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So what your really saying then is really a standard 12 spin bonus with no pre win is worth 86.4x average, but in reality its worth even less and that just dont seem to be the case, which implies the math model is different, as I strongly suspect :)

I did not work on the game so wouldn't know and no one does :(
 
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The only thing we know for sure is that in order to hit 96% RTP buys have to pay an average of 86.4x back. Since you go straight into a 12 spin bonus every time with a starting win of 0 that has to mean all 86.4x is coming from those 12 spins (+ any retriggers).

Now again I don't know this but this is what people say. Bonanza bonuses are not predetermined but each spin is random. Assuming that is accurate then yes BTG could use different weighted reels for their buys vs spun in bonuses. But it seems more likely they are the same reels.

EG: Natural GOLD with no tumble start with 0 win, 12 spins. That should pay on average 86.4x because the setup is exactly like a bought bonus.

Technically it would be possible to track this if you noted specifically every 0 start win natural bonus though it's a lot of effort to prove something that isn't really all that important anyway.

The extra juice comes from the times where you're tumbling in wins beforehand or start with more spins.

From my data so far I have had 34 bonuses that were natural GOLD (+ 1 natural GOLD+5 which I have removed). Now I know that some of these will have paid a bit before but obviously tumbled GOLD will always pay something or it couldn't have tumbled while natural can (and more often is) straight in with 0 win.


So 34 natural bonuses have paid an average 89.7x.

Meanwhile I've had 67 tumbled in bonuses which includes +5. Those have paid 107.4x on average.

I know it's a small sample but the pattern that is starting to show from that is natural bonuses pay less because they are only ever 12 spins and more likely to have 0 or very small pre bonus wins. It's already quite close the the 86.4x buy figure and is probably explained away by pre bonus wins on the naturals that I haven't noted but will surely have happened.

I'll start to keep track of prebonus wins to get a better picture of this though.
 
I was able to go back and see where I had taken screenshots of bonuses triggering. Not that many but a couple to mention at least.

What really stands out is this. The 13 naturals I have data for 12 were 0x, 1 paid 6x.

For the tumbles I've got 22 entries. The average win on a tumbled bonus is 6.9x. As I always round down so a 4.9x win would only be listed as 4x the actual number is going to be a bit higher.

Then the final point is that a bought bonus will always be an average of 12.0000 spins because you simply can't start with more.

Meanwhile across all 103 bonuses the average start spin I'm getting is 12.58. So every bonus is getting over half a spin extra on average which will be bumping up the average X.

All that being said I can see a world where the reels used for a bought vs spun in bonus are the same. The only reason the average wins are different is due to what happens before the bonus starts.
 
I get what your saying and agree with most of it, I meant the same in a round about way. In some ways I regret not tracking the pre win amount on features, however mathematically and for arguments sake it’s all part of the same game round.

But also however even the buy ones, although can’t start with pre wins or more than the 12 they do have to allow for the retriggers, which as you rightly say puts the average up so you have to ask yourself where does that extra RTP get accounted for as it can’t charge you more, and even only a few extra x average would make it worth more than you pay for buys so there has to be some difference.

Let’s say over long period those retriggers on buys are worth an extra 5x ( by my data on normal bonuses show extra 9x on average last time I checked on just one retrigger ) but let’s just say 5x as that not unreasonable so this would now add to the 86.4x we know about, making it actually a winning proposition which we both no will not be the case so I feel there is either something being tweaked on the buy version, or most likely there are not the same feature parameters of buy vs natural.

I have to be careful what I say as I’m under NDA’s but would love to explain how at least one provider was doing bonus buys and it’s totally not what you would even imagine.
 
Well yes sure but at the same time you can retrigger in a bought bonus and a regular one. We have no way to know if the odds of said retrigger are identical in both situations.

Likewise the extra payouts from retriggers will already be accounted for in the expected average.

So say you never got a retrigger on a bought bonus you only got an 81x average. You need the retrigger bonuses to cover that extra 5x.

But you are right, I haven't got any real idea this is purely speculation based on the numbers available. I wouldn't at all be surprised to hear it's completely different. It's unfortunate as the numbers all line up to sell the story that makes sense but maybe it's just a red herring.

Also from my small sample I've had 9 retrigger bonuses that started as 12 spins (so 17 total). The average win on them so far is only 77x. I'm obviously running very poorly on them and can't really make a meaningful comparison. Meanwhile my 12 spin start no retrigger bonuses (85 of them) are at 101x average.

So basically as of now when I see a retrigger I should expect a worse outcome haha
 
Sounds similar to what I just witnessed.

103x in, all gone in 10 and a half minutes. WTF

The game just pooped out 33% RTP giving me just 154 spins from my 103x deposit.

I don't think I've ever had a deposit go as fast and poorly as that. No tease, biggest win a 5x. Holy shit.
 
Honestly, the past months most of my sessions on other slots have been like that.

I lost over 30 deposits (always relatively small ones mind you) in a row in a week or so and am on a break now. All my deposit limits are on €10/week so it's useless to even deposit. On a couple of deposits I would get ahead but then the next game would destroy my balance. There comes a point where it's not fun anymore.
 
Honestly, the past months most of my sessions on other slots have been like that.

I lost over 30 deposits (always relatively small ones mind you) in a row in a week or so and am on a break now. All my deposit limits are on €10/week so it's useless to even deposit. On a couple of deposits I would get ahead but then the next game would destroy my balance. There comes a point where it's not fun anymore.
You just gotta know what time of day to play mate!!!

I can assure everybody here that since my max win on Buffalo King MW’s nobody has run as poorly as I have.

I had a few days break, before trying again after that 6k hit.

I withdre th 6k immediately and credit to ladbrokes/coral I had it in my account within minutes. Leaving myself £400 odd to play with. Tried a few other prags for features which delivered for small losses so no problem.

Unfortunately I then moved onto the original dog house with about £300 left. Started at 60p nothing for about a ton, raised to 80p nothing for another ton and then raised to a quid for whatever I had left and again bust out with no feature. Ok fair enough annoying but let’s just leave slotting alone and take a break after that nice win which incidentally was about 3 years in the making and a bucket load of losses to get it.

So I return a few days later feeling refreshed and return to dog house. A couple of quick festures that produce nothing and then here comes the pragmatic protect mode. Jeez it then goes absolutely horrific.

£1,218 to finally feature again on a quid stake. Which agsin produces nothing. Then £300 in on top to feature again which does about 50x before it finally starts featuring as per normal but eventually drains the balance. I’ve no choice but to leave as I know I have the funds to raise and go more in but the way it’s playing would be a suicidal move.

Let’s try bonanza on tilt.

£1500 on £2 stake for not a single feature so raise to £4 and £1900 in it finally drops and retriggers. I’m thinking just give me £500 and I’ll fuck off. Here is the result….. you can imagine the language and absolute fucking rage.

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Quit at the 2 grand loss mark to go get in a drunken mess.

So more than half my max win gone (over 3k in total) to get one bonus on dog house and one bonus on bonanza.

Fucking disgraceful.

And just to add insult to injury I’ve just gone £300 in this morning on the same bonanza to hit a bonus on 80p to hit this…….

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Fuck off and fuck off.
 
You just gotta know what time of day to play mate!!!

I can assure everybody here that since my max win on Buffalo King MW’s nobody has run as poorly as I have.

I had a few days break, before trying again after that 6k hit.

I withdre th 6k immediately and credit to ladbrokes/coral I had it in my account within minutes. Leaving myself £400 odd to play with. Tried a few other prags for features which delivered for small losses so no problem.

Unfortunately I then moved onto the original dog house with about £300 left. Started at 60p nothing for about a ton, raised to 80p nothing for another ton and then raised to a quid for whatever I had left and again bust out with no feature. Ok fair enough annoying but let’s just leave slotting alone and take a break after that nice win which incidentally was about 3 years in the making and a bucket load of losses to get it.

So I return a few days later feeling refreshed and return to dog house. A couple of quick festures that produce nothing and then here comes the pragmatic protect mode. Jeez it then goes absolutely horrific.

£1,218 to finally feature again on a quid stake. Which agsin produces nothing. Then £300 in on top to feature again which does about 50x before it finally starts featuring as per normal but eventually drains the balance. I’ve no choice but to leave as I know I have the funds to raise and go more in but the way it’s playing would be a suicidal move.

Let’s try bonanza on tilt.

£1500 on £2 stake for not a single feature so raise to £4 and £1900 in it finally drops and retriggers. I’m thinking just give me £500 and I’ll fuck off. Here is the result….. you can imagine the language and absolute fucking rage.

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Quit at the 2 grand loss mark to go get in a drunken mess.

So more than half my max win gone (over 3k in total) to get one bonus on dog house and one bonus on bonanza.

Fucking disgraceful.

And just to add insult to injury I’ve just gone £300 in this morning on the same bonanza to hit a bonus on 80p to hit this…….

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Fuck off and fuck off.
Thats fucking rough as fuck not gonna lie

Complete eye opener to.

Fuck BTG and Bonanza now lol ill stick with DOA :D
 
You just gotta know what time of day to play mate!!!

I can assure everybody here that since my max win on Buffalo King MW’s nobody has run as poorly as I have.

I had a few days break, before trying again after that 6k hit.

I withdre th 6k immediately and credit to ladbrokes/coral I had it in my account within minutes. Leaving myself £400 odd to play with. Tried a few other prags for features which delivered for small losses so no problem.

Unfortunately I then moved onto the original dog house with about £300 left. Started at 60p nothing for about a ton, raised to 80p nothing for another ton and then raised to a quid for whatever I had left and again bust out with no feature. Ok fair enough annoying but let’s just leave slotting alone and take a break after that nice win which incidentally was about 3 years in the making and a bucket load of losses to get it.

So I return a few days later feeling refreshed and return to dog house. A couple of quick festures that produce nothing and then here comes the pragmatic protect mode. Jeez it then goes absolutely horrific.

£1,218 to finally feature again on a quid stake. Which agsin produces nothing. Then £300 in on top to feature again which does about 50x before it finally starts featuring as per normal but eventually drains the balance. I’ve no choice but to leave as I know I have the funds to raise and go more in but the way it’s playing would be a suicidal move.

Let’s try bonanza on tilt.

£1500 on £2 stake for not a single feature so raise to £4 and £1900 in it finally drops and retriggers. I’m thinking just give me £500 and I’ll fuck off. Here is the result….. you can imagine the language and absolute fucking rage.

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Quit at the 2 grand loss mark to go get in a drunken mess.

So more than half my max win gone (over 3k in total) to get one bonus on dog house and one bonus on bonanza.

Fucking disgraceful.

And just to add insult to injury I’ve just gone £300 in this morning on the same bonanza to hit a bonus on 80p to hit this…….

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Fuck off and fuck off.

Holy moly.

And I thought I went on a downswing of epic proportions. I'm 100% certain if I bonused on my last spin at £4 at only got 6x I'd break something.

Thankfully I am able to stop myself betting more than £1 because I know it's such a slippery slop when you start. If it eats £2000 at high bets it's like well £1 bets can't get it back so I gotta keep betting high and so the cycle continues.
 
started a Bonanza session and on spin #63 got the GOLD (3375 megaways), reels 3,4,5,6. trigger paid 0

spin #1 872 megaways... multiplier goes to x2 with a 3OAK micro win blue gems.

spin #2 1296 megaways.. multiplier goes to x3 with a 2ways of 3OAK micro win queens.

spin #3 972 megaways... multiplier goes to x4 with a 3OAK micro win blue gems.

spin #4 3600 megaways... multiplier goes to x5 with a 4ways 4OAK red gems. (there was a red gem on reel 6 but if a red gem or wild had been also on reel 5 it would have paid 120x instead of 32x)

spin #5 11025 megaways... multiplier goes to x6 with a 3OAK ten's and queens. and then multiplier goes to x7 with a 4OAK Jacks.

spin #6 120 megaways... dead spin

spin #7 1800 megaways... multiplier goes to x8 with a 3OAK win Jacks.

spin #8 2520 megaways... dead spin

spin #9 14000 megaways... dead spin

spin #10 972 megaways... dead spin

spin #11 2160 megaways... dead spin

spin #12 1620 megaways... dead spin

total paid 40.6x
 
Feels like forever since I had any sort of semi decent hit. To be fair before this bonus 8 of my last 9 had all paid under 100x.

Entain blocked my accounts (claim it's because it's while they're investigating my complaint hmm...)

So I tried out midnite casino for the first time. Put in £50 to give it a try and got pretty lucky that's for sure. I wonder how much of a ballache it will be to try to withdraw this.

Edit: Guess the answer is not at all. Deposited using the Trustly online banking thing. Withdrew using that and it hit my bank account pretty much instantly. Good to know.

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You just gotta know what time of day to play mate!!!

I can assure everybody here that since my max win on Buffalo King MW’s nobody has run as poorly as I have.

I had a few days break, before trying again after that 6k hit.

I withdre th 6k immediately and credit to ladbrokes/coral I had it in my account within minutes. Leaving myself £400 odd to play with. Tried a few other prags for features which delivered for small losses so no problem.

Unfortunately I then moved onto the original dog house with about £300 left. Started at 60p nothing for about a ton, raised to 80p nothing for another ton and then raised to a quid for whatever I had left and again bust out with no feature. Ok fair enough annoying but let’s just leave slotting alone and take a break after that nice win which incidentally was about 3 years in the making and a bucket load of losses to get it.

So I return a few days later feeling refreshed and return to dog house. A couple of quick festures that produce nothing and then here comes the pragmatic protect mode. Jeez it then goes absolutely horrific.

£1,218 to finally feature again on a quid stake. Which agsin produces nothing. Then £300 in on top to feature again which does about 50x before it finally starts featuring as per normal but eventually drains the balance. I’ve no choice but to leave as I know I have the funds to raise and go more in but the way it’s playing would be a suicidal move.

Let’s try bonanza on tilt.

£1500 on £2 stake for not a single feature so raise to £4 and £1900 in it finally drops and retriggers. I’m thinking just give me £500 and I’ll fuck off. Here is the result….. you can imagine the language and absolute fucking rage.

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Quit at the 2 grand loss mark to go get in a drunken mess.

So more than half my max win gone (over 3k in total) to get one bonus on dog house and one bonus on bonanza.

Fucking disgraceful.

And just to add insult to injury I’ve just gone £300 in this morning on the same bonanza to hit a bonus on 80p to hit this…….

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Fuck off and fuck off.

Wow! That’s some seriously rough shit! How your mouse, keyboard, monitor or anything else to hand isn’t smashed to bits is impressive!

I feel your pain on that one for sure. Brutal.
 
You just gotta know what time of day to play mate!!!

I can assure everybody here that since my max win on Buffalo King MW’s nobody has run as poorly as I have.

I had a few days break, before trying again after that 6k hit.

I withdre th 6k immediately and credit to ladbrokes/coral I had it in my account within minutes. Leaving myself £400 odd to play with. Tried a few other prags for features which delivered for small losses so no problem.

Unfortunately I then moved onto the original dog house with about £300 left. Started at 60p nothing for about a ton, raised to 80p nothing for another ton and then raised to a quid for whatever I had left and again bust out with no feature. Ok fair enough annoying but let’s just leave slotting alone and take a break after that nice win which incidentally was about 3 years in the making and a bucket load of losses to get it.

So I return a few days later feeling refreshed and return to dog house. A couple of quick festures that produce nothing and then here comes the pragmatic protect mode. Jeez it then goes absolutely horrific.

£1,218 to finally feature again on a quid stake. Which agsin produces nothing. Then £300 in on top to feature again which does about 50x before it finally starts featuring as per normal but eventually drains the balance. I’ve no choice but to leave as I know I have the funds to raise and go more in but the way it’s playing would be a suicidal move.

Let’s try bonanza on tilt.

£1500 on £2 stake for not a single feature so raise to £4 and £1900 in it finally drops and retriggers. I’m thinking just give me £500 and I’ll fuck off. Here is the result….. you can imagine the language and absolute fucking rage.

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Quit at the 2 grand loss mark to go get in a drunken mess.

So more than half my max win gone (over 3k in total) to get one bonus on dog house and one bonus on bonanza.

Fucking disgraceful.

And just to add insult to injury I’ve just gone £300 in this morning on the same bonanza to hit a bonus on 80p to hit this…….

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Fuck off and fuck off.

Somewhere between midnight and 23.59?

This story is all too familiar and I think most, if not all, gamblers have been there. Have a huge win, think it'll happen again or at least with the funds available if you chase hard enough you'll get it back and eventually you're at square zero.

That's why, in the event I have a win that I consider really good, I always set my deposit limits really low so there's little to no incentive to play for a couple of days at least. Over here it takes 72hrs after upping them before they go into effect so you're at the very least 3 days later.
 
Bad bonus and out of nowhere

Pretty sure this is my first ever 5OAK purples in a bonus, still waiting on 6OAK. My god do they pay for next to nothing at all though holy!

Also just want to point out since I've posted some decent back to back hits that Bonanza did eat £2000 in a day and a half last week so I'm still down a shitload overall, just not quite as bad now.

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Somewhere between midnight and 23.59?

This story is all too familiar and I think most, if not all, gamblers have been there. Have a huge win, think it'll happen again or at least with the funds available if you chase hard enough you'll get it back and eventually you're at square zero.

That's why, in the event I have a win that I consider really good, I always set my deposit limits really low so there's little to no incentive to play for a couple of days at least. Over here it takes 72hrs after upping them before they go into effect so you're at the very least 3 days later.
I’m old enough and ugly enough to know that big wins are rare as hell.

Obv my experience after my decent hit is incredibly brutal and of course admittedly I went in (to bonanza) on a higher than normal stake (£2) on complete tilt because of the dog house brains.

Of course it went as worse as possible……. Well because it fucking would do wouldn’t it?? That’s the gambling gods in full force.

Me going almost 1000x and over 1000x to get a feature in the dog house case is nothing new. I’ve stated on here before how I just don’t get how this doesn’t happen to others? Whether it be all in one session for those who have the funds or over a period of time using multiple deposits. Many games are capable of it unfortunately.

The timing of these 2 bad beats is particularly difficult to deal with obviously. Feels like a punishment. But Is of course horrific bad luck after a 3 year chase to finally nab a max win on something.

All part of the roller coaster.
 
Thats my bonanza for the month

And this is on Slotstemple - first ever time playing it, another dogshit casino - every bonus on every slot all dog shit lol...
 

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I’m old enough and ugly enough to know that big wins are rare as hell.

Obv my experience after my decent hit is incredibly brutal and of course admittedly I went in (to bonanza) on a higher than normal stake (£2) on complete tilt because of the dog house brains.

Of course it went as worse as possible……. Well because it fucking would do wouldn’t it?? That’s the gambling gods in full force.

Me going almost 1000x and over 1000x to get a feature in the dog house case is nothing new. I’ve stated on here before how I just don’t get how this doesn’t happen to others? Whether it be all in one session for those who have the funds or over a period of time using multiple deposits. Many games are capable of it unfortunately.

The timing of these 2 bad beats is particularly difficult to deal with obviously. Feels like a punishment. But Is of course horrific bad luck after a 3 year chase to finally nab a max win on something.

All part of the roller coaster.
what you think about dazza's most recent Bonanza video, he starts on 500, ends on 2500.40
gets down to about 240 at 48minutes and gets rescued by a 31x base win then at 50minutes gets a 112.5x base win, then at 54minutes gets a GOLD 12 spinner and pays 425.2x, then at 59 minutes gets another GOLD 12 spinner, pays 183.35x. balance onto 3106.40.
 
what you think about dazza's most recent Bonanza video, he starts on 500, ends on 2500.40
gets down to about 240 at 48minutes and gets rescued by a 31x base win then at 50minutes gets a 112.5x base win, then at 54minutes gets a GOLD 12 spinner and pays 425.2x, then at 59 minutes gets another GOLD 12 spinner, pays 183.35x. balance onto 3106.40.
The blokes a cunt is what I think. Still cashing out thousands from a 62.5x deposit a couple of months ago. According to his videos that is.

Shock.
 
I don't watch the videos as I don't need to feel depressed.

But I'd be curious if he plays the same site always if he published his figures for the month or whatever to see how good he's actually running.
 
I don't watch the videos as I don't need to feel depressed.

But I'd be curious if he plays the same site always if he published his figures for the month or whatever to see how good he's actually running.

I don’t think he’s ever posted publicly where he plays, not sure why he feels the need to hide that tbh.
 
I had to take a look what profit dazza gee is in according to all those Bonanza/Christmas bonanza videos he uploaded to youtube so far this year.

69 videos, those videos show him to be in profit by just over 11k. 140 features, avg of 2.03 features per video.
total duration of those 69 videos is 69 hours, 44 minutes, and 56 seconds.
profit per hour; £157.74.
new profit peaks reached session 5, 6, 15, 16, 18, 21, 24, 26, 45, 47, 48, 51, 65, 69.

average win; £913.51 (26 wins), average loss; £344.57 (37 losses), 6 times break even.
average starting balance; £369.57

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Wtf haha

What bet size does he use?

That graph looks like something you'd see a poker player have. The more sessions he has the more he makes? There's no shot that's actually all his spins.
he does £4 spins unless it's at end of a session where he has less than £4 balance or he has made a profit and wants to make it clean.

when he starts with 250 quid, thats 62.5 units and gets at least one feature in 29 of 38 sessions.
when he starts with 500 quid, thats 125 units and gets at least one feature in 26 of 29 sessions.
when he starts with 750 quid, thats 187.5 units and had 2 features per session in 2 of 2 sessions.
 
I see

So if we say he has average feature luck it's something like 64,400 spins done.

£4 bets that's £257,600 wagered. He's in profit almost to the £1 £11,000. To achieve that he's had to run at 104.27% RTP over those 64k spins.

I mean anything is possible but Bonanza strikes me as 1 of the few games that is way too good at sticking to theoretical in the long run. There's no hope of a max win to massively skew results. As such the more you spin the more you're going to line up with the advertised RTP.
 
if we take out those 6 sessions he did on Christmas Bonanza, then his Bonanza profit is £12.5K , he lost all 6 sessions on Christmas Bonanza (6 x £250), and then we see he had 63 sessions on Bonanza, 137 features, (avg of 2.17 per session). average starting balance £380.95, average win £913.51 (26 wins), average loss £362.88 (31 losses), 6 break evens.

out of the 63 sessions on Bonanza, only 7 times where he got 0 features (11.11%).


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my latest Bonanza bonus

spin #1 5400 megaways... dead spin

spin #2 11760 megaways.. dead spin

spin #3 5184 megaways... multiplier goes to x2 with a 3OAK micro win jacks.

spin #4 6000 megaways... dead spin

spin #5 3840 megaways... dead spin

spin #6 5400 megaways... multiplier goes to x3 with a 4 ways 4OAK Jacks.

spin #7 1728 megaways... dead spin

spin #8 8640 megaways... multiplier goes to x4 with a 4 ways 3OAK green gems.

spin #9 5184 megaways... multiplier goes to x5 with a 3OAK red gems .

spin #10 3600 megaways... multiplier goes to x6 with a 6 ways 3OAK aces and 2 ways 2OAK blue gems . then multiplier goes to x7 with 3OAK green gems.

in this spin had there been a diamond on reel 1 it would have paid 2 ways 4OAK diamonds thus a 100x for those diamonds. but reel 1 only had A,A, blue gem, A.


spin #11 2880 megaways... dead spin

spin #12 810 megaways... multiplier goes to x8 with 4OAK queens and then multiplier goes to x9 with 2 ways 4OAK 9's.

total paid 25.1x
 

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