve lost a lot at RTGs , but not more than on MGs.
I would prefer, to be a bit more reluctant with inetbet and especially with Emily, their manager.
They are fair - as long RTG can be fair at all. and, as we know, the casinos cant change the slots.
their payouts are fast, the cs is ok- not as good, as one couls expect- agreed!

 

[tencardcharlie]

They are fair - as long RTG can be fair at all. and, as we know, the casinos cant change the slots.

I don't understand what you mean. RTG casinos can change the payout for their slots.

 

[mikepipe]

I don't understand what you mean. RTG casinos can change the payout for their slots.

I have to apologize. That was bare nonense! I mixed it up with MG.
Inetbet is RTG- as we know.
So i try a new one: They (inetbet) is fair, as far as i know.
better?

 

[PegeeSue]

Wow...and here I thought I was the only one feeling like this. And I know this post is newer than the previous ones but I feel they've been stingy so to speak for some time now.

I love playing the RTG's. I pick them over any other software. I've tried and tried at the Micro's but wholly crap, $100 doesn't last 10 mins. They are hard and I've never ever cashed out at a Micro.

Unlike at an RTG casino (Breakaway) just very recently I deposited $20.00 and cashed out 10k. Mind you, I never won it by hitting any bonus rounds. I got lucky and hit 2 randoms. What a day I had. And....took 3 days to get my money...not bad I must admit since I wasn't sure if they were trusted in their payouts and if I would have to fight for it.

But since then I have probably put over 1/4 of it back at several RTG's and like most everyone else, nothing nothing and more nothing. The odd bonus round here and there. Sucks you dry before you know it.

 

[Mike031]

RTG casino (Breakaway) just very recently I deposited $20.00 and cashed out 10k.
took 3 days to get my money

That can't be, becasue they didn't payout more than $ 500 a day and if you want to pay out more, you must wait 2-3 business days, to get your next $ 500 (not one day, as written in their T&C) and this is for me a fact, why i'll never play there in the future, because this really sucks!
The same is certainly on their Sistercasino SciFi!

 

[SlotsWizard]

That can't be, becasue they didn't payout more than $ 500 a day and if you want to pay out more, you must wait 2-3 business days, to get your next $ 500 (not one day, as written in their T&C) and this is for me a fact, why i'll never play there in the future, because this really sucks!
The same is certainly on their Sistercasino SciFi!

Maybe they have different rules for Random Jackpot wins? She said she hit 2 of them back to back ... ? Just a thought.

Nonetheless... $500 a day is totally crappy.

 

[Mike031]

Maybe they have different rules for Random Jackpot wins?

Ok, that were certainly a possibilty, but i know self, how hard it is, to get the money, which is more, than $ 500, because if you make a withdrawal of $ 600, they'll send the money back into your playaccount without a false message, because i only get an email with the following sentence "your withdrawal was denied, please choose another withdrawal methode!
so how should i know, which problem they have?
ok i knew the $ 500 daily limit, but i thought, if i make a bigger withdrawal, that i must only wait 2-3 days and then i get the full amount, but as i could self see, was this bullshit
the only thing what you can make on this casino (and on scifi too) is, that you take their 300% (250% on scifi) bonus and fullfil the WR and then let you pay out, because thwir payout% are not really bad and i could make the WR without any problems on both casinos *lol*

 

[ergopro]

You may request as many withdrawals as you wish in any given month but only one withdrawal can be processed per day.
There is NO LIMIT to the amount a player can cash out in the casino. However, please note that the casino reserves the right to withhold withdrawals or security checks until the reception of all the required documents. Due to banking procedures and casino policies, when withdrawing large sums of money the casino may opt to send your winnings in installments.

Taken from their webpage...

 

[Mike031]

Yes, but i told you, that this is not so, because i had a $ 600 withdrawal and this was canceld, because it was too high, so i must again withdraw the $ 500 and i asked the chat support, why i can't withdraw more at one time, also, when i wait 2-3 days?

they told me only, that i can today withdraw my first $ 500 and the another $ 100 can't be paid before the next 3 working days!

 

[winbig]

they told me only, that i can today withdraw my first $ 500 and the another $ 100 can't be paid before the next 3 working days!

More than likely the first cashout request has to finish before they can (read: will) start another one. Still a stupid rule.

 

[ergopro]

they told me only, that i can today withdraw my first $ 500 and the another $ 100 can't be paid before the next 3 working days!

That is because the pay max. 500$ the same day and the remaining funds after 3 working days...
So if you would withdraw 5000$ you'd get 500$ the same day and 4500$ after 3days...

All withdrawal requests are processed within 1 to 3 business days after the date of the request. Same day payouts are available weekdays for withdrawals under $500, requested before 12pm EST.

 

[Mike031]

That is because the pay max. 500$ the same day and the remaining funds after 3 working days...

And i thought, that they would only withdraw $ 500 per day, because that were installments for me?
Than it was a misunderstood from me!

 

[Kenny Lingus]

RTG Sucks Bigtime!

I live in the States - in one of the ones that Microgaming doesn't allow players from, and RTG has been really the only legitimnate option...but I won't be back 'cause their software absolutely S-U-C-K-S.

Unless you hit a feature, it is virtually impossible to win on a slot game. And, the way the slots spin when you get close to a feature just lets you agonize over the fact that the winner just passed and you won't be hitting it this time...

Not to mention, the payout is poor on a per-line basis. It hit the following on a single spin on Achilles, playing 40 cents a spin: 4 10s, 3 Kings, 3 Shields, and 2 Helens. I won a whopping $1.34, even with 2 wild cards coming out on the first two lines (of course no 3rd one hit for the feature), and 5 seperate winning pay lines.

The worst thing is my funds get eaten away too fast, especially when the features don't come on a regular basis, or worse, you hit one but you get a big ZERO from the free spins. I could usually play a session of decent length at Microgaming, even with a small bankroll; at RTG you better have plans in about a half hour, 'cause you're most likely gonna be done gambling.

Guess I'm gonna have to open a bank account tied to a PO Box accross state lines, just so I can get back to Belle Rock and the rest of the MG casinos.

 

[SlotsWizard]

I live in the States - in one of the ones that Microgaming doesn't allow players from, and RTG has been really the only legitimnate option...but I won't be back 'cause their software absolutely S-U-C-K-S.

Unless you hit a feature, it is virtually impossible to win on a slot game. And, the way the slots spin when you get close to a feature just lets you agonize over the fact that the winner just passed and you won't be hitting it this time...

Not to mention, the payout is poor on a per-line basis. It hit the following on a single spin on Achilles, playing 40 cents a spin: 4 10s, 3 Kings, 3 Shields, and 2 Helens. I won a whopping $1.34, even with 2 wild cards coming out on the first two lines (of course no 3rd one hit for the feature), and 5 seperate winning pay lines.

The worst thing is my funds get eaten away too fast, especially when the features don't come on a regular basis, or worse, you hit one but you get a big ZERO from the free spins. I could usually play a session of decent length at Microgaming, even with a small bankroll; at RTG you better have plans in about a half hour, 'cause you're most likely gonna be done gambling.

Guess I'm gonna have to open a bank account tied to a PO Box accross state lines, just so I can get back to Belle Rock and the rest of the MG casinos.

Welcome to the forum... and... nice screen name!

 

[Mike031]

I could usually play a session of decent length at Microgaming, even with a small bankroll; at RTG you better have plans in about a half hour, 'cause you're most likely gonna be done gambling.

That's YOUR bad experience, but i must experience even the opposite, because on MG Casinos i lost always all my money and never get any big wins and IF i get a feature (after400-500 spins!) i get only a very low win, so i'll never play there!

On RTG i had won very much, because i've won there 2 Random Jackpots about $ 10,000 within 2 weeks and 2 days ago i started to play with $ 75 and only 20 cent bets and after 3 hours my balance was up to $ 190, because i hit free spins after free spins, so i can't agree with your experience, but probably you had only a very bad day or you played at the false casino with a veryx low payout% ?

 

[ergopro]

I've been playing RTG slots for years...and have hit big twice.
Needless to say, those occasions I had a max.cashout involved.
Other than that, it's difficult to even get past my deposit amount. RTG's a no-go these days for me.

 

[AudiManinBoro]

If you hadent have won those 2 randoms tho mike would you still feel the same? " nice jackpots would probably colour my world a nice rosy colour as well lol

 

[kakata]

If you hadent have won those 2 randoms tho mike would you still feel the same? " nice jackpots would probably colour my world a nice rosy colour as well lol

I was goin to ask him the very same question.......lol.
I too won the random..............and that was it.
A gambler doesnt have to rely on a RJ, thats not an everyday chance.
I would expect to win or have a chance to win also withouth it...............it's IMPOSSIBLE.............believe me it is.
I gave back all the money I won plus.
I have been playing 20 and 40c, which means a billion spins.
IMO,based as I said, on a lot of spins, there is no way you can win unless you hit a RJ.
One more thing I always want to ask...............Whats all about "new lobby will be installed" do they have something NEW 3-4 times a day?????
And what a coincidence after that 'the dead'

 

[AudiManinBoro]

I supose it would depend on how big a jackpot you hit really. Mike has had some really nice wins, dont know how he does it lol But i have to admit i never seem to get anywhere with RTG casinos either, tho ive hardly used them a lot im usualy always MG i shall struggle on for a bit tho just to see.

 

[kakata]

anyway,I also gave it a try at clubworld, same s*tory.
Dont even try to committ the SIN of trying being smart going up and down with your amount bet.....youll get killed right there.
Those weird, odd, strange, spins goin faster and than slower at times,..like, (read).(we are thinking about it), drive me crazy.
Do they really think we are a bunch of retards?
They should give us a little more respect.
They make theyr living out of our money.

 

[Mike031]

If you hadent have won those 2 randoms tho mike would you still feel the same? " nice jackpots would probably colour my world a nice rosy colour as well lol

That's now certainly nonsense, because, if you've looked at the winnerscreenshots at the past, you could also see, that i've got more big wins!

As an example, with a $ 5 bet i get about $ 2,000 from free spins on "tigers treasure" on bodog and the next example is, that i've got on iNetBet with a $ 2 bet the 5 princess with a substitute during the free spins on aladdin's wishes, so this was exactly $ 2,000 with only one hit!
then i've very often fulfiled the WR on iNetBet's "Tempting Tuesday" (75% bonus) and also the 50% mistery bonus ($ 150 all incl.) and could very often cashout more then the double amount, so it have nothing to do with my 2 jackpots, because this is now only 2 months ago, but i had also luck before and i play now from november/dezember 2006.

anyway,I also gave it a try at clubworld, same s*tory.

Ok, i can understand this very well, because their payout% really sucks!

I've lost there also about $ 4,000 without any big win, or something spectacular bonus rounds!

 

[kakata]

That's now certainly nonsense, because, if you've looked at the winnerscreenshots at the past, you could also see, that i've got more big wins!

As an example, with a $ 5 bet i get about $ 2,000 from free spins on "tigers treasure" on bodog and the next example is, that i've got on iNetBet with a $ 2 bet the 5 princess with a substitute during the free spins on aladdin's wishes, so this was exactly $ 2,000 with only one hit!
then i've very often fulfiled the WR on iNetBet's "Tempting Tuesday" (75% bonus) and also the 50% mistery bonus ($ 150 all incl.) and could very often cashout more then the double amount, so it have nothing to do with my 2 jackpots, because this is now only 2 months ago, but i had also luck before and i play now from november/dezember 2006.



Ok, i can understand this very well, because their payout% really sucks!

I've lost there also about $ 4,000 without any big win, or something spectacular bonus rounds!

Im not wishing you bad luck, but I will do like the old chinese say..........sit on the river edge and wait.............

 

[silkprint]

and that's gambling ...
If you aren't doing well then break for a while . That's what I do .

 

[Mike031]

I've never said, that i've never lost also something, but i've also won enough, so it's very equal.

 

[kakata]

and that's gambling ...
If you aren't doing well then break for a while . That's what I do .

Exactly what im goin to do.
Im goin to buy a nice used van,which I will use to go back an forth, and I will go to the land based casinos,(10 miles away) where I wont have depositing and most of all cashing out problem.
On line doesnt pay......believe me it doesnt.
Good luck to all of you guys ...especially to cinthia(not gambling related)
I ll stick around thou.
BYE

kakata

 

[LaurieJim]

anyway,I also gave it a try at clubworld, same s*tory.
Dont even try to committ the SIN of trying being smart going up and down with your amount bet.....youll get killed right there.
Those weird, odd, strange, spins goin faster and than slower at times,..like, (read).(we are thinking about it), drive me crazy.
Do they really think we are a bunch of retards?
They should give us a little more respect.
They make theyr living out of our money.

ive slowed down on rtg games from going at it strong till now im at a snails pace. what used to be my 750.00 a week habit has now gone down to 100.00 a week if that much.just want to make sure ill get my money if i do hit another r/j so im playing it close to the vest . good luck to all!!!

 

[babs7262]

resorted to fun play

RTG is getting so bad that im only playing for fun. both club world and Inet wont give me a morsel of hope let alone a w/d.

Im getting sick of this. It's not sour grapes either...Im not looking for the million, but some bonus spins adding up to more than $6 would be nice

 

[kakata]

RTG is getting so bad that im only playing for fun. both club world and Inet wont give me a morsel of hope let alone a w/d.

Im getting sick of this. It's not sour grapes either...Im not looking for the million, but some bonus spins adding up to more than $6 would be nice

thats what I was looking for...........not even that.
They want all the money possible.........maybe due to possible closing down theyr enterprises.