- Joined
- May 8, 2018
- Location
- south east england
I won't waste my time typing the many, many positives of the EU, nor that the laws of the EU were in almost every single case approved by the EU's elected members, and that we were at the top of the table throughout.
I will simply put it this way; the Brexit campaign was based on lies and run by liars. Liars who have variously been found in contempt of parliament, have links to Russian oligarchs, who run hedge funds who will benefit massively from us crashing out without trade deals, based on a referendum which had no legal force and has been found to have been gamed from the start by foreign actors. The current government has only this morning told people they should return to working in offices at the height of a pandemic, simply to protect the economy, not out of any change in the medical advice. Their own medical advisor said only yesterday there is no reason to amend the work from home advice. Johnson this morning said "We listen to advice, but we make the decisions."
And you put your trust in this shower.
You Brexiteers can own this. If it works out, great. I'll be shocked, but I'll be happy.
But admit it to yourself; the course is insanity. Steer away from the right-wing media, look directly at reports from international sources. We're a fucking laughing stock of a nation with a currency now being treated as that of an emerging nation.
I did say that I don't have massive faith in our leaders and decision makers to deliver on their goals/speeches, but the brexit vote was not about that. It's two sets of politicians making laws, one you can theoretically control/directly influence through democracy and the other you cannot.
I bet if every country had a referendum you'd be surprised at the results, Poland has just re-elected a president who's not exactly the biggest fan of the EU. And it's only going to grow if the EU go down their United states of europe road, [which influential people like verhofstadt push for] centralising more power from the various member states.
It could be that the EU has been blamed for things that the UK govt could have handled differently/better, either in the veto stage or implementation. [due to incompetence or not being bothered]