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Cashed out 400 last night but best thing is I'm over being hooked. Week off was best thing ever.

Now if i play I chuck 10 or 20 and if busy turn off and if I do win like last night it makes me stop even quicker as I know chance of repeating wins is zero. Since I drop in and out every few days it feels more random. Rather than playing it daily for hours realising what a filthy slot it is
 
nutnut said:
Cashed out 400 last night but best thing is I'm over being hooked. Week off was best thing ever.

Now if i play I chuck 10 or 20 and if busy turn off and if I do win like last night it makes me stop even quicker as I know chance of repeating wins is zero. Since I drop in and out every few days it feels more random. Rather than playing it daily for hours realising what a filthy slot it is
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I was going to say this the other day, having played it less for the last month, I was able to tell more easily if it was playing badly and I had better results. I found if you play it everyday you lose your bearings, it is a very 'intensely addictive' slot so I think the safest and most enjoyable way of playing it is in short doses and maybe only once or twice a week.

Plus if your ahead with a good win, it is easier to have a little go now and then and leave, but when I was thousands down I had the urge to chase my losses on it [playing on after getting a reasonable bonus only for bonanza to take it straight back]. And with a game that has a bonus frequency of 1 in 450, that's not a wise idea.
 
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Makes me wince how much I've lost on the likes of Bonanza recently, having taken a step back and looking at it objectively (coupled with a two-month slot banishment) I'd much rather focus on my first love, namely video games/ computing than spend £100 chasing some mythical D, only to be rogered with a substandard bonus round :cool:

I love the game of course, but it sucks you in where losing on it becomes normalized. That is BTG's biggest strength I feel, although playing it long enough will inevitably end with the player either out of pocket or fed up with it!

I daren't calculate how much I'm quids- in by not playing it for what seems an eternity :laugh:
 
goatwack said:
Makes me wince how much I've lost on the likes of Bonanza recently, having taken a step back and looking at it objectively (coupled with a two-month slot banishment) I'd much rather focus on my first love, namely video games/ computing than spend £100 chasing some mythical D, only to be rogered with a substandard bonus round :cool:

I love the game of course, but it sucks you in where losing on it becomes normalized. That is BTG's biggest strength I feel, although playing it long enough will inevitably end with the player either out of pocket or fed up with it!

I daren't calculate how much I'm quids- in by not playing it for what seems an eternity :laugh:
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me too, I'm battening down the hatches with my slot play, going to restrict myself for about 5 months. I could have had a new top of the range pc rather than the 4gig ram, dual core intel I'm still using.

In the future when I come back to slots I might up the stake level but reduce the number or length of sessions, low rolling for hours you can lose a substantial amount of money while at the same time never really having much of a chance of increasing your balance.

I might go back to an idea of doing say 50 spins at minimum and then increasing the stake, did this on book of ra once and I got a 500x win not long after raising my stake to 80p [an unheard of level of risk for me normally]
 
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goatwack said:
I do believe the BTG rep just said that free spins could go on indefinitely :laugh::what::laugh:
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Probably just a fail safe incase it rolls in a win over 20,000x, then waiting on whatever comes first - continuously retriggering the fs until either the casino itself closes to the public or the lucky player dies naturally.
 
Any of you Carol Voderman maths brains please explain how I just won £170 from a screen of 10's in a cascade I would never have thought a cascade of 10s would pay so much with no multiplier as not playing free spins.
Bonanza1.webp
 
nikantw said:
It is time for the final verdict on the question: What is the potential of Bonanza?

Some if not most think it has jackpot-like potential, but that is not true.
Officially best and only answer was "your chance of a huge win is the same as Donald Trump becoming the next Pope".

Mathematically it is proven that any wins over 14000x are so rare that they have no real impact on the RTP.
All casinos have been reassured by BTG that a monster win will never happen (I wonder how they can make sure of that).

Blueprint uses the same math on its Megaways and is more honest about it with a cap on 5000x win. This means that in Bonanza also any wins over 5000x are extremely rare.
Latest BTG interview: "Donuts has bigger potential than Bonanza".

After all that it is safe to say that the true potential of Bonanza is only 5000x.

If you are looking for something bigger you should play another slot.
Enough is enough with the half-truths and the vague misleading statements. UKGC and MGA should force them to tell the truth about the odds for a specific win.
At least we should provide that info here at CM. If BTG wants they can say what the odds are for a specific win over 5000x. No more vague misleading statements or jokes.
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Or I could be wrong by 100%.
VS has the cap on Diamond Mine at 2,500x bet win! That means, the chance for any win over 2,500x is so small that it doesn't affect the RTP, otherwise what VS does would be illegal.
Now it is probably safe to assume Diamond Mine has the same math with Bonanza. That would mean that the true potential of Bonanza is only 2,500x.

Unless VS is accidentally doing something illegal.
 
nikantw said:
Or I could be wrong by 100%.
VS has the cap on Diamond Mine at 2,500x bet win! That means, the chance for any win over 2,500x is so small that it doesn't affect the RTP, otherwise what VS does would be illegal.
Now it is probably safe to assume Diamond Mine has the same math with Bonanza. That would mean that the true potential of Bonanza is only 2,500x.

Unless VS is accidentally doing something illegal.
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Hmmm...

2500x - Whats the point in creating the slot then? Has the Rep from VS explained why this has been capped?

I'm rather interested in this. Why can you lose 2500x but not win more than that?

Nate
 
Nate said:
Hmmm...

2500x - Whats the point in creating the slot then? Has the Rep from VS explained why this has been capped?

I'm rather interested in this. Why can you lose 2500x but not win more than that?

Nate
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I asked. He said the numbers were given by the provider.
The cap is obviously a way to have bigger bet size than Bonanza (and manage their risk at the same time).
This is the best and only way for us to get an idea of the odds for a 2500x win.

Why make it? Bacause they can hide the odds and get everybody playing it. ;)
 
nutnut said:
hit a £200 withdrawal on 40p spin with 22 spins this morning. given had x14 multi with 10 spins left it did its usual of 9 dead spins so little disappointed. but clear over 1k last 3 days between bonanza and mostly sports betting so my luck has defo been used for next few months.
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This time tomorrow?
 
I have some news. Turns out the assumption "UKGC cares about the RTP stated being the correct one" is false. They don't.

According to trance (you can read about it in the VS thread) casinos can cap the payouts without any limitations, as long as they say that they do. UKGC doesn't think players need to know how much this affects the RTP.

When a casino deals with UKGC apparently it goes like this:
Casino - I found a way for the games to pay lower RTP than the one the lab said. Is it ok?
UKGC - Totaly fine dude. Just find a way to say it without actually saying it.
Casino - I also let them think they can win over 500,000 when they can't win more than 30k.
UKGC - I don't care. Make sure you ask them all for SOW though.

What this has to do with Bonanza.
Turns out the cap on Diamond Mine payouts may or may not have an affect on the RTP.
But although UKGC lets them do whatever they want, I don't think they would go too far. Besides, I am tired of this "hide the truth" game about the Megaways slots.

So this is what I believe we should do:
1) Consider it a fact that true potential of Bonanza is only 2,500x.
2) Boycott any slot that has a cap on its payouts.
 
Bonanza isn't capped though unless the casino has a cap on all their games having a maximum payout, not sure if any do? There is the soft cap where the reels change at a multiplier over 50x that was mentioned a couple hundred pages back in this thread, but not sure if anyone has ever actually seen that happen?

Diamond Mine is capped at 10,000x or £250,000 whichever happens first, I think it's safe to assume the 10,000x cap is accounted for in the 96.39% RTP shown, the effect on RTP of the other cap is very likely small enough to disappear in rounding since RTP is only given with 2 decimals. I do agree though they should have left it at the 10,000x cap, if they don't like someone winning £1M they can just lower the max bet.

Don't really have a problem with games having a cap on payouts as long as it's in the rules, it gives more options for game developers to add high potential features. Much better than not having a cap and then designing a game with a max win of 400x.
 
Jono777 said:
Didn't someone post a screenshot of a £972.00 win on a 0.20p bet in the past 3-4 weeks?

Well over 2,500x if I didn't dream it :p
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Maybe. I don't care. :p
I am so tired of this "hide and seek" game with BTG and casino reps about slot potential and odds.
I must have asked over 100 times for Bonanza's potential.
After all this time, I only care about what is really possible, hard to get but doable.
What am I supposed to think when I see a cap on Diamond Mine at 2,500x?

Edit...
Dan just confirmed that the chance for a win over 2,500 in Diamond Mine is almost impossible.
I choose to believe him, so......
 
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nikantw said:
I have some news. Turns out the assumption "UKGC cares about the RTP stated being the correct one" is false. They don't.
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I always seeing you ragging on the UKGC. Are you actually gambling in UKGC jurisdictions? Why is win capping and the effects on RTP a UKGC problem only? What do Curacao do? What about Malta?
 
slotter999 said:
I always seeing you ragging on the UKGC. Are you actually gambling in UKGC jurisdictions? Why is win capping and the effects on RTP a UKGC problem only? What do Curacao do? What about Malta?
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I actually consider them one of the best. I do believe their heart is in the right place.
It is not raging. I don't hate them or anything. I point out things that need improvement, things I find important, things people don't know...

My goal is better regulations. If we raise a voice here they may listen and because I consider them highly influential others will follow.
And the hole industry will get much better. :)

....I do get too sarcastic at times :oops:.... I was a bit shocked today after what trance said.
But I really believe they will listen our valid concerns and make better regulations.
 
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pinnit2014 said:
By that time they’ll have taken over the world - Just ask Ed ;)
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BTG offered Ed a job as CEO. But I hear he refused, claiming they're crab people from Xanon :eek::eek::p
 
greylady said:
I am sitting at 84% RTP at VS, no payouts or decent wins for 8-9 months now :eek2:

I have now played much lately, blooming idiot went for a 5 mile run in the heat and ended up with heat stroke, missed the best part of a week as I just slept constantly :laugh:
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You were doing so well up until you mentioned VS :p
 
Jono777 said:
Didn't someone post a screenshot of a £972.00 win on a 0.20p bet in the past 3-4 weeks?

Well over 2,500x if I didn't dream it :p
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Yes i did. And its not having it back. Had few goes on it and my free spin winnings go that way but its getting to be a Greedy C***. as for its mine sister from Blue print... Less wins and capped so if Bonanza is running at 96% then by odds of maths thats got to be a few % less (thats only if you believe Bonanza is 965)
 
nikantw said:
Maybe. I don't care. :p
I am so tired of this "hide and seek" game with BTG and casino reps about slot potential and odds.
I must have asked over 100 times for Bonanza's potential.
After all this time, I only care about what is really possible, hard to get but doable.
What am I supposed to think when I see a cap on Diamond Mine at 2,500x?

Edit...
Dan just confirmed that the chance for a win over 2,500 in Diamond Mine is almost impossible.
I choose to believe him, so......
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Thats not confirmation of a cap at all, its not actually confirming anything
 
Just thought i would mention VS has a cap of 10000x or £250,000 not 2500x on Diamond Mine.
And i really do not get why this is such a big deal and why it is focused on VS. Go to basically any site and they will have a Max payout of about £250,000 on a slot apart from jackpots.

If it was ever to be believed that these slots have unlimited potential then obviously a casino has a cap. Let's play at say a £10 stakeand hit say 64 ways of diamonds at a 35x multiplier. Impossible we know but not according to BTG. No casino would ever pay that amount out as it would be £1,120,000 not counting any other wins in free spins.
 
paul7388 said:
Just thought i would mention VS has a cap of 10000x or £250,000 not 2500x on Diamond Mine.
And i really do not get why this is such a big deal and why it is focused on VS. Go to basically any site and they will have a Max payout of about £250,000 on a slot apart from jackpots.

If it was ever to be believed that these slots have unlimited potential then obviously a casino has a cap. Let's play at say a £10 stakeand hit say 64 ways of diamonds at a 35x multiplier. Impossible we know but not according to BTG. No casino would ever pay that amount out as it would be £1,120,000 not counting any other wins in free spins.
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It is about the 100 max bet, 100 x 2500x = 250,000 that is why it is a 2500x cap (for the 100 max bet) and I can use it to get info about the odds.
I saw the 100 max bet at VS, Dan is always here, I asked him. That is all. I love VS. I love Dan! :)

Anyway, I have explained everything there is about this in my latest posts. No need to say anything more.
If anybody wants to ask me anything about it feel free to PM me.
 
nikantw said:
It is about the 100 max bet, 100 x 2500x = 250,000 that is why it is a 2500x cap (for the 100 max bet) and I can use it to get info about the odds.
I saw the 100 max bet at VS, Dan is always here, I asked him. That is all. I love VS. I love Dan! :)

Anyway, I have explained everything there is about this in my latest posts. No need to say anything more.
If anybody wants to ask me anything about it feel free to PM me.
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Is Diamond mine identical to Bonanza though?
Having played both, I'd say the maths/variance is different.

I can't see BTG giving away all of the Bonanza intellectual properties as part of a license deal.
They've licensed the Megaways game engine. But that doesn't mean they've just given away the whole of the Bonanza coding and told Blueprint to change the symbols and front end, for their version
 
Now that SG digital is running Bonanza it has been ruined!

The stupid bar along the top that was never there before gives the result away if you have won or not!
If the exact amount of you stake is taken away from your balance then you have lost on the spin before seeing the result.
If the amount taken away from your balance is larger than your stake then you will win on that spin!

Why does that need to be at the top of the screen like that as that information is along the bottom as well!
Can anyone at Big time gaming get this corrected as it completely ruins the game.

Bonanza SG rubbish!.webp
 
goatwack said:
I've been querying Bonanza's win lag since release. I don't think they listen much.
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The lag varied depending on where you play from my experience, now that the have added this, it has given the result of the spin away and not just the cascade!

I have just checked Donuts to see if this is affected also and of course it has been, but to a worse extent, now if you have the boxes of donuts on the reel waiting to reveal what's inside you don't need to wait cos the amount along the top will give the game away, not something the original balance along the bottom did!
 
nutnut said:
last 12 deposits ive cashed out on 11 of them......nothing major just £50 to £100 but soon adds up. hit bonus in first 100 spins too. very odd.

i dont play it as often just dip in with odd 10 deposit and leave if win or lose. still my luck has to run dry soon??
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It's not luck, just repaying you for your previous lamentations.

If you're challenging Bonanza to turn on you, I wouldn't if I were you. It's only too happy to! :D
 
robby811 said:
So many Nobs around :eek::eek::D:D:D:D:D
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This is like when a parent tells their kid not to say 'Shit' but then says it accidentally anyway.

And the kid spends all day saying it, with the parent hoping it gets bored of it :laugh:
 
nutnut said:
40 quid to get 60p bonus paid £6..........back under my rock i go. i should avoid it for a week
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Oh I see what this is . It's the odd £10 deposit.....

but stuck together!

:laugh::p
 
TimArmstrong said:
Quoting myself... played this for several 1000(!) spins this week.. no gold. 1000s of spins. How the hel is that even possible.
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I have noticed it seemed to be playing quite fairly the last few weeks until Monday. Now it seems dead everywhere it’s to coincidental for me. I know it shouldn’t make a difference but when I loaded it and SG appeared on the screen my confidence went down another 20%:laugh:.
 

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